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*'''Overturn''' The implication of the closure is that the closer considers the material to be valid, in which case it belongs in wikipedia. In any case, there was no consensus to delete. [[User:Aviara|Aviara]] 01:00, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
*'''Overturn''' The implication of the closure is that the closer considers the material to be valid, in which case it belongs in wikipedia. In any case, there was no consensus to delete. [[User:Aviara|Aviara]] 01:00, 4 July 2007 (UTC)


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*'''Overturn''' Prejudice decided the outcome, when it should be consensus. <b><font color="teal">[[User:DaGizza|Gizza]]</font></b>''<sup><font color="teal">[[User_talk:DaGizza|Discuss]]</font></sup>'' <sup><b><font color="teal">[[Special:Contributions/DaGizza|&#169;]]</font></b></sup> 01:21, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
*'''Overturn''' Prejudice decided the outcome, when it should be consensus. <b><font color="teal">[[User:DaGizza|Gizza]]</font></b>''<sup><font color="teal">[[User_talk:DaGizza|Discuss]]</font></sup>'' <sup><b><font color="teal">[[Special:Contributions/DaGizza|&#169;]]</font></b></sup> 01:21, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
*'''Speedy Overturn''' the latest AfD was closed as no consensus. [[User:Grue|<font style="background: black" face="Courier" color="#FFFFFF">'''&nbsp;Grue&nbsp;'''</font>]] 21:16, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
*'''Speedy Overturn''' the latest AfD was closed as no consensus. [[User:Grue|<font style="background: black" face="Courier" color="#FFFFFF">'''&nbsp;Grue&nbsp;'''</font>]] 21:16, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

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Revision as of 17:08, 6 July 2007

iLoser (closed)

List of Pentax K mount lenses (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (restore|cache|AfD)

I'm not very satisfied with the discussion. 3 people say "listcruft", 2 people say "useful", all of which are apparently invalid reasons. Some people wanted it to be merged back into Pentax K mount, but the closing admin says that article is too long already. End result: deletion with misgivings. Could we possibly relist and have a slightly more in depth discussion about what to do with it? The notion of dismissing any argument of "usefulness" is just dumb. Let's find a real reason to either delete or keep it. Stevage 13:52, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Have you asked the deleting admin to consider reversing themselves and relisting the discussion? Useful isn't a valid reason to keep by the way but I agree the consensus to delete wasn't outstandingly obvious. Spartaz Humbug! 18:04, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yup, crap discussion. But a valid result. The Pentax K mount is notable, but a list of lenses with Pentax K mount is canonical fancruft: of interst only to a very small number of people who probably knew it already. Guy (Help!) 22:44, 2 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Overturn The implication of the closure is that the closer considers the material to be valid, in which case it belongs in wikipedia. In any case, there was no consensus to delete. Aviara 01:00, 4 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

27 Club (closed)

Brand (magazine) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (restore|cache|AfD)

Highly notable magazine. It's the oldest continously published anarchist magazine (since 1898) and the second oldest in the world. Have ha several notable people writing for it like Gustav Hedenvind-Eriksson, Hinke Bergegren, Ivan Oljelund, Moa Martinson (as Helga Johansson), Harry Martinson, C.J. Björklund, Carl-Emil Englund, Erik Asklund, Eyvind Johnson, Jan Fridegård, Ivar Lo Johansson, Artur Lundkvist, Vilhelm Moberg, Albert Jensen, Elise Ottesen-Jensen, Nils Ferlin, Helmer Grundström and Eva X Moberg Liftarn 06:41, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • The problem is, the article didn't say of of that -- at least not in the version that was deleted. This was apparently a 2-in-one article: a single article about two different subjects with the same name. In this case, there appear to have been two quite different magazines titled "Brand": one was the anarchist magazine described above, and one a communications magazine of apparently dubious notability (or at least with very few indications of notability in the article). This page had two separate articles about these two magazines. This style used to be recommended, to avoid the need for disambiguation. I created one myself once (about 5 different early middle ages queens who all had the same name). They are no longer encouraged, i believe. To return to this article, some editor cut out most of the content on the anarchist magazine a few revisions before it was tagged foe speedy deletion, and what was left was a rather spammy stub about the other "Brand". Overturn and revert to a version that includes the full info on the anarchist magazine. Then consider splitting. This should be a lesson to admins: remember to check earlier versions, particularly when A7 is involved. Same applies to copyvios -- revert to a clean version, if there is one -- and then possibly use selective deletion. DES (talk) 07:09, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Overturn and fix Haddiscoe 00:03, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Overturn and restore Mistaken deletion of an article about a clearly notable subject. Wimstead 14:07, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]