Talk:Tommy Tallarico

Trivia

• /vfd - archived discussion from Wikipedia:Votes for deletion

What's the deal with the Trivia section? Since when do encyclopedia articles have Trivia? Salvag 15:57, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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It's not an encyclopedia, it's a WIKIpedia.

"Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia" --Sketchee 01:50, July 13, 2005 (UTC)

• sigh* Trivia doesnt have to be about asking questions and getting answers. Trivia is also about random facts about someone or something. Sheesh.

WP:Trivia It isn't really Wikipedia's policy to be a repository for pointless factoids but they're not entirely verboten. Best to be avoided on non-trivial subjects like a CEO. 2601:540:8200:1895:1F11:1CEA:17AE:94CE (talk) 10:02, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

Why CleanUp

There is just to many personal stuff in here. This article needs a good cleanup --JAranda | yeah 15:11, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

The liberty has been taken to throw a mop at the article; more may be needed. 2601:540:8200:1895:1F11:1CEA:17AE:94CE (talk) 10:02, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

There's quite a few links to primary sources (tallarico.com, videogameslive.com, audiogang.org and even Moby Games on which Tallarico himself edits). I'm not very knowledgeable of Wiki guidelines, but I believe these aren't desirable.Zeneater (talk) 21:22, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

WikiProject class rating

This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as stub, and the rating on other projects was brought up to Stub class. BetacommandBot 16:40, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Video Game Awards

For the 2007 VGA's on the Spike channel, Tommy played electric guitar with the orchestra..should this be included? I did not want to do it myself seeing as I am very new and don't know the name of the orchestra or anything like that. AgentHappyDay (talk) 19:28, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Every VGA show I've seen has had him play guitar with the VGA orchestra, I don't believe it's noteworthy.213.94.204.41 (talk) 15:23, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

Guinness World Record

he got a record for involvement in the most games. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.25.183.75 (talk) 16:15, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

The problem with caring about a Guinness World Record is that it's an ego surfing operation for charlatans. You can basically buy a record. Pure WP:Peacock. 2601:540:8200:1895:1F11:1CEA:17AE:94CE (talk) 10:02, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

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Age needs to be changed

Hey guys. Can someone please change the age on this page? Tommy is 53 now.

Cheers. OneUniqueWikiUser (talk) 16:43, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

WP:SELFPROMOTE?

As noted by one commentor here [1], the sole contribution of User:Ashesofthought as viewed here [2] is the creation of this article. It is possible this user is connected to the subject of the article. Sizeofint (talk) 12:59, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

WP: PROTECT?

Given the possibility of Wikipedia:Self-promotion and the matters starting to surround the character of the article, it may be worthwhile to consider invoking perhaps a Wikipedia:BLUELOCK in order to ensure that only trustworthy editors unbiased of anything regarding this or the Intellivision Amico; there has been shill behavior and trolling surrounding, in many articles offsite. 2601:540:8200:92A:BEB4:D82A:EC1C:EEE0 (talk) 14:28, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

Awards, notable?

Are the awards listed on this page noteworthy? They seem self-aggrandizing, especially since many are self-nominated or self-awarded. Consider this a soft nomination for deleting that section of the article. 2601:540:8200:1895:1F11:1CEA:17AE:94CE (talk) 06:09, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

Dubious Claims

Tommy has a habit of making what could be considered spurious claims. This section aims to check those claims and refute the more outlandish ones.

In example, he claims here on AtariAge to have had some hand in launching Guitar Hero. This is an unrelated example claim that simply places his ability to tell the truth into question; a disestablishment of character.

On his first day, Tallarico caught the eye of an employee of the new video game company, Virgin Mastertronic, because he was wearing a TurboGrafx T-shirt.

Unless someone can produce a photo of Tommy working for Virgin-Mastertronic wearing this shirt, this seems a nebulous claim; one which doesn't serve any practical purpose either.

Tallarico advocated for more space on cartridges being devoted to audio, and became an early pioneer in bringing real sampled sounds of instruments into video games.

This claim is dramatically overstated. It is ignorant of an entire generation of computing (such as the Amiga), the history of digital sound in games in general, and people such as Karsten Obarski or Rob Hubbard..

Tallarico was the first composer to commercially release album compilations of video game music around the world.

This is a claim regarding semantics. There have been games which came with their music on a separate cassette, and albums released on vinyl (and other formats) well before Mr. Tallirico claims. It comes down to a question of what counts as a global release.

Point is, people have been producing albums of video game music for commercial releases long before Tallarico was even in the business of making music.

2601:540:8200:1895:1F11:1CEA:17AE:94CE (talk) 22:07, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

Source dispute resolution discussion

WP:V Let's all take a moment to remind ourselves that Wikipedia has no absolutes on the matter of reliably sourced content. It has come to head that there is a dispute over what people consider to be reliable sources here on the page of a WP:BLP. If complaints and/or scrutiny wishes to be kindly submitted here, it will be considered for editing, resourcing, or removal. Remember to sign your comments and explain in depth as to the issue with a citation or source. Just whinging on opinions won't account for anything. 2601:540:8200:89F:C576:2539:3EA0:A09B (talk) 17:41, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

First, the issue of defining mismanagement. The Amico was announced in 2018, and was slated to release on October 10th, 2020. As of this writing, in the first quarter of 2022, the nearest mark of progress for the Amico is pilot plastics.

Plans may indeed change in an unpredictable world. However: bankrupting Fig due to non-delivery, lying about employees, juvenile behavior on public forums, mass censure of the official subreddit, rebutting against critical articles with self-aggrandizing fluff pieces, blatantly overlooking stolen content in a preview video, ghosting potential third party developers, broadly redefining what a physical release is, these are just a small selection of what could be considered issues just in production alone. There are a few more worrying signs outside of the whole thing as well.

The president of Intellivision Entertainment is Tommy Tallarico. The argument thereby is: As the president of Intellivision Entertainment, the onus of sane management, and public image has entirely been his. With these citations in mind, it is hoped that the mismanagement of Intellivision has been established for the sake of argument. 2601:540:8200:89F:C576:2539:3EA0:A09B (talk) 19:32, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

First off, this is going to need to be radically reworked, as you can't be using all these Reddit and forums posts, especially in a WP:BLP. See WP:USERG. Secondly, there's original research issues all across it as well. It's not enough for you to say "Here, look at this forum post/thing I found online. I deem it controversial so it's controversial." You need reliable sources taking note of said things. Something like "IGN noted (X thing) about Tallarico." Take a look at WP:VG/S for a list of commonly usable or unusable sources. Sergecross73 msg me 19:52, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

Alright, fair enough. Will these articles of which there are several provide sufficient evidence? Would this massive archive of inquiries made by the SEC be more concrete? How about this overview from GiantBomb? 2601:540:8200:89F:C576:2539:3EA0:A09B (talk) 22:18, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

Kotaku and Ars Technica are reliable. CBR is currently labeled as "inconclusive", so I wouldn't hinge on that one too much. "Top Free" is likely unreliable. SEC filings wouldn't be able to source anything besides the fact that the SEC filings exist...you'd need further sourcing to extract any sort of meaning or importance from them or you'll be violating WP:OR again. Them by themselves doesn't really help you say much of anything you said in your paragraph above. Giant Bomb's wiki is not usable per WP:USERG. This is why your proposal pretty much needs a complete reworking. Sergecross73 msg me 22:30, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

BLP issues

I've protected the page, as there has been edit warring regarding some blatant WP:BLP violations. Please discuss and hash out issues here. Sergecross73 msg me 01:07, 23 January 2022 (UTC)