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Regarding "the zodiac killer"'s usage of "Blue Meanies" against the Police

From the Blue Meanies (Yellow Submarine)'s wiki entry:

A name given to members of the Alameda County Sheriff's Office after the 1969 events, where while wearing blue jumpsuits the Sheriff's Office resorted to use of shooting tear gas into crowds of protesters in Berkeley, California's People's Park.^[1]^[2]

It's most likely "the zodiac" read that newspaper and borrowed it from it or from it's peers-to-lingo press.-User:Dxrd, January 1st, 2022. 22:22 PM.

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^ Harry Hamlin (2010). Full Frontal Nudity: The Making of an Accidental Actor. Simon and Schuster. ISBN 978-1-4391-6999-5.
^ Jesse P. Ritter, Jr. (15 August 1969). "Nightmare for the innocent in a California jail". Life. 67 (7): 54. ISSN 0024-3019.

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In Murders and correspondence/First letters from the Zodiac, end of 4th paragraph's first sentence, a slash was typed instead of a period. AlcoholicGel (talk) 14:52, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done Cannolis (talk) 15:03, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Yasien Ibrahim Eldieb (talk) 15:21, 4 July 2023 (UTC) Its called paradise not paradice[reply]

Yes, but it's a direct quote, so it's spelled as the original. That's what the [sic] indicates. We don't correct quoted spelling. Acroterion (talk) 15:34, 4 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Acroterion, I had just added the [sic] to the first instance of the word, but reverted since the article text discusses the numerous misspellings in the deciphered message. Xan747 (talk) 15:39, 4 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the misspellings are a characteristic of those communications. The editor who asked the question probably doesn't realize that. Acroterion (talk) 15:44, 4 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

37

Zodiac did not claim to have murdered 37 people. He just stated the number 37 in a communication. Please delete this false information. 2A00:23C6:410F:A001:6908:F848:BECB:549B (talk) 21:46, 4 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Zodiac may have intentionally linked crimes and letters

Content draft: Since the early years, there has been support for Zodiac intentionally linking crimes by showing preferences for certain elements of attacks:

Locations near water[], such as Lake Herman Road and Lake Berryessa.

Attacking close to holidays[] and other significant dates, including Independence Day and Halloween.

Many more possible links have been considered over the years. Targeting young couples seemed intentional based upon the first attacks for which Zodiac took credit. Using .22 caliber long round ammunition may have been a preference. The shooting of taxi driver Paul Stine appears to have been an intentional repeat of the killing of taxi driver Ray Davis. Zodiac possibly killed other individuals with the surname Davis[], including Elaine Davis (1969, Walnut Creek) and Carolyn Davis (1973)[].

Notes: I am considering a new section for this. It does not seem to fit with any existing section.

The phrasing can be debated. "Water references" perhaps should be included because of Riverside. I did add "other significant dates" because Cheri Jo Bates died close to Halloween.

This topic is significant because there are many unconfirmed Zodiac crimes which may share links with the confirmed and likely Zodiac attacks.

Sources: Graysmith's 1986 book is the primary source. It discusses the water and significant day link (pages 80-81) and lists Elaine Davis and Carolyn Davis as possible Zodiac victims (pages 309, 311). For Carolyn Davis, I will provide a link to her section of the SRHM page.

For the Davis name, tentatively I will also cite a self-published book which I co-authored. I will not mention other possible Davis victims or Davis references discussed in the book, however.

VallejoHistory (talk) 21:49, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Firstly, you need to read WP:OR, as it appears that you are partly relying on your own research. Wikipedia can only publish material which have reliable, secondary, sources. Regards, David J Johnson (talk) 12:21, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I actually read the policies carefully and followed the instructions to declare the usage of my own material in the talk page.

As your comment implies rejection my material, I plan to remove the citation to my work and replace the sentence with Elaine and Carolyn with:

Other possible victims with the surname Davis include Elaine Davis (1969, Walnut Creek) and Carolyn Davis (1973, Northern California). In the unconfirmed Zodiac May 1978 "Channel Nine" letter, Zodiac also mentioned former former LA Police Chief Edward M. Davis.

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The above are only the best documented. For example, Zodiac may have begun to harass Sandy Betts, my co-author, while she was using the surname Davis. There are many more, with one unsolved 1971 homicide and one unpublished letter being strong candidates for Zodiac.

The killing of Ray Davis supports Zodiac killing well after October 1969. This is incredibly important. Simply the idea that Paul Stine's shooting was a reenactment of the shooting of Ray Davis expands how Zodiac can be perceived. VallejoHistory (talk) 00:30, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Harry Hamlin (2010). Full Frontal Nudity: The Making of an Accidental Actor. Simon and Schuster. ISBN 978-1-4391-6999-5.

[Life-2] Jesse P. Ritter, Jr. (15 August 1969). "Nightmare for the innocent in a California jail". Life. 67 (7): 54. ISSN 0024-3019.

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 : Firstly, you need to read [[WP:OR]], as it appears that you are partly relying on your own research.  Wikipedia can only publish material which have reliable, secondary, sources. Regards, [[User:David J Johnson|David J Johnson]] ([[User talk:David J Johnson|talk]]) 12:21, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
+::I actually read the policies carefully and followed the instructions to declare the usage of my own material in the talk page.
+::As your comment implies rejection my material, I plan to remove the citation to my work and replace the sentence with Elaine and Carolyn with:
+::Other possible victims with the surname Davis include Elaine Davis (1969, Walnut Creek) and Carolyn Davis (1973, Northern California).  In the unconfirmed Zodiac May 1978 "Channel Nine" letter, Zodiac also mentioned former former LA Police Chief Edward M. Davis.
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+::The above are only the best documented.  For example, Zodiac may have begun to harass Sandy Betts, my co-author, while she was using the surname Davis.  There are many more, with one unsolved 1971 homicide and one unpublished letter being strong candidates for Zodiac.
+::The killing of Ray Davis supports Zodiac killing well after October 1969.  This is incredibly important.  Simply the idea that Paul Stine's shooting was a reenactment of the shooting of Ray Davis expands how Zodiac can be perceived. [[User:VallejoHistory|VallejoHistory]] ([[User talk:VallejoHistory|talk]]) 00:30, 3 September 2023 (UTC)