::::(Yes we are two users using the same account, I just want this discussion to be done.) [[Special:Contributions/2001:48F8:4028:1C23:0:0:0:C1A8|2001:48F8:4028:1C23:0:0:0:C1A8]] ([[User talk:2001:48F8:4028:1C23:0:0:0:C1A8|talk]]) 03:18, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
::::(Yes we are two users using the same account, I just want this discussion to be done.) [[Special:Contributions/2001:48F8:4028:1C23:0:0:0:C1A8|2001:48F8:4028:1C23:0:0:0:C1A8]] ([[User talk:2001:48F8:4028:1C23:0:0:0:C1A8|talk]]) 03:18, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
:::::Not account, IP address. Maybe you two live in the same city? [[Special:Contributions/178.120.15.212|178.120.15.212]] ([[User talk:178.120.15.212|talk]]) 07:14, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
:::::Not account, IP address. Maybe you two live in the same city? [[Special:Contributions/178.120.15.212|178.120.15.212]] ([[User talk:178.120.15.212|talk]]) 07:14, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
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deep sigh Alright, although I am hugely skeptical this will go anywhere, I will give this a chance. Let's start with the basics: seeing that I did my due diligence and brought the required receipts for my edit, why on Earth do I need YOUR consensus?! Transylvania1916 (talk) 08:40, 12 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It's not an improvement. The infobox is already too overcrowded. It's "status" for just the last two year's of A-H's existence isn't worth adding. It's also not a clear-cut fact (which infoboxes are most suited to) it's a judgment. You've put forward no reason for its inclusion other than you want it. DeCausa (talk) 09:16, 12 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"isn't worth adding" - Why do you get to decide this? Clearly, I think it IS worth adding.
"It's also not a clear-cut fact" - Do you have any idea how insulting and infuriating this is? There were countries that had the "satellite state" tag in their infoboxes for years, without any cited source following that. I cited a reputable source that not only explicitly calls AH a satellite, but also details why. To reject this, after other countries had this uncited tag for years, is to me the epitomy of double standards. Transylvania1916 (talk) 09:27, 12 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Irrelevant to this article. See WP:OTHERCONTENT. The citation doesn't mean you get to add it - I've already linked to WP:ONUS. If you don't like Wikipedia's policies and how things work here you don't have to edit. DeCausa (talk) 09:35, 12 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nah, I'll just stick to comparative data tables then. See, this is why I hate taking it to the talk page: people bombarding me with WPs instead of talking like normal humans. How does this even happen? This whole project started as an initiative of common folk, but it ended up with a bureaucracy just as stuffy and suffocating as that of an institution of people in suits. You are randos on the internet, stop taking yourselves so seriously. I'll see myself out of this thread now, but for the record I do want to add that I apologize for insulting you. I was in a bad head space but I shouldn't take that out on others. Transylvania1916 (talk) 09:48, 12 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Apology accepted. I've added A-H's loss of autonomy to the relevant part of the article with the Bassett book as a source. DeCausa (talk) 10:25, 12 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Information on speakers from census incorrect.
There would have been more Romanian speakers at around 30-35% at least in the time period discussed. Mainly due to the little discuses fact that Romanian spoke Hungarian to avoid prosecution 2A00:23C5:DF87:1801:8532:DC66:4AA1:F5CE (talk) 05:32, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I've just watched the video, and it actually just summarizes the (long, long, long) debate about this page's infobox flag(s), and how Wikipedia's presentation of flags has impacted the presentation of flags off-wiki... which is why I think it's weird that people interpret the video as a call-to-action on this particular article. The creator is actually pretty clear about how this debate was settled. Wracking💬22:09, 6 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
RfC: Should the dual flags be displayed along with the civil ensign?
No. The civil ensign does not appear in this article and was removed 2 years ago. This was resolved by an RfC back then. DeCausa (talk) 21:54, 6 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment That RfC was no consensus, there was only a compromise.
(Also, yes I am aware that Autria-Hungary had no official flag, but still the unofficial flag is better, in my opinon, makes it easier to determine whether it is the Austrian Empire, or Austria-Hungary. Granted I do understand if this change is not warranted.) 2001:48F8:4028:1C23:0:0:0:8900 (talk) 03:09, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]