Talk:Minneapolis

To do

Things that need doing. We've lost time to a sockpuppet farm but we've gained an expert copyediting pass, for which I am grateful.

• A featured article review is tentatively scheduled for January 2023. After 15 years, a bunch of things will need to be fixed. -SusanLesch (talk) 16:32, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

• In Minneapolis#Waterpower;_lumber_and_flour_milling. Minneapolis led the world in flour milling for 50 years.Y
• tunnel collapse at St. Anthony Falls in 1869 Y
• In Minneapolis#Demographics. A 2015 report found racial and ethnic minorities in the city were unequal in education, with 15 percent of Blacks and 13 percent of Hispanics holding bachelor's degrees compared with 42 percent of the White population. While the standard of living is rising with incomes among the highest in the Midwest, in 2015, the median household income among minorities was below that of Whites by over $17,000 and the poverty-rate gap between Blacks and Whites was the widest in the US. Y
• The section Minneapolis#Annual_events needs sources.
• Replace source: Encyclopedia Britannica, used in the Religion and Economy sections. Y
• Replace Dakota dictionary. Y
• Restore 2020 census to Demographics, following lead from User:Svenskbygderna.
• Source and rewrite old sentence from Minneapolis#Social_tensions: "Minneapolis contended with White supremacy, participated in desegregation and engaged with the civil rights movement; in 1968, the American Indian Movement was founded in Minneapolis."Y
• Help with about 50 dead links. Link notes here:

City Pages, the Minneapolis Public Library, Emporis are extinct now. (Today they are Racket and the Hennepin County Library and CoStar). Several dead links to them are not easily replaceable with new sources so I've left them in. Also left dead links to

• Associated Press Minnesota pronunciation guide. AP tried hard to help us but the maintainer retired in 2020.
• US Census source for Racial Composition in 1990 (Demographics table)
• Jewish Community Relations Council (Demographics and Religion)
• The city's first mosque (Religion)
• Star Tribune article about Prince (in caption only)
• Minnesota Business (extinct) and KSTP-TV articles about north Minneapolis (Cuisine)

References

-SusanLesch (talk) 13:48, 26 June 2022 (UTC) restored SusanLesch (talk) 23:36, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

RfC: photo in the Cuisine section

The following discussion is an archived record of a request for comment. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this discussion. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

Nearly unanimous No. Closed to save editor effort per WP:SNOW. -SusanLesch (talk) 14:42, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

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Should this photo of the Owamni restaurant replace this photo of the 5-8 Club in the Minneapolis Cuisine section? -SusanLesch (talk) 00:11, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

Should Owamni replace...

the 5-8 Club?

• Yes. For two good reasons:

1. Owamni won James Beard Best New Restaurant in 2022.
2. Wikipedia cannot decide a winner in the dispute between the 5-8 Club and Matt's Bar over who invented the Jucy Lucy, by picturing one and not the other. Picturing both is undue weight for cheeseburgers. The current photo violates Wikipedia core policy at WP:NPOV. -SusanLesch (talk) 00:11, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

@SusanLesch: How does the photo violate WP:NPOV? Magnolia677 (talk) 21:33, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

You unfairly picked your favorite to picture. Please stop arguing the same point over and over.

• "There’s a war going on in south Minneapolis between two rivals... For half a century, these two bars on Cedar Avenue South have claimed to make the original, and best, Juicy Lucy."

References

• No Per Wikipedia:Recentism. The Banner talk 16:32, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
  • Alternative option: replace the photo of the restaurant by a photo of the Jucy Lucy. The Banner talk 16:37, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, User:The Banner. Owamni chef Sean Sherman also won James Beard awards in 2018 and 2019—we cannot call that recentism. -SusanLesch (talk) 17:28, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

With the other restaurant having a history going back to 1928, focusing on rather recent awards for a 2-year old restaurant is RECENTISM. The Banner talk 17:59, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

COME VISIT MINNEAPOLIS! Eat at James Beard award-winning Minneapolis chef Gavin Kaysen's Spoon and Stable built in 1906, plus if I'm not mistaken his Demi restaurant building was built in 1918. Here's your invitation. 😃 -SusanLesch (talk) 18:36, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

Pardon me, @The Banner: Owamni is built on the ruins of the Standard Mill built in 1878, also site of Fuji Ya, Minnesota's first Japanese restaurant. -SusanLesch (talk) 19:19, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

The building is much older, the establishment not. I put a question mark at the notability anyway. The Banner talk 20:48, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

I understand a little from reading your user page, so I won't press you. But the restaurant's notability is otherwise unquestioned: BBC, PBS Newshour, Le Monde, The New York Times, La Liste, New Yorker, NBC News and countless local sources. The time has come for indigenous chefs to be heard. -SusanLesch (talk) 17:59, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

If you look at the actual article, you see 2 sources saying the restaurant has opened and 3 sources that it has won an award. The article does not prove its notability. The Banner talk 19:20, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

But we digress, I have already answered this RFC and my opinion has not changed. The Banner talk 20:33, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

Quite all right. I'd invite you again, to write the Owamni article, but you've made your exit. Best wishes. -SusanLesch (talk) 23:27, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

• No - The photo of the 5-8 Club is both significant and relevant, per MOS:IMAGERELEVANCE. The article mentions the history of the 5-8 Club, and its connection to the mouthwatering Jucy Lucy burger. The photo itself is interesting too, and meets some criteria of MOS:IMAGEQUALITY. Regarding the photo of Owamni restaurant, all it shows is people eating on the second floor of a building that says "water" on the front, and nowhere at MOS:IMAGES does it suggest gimmicky "award-winning" restaurants get priority. Magnolia677 (talk) 21:51, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

• No or Neither - the best solution for these types of arguments is either "include both" or "remove both". • Sbmeirow • Talk • 04:43, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

• No - The photo of people sitting at tables on the second floor of a dark building does not make for a good illustrative aid. The 5-8 Club is at least readily recognizable as a restaurant to the average reader, so if there is going to be a photo of a restaurant, it should be the 5-8 instead of Owamni. --Sable232 (talk) 20:23, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Where was decided to just remove the picture? The RFC was about replacing. The Banner talk 10:39, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

@The Banner: Agreed. I have restored the photo. Magnolia677 (talk) 11:19, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

• Yes I don't believe that this or that WP quideline will provide our answer here. It's just a preference issue, IMO. The building photos are better than the hamburger photos. Of the two building photos, I prefer the Owamni. I think it's a good photo that adds a lot to the cuisine section. As far as a decision on whether Lucy or Indian food is more important to portray, is old or new better? Who's to say? In this case I'm saying new. Owamni was recently feathered on both PBS and NBC. The chef was interviewed, the food was shown, the history was presented, awards mentioned, etc. I believe that it shows a modern Minneapolis looking back at its roots and learning to appreciate them. Sectionworker (talk) 17:30, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Lead image

One of four by Carol M. Highsmith

Skyline by the river

Hello. Opening discussion here for candidates for an image to represent the city in the infobox. Collages/montages have caused us recurring copyright violations over the years, and now the multiple image template only displays the Minneapolis Institute of Art in tooltips and on cellphones. Feel free to add candidates and !vote here. I think we can use a single good photo. We don't have any guidance from WP:USCITIES which refers us to MOS:LEADELEMENTS which says the lead image should be "representative" and the image used should be relevant and technically well-produced. Thanks. -SusanLesch (talk) 16:46, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

Nr. 3: Aerial photo of downtown Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA.

I think this other photo (nr. 3) gives a better overview of Minneapolis then just the highrise in the city centre. The Banner talk 18:23, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

That's great! Thanks, I've never seen it. -SusanLesch (talk) 19:39, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

Wikimedia Commons, Category Skylines of Minneapolis. At your service. The Banner talk 20:28, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

Number 2 or 3. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 19:42, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

The multiple image template now shows the whole city on mobile. So my objection to it is over. Also the whole city appears in tooltips. -SusanLesch (talk) 12:55, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

@Magnolia677: Can you point please to the rule or guideline that says an article can't have a second photo of something pictured first in the lead image? The closest I've found is the common sense rule MOS:REPEATLINK (for links not images). -SusanLesch (talk) 13:19, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

MOS:IMAGERELEVANCE states that images must not be decorative. Magnolia677 (talk) 18:13, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

@Magnolia677: Does that mean your edits like this are based on your interpretation of "decorative" and not on a specific guideline? I would say we disagree mightily on what would be useful to the reader of the section where these second images used to be. In this example, I can't believe you would send a reader back to the top just to find out if that was Minnehaha Falls they caught a glimpse of earlier. -SusanLesch (talk) 19:14, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

I can't believe you would support multiple images in the infobox, knowing duplicates would be removed from the article. Magnolia677 (talk) 19:55, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

@Magnolia677: Third request. What is the MOS rule governing your deletions like this one? If there is no rule, these images should return to aid our readers. Thank you. -SusanLesch (talk) 20:13, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

Adding multiple images of the same thing would junk up the article with unnecessary images that readers would need to download, but perhaps a discussion about redundant and duplicate images could result in a policy about it. Seems like a no brainer to me, but whatever. Magnolia677 (talk) 21:10, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

As a compromise, I restored two, removed one, and left one out. Thank you. -SusanLesch (talk) 21:40, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

Snow emergency

Photo [uploaded] by User:SusanLesch

User:SusanLesch has reverted an edit to add the following (along with a photo she took uploaded):

After each significant snowfall, called a snow emergency, the Minneapolis Public Works Street Division plows over 1,000 miles (1,609.3 km) of streets as wide as possible—in "lane miles," enough to plow a lane between Minneapolis and Anchorage, Alaska. Ordinances govern parking on plowing routes during these emergencies, as well as snow shoveling.

References

A "snow emergency" means the city is expecting over three inches of snow, so be careful where you park. In fact, this article indicates that a "snow emergency" is all about parking, and the city website also indicates that a snow emergency is all about parking. Seems kinda trivial for an article about a big city that gets lots of snow. And why do readers need to know the distance to Alaska? The input of others would be appreciated. Magnolia677 (talk) 12:04, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

I did not make that photo. -SusanLesch (talk) 19:14, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

@SusanLesch: The "snow emergency" is pretty trivial. Would you agree the article would be improved if it were removed? Magnolia677 (talk) 19:37, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

No per my edit summary. This talk page will be improved when you stop to admit your mistake and give Andrew Ciscel credit for his ingenious photo. -SusanLesch (talk) 14:17, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

@SusanLesch: Not your photo, you only uploaded it. Let's focus on improving this article. Could you please tell me why you reverted an edit so you could re-insert the distance from Minneapolis to Alaska? Not all readers are from the United States, so many may find this "factoid" confusing. Also, do you agree that featured articles should avoid unencyclopedic "amazing facts" and the use of sensational comparisons? Magnolia677 (talk) 22:20, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

@Magnolia677: You accuse me of reverting but it was you who removed the entire paragraph—about the only perennial weather problem facing Minneapolis so far. This article has given credit to the Minneapolis Public Works department for fifteen years. Minneapolis without mention of clearing snow is unrecognizable. Excuse me, I intend to withdraw from this argument now. -SusanLesch (talk) 00:03, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

@SusanLesch: I have not found another article about a large North American city that mentions snow clearing (see Chicago, Edmonton, Calgary). And again, what is the purpose of informing readers of the distance to Alaska? I'd rather not take this unencyclopedic edit to dispute resolution, so I'm hoping you can explain your edits other than just saying those who clear snow need to be "given credit". This isn't a tribute page. Magnolia677 (talk) 17:21, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

This is unencyclopedic trivia, and the photo is a generic one that could've been taken almost anywhere. I say leave it out. MrOllie (talk) 16:35, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

Duplicate images

Minnehaha Falls

Infobox image

Text image

Target Field

Infobox image

Text image

User:SusanLesch has added duplicate and similar photos to the article. MOS:IMAGERELEVANCE suggests that images be not be "primarily decorative", and I question the encyclopedic value of multiple similar images on city articles. Unnecessary images also add an extra load for mobile users. The input of others would be appreciated. Magnolia677 (talk) 15:43, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

Wikimedia Commons has a c:Category:Minnehaha_Falls. If the editor who made the infobox image decided to pick off the same photo used in the article, perhaps it would be more fruitful to notify that editor than to engage the entire MOS community. -SusanLesch (talk) 19:56, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

Prior to adding back these duplicate images, you made a point that there was no policy about this. The input of editors more familiar with image policy would be of benefit. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:30, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

• I offered a compromise. You didn't respond.
• The editor who made the infobox changed the image of Minnehaha Falls. You didn't respond.
• Evidently the purpose of this thread is to enshrine your preferences in MOS policy. Development of MOS policy could better be done on MOS Images talk.

The reader should rule. Picturing something in the section it is discussed aids the reader in the most obvious way. -SusanLesch (talk) 13:59, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

Further reading

Greetings, User:Rjensen. You seem to specialize in adding further reading. I've spent nearly an hour trying to track down your most recent additions. WorldCat, the University of Minnesota Press, Google Scholar, and the Wikipedia Library can't find them by title. Care to explain where you unearthed these three books? Thank you. -SusanLesch (talk) 18:26, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

I was trying ChatGPT--much in the news these days. It was easy to use and it gave very fast answers--reasonable-looking and FAKE . My apologies. Rjensen (talk) 05:24, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

That I wouldn't have guessed. What a waste of our time! Take care. -SusanLesch (talk) 12:45, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

Looks like colleges and high schools are seriously worried about students doing term papers and take homes and Whatnot using AI. you should try it. ChatGPT is indeed very easy to use, and well written and (most of the time) ok-- but I've been learning in the last week that it's full of really bad mistakes. I will go back to using Google Scholar for bibliography. Rjensen (talk) 15:19, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

Believe it or not, unpaid Wikipedia editor time has value. This bot was only caught because I checked. I'm not persuaded to try it. You really should clean up your act anywhere else you used it. -SusanLesch (talk) 15:34, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

@Rjensen: Where else on Wikipedia did you use ChatGPT? -SusanLesch (talk) 15:27, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

Minneapolis was my only try. Rjensen (talk) 21:32, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

@Rjensen: I ask that you please follow WP:CITEVAR before adding anything more to Wikipedia's Further reading sections. I decided this was not an infraction like the first OpenAI ANI case was three days ago, but it was reckless and thoughtless of you not to check your additions for accuracy. -SusanLesch (talk) 19:55, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

WP:FARGIVEN

We have been discussing a Featured article review for this article for over two years:

• Talk:Minneapolis/Archive 7#Removal of publisher parameters
• Talk:Minneapolis/Archive 8#To Do for FAR
• Talk:Minneapolis/Archive 8#FA issues persist
• Talk:Minneapolis#To do

Compared to earlier times, when all of WP:MINN joined forces to build the most comprehensive collection of FAs for any state, I am saddened to see that in these two years, the needed improvements to avoid a FAR have not occurred, and have been replaced by endless discussion of images (a relatively minor item compared to the necessary text additions). It is not possible for one editor, no matter how hard working, to maintain this article at FA standards in such an environment. Geography/place articles are among the hardest to maintain at FA standard, and a collegial environment is key. Perhaps this list (along with the incompleted from the older lists above) will encourage editors here to better focus their efforts.

I will be listing this article at WP:FARGIVEN, which means if the issues indicated in archives, on the To do list, and covered here are not addressed within a few weeks, any editor may submit the article to FAR. My list is not intended to be comprehensive; it outlines only that which I can spot easily and which indicate the article is not at FA standard. From this version. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:34, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

Social tensions

Section name:

• Section headings and article names are supposed to be singular.

Geography

Geology of Minnesota should be added to hatnotes.

Neighborhoods

Minneapolis is divided into eleven communities, each containing several neighborhoods, of which there are 83. In some cases, two or more neighborhoods act together under one organization. Some areas are known by nicknames of business associations.[1][2]}}

• Fails verification (11 is nowhere to be found in the cited sources).
• Nor does the source say that each community has several neighborhoods (it's possible that one community has one neighborhood?).
• Nor is there any mention of business associations in the cited sources.

In 2018, Minneapolis City Council voted to approve the Minneapolis 2040 Comprehensive Plan, which resulted in a city-wide end to single-family zoning. Minneapolis was the first major city in the United States to make this change.[79]

• Please read the source; this statement is a misrepresentation of the source.

Demographics

For a short period of the 1940s, Japanese and Japanese Americans resided in Minneapolis due to US-government relocations, as did Native Americans during the 1950s.

• Uncited

however, immigration of 1,400 Somalis in 2016 slowed to 48 in 2018 under President Trump.

• Request quote (mention of Trump comes across as gratuitous, what does the source say?)

Generally, the flow is off ... content is bouncing around too much and needs better organization with topic sentences for paragraphs.

Religion

What makes this a reliable source for the content it is citing?

• https://web.archive.org/web/20140116195140/http://www.youthresources.ws/history-of-north-mpls/

Jim Bakker and Tammy Faye met while attending Pentecostal North Central University, and began a television ministry that by the 1980s reached 13.5 million households.[127]

• WP:TRIVIA ???

Demographics chart is 2014; needs update.

Economy

American companies with US offices in Minneapolis include Accenture, Bellisio Foods,[136] Canadian Pacific,

• Is Canadian Pacific an American company?

In 2011, the area's $199.6 billion gross metropolitan product and its per capita personal income ranked 13th in the US.[142]

• Dated, why is it here still? Update or remove ?

Music

Minnesota Orchestra plays classical and popular music at Orchestra Hall under Thomas Søndergård, the music director effective with the 2023–2024 season;[160] One

• Grammar, punctuation.

One 2010 special performance under predecessor Osmo Vänskä at Carnegie Hall made The New Yorker critic Alex Ross write, "... the Minnesota Orchestra sounded, to my ears, like the greatest orchestra in the world".[161]

• Why are we still including what one critic said 13 years ago ? It as one performance, one critic, and is now dated. Irrelevant today, perhaps relevant at the Orchestra article.

Prince

• He has his own article, reduce this to about half of what is there, and only that related to his being from Minneapolis.

A lot of this section is dated WP:TRIVIA that might find a place at Music of Minnesota with a hatnote to here.

Museums

These are history or some-such museums only (as art museums are listed above); rename? History and technology ?

Cuisine

Wirth Co-op opened in 2017 but closed within a year.

• WP:NOTNEWS; it closed, not relevant. Rewrite to be more general.

Many Minneapolis-based individuals have won James Beard Foundation Awards;

• WP:OR ... does a citation specifically support many? Otherwise rewrite to "Individuals who have won include ... " or some such.

Libraries

Fifteen branches of the Hennepin County Library serve Minneapolis.[212]

• Cited to 2007.

Ten special collections hold over 25,000 books and resources for researchers, including the Minneapolis Collection and the Minneapolis Photo Collection.[214]

• Cited to 2007.

Sports

Table:

• Capacity, Since, and Championships in table are uncited. Do we really need this? They have their own articles.

Minnesota Wild, an National Hockey League team, play at the Xcel Energy Center;[225] and the Major League Soccer soccer team Minnesota United FC play at Allianz Field, both of which are located in Saint Paul.

• If they play in St. Paul, why are they listed here?

Parks and recreation

The city's parks are governed and operated by the Minneapolis Park and Recreation Board, an independent park district with broader powers than any other parks agency in the US.[232]

• Stated as a fact in Wikivoice; does this statement need in-text attribution? (According to so-and-so writing in x in year y )

On a general note, this sections is in much better shape than anything that follows it.

Government

Presidential elections

• See MOS:COLLAPSE
• Why is this here ?

Minneapolis is currently a majority holding

• MOS:CURRENT (since when ... add dates for context or something)

An awful lot of WP:RECENTISM there; can it be written more generally?

• For example, A 2021 ballot question to abolish the police department failed. It failed. WP:NOTNEWS.
• For example, the entire paragraph beginning with "The city council unanimously approved Frey's budget of $1.66 billion for 2023 ... " WP:NOTNEWS, this is an encyclopedia. Will anyone care about this para ten years from now? Rewrite to be more general and encyclopedic.

The US Justice Department[271] and the Minnesota Department of Human Rights[272] have been investigating policing practices in Minneapolis.

• No time context provided.

Primary and secondary education

Most are very old sources, and the first sentences are completely uncited.

Colleges and universities

Minneapolis's collegiate scene is dominated by the main campus of the University of Minnesota, where more than 50,000 undergraduate, graduate, and professional students attend 20 colleges, schools, and institutes.[278]

• Cited to Encyclopedia Britannica, 2007.

The university offers free tuition to students from Minnesota families earning less than $50,000 per year.[279]

• Excess detail, has its own article.

The university has unusual constitutional autonomy that has existed in three US states since 1851, when the provision was included in Minnesota's constitution.[281]

• True, but does a casual reader know what this means? Rephrase.

The large, principally online universities Capella University and Walden University are both headquartered in the city. The public four-year Metropolitan State University and the private four-year University of St. Thomas are among post-secondary institutions based elsewhere that have campuses in Minneapolis.[283]

• 2005 source.

Media

TMC Publications publishes The Monitor, ...

• acronym TMC stands for what? Is there a wikilink?
• Ditto for MSP Communications

What makes this a reliable source?

• https://www.december.com/places/msp/broadcast.html

her studio across Hennepin from the basilica.

• Nice, but what basilica? (Link) And do we really need to know her location? She has her own article.

Movies filmed in Minneapolis include ...

• This is WP:TRIVIA that can be moved to the sub-article. Movies are filmed in every city.

Transportation

Among bus lines, local Minneapolis routes are numbered 1 to 49, and higher numbers are for limited-stop, commuter, express, and routes in directional parts of the city.

• Way too much detail; WP:NOT a guidebook.

Riders of Metro Transit system-wide are 44 percent persons of color.[310]

• This kind of data will always require updating and needs an as of date. I suggest rewriting it more generally to avoid the constant need for updating.

Due to staffing shortages, BRT lines started just as ...

• What year are we talking about here?

Only one quarter of the US's structurally deficient bridges had been repaired ten years later

• Interesting fact, irrelevant to Minneapolis as written. Sounds like trying to promote/hype Minnesota.

The Minneapolis Skyway System, 9.5 miles (15.3 km) of enclosed pedestrian bridges called skyways, links 80 city blocks downtown with second-floor restaurants and retailers that are open on weekdays.[323]

• It's not only limited to restaurants and retailers. Should include mention of government, hospitality industry, offices, etc.

Health care

The Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota, is 87 miles (140 km) from Minneapolis.[327]

• Sourced to google maps, and has nothing to do with Minneapolis. Should be removed unless a source specifically giving its relevance to Minneapolis is provided. (That is, this is original research as now included.)

Abbott Northwestern Hospital, University of Minnesota Medical Center, Hennepin Healthcare, Minneapolis VA Medical Center, Shriners Hospitals for Children, Children's Hospitals and Clinics, University of Minnesota Masonic Children's Hospital, and Phillips Eye Institute serve the city.[326]

• An older-than 2007 source (with an incomplete citation): is this still accurate ?
• Have there not been a number of mergers ?

Cardiac surgery was developed at the university's Variety Club Hospital, where by 1957, more than 200 patients—many of whom were children—had survived open-heart operations. Working with surgeon C. Walton Lillehei, Medtronic began to build portable and implantable cardiac pacemakers about this time.[328]

• Six pages is too broad of a range for verification. Attach individual page nos to the parts they verify. Why are some books listed in Works cited, using sfns for page nos, while others are not.

Level I trauma center

• "Verified Trauma Centers". American College of Surgeons. July 3, 2012. Archived from the original on July 7, 2014. Retrieved March 30, 2007. How can you retrieve something in 2007 that was written in 2012 ?
• How old is the source actually, and do we know this is still accurate? Updated source needed.

The Mashkiki Waakaa'igan Pharmacy on Bloomington Avenue paragraph

• Has no as of date, and
• Will become updated and need constant updating, and
• Can be written without the numbers/excess detail that will require constant updating.

Utilities

"Ambassadors", who are identified by their blue-and-green-yellow fluorescent jackets, daily patrol a 120-block area of downtown to greet and assist visitors, remove trash, monitor property, and call police when they are needed. The ambassador program is a public-private partnership with a $6.6 million annual budget that is paid for by a special downtown tax district.[333]

• It is not obvious to the casual reader why this is in Utilities.
• If the article is to include a level of detail on annual budgets for each program, then those numbers will need to be constantly maintained and to include an "as of" date. This one is cited to 2020, so already needs checking/possible updating.
• For accessibility and verification, please add archiveurls. For example, this source can be found at here (sample only, archivals should be added wherever else sources are not accessible or likely to go missing).
• It seems like the Downtown Improvement District might be worthy of mention here.

The city treats and distributes water, and charges a monthly fee for trash removal.[335]

• This is a throw-away sentence that says nothing.

Citation consistency

There is citation overkill, citation inconsistency, and generally odd citation formatting, samples only:

• Atwater, Isaac (1893). History of the city of Minneapolis, Minnesota. Vol. 1. pp. 282–299. This is too broad of a page range for verification of a simple fact, and this citation could be converted to an sfn like the others. If books sources are listed in Works cited, they should all be listed in Works cited.
• Use a consistent format for ISBNs in Works cited (re hyphenation).
• WP:CITATIONOVERKILL, eg in History.
  • What an odd citation for a simple fact: "A History of Minneapolis: Mdewakanton Band of the Dakota Nation, Parts I and II". Hennepin County Library. 2001. Archived from the original on April 9, 2012. and "The US-Dakota War of 1862". Minnesota Historical Society. and "A History of Minneapolis: Minneapolis Becomes Part of the United States". Archived from the original on April 21, 2012., and "A History of Minneapolis: Governance and Infrastructure". Archived from the original on April 21, 2012. and "A History of Minneapolis: Railways". Archived from the original on April 21, 2012. Retrieved January 1, 2020 – via Internet Archive.
  • Same for the citation just above it. Pick one strong source and use it only. These are samples only.
• Danbom, David B. (2003). "Flour power: the significance of flour milling at the falls" (PDF). Minnesota History. 58 (5–6): 270–285. JSTOR 20188363. This PDF has 15 pages and is cited five times. A 15-page range is larger than helpful for verification, and sfns would allow for better page citation (sample only).
• Odd citation formatting. What date Star Tribune? What article title? A period before an and which continues with a separate citation? About 10,000 such covenants remained as of 2017, in: Furst, Randy (August 26, 2017). "Massive project works to uncover racist restrictions in Minneapolis housing deeds". Star Tribune. and Delegard, Kirsten; Ehrman-Solberg, Kevin (2017). "'Playground of the People'? Mapping Racial Covenants in Twentieth-century Minneapolis". Open Rivers: Rethinking the Mississippi. 6. doi:10.24926/2471190X.2820.

Further reading

Needs pruning. FAs are supposed to be comprehensive already, and a justification for some of those listed is needed.

External links

Converting the sister projects to a horizontal format will result in less white space.