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(from Kskk2)

merci keh baneh mano var dashdeeh. Shomah adameh khoobi hasteen. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kskk2 (talk • contribs)

• Oh my Farsi is very terrible! I'll try to answer you as best I can. I am assuming you are thanking me for the unautoblock, khahesh mikonam! And you referred to something about "hand" (dashdeeh or daste is hand correct?) and my parents always say the expression "do not hurt your hands" in Persian, which I say moshkeli nist. And to answer your final question, man khoobam haily mamnoon.¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 04:43, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

lol, I was not talking about your hand. I said thank you for the unautoblock, you are a good person! Btw the persian expression is "I hope your hands don't hurt" translated literally which means thank you very much. So you live in Cali, huh? I didn't know there were any Iranians in California!! jk they're tons. Anyway, nice talking to you and I'll let you know if I get blocked again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kskk2 (talk • contribs)

• I hate when I fudge up my Persian :P...oh how the elders ridicule me! Ah well...¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 04:52, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Anti me

OK...so I feel I just broke into a new realm of existence! Wow! Thanks for pointing it out, PPG! --Kukini ^{hablame aqui} 05:09, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Hello!

I just saw you were back! One of the AIV bots said your name! Good to see you again! I've been kind of scarce myself (I'm out of country right now), but I still keep an eye on my watchlist. Anyway, hope all is well for you! Heimstern Läufer (talk) 05:37, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Lopez4life

Good move on Lopez4life Ryan4314 06:06, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Welcome back!

Welcome back! Glad to see you've returned.--Chaser - T 06:06, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Talk pages

Or at least a bunch of flowers.  :) NawlinWiki 19:13, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

CSD

Responded on my talk page. Acalamari 20:21, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

I guess that was it? There's been nothing for a few minutes. Acalamari 20:28, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Sorry I was late though; I only deleted four pages. I would have responded sooner and would probably have got more pages deleted, but unfortunately, I was caught up with something in real life. :) I've never cleaned up a bot's work before (not with the administrator tools anyway), so that was my first time with that. Acalamari 20:33, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

At any rate, however, it is so nice to see you back. It's great to see a friendly smile and a green "online" where you "status" indicator is. :) Acalamari 20:39, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

• Finally, I thought you may be interested to know that at my talk page, another user has thanked you for your work in deleting those pages. Secondly, I thought you may want to know about another addition for your spoofer list. :) Acalamari 20:54, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Paris Hilton

Oh, Persian Poet Girl, I've been editing Wikipedia for over a year, and I have 1000s of edits, and 3 barnstars to my credit. But whats an online encyclopedia for if you can't have a little fun now and then? Havn't you ever done anything wild like redirect Paris Hilton's link or steal a cupcake from your commanding officer in Vietnam? I promise I won't do it anymore. For now.--Dudeman5685 21:43, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

But wikipedia IS real life!--Dudeman5685 16:17, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank a lot today for helping me deal with the raging psycho de jour. I'm waiting with rapt anticipation for sockpuppet number three. :) Trusilver 22:18, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

• No problem! I'm searching for the original IP to increase the duration of that block. Unfortunately the IP he is editing from is a college. He is going to affect some legitimate users because of that.¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 22:19, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

• I almost am touched. I thought it was only DerHexer that got the long term recurring vandals. Trusilver 22:22, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

• I'm still learning the mechanics of how blocks affect the unintended. Is it correct that an established username will be able to edit from an IP that has been blocked for an anon vandal's actions? Trusilver 22:34, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Fortunately the kind of block I instated does allow established users to edit. However, the IP will be unable to create a new account or edit anonymously. It creates some hassle if the school or library have not created Wikipedia accounts yet.¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 22:36, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

thanks

Thanks for fixing the aspersion regarding my numeracy, Jimfbleak 06:17, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

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What was it I vandalised? I removed something I have removed many times because it was OR and the person who added it has been blocked many times and banned, then changed IP more than once since to continue adding this OR. Once again on the Human Height article the skin whiteners affecting growth has been added as it has on whiteners affecting intelliegence on race and IQ. Also I am confused to what was reverted and undid in this discussion.Gooogen 15:23, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Babel box?

I suggest you to create a Babel box for yourself, so that we know what language do you speak. Oh yeah, since you're half Persian, do you speak Persian? --Edmund the King of the Woods! 17:18, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Persian (Farsi) Wikipedia?

Since you're half Persian, do you have an account in the Persian Wikipedia? --Edmund the King of the Woods! 17:19, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

• I am still hesitant to create an account on the Persian Wikipedia because my Farsi is not only very minimal but I don't even have one character of the Farsi alphabet down. Also as far as boxes, I think that it would be a bit redundant if I only place one box due to the only language I can speak confidently enough is English :P...¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 18:44, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Your efforts on Jak 3

Thank you for your work to combat vandalism on the Jak 3 article. I notice that a similar IP address responsible for those two edits has done this on this same article, even the same act of vandalism. Is this an issue that demands a block yet?

By the way, I notice that you are one of the gods of Wikipedia. If you ever have a wish, let me know and I will obey if I can. Larrythefunkyferret 06:56, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

User:Psycho Samurai

Hi there; this user, whom you just blocked for a week, decided to post threatening and offensive messages, aimed at you, on his userpage. I have accordingly protected this userpage for the duration of your block, with a warning suggesting that future good behaviour would be a smart idea. Hope I am not treading on your toes here. --Anthony.bradbury^"talk" 21:43, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

• My he's steamed at the moment! No worries, you're not treading on my toes at all! I tend to ignore or revert that venting. For now its better off letting him calm down and just avoid the tantrum he's throwing.¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 21:46, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
• That same user was posting on my talk page and Natalie Erin's yesterday for my semi-protection of the Wal-Mart article. Psysco Samurai and their IP implied that I had abused my abilities by locking the page from IP editing due to a content dispite, when in fact all I had done was semi-protect the page due to IP vandalism (a semi-protection that Natalie Erin reviewed). Acalamari 21:50, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

It seemed to me that making the point that we can prevent him even from editing his own userpage just might be an educational experience for him. Or it might not, of course. But we always try to convert vandals into useful editors, do we not? --Anthony.bradbury^"talk" 21:52, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

That's why I instated a week long block rather than an indef. Seems he's just emotional at the moment. But if he continues the way he's going, then he's going to find himself facing a pretty ice cold indef block.¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 21:55, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes. I have learned since acquiring the tools that there is a certain amount of variety of opinion as to how long blocks are applied. My policy with this guy would, I think to do a 3 month block on next offence, and indeblock thereafter. You would go straight to indefblock, would you? I ask only for educational purposes. --Anthony.bradbury^"talk" 21:59, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

That proposal does not hurt either but the severity of the threats he makes are not to be taken lightly (such as saying you better run). If he repeats a threat like that I usually would indef block. Threats that imply bodily harm are never good.¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 22:03, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Fair comment. As I said, I was asking for personal educational purposes, not for argumentative ones. --Anthony.bradbury^"talk" 22:05, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

(Sorry to butt in) A 3-month block is usually equivalent to an indef. They're going to sock in either case. —Wknight94 (talk) 22:09, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Then we'll just have to keep our eyes peeled for a sock-friend or two. Hopefully he will decide against that and not take it that far. Optimism never hurts.¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 22:11, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Hey... looks like you're out... but for when you get back, looking at the conversation you guys had, do you think this diff, along with the other things he's done over the past two days, would constitute a re-block? I'm not sure, to be honest. Gscshoyru 02:08, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Never mind. It's been taken care of. Gscshoyru 02:33, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Re: IP Stalker

User:Potterator Lara♥Love 18:02, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Liverpool F.C. (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Thanks for helping out with the problem - is it on a time limit? Chaza 93 18:54, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

OK well thanks for your help on the matter Chaza 93 18:56, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

OK so now the IP's are sorted - but i forgot that some users are adding the unhelpful content to the page - should i put {{Chaza93/Vandal}} to their talk page or ask for a Full Protect (don't do this yet i want to still be able to edit the article) Chaza 93 20:05, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

I suggest placing the warning, going for a full protect is a bit much at the moment.¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 20:06, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

OK thanks once again for your feedback on the situation Chaza 93 20:10, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

User:Potterator

...is asking for unblock at WP:RFU. I presume that he is the same user as the IP whose edits you redacted from LaraLove's talk page, which is why he was blocked? ELIMINATORJR 19:23, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Responded on your talk page.¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 19:25, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

It didn't work. He's back on another IP that's almost exactly the same as the previous one to the registered account. He's being antagonizing on my talk page. Lara♥Love 03:14, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

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Thanks for the reverts

I tend to let things be, and figure people know I appreciate the assistance, but today's vandalism at my talk page got to be a bit above and beyond the norm. ;) Thanks for helping out! – Luna Santin (talk) 01:20, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for indef blocking my doppelganger account. NHRHS2010 ^Talk 01:59, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Welcome back!!!

For my befitting mortification, I hereby apologize for not having noticed any sooner that you were back. I must be getting rusty. Still, welcome back PPG!! We all missed you deeply. :-) Best regards, Húsönd 03:03, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

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Fdfdfdfdfd

Whose sock is he? Noticed in your block summary that you described him as a sock of an already-banned editor. Blueboy96 20:40, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

• I remember seeing the edits of a blocked editor who posted the same rant about "YOU SHALL NOT HOLD DOWN THE RIGHTS OF THE VANDALIZERS!!!!" on every page he vandalized...I can't seem to locate those edits again but this guy has been around before.¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 20:43, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Seconded. I remember this guy... from somewhere. Gscshoyru 20:47, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

• Oddly enough I finally located one of the original accounts by looking at the latest vandalizers of your userpage. Here's the account: User:I Am Zezima.¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 21:22, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

You found it how? rofl Gscshoyru 21:26, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

• I had a feeling a vandal like that might be attracted to a active vandal fighter's page. When you said he seems familiar I scanned the reverts you made. I then randomly opened the history of your userpage and spotted a diff with that familiar rallying cry.¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 21:29, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

That wasn't a question... more of an incredulous statement, trying to convey the fact that I found that pretty funny... but thanks anyways. :) Gscshoyru 21:31, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Re. Block Log of 63.164.145.198

Hey PPG. I had noticed the log and the obviously recurring vandalism (had even been blocked indef). I had decided to block just 48 hours nonetheless because some of this IP's edits today had been valid contributions. Anyway, on second thought, I've followed your advice and extended the block to 6 months. Any users from this IP willing to contribute productively are always welcome to register. Best regards, Húsönd 23:35, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up, I did forget. :-) Keep up your always excellent work. Best regards, Húsönd 23:41, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Adani

Good call on blocking this one. I had just seen the AIV entry and was going to add my two cents, but you beat me to it. GlassCobra 23:48, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Your message

Thank you for your words. I think it has been rammed home to me this past week that the majority of the human race simply does not make judgements on considered analysis of the evidence, trusting instead their first impression of the situation and the malicious or equally hasty judgement of others. I hasten to add that I am not just thinking of my RfA - I've been reading and watching Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens all week. I find an interesting parellel between people who refuse pointblank to believe evolution even when the facts are right there and the people who refuse to believe that I am not incivil, even when I pointed out that the diffs they dug up constituted 0.0004% of my contributing history. I think it said more about them that they would choose to ignore that statistic and the glowing testimonies from people who have worked with me than it did about my civility or possible lack thereof. But hey, what can you do? When people decide on a narrative, you're stuck with it. Look at poor Profumo. Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 23:52, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

• Parallels are eerie things are they not? I hardly thought any of the people in that debate to be incivil, more like brutally straightforward and passionate about their stances. I'm glad that at least debates/times like that won't come by again for a long time (hopefully).¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 23:58, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Deletion of abeldent

You really do not leave much time for improvement. I have created open dental wiki article and thought that having other dental Practice Management Software represented in wiki would be good. So I started abeldent first draft was deleted before I could even get started getting the details. Then I created it again with just a little more info and now that has been deleted. I understand advertisements on wiki are bad but if no time is allowed for improvements then how is anything going to get better. I have never used this product so it is going to take a little more time to get all the information. I was hoping that I could get some help from others that know the software to improve the article. The only reason I started it was it happens to be on the top of the list from the ada website for PMS

I started Fluoride therapy the first draft was rough but over time and with others help it was improved a lot. I was hoping this would happen with abeldent I guess not.

You might as well delete Comparison of Dental Practice Management Software, it is not filled out very much I personally do not know all that information, yet. That way no one can contribute to it.

As far as being blatant advertisement you might as well delete all the dental Practice Management Software articles I have created. They must be ads right. open dental Dentrix, PracticeWorks, SoftDent, Eaglesoft. I chose these because they are software produces that I have heard of, again never used them knowledge on them is limited. If nothing else please place ad warning on then. I would do it but you may delete my account.

I would think a week of time should be given to improve an article before deletion. Not just an hour or less. Thanks for reading my rant.

User :Gdbanks

• Responded on your talk page.¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 17:46, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

i still think a reasonable working time for creating an article is not too much to ask for. i "created" the article twice. both times while i was still working on it. during the article creation i like to see how it is looking and hit the show preview button but sometimes may hit the save button. between the save and collecting info to place in the article, it is deleted. you wrote

"please do not ... or recreate an article when you have been notified numerous times not to do so." 

i have not been told, not to recreate an article tell now. a reasonable creation would be nice, say instead of deleting it before improvements can be made place in a quarantine for a limited time. in writing this message i have had to leave, do other things for work. a reasonable working time is all i ask

User:Gdbanks

• Responded on your talk page again.¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 22:12, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

WP:CVU status

The Wikipedia:Counter-Vandalism Unit project is under consideration to be moved to {{inactive}} and/or {{historical}} status. Another proposal is to delete or redirect the project. You have been identified as a project member and your input as to this matter would be welcomed at WT:CVU#Inactive.3F and at the deletion debate. Thank you! Delivered on behalf of xaosflux 16:37, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Scipio

I also replied on ANI! Cheers, Pascal.Tesson 20:44, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

I made a short summary of the personal attacks, deletions, falsifications and other violations commited by him during the last few days at ANI. PS, your user page is the nicest I've seen this far :) Cheers! JdeJ 21:19, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

• Thanks for the compliment!¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 22:12, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

My opinion

Just a quick word to say that I'm more than glad to see your signature and your contributions starting to creep back all over this place - you (unknowingly) inspired me to keep plugging away here. Keep fighting the "fight", you should know that you have dozens of real allies here. Once more, welcome back. The Rambling Man 22:56, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

• Those words mean alot coming from you Rambling Man :)...¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 22:57, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

• Nothing more to say. Stick with us, we'll definitely stick with you! The Rambling Man 23:07, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Hdayejr

Oh, I'm quite aware of it. He's been gloating about how he's going to get me banned for the last half hour or so. Thank you for the alert anyway, though. -TPIRFanSteve 00:11, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the warning

With the legendary PPG knowing about it, I'm not worried about these bizarre charges. I'm a pretty public figure on the Web, so I'm a poor choice to impersonate. (Or is this Steve supposed to be the sockpuppet I've been secretly running for years?) It would be more amusing if the accuser wasn't so nasty about it. --Orange Mike 00:54, 11 August 2007 (UTC) (orangemike@livejournal, etc.)

Now he's invoking the 3RR because I undid his deletion of a posting to his talk page; according to his summary, this constitutes "vandalism"! I anticipate a request for block at any moment. --Orange Mike 02:13, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Just checked my e-mail, only to find this billet-doux from you-know-who: look dipcrap....vandalize my page again and you'll have some serious hell to pay!

I'll wipe you up with the floor, keep it up BOY!!!!!!!

How could people possibly want to leave Wikipedia? --Orange Mike 02:28, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

As long as we're posting e-mails, lemme describe how this whole thing started.

Last summer, I was being harrassed on here by someone who was eventually blocked when his account was discovered to be a sockpuppet. It wasn't Hdayejr, but at the time, I obviously didn't know that. Actually, I didn't know if he even used Wikipedia, but given that I've been his least favorite person in the world since about November of 2000 and he as such seemed like a likely culprit, I asked an admin if a Checkuser could be run to find out if it was one of the IPs he's known for using. Obviously, the request was declined, but Hdayejr's real name remained posted, because I had no reason to think it would be a problem.

Two months ago, on June 7, I received the following e-mail from Hdayejr:

You continue to harass me, and I haven't even said a word about you in years. But your immaturity hasn't stopped...you had the balls to mention me on Wikipedia about vandalizing? Hell I don't even go on that site much anyhow...but you have a lot of nerve telling people to trace it back to the library.

Dolt, I use my own computer, not theirs. Next time you talk another word(AND I MEAN ONE WORD ABOUT ME)..I'll post all your flaming from Invision, Golden Road, and ATGS online everywhere for all to see.

DON'T FUCK WITH ME!

Three weeks later, this edit was made in the discussion about last summer's harrassment, and it's just been downhill ever since. -TPIRFanSteve 17:12, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Brevard County Environment

Please undelete my article forked from Brevard County as per discussion at User talk:Student7#August 2007. Thanks. Student7 01:22, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

• Took care of it. Feel free to edit away!¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 03:36, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Difference of opinion

When working AIV you wrote that there was no cause to block User:Majin Xezeveir at this time. You might want to know that I indefblocked him! In reviewing his contributions I found nothing but vandalism and nonsense, including creation of an obvious WP:HOAX article, with no constructive edits that I could see. Please let me know if you think I've gone too far. Cheers - Raymond Arritt 19:10, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

• I did not look closely enough at the contributions. I thought he had only created one hoax article. I didn't see the amount of hoax information he was introducing. My apologies.¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 19:12, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

User:149.4.106.130 ban heads up

Good day! I noted you banned User:149.4.106.130, who is marked as a suspected sockpuppet of User:Ron liebman. Also noted as suspected sockpuppets are User:Baseball Gurus and User:Alex cheung.

Alex cheung, Baseball Gurus, and the IP users were attempting to make the same revisions on Hideki Matsui (sample diff:[1]), Eddie Cicotte (sample diff:[2]), and Major League Baseball titles leaders (sample diff:[3]).

So, it seems pretty obvious that all three accounts were trying to push incorrect facts on the same articles. You blocked the IP, all edits stopped... pretty suspicious, huh? :)

I wasn't sure if you noticed the edits from all three accounts together, and as the blocking admin of the IP, I just wanted to give you a heads up in case you didn't notice. Thanks for the vandal block! -- Irixman ^{(t) (m)} 20:12, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

• Thanks I'll take care of that.¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 00:00, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

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Edits by 60.49.35.144 - good job!

I caught the one you missed because the affected page was on my watchlist.  ;) BrokenSphere^{Msg me} 17:09, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

• No problem, and thanks for your help as well :)...¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 17:11, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

This edit

Thank you for reverting my userpage. I really appreciate it. Bushcarrot ^Talk _{Please Sign!} 17:21, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

A dog is a dog.

If you want to block me from editing, then do so. It seems that those who use wikipedia as a propaganda tool are more welcome than those who would rather use it for legitimate purposes. I will offer no apologies for my behavior as the individuals in question do not deserve it. --Khampalak 19:45, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Those who use Wikipedia for propaganda are rarely tolerated and will be dealt with appropriately. It is not your place to call any editor here a "dog." These are Wikipedia's policies, if you choose not to follow them then you would unfortunately be blocked. All I am asking is that you be civil toward your fellow editor despite their actions being wrong or right.¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 19:49, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes I understand that. I have tried. But users such as Beh-nam and Anoshirawan have been doing this for a very very long time, and it seems to have gone on unchecked. I guess this is one of the rare occasions where propagandists and character assassins are tolerated. I suggest you read the discussion pages on various Afghanistan related articles. These individuals dismiss all attempts at reaching a consensus, even when there are many more editors making their case against them. You know, I'd rather not waste any more of my time explaining the situation. It will make absolutely no difference.

--Khampalak 19:59, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

I understand that things seem to have gone sour somewhere in the middle of all these disputes but I still do not see either party being at fault here. For now I'd avoid confrontations with the editors whom you are disagreeing with. Ultimately if these issues become more and more serious you can take some of the steps in the dispute resolution process.¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 20:07, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

No offense, but when the majority of editors on those articles are complaining about bizarre POV edits backed by ambiguous, unreliable/unverifiable sources and are also having their own edits indiscriminately reverted, then is a problem. Dispute resolution? I'm sure if you were to follow these developments you'd realize that this does not work. We've requested RFCs on certain articles and have gotten nowhere. We have provided source after source that invalidates the questionable material, yet that gets us nowhere. We have submitted 3RR complaints on these users, but those have been denied for the most part. So please explain how Wikipedia can enforce its policies yet allow those users to continue doing what they are doing? I'm sorry, but I have no interest in contributing to those articles anymore. They have been hijacked by propagandists. In my opinion, those who would abuse a resource such as this are not deserving of civility or respect. --Khampalak 20:16, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

If you are finding the RfC's going no where then you might want to bump up to a request for mediation. The reason why your 3rr was dismissed was because the user you were reporting did not exceed the 3 revert limit. Right now I would suggest taking avenues that strictly focus on your content dispute rather than putting yourself in jeopardy of being blocked for personal attacks. As much as you feel that those who use Wikipedia for propaganda deserve no civility, there is absolutely no way this would be allowed. The civility policy is firm on Wikipedia and no matter what users we encounter whether vandal, editor, administrator, etc. all must be treated with civility.¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 20:27, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

In that case I bid you farewell. I don't think you realize that editing these articles has basically become an impossibility for those who care enough to contribute accurate information as opposed to politically motivated garbage. I implore you to deal with these individuals for a short while and tell me if RFC, Request for Mediation, or civility for that matter will have any effect. I'm finished. Good day. --Khampalak 20:31, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

And the user did have 5 consecutive reverts in the span of a few hours. Clearly he was in violation. --Khampalak 20:33, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

You have ignored a message left by Beh-nam on my talk page as well. It should offer a tiny bit of insight into his motivations for editing on Wikipedia.

I think you could use some of your own advice and stop trying to revise history. Everyone who lived in Afghanistan knows that Zahir Shah just like his father was an ethno-fascist. Just because you are from his family doesn't mean you need to cover this up. Regardless, its sourced right there and as long as that source is there that line cannot be removed. --Behnam 19:59, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

I suppose you consider his bringing a person's family into the discussion a permissible act. --Khampalak 20:50, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

As I've said that does not work. Please disable my account as I have no use for it. Thank you. --Khampalak 20:54, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

That's impressive...there is an enforced policy dealing with self-blocks and wikiholics, but not for blatant propagandists and vandals. I am speechless. --Khampalak 21:03, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

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For Pete's sake

I created a page for the film "For Pete's sake" on August 14, 2007. You deleted it saying it was copyright violation. I still don't understand your reasons for deleting the entire article. If there is a way, you could have salvaged some part of the article, that would have been better.

Sorry but according to Wikipedia's copyright policies we cannot keep articles which contain copyrighted material. A link was picked up and the article contained duplicate information from that url. If you wish to recreate the article please do so in your own words. Thank you.¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 21:13, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Blocking people and being arrogant

Saddam Hussein jailed people then his courts always reaffirmed this. This is bad that you refuse to unblock Rulechecker.

Rulechecker did not support socks. He is against disruptive socks. The only thing he said was that this was an unnecessary checkuser request. After all, the checkuser doesn't say "this sock is editing from IP 123.456.789.01." The checkuser spends a lot of time then says "Confirmed".Well, we already know this person is a sock. The sock has been blocked.

It is very uncivil to block Rulechecker. Rulechecker simply points out logic. If Rulechecker edited under his/her real name, ChrisO would have permanently blocked for life. How would you like to be blocked for life?

If you edit on Iran, Israel, Shatt-al-Arab (Arvand Rud) or others and were not an admin, there's a likely chance that you could be blocked for life if someone didn't like your edit. You shouldn't be like that.

You can right a wrong. Just unblock Rulechecker. Rulechecker is a kind of person that helps out others, like lessen the load of checkusers. A troll would be defending socks. Rulechecker2 22:47, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

• Blocked by Chris as being an obvious block-evading sock - Alison ☺ 23:14, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Scipio3000

Could you please explain ownership to him? I've requested this to other people, but gotten no response. To give two examples of his claim of ownership, he has a section on his talk page entitled 'On my article, Sicily' [4]. Also, when I actually edited 'his' article, he responded with 'Who are you to tamper with =what 3 Sicilian ancestors decided on?' [5] [6]. This claim of Scipio3000 his views being fully backed by the other two Sicilians, but a check of page histories show that they have had difficulties with him as well [7] [8]. Could you please also explain copyright violation to him, he reverted twice after I removed his cut-n-paste from another site [9]. Edward321 01:42, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

• I do not think that would be the right course of action this moment. After leaving a message like that, we should not further antagonize him when he has shown he is willing to edit civilly in the future. Also, several users tried to explain to him about the copyright issue as well as the ownership policy. By now, hopefully he has realized this after posting that message because it is really too much to have multiple people come in and re-explain over and over. I really commend El C and JodyB for their patience in the situation. I think he's on good terms at the moment and we shouldn't have much to worry about for now.¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 01:48, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

I think you are rather optimistic, since Scipio3000 has made similar conciliatory statements before the latest incidents. Still, I greatly appreciate your input and involvement. I hope that you are correct. Edward321 01:57, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

It appears JodyB has already done this [10], so please ignore my request for now as it would likely come across a piling on, which I do not wish. Edward321 02:12, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for taking care of Scipio3000's block reduction. Unfortunately it looks like it will not be lasting long. His behavior hasn't changed, despite the fact he claims to be here to contribute constructively, and I see another block in his future. Regardless, thanks for your help. - auburnpilot talk 04:51, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

I think AuburnPilot is probably correct. However it may be that you can talk to him and encourage better behavior. He's pretty well promised to get back at Edward321 once he gets off of this block. See here [11]. Thanks --JodyB _{yak, yak, yak} 14:41, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

I think I going to have to protect the page. He's attacking everybody, baiting and trolling. I'm sure he's going to send me a ton of emails but that's ok. He's got to change or he's gone. It might force a break on him which would be good for him. I'll make sure the protection ends at the time his block ends. --JodyB _{yak, yak, yak} 18:49, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

YAY

i lyke persia too! yoo are soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo goooolebel!

• And yet it only cost me two seconds...sorry but optimism works for me. Enjoy being reblocked.¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 18:17, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Cat

YOUR CAT IS SOOOO CUTE!! (not as cute as MY cats of course, but still very cute) ^DAVID _CAT 19:03, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

MY CATS ARE THE CUTEST IN THE WORLD EVER^DAVID _CAT 19:59, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

MLK

Thanks, PPG; seems like I'm averaging a half-dozen reverts on this article alone every day I wiki. --Orange Mike 19:05, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

• No problem.¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 19:06, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

me

im not vandalizing at all.

Im replacing tony blair with the current priminister of britain, gordon brown. I replaced the basque with a more typical looking basque.

Currently i have a feeling that this article may have been discretly given a nordicist twist with regards to the photos chosen.

Most british and irish people have dark brown hair, the next most common colour after that is brown hair. around 30% of british people have dark eyes and around 25% have mixed eyes with only about 45% having light eyes.

Instead of having a stereotypical light haired and light eyed brit like tony blair (who is no longer priminister), why not use current priminister gordon brown as he has dark hair and dark eyes. John f kennedy has light brown hair with blue eyes, so having tony blair aswell gives the impression that all indigenous brits or most of them have light hair wiht light eyes, but only a minority of indigenous brits posses those features.

• Don't worry about that warning...see your talk page.¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 19:12, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

cheers, i suggest we do a similar thing with regards to the 2 german people as most germans dont have light brown or blonde hair.

The 24 hour block that you placed on my account yesterday

The 24 hour block that you placed on my account yesterday for personal attacks has just expired, and while I must say that I was not happy about the block, I harbor no hard feelings towards you. If you check my previous contributions, you can see that I have been a productive editor on Wikipedia. I'd just like to let you know that while I was guilty of personal attacks against JRSP and CyberGhostface, I was goaded into doing so by these two individuals. In order to avoid future blocks, I promise not to engage in anymore personal attacks, and if I am goaded by trolls such as these two individuals, I will simply ignore them.

JRSP was repeatedly reverting a comment which I made concerning statements made in the Hugo Chavez article which I found to be biased. My issue with CyberGhostface concerns his nastiness and uncivility. He is far too possessive of articles which he has created, and he becomes very angry when edits are made to such articles. After multiple revisions of LEGITIMATE edits which I made to "his" articles, I told him to leave me alone. He proceeded to foul my discussion page with unwanted and unsolicited comments. When I objected to this, he goaded me into calling him a profanity.

While I respect your role as a Wikipedia Administrator, I'd like to respectfully request that in the future, you exercise better discretion when blocking a user based on one-sided information. Thank you for your understanding! 24.168.46.238 19:45, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

• Thank you for your civil approach. Unfortunately there was no way to exercise discretion because at the time you were severely violating our WP:CIVIL policies. But I can understand there are always two sides to every story. Just try to be respectful and polite toward your fellow editor the next time you run into conflict or ignore them when it is hard to do so.¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 19:50, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Not a battleground?

Please tell the users that I mentioned earlier. It is obvious from their actions that Wikipedia is just another front for the misinformation war they are waging on various information outlets online. By not acting against this, you are a party to it. --Khampalak 20:40, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

I will blank out my entire user page. I should also say that your actions will have absolutely no effect on the users in question. Consensus has been reached by the majority of concerned editors, time and time again. But this has always been ignored. As soon as the protection expires, it will be business as usual on this and other articles. --Khampalak 20:50, 15 August 2007 (UTC)--Khampalak 20:48, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Your welcome. By "business as usual" though, I did mean the vandalism will continue. As I've said, edits that I and other users make will keep getting reverted. So unfortunately I cannot do anything but complain about it while two users have essentially monopolized editing rights to these articles.