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His name is Matthew Misrendino not Matthew Rinaudo. [[User:Stickguy19|Stickguy19]] ([[User talk:Stickguy19|talk]]) 15:10, 15 June 2022 (UTC) |
His name is Matthew Misrendino not Matthew Rinaudo. [[User:Stickguy19|Stickguy19]] ([[User talk:Stickguy19|talk]]) 15:10, 15 June 2022 (UTC) |
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Change last name from "Rinaudo" to "Misrendino" [[Special:Contributions/2603:8000:2440:9916:E0CB:CC3:4BCF:C183|2603:8000:2440:9916:E0CB:CC3:4BCF:C183]] ([[User talk:2603:8000:2440:9916:E0CB:CC3:4BCF:C183|talk]]) 04:04, 10 August 2022 (UTC) |
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In the cite web template for refname "Miz daily esports interview" (currently ref #3), change url-status=live to url-status=dead and add "|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20210111224941/https://www.dailyesports.gg/the-drive-to-be-a-top-streamer-an-interview-with-matt-mizkif-rinaudo/ |archive-date=January 11, 2021" somewhere in the template. Firefangledfeathers (talk) 19:14, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
Done. Woodroar (talk) 20:05, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
New York Times article updated to reflect alias is not known to be real name
The New York Times has updated their article currently used to substantiate his name being Mathew Rinaudo, reference #3, to more accurately describe it. Original wording was "Mizkif, who is Matthew Rinaudo and has 640,000 Twitch followers". Updated wording is "Mizkif, who is also knwon as Matthew Rinaudo and has 640,000 Twitch followers"
Thought it should be pointed out here because it's easy to miss, and let the editors do with this information what they see fit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JTproton (talk • contribs) 16:50, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks! For now, my preferred next step is to change nothing. Firefangledfeathers (talk) 16:57, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
- Didn't notice that update either. Agreed that it doesn't change anything insofar as how this article should be written. ‑‑Volteer1 (talk) 17:22, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
Image
Due to the previous image being a facially-obstructed photo of Rinaudo, I have changed it to a more identifiable photo of him. L33tm4n (talk) 16:56, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
Mizkif's Last Name
I believe it is more accurate to use "Mizkif" instead of "Rinaudo" on the page to refer to him. I have left this comment here instead of editing the article in order to not publish material that constitutes "original research"Aisonix (talk) 21:01, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
- If secondary, reliable sources are published that make connections like this, or refer to this person using a different name, we can potentially use them. But it is absolutely inappropriate for us to be publishing names other than the one(s) he uses based on digging into primary sources. People change their names or use pseudonyms for all kinds of reasons, and that is fine: WP:BLPPRIVACY. I do not understand the insistence on digging up what is supposedly this individual's birth name to include here; there is no good reason for it. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 16:16, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
- Just to add to this thread that there does now seem to be at least one non-primary source on this recently from the site Sportskeeda: https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/slicker-complains-rewards-on-mizkif-s-otk-parasocial-event FeWorld (talk) 17:06, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks. That source is not reliable for this claim. I think the most recent discussion of the reliability of sportskeeda.com was here. Firefangledfeathers 17:20, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
- I can confirm that Mizkif's surname is not Rinuado, it started as an inside joke on his stream. However, he now uses this name online totally, and has kept his real surname private (although it is possible to find it online, I won't share it).
- Would it not be prudent however for the article to say that Rinuado is not his real birth name, even if it doesn't divulge his actual real name? Calcium17 (talk) 11:02, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks. That source is not reliable for this claim. I think the most recent discussion of the reliability of sportskeeda.com was here. Firefangledfeathers 17:20, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
- Just to add to this thread that there does now seem to be at least one non-primary source on this recently from the site Sportskeeda: https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/slicker-complains-rewards-on-mizkif-s-otk-parasocial-event FeWorld (talk) 17:06, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you for responding to my comment. I appreciate the way you laid things out. Out of respect for privacy per Wikipedia's policy (referred to above) I have deleted most of the rest of the comment. Hopefully this can at least be a lesson to future potential editors about things that are and aren't permissible. Aisonix (talk) 00:01, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 9 January 2022
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His real name is not Rinaudo, he has been lying/creating the meme in order to hide it. real proof: https://opencorporates.com/companies/us_tx/0803234783 https://opencorporates.com/officers/494426192 How is that not a reliable source? it shows his name,company and location, which is texas. Where are the reliable resources that his family name is rinaudo?
The real name is Matthew Joseph Misrendino https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znNR5jQloXQ another proof his real life friend and erobb reaction when accidentally leaked.
He attended High school graduation, Verona (NJ) High School 113th Commencement 2013 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpSvircYOMg&t=5606s 1:33:26 (1 hour 33 minutes 26 seconds) His full name being called
He attended at this college College graduation, 2017 Rohrer COB Commencement Ceremony
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQrRh_SoUnU&t=3786s 1:2:50 (1 hour 2 mintues 50 seconds) His name Matt Misrendino being called 1:03:06 (1 hour 3 minutes 6 seconds) His appearance Verox67 (talk) 23:49, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
Change the real name Emily rinaudo is NOT his sister Add his highschool and college
@ScottishFinnishRadish did you actually see the links or are you trolling?
Okay counter question: Where do we get to assume Rinaudo is his real name. The only "source" here is him saying it which he could be as well as lying/pretending/meming whatever (based on how many "stories" he has been fabricating/telling)
The coperate site states his name misrendino, the Youtube video (it was a stream where his real life friend and erobb221 have been streaming and of course the video of demand got deleted. Erobb221 has been living with Mizkif in 2019 if you guys don't know and you can see at the end of the video Mizkif writing in Discord to Erobb) mentions misrendino and you can listen to his name and watch his face at the time stamps on the highschool as well as the college video. All the "sources" (reliable or not) are indicating that assuming rinaudo is his real name is questionable if not wrong. Writing Misrendo in his chat will get you permabanned and he will always deny it.
Edit: alright, what about these "sources" then also stating misrendino as his name?
https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/sodapoppin-attempts-send-mizkif-insulting-message-gets-banned-twitch-chat https://www.sportskeeda.com/amp/esports/when-pokimane-s-twitch-ban-end?article-trending https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/nmplol-jokes-hitting-maya-higa-hypothetical-split-malena https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/got-milli-videos-atrioc-ludwig-make-connection-mizkif-s-youtube-views-titles https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/fans-confused-erobb-s-leaked-news-mizkif-russel https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/sodapoppin-attempts-send-mizkif-insulting-message-gets-banned-twitch-chat https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/pokimane-others-laugh-shock-mizkif-obliterates-word-game-public-twitch-stream https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/slicker-complains-rewards-on-mizkif-s-otk-parasocial-event
Remember there are different article writers on those links (besides Vibha Hegde) and yes this site is unreliable as stated above, my point here is that this name misrendino is mentioned several times.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4mzILoBv6c (him confirming that he was wrestling in highschool) https://highschoolsports.nj.com/player/matt-misrendino/wrestling https://www.reddit.com/r/Mizkif/comments/fha56e/another_one/ (author says the photos are public so sources to that can be found)
You can't say that these have no connection to each other and confidently state Rinaudo as his real name without questioning it. Are you telling me that there are two different people out there? Possible, but i personally doubt it.
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. None of these are reliable sources for his name. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:55, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- Expanding on SFR's comments: the corporate records are problematic because we have to assume he's the managing partner. Granted, it's not an unreasonable assumption. However, we are advised at WP:BLPPRIMARY against using records like these as sources in articles. The YouTube video from BeanBag Archive is not reliable; it is an unknown, unverified, source. The high school graduations are circumstantial; there's no way to confirm the individual in the graduations is Mizkif. —C.Fred (talk) 00:20, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
- I agree with SFR and C.Fred. Please stop re-opening this request. You'll need consensus here before the edit can happen. SFR is already here, so using the edit request template is achieving very little. Firefangledfeathers 04:04, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
- Heh, I feel that's some commentary on my closing style. Also nothing that I'm closing this again. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:22, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
- Really it was a commentary on who responds to edit requests, and it's mostly you! I'm grateful. Firefangledfeathers 14:26, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks! Also let me clarify that I didn't assume a negative connotation, just that is not that I stay on top of them when they've already been answered. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:46, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
- Really it was a commentary on who responds to edit requests, and it's mostly you! I'm grateful. Firefangledfeathers 14:26, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
- Heh, I feel that's some commentary on my closing style. Also nothing that I'm closing this again. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:22, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
- Would a deed record for his house be a reliable source or otherwise acceptable under Wikipedia:BLPPRIMARY? Swedinator123 (talk) 13:10, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- I agree with SFR and C.Fred. Please stop re-opening this request. You'll need consensus here before the edit can happen. SFR is already here, so using the edit request template is achieving very little. Firefangledfeathers 04:04, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
- Expanding on SFR's comments: the corporate records are problematic because we have to assume he's the managing partner. Granted, it's not an unreasonable assumption. However, we are advised at WP:BLPPRIMARY against using records like these as sources in articles. The YouTube video from BeanBag Archive is not reliable; it is an unknown, unverified, source. The high school graduations are circumstantial; there's no way to confirm the individual in the graduations is Mizkif. —C.Fred (talk) 00:20, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
- I did a quick check on the sources in the article. New York Times is paywalled, so I can't verify the name. Comic Book says Rinaudo, as does Wired. Thus, it will take high-quality published reliable secondary sources to displace the current name. —C.Fred (talk) 12:38, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
- NYT names him as "Matthew Rinaudo". Firefangledfeathers 14:27, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
- NYT is wrong btw, his surname is 100% not Rinuado, but it is now used widely across the internet and has so, in effect, become his surname as a result. Calcium17 (talk) 11:04, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
- NYT names him as "Matthew Rinaudo". Firefangledfeathers 14:27, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
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His name is Matthew Misrendino not Matthew Rinaudo. Stickguy19 (talk) 15:10, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
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