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:I will change the infobox back as well at some point. Since Israel is also included in [[Partially recognized state]] (ie [[List of states with limited recognition]]), how about I wander over to the Israel page and mark it as a partially recognized state, see what happens? [[User:Selfstudier|Selfstudier]] ([[User talk:Selfstudier|talk]]) 23:19, 18 January 2023 (UTC) |
:I will change the infobox back as well at some point. Since Israel is also included in [[Partially recognized state]] (ie [[List of states with limited recognition]]), how about I wander over to the Israel page and mark it as a partially recognized state, see what happens? [[User:Selfstudier|Selfstudier]] ([[User talk:Selfstudier|talk]]) 23:19, 18 January 2023 (UTC) |
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I would just like to fix a mention of Stefan Löfven's name, it's written as "Stefan Lofven" somewhere. [[User:Polishedrelish|Polishedrelish]] ([[User talk:Polishedrelish|talk]]) 04:50, 17 February 2023 (UTC) |
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Update population count to 5,404,000 Redditor686 (talk) 10:06, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
- Source? Selfstudier (talk) 11:34, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 02:38, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
Adding “de jure sovereign”
The state of palestine carry a non-member observer status in UN, non member observer states ARE recognized as de jure sovereign states even if many parts of it’s lands are under foreign occupation, even if the country is completely occupied another one it remains de jure, it’s recognized as such by the all the international community (138 countries) except western countries, when iraq occupied kuwait it neither made kuwait government “non de jure” nor made it lose it’s “sovereignty” title, kuwait remained a de jure state even during the occupation, countries remain “de jure” even if 100% of all it’s lands are under foreign occupation Amr.elmowaled (talk) 13:54, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
- See the RFC above about this issue. Selfstudier (talk) 14:28, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
population
The article in three different places gives three different numbers. Please syncronize.99.73.36.110 (talk) 04:33, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 18 December 2022
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93.172.205.135 (talk) 13:18, 18 December 2022 (UTC)change first sentences, It is written Palestinian state is occupied by Israel since 1967 but actually Palestine was never a state prior to 1967 west bank was belong to Jordanian kingdom and Gaza belonged to Egypt Please clarify this on the first rows.
I reverted the edit because the info is already included in the article lead at the end of para 2. Good idea, in general, to require sourcing for edit reqs, especially from random IP editreqs. Good idea to actually read the article as well before editing it. Selfstudier (talk) 22:24, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
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Palestine is a country not a state 2A00:1851:8017:7D68:200C:465B:8490:3D8F (talk) 06:45, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: Consensus for a change is needed, although note that many people would say exactly the opposite as both these words mean different things to different people. CMD (talk) 06:50, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
Suggestion: Change 'though' to 'although' or however in the intro.
Near the end of a sentence, though is confusing and would be better served by another word. Safes007 (talk) 04:37, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
Change the name to just "Palestine", so that the page uses the common name of the state like most other pages about nation states.
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I think the name of the page "State of Palestine", which is about the nation state commonly referred to as simply "Palestine". This would mean the page uses the name that most people use to refer to the state. When searching for the page, people are going to type in "Palestine" by default, and the search bar dropdown doesn't suggest "State of Palestine" as one of the things they could be looking for. Also, most pages on Wikipedia about nation states use the common name of the state as the title of the page. Just a few examples, with format "common English name (official English name)":
United Kingdom (United Kingdom of Great Britain and North Ireland) United States (United States of America) China (People's Republic of China) France (French Republic) Brazil (Federative Republic of Brazil) Egypt (Arab Republic of Egypt) Israel (State of Israel) Australia (Commonwealth of Australia) East Timor (Democratic Republic of Timor-Leste) Tanzania (United Republic of Tanzania) Kosovo (Republic of Kosovo) North Korea (Democratic People's Republic of Korea) Cyprus (Republic of Cyprus) Armenia (Republic of Armenia)
And many more. There is also nothing that they have in common with each other that Palestine doesn't that means it should not be named the same way as them. 81.106.42.190 (talk) 21:21, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
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- Not done: page move requests should be made at Wikipedia:Requested moves. Lemonaka (talk) 21:53, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Lemonaka: No, a page move request would be made here, see WP:RSPM. Zerotalk 01:34, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
Requested move 12 January 2023
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The result of the move request was: Procedural close because the nominating editor is not ecp qualified to participate in RFC discussions. Selfstudier (talk) 22:03, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
State of Palestine → Palestine – I think the name of the page "State of Palestine", which is about the nation state commonly referred to as simply "Palestine". This would mean the page uses the name that most people use to refer to the state. When searching for the page, people are going to type in "Palestine" by default, and the search bar dropdown doesn't suggest "State of Palestine" as one of the things they could be looking for. Also, most pages on Wikipedia about nation states use the common name of the state as the title of the page. Just a few examples, with format "common English name (official English name)":
United Kingdom (United Kingdom of Great Britain and North Ireland), United States (United States of America), China (People's Republic of China), France (French Republic), Brazil (Federative Republic of Brazil), Egypt (Arab Republic of Egypt), Israel (State of Israel), Australia (Commonwealth of Australia), East Timor (Democratic Republic of Timor-Leste), Tanzania (United Republic of Tanzania), Kosovo (Republic of Kosovo), North Korea (Democratic People's Republic of Korea), Cyprus (Republic of Cyprus), Armenia (Republic of Armenia)
And many more. There is also nothing that they have in common with each other that Palestine doesn't that means it should not be named the same way as them. 81.106.42.190 (talk) 14:41, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
- The problem is that Palestine has a number of meanings Palestine. Slatersteven (talk) 14:52, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
- Comment In principle, I agree with the proposal. However, if you create the wikilink Palestine, or the ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:Palestine and see where you end up, it can be seen why this is not currently done. Perhaps not impossible to solve but I doubt that the will to do it exists. If one looks up the page, there were three prior attempts to do this, the last time in 2017 here, no consensus Selfstudier (talk) 15:01, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
- Support per nom, clearly PRIMARY.--Ortizesp (talk) 21:07, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
- I believe this should be procedurally closed as the filer is not allowed to participate in these discussions.
- Sir Joseph (talk) 21:17, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
Partially recognized state
I made this edit which was reverted by @Selfstudier. I was referred to the RfC here above, but it was actually inconclusive with no consensus reached. It's already mentioned as such in the infobox, which gives me confidence in the correctness of the label.
My motivation for writing "partially recognized state" is because it reflects the situation the best. 55 states, including the US, Canada, the UK, AUS/NZ and most of the EU, do not recognize the State of Palestine. Which is where I'm pretty sure the bulk of English Wikipedia readers come from, which makes these two words worth mentioning. Synotia (talk) 20:42, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
- No consensus to include defaults to not included. Which you would know if you actually read the conclusion of the RFC. nableezy - 20:54, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
- Also, the RFC is here, the close is up above due to a quirk in timing. nableezy - 20:56, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
- Oh thanks. Hmm, I see I'm far from alone... Synotia (talk) 20:59, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
- Also far from a consensus. nableezy - 21:03, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
- Oh thanks. Hmm, I see I'm far from alone... Synotia (talk) 20:59, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
- I will change the infobox back as well at some point. Since Israel is also included in Partially recognized state (ie List of states with limited recognition), how about I wander over to the Israel page and mark it as a partially recognized state, see what happens? Selfstudier (talk) 23:19, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
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I would just like to fix a mention of Stefan Löfven's name, it's written as "Stefan Lofven" somewhere. Polishedrelish (talk) 04:50, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
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