User talk:Dekimasu

こんにちは。I try to accept criticism of my edits and responsibility for my comments, and I believe that all editing disputes can be resolved amicably. Please feel free to express your opinion or ask for my help. I will get back to you as soon as possible. I have an archive of older topics from this page. It can be accessed here.

WP:PROD

I almost can't believe how far I'm going for such an insignificant article. Anyway, maybe, and just maybe, you want to read (and then feel remorse for doing it) my answer to your prod. Also, I'm still trying to understand what's that WP:SNOW you dislike. :o

Just a side note, I've noticed you must like Bleach... If, by any chance, you are not an anime fan, and you also hated basically all the Bount Arc, you should try Full Metal Alchemist and / or The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya. I envy you so much you're both learning japanese and living there. --Caue (T | C) 02:48, Thursday 2007-03-29 (UTC)

Thank you for your well-thought-out response. I tried to write one to you as well, but it was eaten by my browser, so here's an imperfect rehash of what I tried to write.

Unfortunately (or fortunately?) my post to your talk page was mostly the result of Template:PRODWarning, rather than my own words. The project that might be interested in a transwiki is Wiktionary, but we wouldn't then leave a redirect to another website.

I'm willing to discuss PROD philosphy with you if you'd like. You asked me to consider improving the article instead; of course, I do add information to lots of articles. I proposed doki doki for deletion because I don't think that the topic has the breadth to develop into a viable article. I doubt that encyclopedic information could be added as to its significance, although it is an interesting word. Deleting articles of the kinds referred to in WP:NOT helps Wikipedia to maintain and improve its reputation (not really an issue here) and stops it from taking over the realms of other sites like Wiktionary and Wikitravel.

Hmm. I've tried to think of things that might make you feel a little better about this. How about a redirect to Japanese sound symbolism (i.e. gitaigo and giseigo), and adding dokidoki to the list of examples? With the breadth of gitaigo that's out there, I don't feel it's really necessary to have both kirakira and giragira in the box, so it could easily replace one of those. Dekimasu 05:07, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Having posted this, I can see it looks a lot more blunt than what I meant to write. Believe me that I'm sorry, and be thankful you don't have to use evil Japanese web browsers that eat your well-intentioned posts. By the way, I did hate the Bount arc, but I read the comics much more than I watch the anime. Manga is really good reading practice because the pictures give you cues if you forget a kanji. I hope you'll have a chance to try and learn Japanese. Dekimasu 05:12, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

I hate when that happens, those damn starving browsers... On firefox I've even had a plugin where I could save a temporary file with a shortcut, just like I would do in a normal notepad, back when I used to use non-gmail browser text forms a lot. Maybe you should look into that kind of thing, since you do so many edits around here. It shouldn't be hard to find.

Anyway, yeah, redirecting to a "grouping" article sounds good. I'll take a look on it whenever I have the time. Maybe improving that japanese sound symbolism, maybe using another more relevant with the same grouping idea in mind, or maybe just moving it there as it is. Hopefully before those 4 days left.

I realised that it was a template just before I've answered it, but I don't like editing what I write too much. Specially not deleting (or losing). I choose pen over pencil. :P One reason I love wikipedia so much is not just the fact you can correct and clean up messed things, but you can also look at the mess (through history) and learn a lot from so many mistakes. I wouldn't mind any deletion at all if the article history was saved, i.e. basically setting a page to blank. It'd be just like deletion is really done on old disk partition techniques (which are the same used in domestic computers today), by the way.

About manga, I've never thought about it like that, although I used to read translated Ranma 1/2. I thought you'd say "I read manga because the story is better there", which is true most of the time, just like books are mostly better than movies. But I still prefer watching an animated story than reading it, for many reasons. Maybe I can catch the spoken language, just like I did with english... And maybe I can eventually learn the writing from games, closed captions and internet, again as I did with english. :o But I think that learning japanese would take me way more time than it already took me with english.

And don't worry, you don't look blunt to me. Specially after I realized how different PROD is from AfD. Plus, I still would like to discuss over all the fuss around deletion with ya.

--Caue (T | C) 18:14, Thursday 2007-03-29 (UTC)

Just to get back to you quickly: since the prod is expiring, I'm going to perform the redirect now and I'll change a few things on Japanese sound symbolism later. The history will stay around with the redirect in place. I'll try to reply to you in more detail later on. Thanks for the kind reply. Dekimasu 04:06, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

dekimasu

Hmm, I knew I've heard dekimasu somewhere before... It was from that (any) little j-girl joyfully screaming when she finished something. And now I wonder why you chose that codename! :P --Caue (T | C) 19:05, Thursday 2007-03-29 (UTC)

Disambiguation - Primary topic

At Talk:State university (disambiguation)#Survey - in opposition to the move you say I know we've had this discussion before. Did you have any particular discussion(s) in mind? Which? Andrewa 00:45, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Last month you asked me to consider reigonal bias in terms of universities and naming at Talk:University of Wisconsin, and we also discussed whether frequency of searches, or all searches, should be considered in page naming. I came upon the proposed move you mention here through Wikipedia:Requested moves. Knowing that you have previously expressed similar opposition to applying the guideline to universities, I thought it would be reasonable to ask you to move towards a broader discussion of the standard. Dekimasu 04:06, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

OK, so that's Talk:University of Wisconsin#NPOV, around about March 9? Agree clarification seems necessary, and I've started a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Disambiguation#Primary topic.

It's actually a guideline rather than a standard. That's important I think. Andrewa 20:45, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes, that is the discussion I was talking about. Of course we can violate guidelines when there is sufficient reason to do so, but in this case I believe we would see a move request in the opposite direction within a short period of time. By "standard" I meant "the criteria that cause something to fall under the scope of the guideline". Dekimasu 03:01, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Utada

Replied. - Neier 07:20, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the note... thought my message might have gotten lost in the archiving. I've replied to your reply. Dekimasu 07:42, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Aha: "(removing sentence fragment that appears to have been added in error)". Thanks for fixing that. It's the text of my edit summary, and I must have dropped it carelessly into the article also. – Noetica^♬♩ Talk 08:57, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

No problem. Dekimasu 11:31, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

By Japan

Note from Dekimasu: This was my original message to User:Radiant!, brought over here so that the discussion causing the nomination will be in one place: You recently closed a discussion at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2007 March 27#Category:Singaporean executions that resulted in the move of Category:Japanese executions to Category:People executed by Japan. I don't dispute the close or the applicability of the debate to Singapore, but a lot of the people in the category about Japan were executed "in Japan" (by warring factions) rather than "by Japan", as an action of the Japanese government. I was considering initiating another move request, but I thought I would ask for your thoughts first. Dekimasu 06:58, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Hm, that's an interesting complication that I was unaware of. But wouldn't "executions in Japan" also include people executed by, say, China or the US, as long as the execution took place in Japan? >Radiant< 09:41, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes, it would broaden the category slightly over the previous meaning (I believe the only new additions would be Japanese war criminals from World War II). I thought that would be preferable to a name change that excluded articles from the category they were in before the move, particularly since the scope of the original title wasn't what was in question.

The current name has broadened the reach of the category in some ways as well. It appears that it should include executions outside of Japan but under the direction of the Japanese government, such as executions in Korea between 1910 and 1945, conflicts in Manchukuo, etc. Dekimasu 11:30, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, I have no objection to such broadening per se, but my point is that if there is a bunch of similar cats ("executions in <foo>") then they should all work the same way, otherwise it gets confusing to both users and editors. >Radiant< 11:49, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

I understand that. In that case, I'd suggest that it would be better to slightly broaden all of these categories in the same way, rather than have some articles in incorrect categories as the result of the moves. I can, if we decide to keep the "by Japan" name, go through and remove all of the ones that no longer belong in the category. It seems like a shame and a pain, since the current members of the category are unqualifiably "executions in Japan", but I can do it. On the other hand, I don't know how many other categories have had similar shifts resulting in articles placed in the wrong categories, and I'd be less qualified and somewhat less willing to deal with those problems. Dekimasu 11:57, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

That sounds good, but may require a new rename suggestion on CFD (esp. since the previous CFD didn't really have all that many participants). Note that the actual related CFD was closed by Vegaswikian, not me. >Radiant< 12:16, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for clarifying that for me. The population of the new category was being done by a bot, and it only referred me to the log for March 27. I assumed that the move was a result of the close on Category:Singaporean executions, since that was the one I noticed at the very top of the page. I'll mention the issue to Vegaswikian and probably open a new discussion. Dekimasu 12:23, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

I was asked to stop by since I did the close. I'll follow the discussion here for a few days, so no need to reply on my page. Maybe the solution is to add some categories that are not just by country. In the case of Japan, we could add a category for the waring factions. That way it would still be executions by someone. I have problems with this suggestion for other reasons, but maybe it could help with finding a solution. Vegaswikian 16:34, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Under the current title, at least eight of the fifteen pages in this category need to be pulled out. As I said, I can do the work in this particular category, which would include recategorization. I'd like to hear a little more about what you see as problems with the suggestion, though, because other categories from the move may be in the same condition. Dekimasu 17:02, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

My concern was with the types of categories that would be created and where they should go. However after looking at Category:Executed people I see that my concerns are not real. There are logical groupings there. I don't see any reason why adding your cleanup as additional sub categories would be an issue. Vegaswikian 19:57, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

If you look at Category:Executions by country, two of the categories do fit the "in <foo>" setup (Singapore and the United States). Executions by the warring factions in Japan are not subcategories of the current Category:People executed by Japan, which prevents any of those executed people from being categorized "by country". However, other editors have pulled four articles out of the Japan category since last night, so I'll pull out the rest and then let it go. I hope that editors are looking at the other renames for similar issues. If you decide to change your mind, please let me know. Dekimasu 04:18, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Language ordering

Please note that the bot's language ordering in Bleach (manga) is actually widely accepted and also used by most other bots. There was a straw poll about it a while ago and the result was about 50/50. Basically the bot ordered the languages by their native name, which is easier to navigate for reader (and harder for editors, but you learn after a while). Some notable languages which are not as their appear are Hebrew (Ivrit), Japanese (Nihongo), Chinese (Zhongwen), Korean (Hangugeo) and Finnish (Suomi). -- Ynhockey ^(Talk) 08:51, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the information and for reverting my error. I was very confused, and now it's all perfectly clear to me. Dekimasu 09:13, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Haw!

Belated kudos for your very funny WP:POINT comment at Wikipedia:Article Creation and Improvement Drive/Removed/Archive2#Godwin's Law. — SMcCandlish [talk] [cont] ‹(-¿-)› 14:17, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Gypsy

Answered on my page. Cheers. MadMaxDog 04:44, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Mongrain - モングレイン ??

[French]
Bonjour, je prend contact avec vous afin d'éclaicir un article de traduction en japonnais. Au départ, j'avais créé un article avec les caractère エリック・モングレン, mais les wikipédiens on décidés que cela devait s'écrire エリック・モングレイン à la place, étant donnée que Erik n'avait pas de site officiel en japonnais pour déterminer quelle façon écrire son nom. Je suis Webmaster de Erik Mongrain, pour faire les pages en japonnais, le traducteur a épellé Erik Mongrain エリック・モングレン. Le problème que je rencontre c'est qu'il y a deux façon d'écrire son nom en japonnais et je me demandais quel était le bon pour que je puisse écrire son site officiel de la bonne façon (et l'article wikipedia)...

• エリック・モングレイン - Wikipedia
• エリック・モングレン - Traducteur

Ma question est : lequel parmi ces deux appellations vous choisieriez pour le nom officiel de Erik Mongrain en japonnais??

Merci à l'avance pour votre aide. Passez une bonne journée! --Antaya 00:56, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

First, I'm sorry that I can't answer in French. In advertising for his appearance on Japanese TV next month, NHK has decided to spell his name as モングレイン. This is probably a transliteration based on the English language pronounciation of the word "grain". Because NHK is generally considered a reliable source, I am not surprised that the Japanese page is in the process of being moved. However, the station is wrong in this case. The name should be spelled モングレン as transliterated from the French pronunciation, and I recommend that you use モングレン for your website.

Next, please take a look at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. I believe, personally, that these articles should be in the encyclopedia, but please be very careful when editing articles related to people you work with. If the article appears to promote or advertise Erik Mongrain, it can cause trouble for your editor account or the article itself.

I hope that these comments will help you. Please feel free to ask me if you have any other problems. Dekimasu 04:47, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Re: Macronned article titles

Ah, thanks for reminding me; I suppose I missed that. I created a redirect for the name, and will be more carefull in the future.--十八 04:03, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

I think I created the one I was asking about, but maybe you found others? Anyway, you're welcome. Dekimasu 04:55, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Counter-insurgency spelling

I agree with the conclusions, because of the "first major contributor" rule. However, the stub Counterinsurgency operations predated Counter-insurgency and was eventually merged into it. Does it make sense to have a rule like this? I mean, once the first person has chosen the spelling of counterinsurgency, wouldn't it make sense for everybody to follow that lead rather than discount it because it appeared in a stub? Of course, what I am advocating would involve rewriting the relevant guideline. Joeldl 04:06, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

I believe the "we came first" rule should only be applied as a last resort – for example, when the page been the subject of recent move warring. I do believe that the letter of the rule should prefer the counterinsurgency title (it did come first, which is objective, as opposed to trying to determine the first "major" contribution), and I'll make comments to that effect in any discussion about altering the guideline. But I really feel that the most important thing is to discourage this kind of move request. Analagous to how blocks should be preventative rather than punitive, this page has a stable British-English title now, so it shouldn't be necessary for us to check on the page's origins. Thanks for asking my opinion! Let me know if you raise a discussion elsewhere and you'd like me to participate. Dekimasu 04:22, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I agree that the "stable state" rule is important. On the other hand, somebody tried to change it to Counterinsurgency not long after it was created and was rebuffed. At some point in future, I'd like to clarify some things in WP:ENGVAR, and this would be a possible amendment. I'll let you know. Joeldl 04:29, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Help needed from a Japanese speaker

Hi Dekimasu, I've noticed your work at WP:RM and elsewhere, and I would like to ask for your help. Recently, User:Mackan filed a sockpuppet case at WP:SSP relating to edit warring going on at Joji Obara, Lucie Blackman, Asahi Shimbun and elsewhere. Basically, Mackan alleges that the 2ch forums are being used to recruit new users to edit those pages to reflect a certain viewpoint; if true, this would be a violation of Wikipedia's policies against sockpuppets, specifically WP:MEAT. Mackan has provided evidence of this at Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Vml132f and on my talk page at User talk:Akhilleus#Wikipedia:Suspected_sock_puppets.2FVml132f. Unfortunately, I can't read a single character of Japanese, so I am unable to evaluate these charges fully. I would be extremely grateful if you could either take a look at Mackan's allegations and take a look at the forums he links to, to provide a perspective independent of the dispute, or put me in touch with an administrator who is fluent in Japanese. Thanks very much, and sorry to bother you. --Akhilleus (talk) 04:46, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

This is a week of holidays in Japan, so until Monday I don't have as much time to review the diffs on the Wikipedia side as I normally would, but it's abundantly clear from its first 75 posts that the purpose of the referenced 2channel thread is to encourage meatpuppetry. The OP states that the English Wikipedia is an important site around the world and that it's important to control the contents in order to fight "Korean and Chinese propaganda". There is in-depth discussion of how to avoid being blocked under the 3RR, which articles to target, and recommendations for avoiding detection as a meatpuppet.

The only administrator I know of who is listed as ja-N is User:Tangotango, and a lot of the other active editors of Japan-related articles are a bit more on the academic side and probably wouldn't be open to running through abuse reports. I think User:Nihonjoe would be able to help you, and of course I can do more next week. Don't hesitate to ask... Dekimasu 05:29, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Dekimasu, that was extremely helpful, thank you. I hope you enjoy Golden Week, and if you have a chance to look at the on-wiki side of this disruption, I'd appreciate it--but it doesn't look urgent at the moment; some articles have been protected, and a couple of probable sock/meatpuppets have been blocked. So things seem calm at the moment. Thanks again for your help. --Akhilleus (talk) 04:59, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi Dekimasu, thanks a bunch for looking into this. If possible, I'd much appreciate if you could, ASAP, save the 2channel thread onto your hard drive, as the thread will become unaccessible when it reaches a 1000 comments (it's currently on 975). I've saved it onto mine but I'm afraid I could be accused of tampering with the files, if it's only me. Again, thanks a lot. Mackan 08:57, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Too late... I did look at it at the time you sent me this message, but not on my computer, so I didn't have a chance to save it. If you can e-mail me the file, at a later date I can (by and large) confirm that it's what I read on 2channel. Dekimasu 15:28, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Emergency

Hi there. I know you have shown an interest in the debate as to whether Emergency should be an article or a dab page. I have now created an article which I believe would be suitable for the 'Emergency' page, with everything else to be moved out to a separate disambiguation page. My suggested article is here (in my name space), and the debate as to whether this will be suitable is on the Talk:emergency page. I would appreciate you input! Owain.davies 07:18, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

RfA

I see I'm not the only one who's been holding off on a nomination until Bleach made GA. (I personally don't want to run until after I graduate, which is in less than 3 weeks.)

You belittle your own work there, by the way. I may be good at figuring out how to fulfill arbitrary criteria and referencing things to death, but you're honestly a much better writer. Without your help, we'd still be languishing at B if for no other reason than that everything will be put in the passive voice by me.

Have fun with your new wikipe-mop! :) --tjstrf talk 08:22, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the kind comments. Actually, how the two coincided was just serendipitous... I wrote my basic request and saved it to a flash drive about two weeks ago, but then I left the flash drive in my desk at work while I was off for Golden Week. I transcluded my RfA on Monday, just after retrieving the drive. I know I'm about to enter a more intense period of hunting for a job, so I figured that this was the best time to get this done, not to mention some good interview practice. Dekimasu 15:28, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Good luck with it, mate. I'm not sure I'd want to stand these days; back in my day the inquisition was tedious enough, but now on average it seems to be worse. Here's a word of advice for it. I'm appalled by the way nominees and self-noms sometimes rather desperately respond to comments, to the point where any failure to respond or delay in responding looks like an admission, "Yes, you're right, you've got me by the short and curlies." At the outset of my own RfA rigmarole, I politely -- I think and hope it was polite, and nobody objected -- said that I'd try to answer any question but that I wouldn't respond to any other comment. And that's just what I did: I might have been tempted to say "Wrongo!" once or twice (I don't remember) but if so I resisted the temptation. It all went pretty smoothly for a week or whatever and I actually had time to live a normal life during that period. -- Hoary 09:27, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

I've decided (though I didn't say anything on the RfA page) that I'll reply to questions once a day. For fun, I've been reading through the RfAs of several of the Japan-focused admins, and I see your unanimous promotion, Shimeru's, LordAmeth's, Tangotango's. Nihonjoe passed with two opposes, mostly because of his signature. Did I miss someone obvious? Anyway, it's clear I have a reputation to uphold. Thanks for the advice... 無事に済むように頑張ります。 Dekimasu 15:28, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

National varieties of English

I have made a proposal to amend the guidelines at WP:MOS. The proposal is in keeping with the spirit of those guidelines, but will hopefully lead to a technical improvement. Comment is welcome at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style. Joeldl 14:16, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Noted! I'll take a look at it in the morning. Dekimasu 15:28, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Missing something?

Template:Active Wiki Fixup Projects, one of us is missing something not sure who, probably me. As I read Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates and numbers) and readers' date preferences it tells me that linked dates should display in the readers preference. The default value in preferences is no preference, so when you use the format YYYY-MM-DD it displays in that format for anyone who has not set their preferences which would also include anyone not logged in. Due to cross ocean habits 2007-05-08 could also be read as 2007-08-05, when you include a named month it eliminates the ambiguity, 2007 May 08 is clearly the same as May 08, 2007. I should have not removed the wiki links when I changed the format. I think that would have met both of our concerns, but when I changed the format the links where red, so for some reason I removed the brackets. Unless you have other concerns I will redo them tomorrow. Jeepday (talk) 04:17, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

I understand where you're coming from now (though I'm not sure which ocean I'm across!). I doubt there are many IP users around the parts of the encyclopedia that use this template, but it may very well be common to leave out a date preference. I think that using your format makes sense, as long as the dates remain linked for users who do have personalized settings. Thanks for your message. Dekimasu 16:55, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I put the change in. I am set to no preference so let me know if it looks weird or something. Jeepday (talk) 02:03, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

I took out the zeroes, per my edit summary, but other than that it should be fine. Dekimasu 03:48, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi. The instructions for Template:Active Wiki Fixup Projects state, with good reason, Note: If adding or relisting an item, please add it to the *top* of the list,. I'd be interested in knowing why in this edit you decided to move geotagging to the bottom of the list. Please let me know. --Tagishsimon (talk)

I think I had intended to group together the entries that were category-based (because there isn't really a certain time when the categories are updated), but then I got sidetracked by issues with the dates. I have no problem with the move back to the top, although it still makes sense to me to group the categories together, since their entries on the template will never really be updated. Dekimasu 00:27, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

I think you are both right. As time passes, things fall off (or an editor takes them off) and new stuff is added, it will migrate to the top of the "Category, Live up" group. Other new or updated stuff will be above it. in the mean time it gets top billing for a while. P.S. I am going to copy this whole section to Template talk:Active Wiki Fixup Projects Jeepday (talk) 12:09, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Contesting the Call For Help move

Hi there. My uncontroversial request for a move for Call for Help (TV series) is totally uncontroversial. I'm just trying to clean things up, and furthermore, the double redirects are in preparation for the move, not the other way around. It appears that you are just griefing me, as this is the second time you've pulled a simple move requests of mine. Is that true? I made a solid case as to why this should be uncontroversial, can you expand on what your objections are? Do I need the original objector to take his/her statement back? —Wikibarista 05:28, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

I don't have any motivation to cause you trouble, and I'm sorry if it appears that way. I don't know what previous request of yours I objected to, but I go through the WP:RM move requests on a daily basis, so please don't take it personally. I remembered that the request was listed as controversial in the past, so I searched for and found the objection; having been objected to before, I don't think the change can be considered uncontroversial now. It doesn't necessarily mean that the request won't be fulfilled. The next step is to create a discussion space on the article's talk page and list it under "other proposals". Stemonitis, who previously objected, is a very reasonable person, and probably the administrator who will move the page if it appears there's a consensus. You don't need to worry about trying to change his mind. Dekimasu 05:45, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

I see that the old one was related to Trillian, but I withdrew that objection of my own accord upon clarification. Please don't fault me for that. Dekimasu 05:51, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

AT&T Mobility issue

When Cingular Wireless was legally renamed AT&T Mobility in January, a user moved the page to "AT&T Mobility". Since Wikipedia rules generally stated (according to the talk page) that when things are known as one thing, the page should be the generally known name, even if the legal name differs. As a result, the discussion ended and everyone seemed happy for a month. Then, AT&T started dropping the "Cingular is now the new AT&T" logo from its advertising in newspapers, simply using "AT&T", and a user chose to move the page to AT&T WirelessLLC, then AT&T Wireless LLC. This raised a red flag with me, at which I then requested the page be moved to its correct place, AT&T Mobility, which is currently a redirect page created when Cingular was legally renamed. In the course of the 4 days since I requested the move, a user decided to move the page to another inappropriate titie, AT&T Mobility L.LC and then AT&T Mobility L.L.C., its current place. As I requested before, and you commented on, the page should be at AT&T Mobility, since most company articles here use the title the company is commonly known as, not including "Inc." or "LLC", etc.; in this case, "AT&T Mobility". KansasCity 20:33, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

I've left my input. I think the other issues I mentioned at WP:RM have mostly been straightened out. Dekimasu 01:09, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

"King Caesar" vs. "King Seesar" vs. "King Shisa"

Please see my recent comment in WP:RM.... procedure has not been followed here. Also User:Naruto134 and User:K00bine seem to be largely collaborating in the move-warring, in many Godzilla-related articles: an RFCU is in order if the decision is close. I think a lot of trouble can be spared if Naruto134 / K00bine can produce some kind of a source, but unfortunately they have refused and have resorted to personal attacks.

In any case, "King Seesar" seems to be a more acceptable alternative than "King Caesar", because it's also rumoured to be trademarked by Toho, and especially because it romanizes into the Japanese name "キングシーサー".--Endroit 19:32, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

If I was going to guess (I haven't searched through the diffs at RM for this one), I would say that the April proposal was probably moved to the incomplete section for lacking a place for discussion on the talk page, and subsequently fell off the list. At any rate, WP:MOS-JP tells us to use the English spellings instead of katakana transliterations when they're available, so Caesar seems reasonable to me. I think it's probably wrong in a certain sense, but if it's Toho turning the thing into Caesar, and "Caesar" is the common name for the thing in the English-speaking world, I don't think it's our place to correct them. The information you pulled up wasn't very clear on whether both are trademarked or not.

This is clearly a case in which I'm disagreeing with WPJ regulars whose opinions I usually agree with, but I doubt (in light of the attitude issues) that the users you're worried about are going to be taken very seriously in the close. Is there something you'd like me personally to do? Dekimasu 01:04, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

I started out writing my message above thinking that you were an admin. (Sorry, I believe I got you confused with User:Deskana). You've got enough class to be an admin though. You can ignore my message, I just wanted to explain where I was coming from, and the outcome of the WP:RM is not really that important to me... thanks! I'll see you around in the WP:J pages.--Endroit 01:23, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Well, I will (possibly, probably) become an admin today... but I don't think it would be appropriate for me to close the discussion, since I've already become involved in it. And thanks for the kind words! Dekimasu 01:26, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Enfield

Can you explain how you arrived at your views on the "primary" Enfield and why you think structuring a disambiguation page by "prevalence" is preferable (in terms of clarity for the reader) to alphabetical order? We don't start our telephone directories with the "Smiths" because they are the most common. There would lie chaos! (Sarah777 23:24, 13 May 2007 (UTC))

Wikipedia:Manual of Style (disambiguation pages)#Order of entries asks us to "in most cases, place the items in order of usage, with the most-used meanings appearing at the top and less common meanings below." It isn't correct procedure to redirect Enfield to Enfield (disambiguation); either the disambiguation page should be at Enfield, or that name should redirect to the primary use of the term. The Enfield in London has over 280,000 people, which is by far the largest of all the Enfields, and almost all of the Wikilinks to the page are meant to link to it. This is grounds for a Wikipedia:Disambiguation#Primary topic link to the London location from Enfield - otherwise, editors have to go through and fix all the links to "Enfield", one by one. The “Enfield” redirects here. For other uses, see Enfield (disambiguation) text at the top of Enfield Town takes care of any problems with that setup. This was recently addressed, as well, at Wikipedia:Requested moves: see this edit. Does this address your concerns? Dekimasu 00:55, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Not really. There are about 450 Wiki links to Enfield, New Hampshire compared to 230 to Enfield in London. Google returns roughly the same number of hits for both (1.2 v 1.3 million) and the Enfield Gun gets a half as many as either. Also, a suburban area within a city is not as notable as a separate town by the same name. So I think there is no primary "Enfield" - if you type in Enfield you should get straight to the disambiguation page as 80% of queries will be for pages other than the London Enfield. (Sarah777 01:47, 14 May 2007 (UTC))

I wasn't referring to the links to the unambiguous titles. I was referring to the number of links to the ambiguous title (Enfield) that are meant to direct the user to a certain page. But as far as that goes, almost all of the links to "Enfield, New Hampshire" are the result of its inclusion in Template:New Hampshire. Also, I think you may have forgotten to include quotation marks in your Google test. A search for "Enfield, New Hampshire" gives 34K hits; "Enfield, London" gets 106K, and "Enfield Town" gets 140K (there's another 19K for "Enfield, England"). "Enfield Gun" gets around 700 Google hits. Dekimasuよ! 02:05, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Yeah well, the REAL Enfield, (Meath) gets FIVE HUNDRED hits. Good point on the redirect though - I hadn't noticed someone had zapped the article; I thought they'd just messed with the redirect. So I made a completely useless fix! Regards (Sarah777 08:09, 18 May 2007 (UTC))

"Enfield Gun" may only get 700 hits, but "Enfield rifle" gets 69K and "Lee Enfield" 221K. Sorry to butt in. Ben W Bell talk 08:25, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Administrator

Congratulations, you are now an administrator - with unanimous support! If you haven't already, now is the time look through the Wikipedia:Administrators' how-to guide and Wikipedia:Administrators' reading list. If you have any questions, feel free to ask me, or at the Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard. Warofdreams talk 16:54, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Commiserations, you are now a janitor! But you do get to zap articles and block and generally annoy people. You can practice by blocking me, if you like: I need to get some real [paying] work done today. Hm, so that wouldn't be annoying. Oh well, block me some other day too and score an extra 10 points for annoyance. -- Hoary 00:02, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Niwa

Thanks; I put it up for DRV, but if that fails, I will rewrite. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 15:33, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Britain

Would you please look at this version of the Britain dab page? I thought it was better, but didn't want to argue when it was (mostly) reverted. I can see you do a lot of work on dab pages, so I thought I'd ask.

Congratulations on becoming an Administrator. --Steven J. Anderson 01:24, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Sorry I didn't get back to you earlier. Yes, I think it would be a good thing to have some of that information back on the page. It's very helpful for disambiguation pages to have one blue link per line, so I still think that the links to the dates and other phrases should be removed, but other uses of Britain would be great to have on the page. I'll support those sorts of changes if you'd like to readd them. And thanks for the note... Dekimasuよ! 08:35, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations on your adminship

Dekimasu,

Well done on being sysopped. I know you'll do a good job. I have seen much of your work on Japan-related articles. I have quite an interest in Japan myself, and have been there twice. - Richard Cavell 13:31, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Thriller

I put it up for WP:RM last night. What will happen about that as well as the people i've informed? Simply south 09:07, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Sorry that I forgot to officially close the discussion when I found the listing at WP:RM. The move I made was the one you requested, so I hope you'll be happy with it. I wouldn't have performed the move myself if I thought that it was controversial, so I hope that the other people you've informed will agree with us as well. Does that sound all right? Dekimasuよ! 09:12, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Possibly. One main reason i was putting it up for WP:RM was that the redirect direction itself seemed controversial. Simply south 09:16, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

That's usually an indication that there isn't a primary topic for the title. When I ran across it, the plain title had been pointing at the dab page for over three months without a change, so I don't think there will be any objections. Dekimasuよ! 09:18, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

OK. What should happen about the other people i've informed? Simply south 09:20, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

It's not really necessary for them to do anything, but if there are serious objections to the change, I can revert my move, against my better judgment. Dekimasuよ! 09:32, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Pu-erh

(3 revisions restored: move was reverted, but history wasn't restored):

• I was going to do this a few seconds after you did! Anthony Appleyard 06:36, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Need your expert opinion on disambiguation

Hello. I notice you have done some work with disambiguation pages. There is a discussion on Talk:ALF_(disambiguation)#And_again that could benefit from your expert advice. Thank you. —Viriditas | Talk 08:26, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

I've left some advice, although I'm not sure I can be called an expert. I hope that it will be helpful. For what it's worth, if there hadn't been previous discussion on the topic, I would have moved the dab to the plain title. Dekimasuよ! 08:57, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Very helpful. Please keep the page on your watchlist. I will attempt to follow your directions for a RM. —Viriditas | Talk 09:39, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

User:Sparkzilla COI

Hi, I posted about User:Sparkzilla and his undeclared CoI over at the CoI noticeboard [1]. Unfortunately, there hasn't been that much response from the admin's (except fro MangoJuice), so I was hoping maybe you could take a look at it. Heatedissuepuppet 12:19, 22 May 2007 (UTC)