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:being completely honest, I really don’t think so. Hasn’t been verified. Just allegations. [[User:Bizarre90|Bizarre90]] ([[User talk:Bizarre90|talk]]) 02:35, 10 May 2024 (UTC) |
:being completely honest, I really don’t think so. Hasn’t been verified. Just allegations. [[User:Bizarre90|Bizarre90]] ([[User talk:Bizarre90|talk]]) 02:35, 10 May 2024 (UTC) |
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::The leaked video? Yes, I think it should be included. It ties to the feud at the very least [[Special:Contributions/24.246.150.107|24.246.150.107]] ([[User talk:24.246.150.107|talk]]) 05:08, 11 May 2024 (UTC) |
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Did you know nomination
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by BorgQueen (talk) 08:35, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- ... that Drake has the personal approval of Barack Obama to portray the U.S. president in a biopic if the opportunity came? Source: Variety
ALT1: ... that Drake took a hiatus from his musical career to return to television as executive producer of Euphoria?Source: The Hollywood Reporter- Reviewed: Drew O'Connor
- Comment: Tried to go with lesser known trivia than ‘Did you know that… Drake shattered x record?’ QPQ review coming later as my battery is currently at 6%
Improved to Good Article status by Trillfendi (talk). Self-nominated at 19:30, 26 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Drake (musician); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
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Overall: No issues with anything as far as the actual hook or article are concerned (I'd definitely go with ALT0 over ALT1 personally) but holding off on giving it the all clear until the QPQ has been done. Turnagra (talk) 07:48, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Turnagra: qpq done now. Trillfendi (talk) 18:10, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks - happy to go ahead and approve this with ALT0 now! Turnagra (talk) 18:53, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
- Trillfendi, any objection to me getting an image from the article and putting this in the lead slot? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 00:46, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks - happy to go ahead and approve this with ALT0 now! Turnagra (talk) 18:53, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
Cuts to career section
The article's length was previously well over 14,000 words, placing it firmly in the zone of the guidance at WP:TOOBIG. This was mostly due to a bloated career section, which seemingly included every minor detail and track Drake has ever been involved in, as well as unclear, poor-quality prose.
I have removed much of this information per WP:NOTEVERYTHING ("A Wikipedia article should not be a complete exposition of all possible details, but a summary of accepted knowledge regarding its subject.") and WP:INDISCRIMINATE ("...merely being true, or even verifiable, does not automatically make something suitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia.").
The removal of 3,000 words of trivia has thus made it easier for an uninformed reader to follow the key points, without getting bogged down in minor details. Please do not restore this information without replying here (preferably with a ping to me). I would also suggest cutting down what looks like a horrifically bloated "Controversies" section. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 02:37, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
- An aside, some of the facts cut from this page might be more appropriate for an individual work of Drake's rather than his own biography, if they are not already present. dannymusiceditor oops 06:11, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 6 March 2024
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Change the line "In his youth, he attended a Jewish day school and became a bar mitzvah." to "In his youth, he attended a Jewish day school and had a bar mitzvah." since a bar mitzvah is an event, not something that one becomes. JoeTheOtherSnake (talk) 00:38, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Not done: There is a note in the article text explaining this:
"becoming a bar mitzah" is grammatically correct. "Having a bar mitzvah" is a misnomer.
- The same syntax is used at Bar and bat mitzvah, this appears to be correct. I didn't realize this either. Jamedeus (talk) 00:47, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
Jobs in first sentence
Hi, I'd argue Drake isn't commonly described as an actor and hasn't been nominated for any important acting award. Thedarkknightli (talk) 00:10, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
- He got famous for acting first, he then started rapping and found more success in the music business, but he started out gaining recognition as an actor and continued pursuing that career throughout the years; as stated in MOS:LEADBIO -> One, or possibly more, noteworthy positions, activities, or roles that the person is mainly known for, he got famous for acting first so that's one of the most noteworthy positions that Drake is known for DollysOnMyMind (talk) 14:21, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- He starred in more than 10 high profile movies, and almost 20 television shows - definitely an actor DollysOnMyMind (talk) 14:23, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not saying he isn't notable for being such but I don't consider it one of his most notable jobs either. Its inclusion in the infobox is sufficient imo. Thedarkknightli (talk) 23:43, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- What do you consider is beyond irrelevant if it goes against MOS:LEADBIO. Now, while you contemplate about considering whatever you want, please stop edit warring like a soldier, I'm reverting you back and I will report you if you continue this disruptive pattern. DollysOnMyMind (talk) 14:13, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not saying he isn't notable for being such but I don't consider it one of his most notable jobs either. Its inclusion in the infobox is sufficient imo. Thedarkknightli (talk) 23:43, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- He starred in more than 10 high profile movies, and almost 20 television shows - definitely an actor DollysOnMyMind (talk) 14:23, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
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Add "push ups" to his career page. He just dropped this single. OftenCheap (talk) 18:19, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Not done: see WP:NOTNEWS, unless this is a particularly notable single it doesn't need to be included in his biography. It has already been added to Drake singles discography. Jamedeus (talk) 18:32, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
Drake leak
Should I add drake leak to the controversies tab Zosoyu (talk) 19:35, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- being completely honest, I really don’t think so. Hasn’t been verified. Just allegations. Bizarre90 (talk) 02:35, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- The leaked video? Yes, I think it should be included. It ties to the feud at the very least 24.246.150.107 (talk) 05:08, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
New subsection in career for 2024-present
Reached the max amount of main articles (3) for old subsection, should make new one? ModlordD (talk) 03:26, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- I think so 24.121.41.160 (talk) 05:15, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
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Hello Editor Lords, Please correct This line "An hour later on May 4th, Kendrick Lamar released "Meet the Grahams." "[X] to this line corrected to "20 minutes later on May 3rd, Kendrick Lamar released "Meet the Grahams." "[Y]
Source: Youtube Video Upload Create Timestamps, Meet the Grahams Create Date minus Family Matters video timestamp.
Both are on the same Date within a time difference of 20mins.
Meet The grahams: Video Upload/Create date May 3rd.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QiFl9Dc7D0&ab_channel=KendrickLamar
DRAKE - FAMILY MATTERS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkXG3ZrXlbc&ab_channel=Drake
Thank you, LG LordMilkGod (talk) 05:33, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- Done. Secondary reliable sources are preferred for citations, so I've used this BBC article for the 20 minutes figure. — Newslinger talk 03:54, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
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Change 2 kids to 2 kids (that we know of) 74.105.243.143 (talk) 19:21, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. A diss track is a questionable primary source, and is not considered a reliable source for the proposed edit. — Newslinger talk 03:22, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 5 May 2024
In the controversies section the sentence 'In 2019 Drake payed a $350,000 settlement to a woman accusing him of sexual assault.' should be changed, swapping payed for the correct spelling paid. Rentre (talk) 19:54, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- Fixed in Special:Diff/1222464958. Thank you for suggesting this. — Newslinger talk 03:22, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
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Drake is said to have more than 1 kid. While there is only 1 confirmed one, there have been many women who claim that the father of their child is Drake, and a good amount of these women have good evidence. In Kendrick Lamar's diss-track against Drake, called 'meet the grahams', he says that he is hiding a daughter. Here are the verses that claim this. "Dear baby girl, I'm sorry that your father not active inside your world. He don't commit to much but his music, yeah, that's for sure. He a narcissist, misogynist, livin' inside his songs, try destroy families rather than takin' care of his own. Should be teachin' you time tables or watchin' Frozen with you, Or at your eleventh birthday singin' poems with you." Because of this and many more reasons, I believe that we should change the amount of children Drake has from 1, to at least 2. Carterzoro (talk) 23:45, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- I stopped reading after "only 1 confirmed one". mftp dan oops 00:48, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. A diss track is a questionable primary source, and is not considered a reliable source for the proposed edit. — Newslinger talk 03:22, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
Adding sub-section to Controversies regarding allegations of sexual impropriety
Allegations of Drake engaging in pedophilic behavior have been discussed before by public figures (consider non hip-hop related comedian Shane Gillis stating that Drake "likes them young" in this podcast at mark 1:49:00), and within publications like Business Insider, with discussion of a video of Drake fondling a 17 year old girl on stage at a concert early in his career.
However, these allegations had not received mainstream notoriety before the Drake–Kendrick Lamar feud, certainly not to the degree they are currently receiving with public + musical accusations from Drake's musical contemporaries. I think now, with Drake responding directly to these allegations in his response to Kendrick, "The Heart Part 6" released on May 5th, a section in his article detailing the several allegations is justified. This would include his personal relationship to an underage Millie Bobby Brown and to model Bella Harris before and after she turned 18 (both mentioned in the Business Insider article above). SCSQ3 (talk) 17:11, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Some more articles - NYLON Mag in 2018, VICE in 2019 and USA Today with regards to Drake's response "The Heart Part 6" SCSQ3 (talk) 20:12, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
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The article lists Drake as having "at least 1" children. Either he has more than one children, or only has one. Wikipedia shouldn't add qualifiers like this that imply what is essentially gossip is a fact—see WP:GRAPEVINE. The accusation of more than one child is already made in the "Family and relationships" section. I propose changing it back to "1". AbsoluteWissen (talk) 08:01, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- Done. Thanks. Instantwatym (talk) 18:15, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
May 7 shooting
Drake's security guard was injured outside of his home. I heard about this as it happened yesterday and it's reported by The Guardian and The New York Times. There was info about it on the article for the Drake-Lamar feud, especially since some suspect the shooting to have a connection with Lamar's "Not Like Us", but it's currently unconfirmed. The info on that article has since been removed but there's no mention on this one. I'm planning to add info about it here if there are no objections. Carlinal (talk) 16:43, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
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Under the controversies section add information about Kendrick Lamar and his ongoing battle with Drake. OJSimpsonLover (talk) 03:43, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. We already mention it, what specifically are you requesting? Cannolis (talk) 05:46, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- The requester has been indefinitely blocked for vandalism. Air on White (talk) 06:13, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
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drake has 2 children Abcjsjshs job c (talk) 09:55, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Charliehdb (talk) 10:17, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
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change drakes children number to 2 and more, cuz he got more that 2 77.219.3.111 (talk) 18:31, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Then show us verifiable proof of that in a reliable source instead of rumors.... Trillfendi (talk) 18:51, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Jamedeus (talk) 19:39, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
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