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Regarding page named "Elendil band"

Hi.

I'm sorry for writing, you have every reason to delete my page.

My band is called Elendil, and we want to create a wiki page for it, so we can link it in future to other pages. The reason i didn't fill it was because i didn't have time then. But i will fill it, i just have kind of a busy program. Please reserve the page named "Elendil band", so it won't be taken. We are just releasing an album so we have little time but shortly in the future we will make time for it's creation. Thank you for understanding.

With great admiration and respect to wiki and what you are doing,

Simon Örs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Deathryx (talk • contribs) 06:11, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

There is no way to "reserve" a page on WIkipedia. You may write an article on the band at the appropriate time, bearing in mind that musical acts must meet the basic notability standards found at WP:BAND. If there happen to be two bands named "Elendil", they will have to be disambiguated in their titles, probably by geography. Simply releasing an album doesn't satisfy notability guidelines - charting, significant tours, mention in major press or the like are needed. Acroterion _(talk) 11:49, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for the update. I read the criteria and i was a little puzzled. So we must already be famous to create a page on wiki? The reason we want to create a page is that labels take us more seriously, since we want to advance fast. So until we reach a national chart or release gold or etc. we cannot create a page... That's kind of sad, since we want to use every little option we have to become more known, and this is one of the little stuff that can help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Deathryx (talk • contribs) 07:55, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

You're correct: Wikipedia documents existing notability, and does not encourage the use of the encyclopedia to promote a band or organization. While your enthusiasm for your band is commendable, you can't use the encyclopedia for promotion. I look forward to the band's eventual inclusion when you've made the big time. Acroterion _(talk) 11:31, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Tyler Clementi

Tyler Clementi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) - I see that this has been deleted twice on 1E grounds, if there was no deletion discussion perhaps there should be? I put a version up for speedy myself (it was unsourced) but looking at the sources it appears to have grounds on the basis of significant impact. A deletion discussion may be useful to air the notability of this incident due, in particular, it being a highly visible case of invasion of privacy prosecution. Note that a version was recently created (not by me) at Tyler clementi. Thanks, Fæ (talk) 10:32, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

After leaving this note, I went on to put the new article up for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tyler clementi though I have added a number of citations to the text. Your comments welcome. Fæ (talk) 11:01, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

The previous versions created were unsourced stubs that appeared to exist for the sake of being first. A more substantial article would be better suited for a deletion discussion. My personal feeling is that an article will be sustainable over the privacy issue rather than the individual, but a useful article should wait until the case develops. Given the tendency for people to jump on the subject as soon as they possibly can, that is a vain hope. Acroterion _(talk) 11:44, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

After looking at the current version, it is far more advanced than what was previously deleted, and is certainly not speediable. Acroterion _(talk) 11:46, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification and your note at the deletion discussion. The obvious debate over what is BIO1E vs. a notable article is under-way, which I am pleased to see as it should nicely establish consensus either way. Fæ (talk) 15:01, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Pen houses?

Front of the house

The National Register nomination form for the Blair-Dunning House in Bloomington, Indiana describes the original (central) portion of the house as a "four-pen structure". What's a pen in this context — a bay (architecture)? Here is a photo from a different angle. Nyttend (talk) 14:48, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

For clarification — the original portion is the two-story piece; the porches are attached to later additions. Nyttend (talk) 14:49, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

I've always taken a "pen" as analogous to a bay, the term arising from a log enclosure that becomes a room once it's roofed. That's my personal etymology, not something that's researched. I'm not sure how it applies to the illustrated house - I'll see what I can turn up. Acroterion _(talk) 15:00, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

I just found more information on this subject, thanks to a book published by Indiana's state historic preservation office — a double pen house was basically a single-room log building that was augmented by the addition of a room to one side. Since both sides of the pictured house have been expanded in this manner, I'm guessing that a four-pen house is just a doubly-augmented two-pen house. Nyttend (talk) 22:07, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Why did you delete White Bread Fred. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TVmenace (talk • contribs) 05:12, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

You have deleted Intelligence, surveilance society

Intelligence surveilance society was a page in progress. It's references were going to be put on the page by the 7th October. Stephenj642 (talk) 15:48, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

The article did not provide any context or evidence that the organization (whatever it is) is notable. In writing an encyclopedia article, you need to provide enough context for a reader to know what you're talking about and why it's important. Acroterion _(talk) 15:50, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Thats the way it should be..

Interjection of commentary that does nothing to help improve an article should be removed on sight as you did here. It is nothing but disruption and trolling in my opinion and I think more of this needs to be done...probably 80% of the text in the 9/11 related articles talk archives is dealing with such gibberish.--MONGO 00:06, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Taken seriously, it amounts to an accusation of complicity in mass murder; taken not-so-seriously, it adds nothing. I find the meme about nothing like this happening due to fire interesting; apart from fire, no high-rise buildings have been hit by wide-body airplanes before either, but that gets glossed over. There is a willful misunderstanding of the performance of steel buildings in fires and the limitations of building and fireproofing technology. If you can't or don't fight a fire in a steel building aggressively, it will either burn out or the building will collapse. Until 2001 they'd either burned out or the firefighting efforts were successful. Acroterion _(talk) 03:01, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

FashionABLE page

Hi I was just wondering why the fashionABLE page was deleted? I understand that it may come off as a promotion, but it really is more of an understanding of a movement that we are trying to make known. I saw that you can mark the page as a hangon if you want to dispute the delete, but I don't know where to do this. I'm hoping that there is a way to salvage the page that I put up, even if it is not published. It took me several hours to write, and I would like to use it as a template for a new page.

Please let me know,

Thanks Mochatern (talk) 19:27, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

The article read as a press release or promotion, rather than as an encyclopedia article. Wikipedia is not a means of promotion - it documents information neutrally, in a formal, encyclopedic tone. The article also did not indicate whether the subject was notable - whether the organization that supports the activity has received significant coverage in major independent news outlets. If you are "trying to make known" the movement, Wikipedia is not a good choice. Wikipedia documents pre-existing notability. I will be happy to place the deleted text in your userspace at User:Mochatern/sandbox so you can either address the issues above or so you can create other articles, subject to compliance with Wikipedia's rules concerning notability and encyclopedic content. Acroterion _(talk) 20:27, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Mark Boler

Hey, I'm new to this, you just deleted a page I'm not even finished creating. This is the pages for a relevant person, he is a candidate for congress for the 26 district of Texas. I could use some help creating this page instead of road blocks. I love Wikipedia, I wouldn't want to add anything irrelevant or inaccurate, so please help me here. Thanks ;P —Preceding unsigned comment added by KanardAzul (talk • contribs) 21:26, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Replied on your talkpage. Acroterion _(talk) 21:30, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Alpine Wall

Hi Acroterion, thank you for the congratulations, but honestly I don't think I have time to spend in both Wiki (italian and english). At the moment I'm translating the List of allied military operations of the Vietnam War (1966) and the Progetto Guerra "steals" me a lot of time!

Anyway, you may ask to Ellegimark (en-2, as me) or Llorenzi (en-3, better than me), two of the most active ad able users who joins the "vaglio" of the Alpine Wall. Good luck! ;)

P.s. sorry for my english and, if it's possible, answer me in my italian user talk! --Bonty90 (talk) 13:59, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Acroterion _(talk) 15:53, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Matt Nicholas Hines

Hi, you declined a speedy deletion from that article with the edit summary "apparently will be on Disney" did you have a more reliable source than his own web page for that information? I wasn't able to find anything myself. --D•g ^{Talk to me}/_{What I've done} 03:51, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

I declined my own speedy deletion; he did after all make an assertion of notability, however weak, and I did find an independent source that indicates Disney - I didn't bother to look at his personal website. The article is problematic on several levels, but I decided it wasn't eligible for speedy deletion: AfD is probably the best place, but it was late and I didn't have time to do that. Acroterion _(talk) 11:36, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

I agreed with the decline of speedy deletion, it seemed to assert its own notability to the point where it was no longer appropriate for speedy deletion. I was just wondering if you had found a reliable source that I hadn't before I took if to AfD. But it looks like someone else deleted it anyway so it no longer matters. --D•g ^{Talk to me}/_{What I've done} 16:03, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Rebecca Camhi Gallery

Good day,

This article is intended to educate readers on the growing cultural aspects of the area, and this gallery is one of the highlights of the area in terms of this culture.

Entrance is free of charge and we have no affiliation to this gallery whatsoever.

Please inform us of any information we have included that creates the impression that this article has been written for commercial purposes.

Kind regards,

Metaxourgeio (talk) 15:16, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

The article was promotion from beginning to end, and free admittance makes no difference at all. Please do not promote non-notable businesses on Wikipedia. Acroterion _(talk) 15:21, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Michael_Sutton_WAP/Buying_Property_in_Turkey

Hi Acroterion

I have changed the page and put it in my namespace:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Michael_Sutton_WAP/Buying_Property_in_Turkey

I added a section on how the buying process could be changed by upcoming constitutional reforms etc. I can also add a section on why Turkish property is currently more popular than pre-crunch, detailing the fading importance of contentitious EU membership owing to the sovereign debt crisis in the EU, and a host of other reasons, but I wanted to focus on the buying process.

Can you let me know if I am moving in the right direction please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Michael Sutton WAP (talk • contribs) 17:16, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Several problms come to mind:

• • The article is written in an informal tone inappropriate for an encyclopedia (you should avoid the use of the first and second person)
  • It reads as a how-to guide - Wikipedia isn't guide for those purchasing real estate, it is an encyclopedia of the issues surrounding Turkish real estate
  • It's a content fork of Foreign purchases of real estate in Turkey.
  • It still comes across as promotional - what encyclopedia would have a section titled "Choices, Choices, Choices?"

I'd advise you to propose changes on the existing article's talk page if you feel you have some relevant points to add to the existing article; those changes should be backed up by appropriate references and should be scrupulously non-promotional. Acroterion _(talk) 17:23, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

The Real Nasty (musician page) deleted

Hi, This was my first attempt at creating a Wikipedia page (The_Real_Nasty) and I accidentally hit save at the first paragraph triggering a fast delete by you due to lack of content. I have since finished the article and feel like it has plenty of relevant content. Can I give it another shot?

Dina

Golden tooth (talk) 23:24, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Sure. Just one thing - have you read WP:BAND and make sure that the band meets the notability guidelines? 'Cause otherwise it's likely to get deleted again. We get a lot of articles on bands, as you've probably noticed, and 90% don't meet the inclusion guidelines. Acroterion _(talk) 01:34, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Regarding deletion of Orkut PSPK page

May i know the reason behind deletion of my page please :(

Jstvicky (talk) 00:11, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

It was a contextless verse concerning someone whose significance was not indicated, and which bore no relation to the title. It was not appropriate for an encyclopedia, whose purpose is to provide clear, well-written information on encyclopedic subjects. Acroterion _(talk) 01:32, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

User:Nobias12

If time were to allow, could you look at the actions of this user? Frankly I am confused by the 'edit history' page and it is not clear to me what exactly he is doing and if it might be called vandalism. He is a new and energetic user and would rather not rain on his parade at this point. Paul, in Saudi (talk) 11:27, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

He's characterizing things he doesn't agree with as vandalism, which is not acceptable. I left him a nudge on his talkpage and reverted the items he termed "vandalism", as I see a content dispute or a sourcing dispute, which is something else entirely. Those should be discussed, not summarily dismissed with an inappropriate edit summary. Acroterion _(talk) 12:05, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

I have now added references to my new article, would you please have a look and let me know if everything is ok ?

Hi Acroterion,

Thank you for your comments - 'We only need one title, and given the prior existence of another Ted Elliott, Ted Elliott (voice over) is the appropriate format. You may wish to devote some time to finding and providing references and making sure that the article is in compliance with WP:BIO and the manual of style WP:MOS. Acroterion (talk) 14:00, 8 October 2010 (UTC)'

I have now added references to my new article, would you please have a look and let me know if everything is ok ?

Thank you,

Matthew Jones TPB 17:57, 8 October 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mljones001 (talk • contribs)

I think there's enough referencing there now, but it'll need some formatting. You might want to think about toning the article down - while it's not promotion, it has a promotional air to it and could be scaled back a little to be more suitable for an encyclopedia. I'll try to format references for you, at least a couple so you can see how it's done. Acroterion _(talk) 18:05, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

That would be great - thank you for your time .... Matthew Jones TPB 18:22, 8 October 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mljones001 (talk • contribs)

First, thanks...

...for adding the comment about Oversight, it was an oversight on my part to exclude it. I usually use my (relatively newly minted) bit to close AfDs, so if I've mucked up anything with the blocking or revdels, feel free to drop me a note (or an email, link on my userpage), or slap me with a trout, as appropriate.  ;-) Thanks again! --j⚛e decker^talk 02:19, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

No problem, glad you were on it so quickly. I did mean to ask you about indeffing the IP - while I'd certainly hit that one with a significant block, indef isn't done for IPs unless it's clearly a static IP with a long history of problems. I'd suggest 3 months, to get past the election, so some future user of the dynamic IP doesn't get turned away. Acroterion _(talk) 02:22, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Awesome, I'll go get that changed. That was just inexperience and "block it now, fix the details later" speaking. Thanks! --j⚛e decker^talk 02:24, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

No problem, that one was a "burn with cleansing fire " set of libels. Also, when dealing with revdels, it's best to be vague about the log entry - "defamation" is fine, those who need to know and have the necessary permissions can figure out the rest for themselves. Acroterion _(talk)

Thanks, will keep that in mind going forward. That makes a lot of sense. (And got the block length fixed) Thanks! --j⚛e decker^talk 02:29, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Sorry

It was a harmless mistake. I did not know that other english users spell offense "offence", i thought it was a careless spelling error, so i fixed it. A Word Of Advice From Beastly20: Don't Be Silly, Wrap Your Willy! 23:03, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

That's what I thought - now you know. You might find American and British English spelling differences interesting, as well as WP:ENGVAR. Acroterion _(talk) 23:05, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

hello Am George Fotiadis and am a musician producer that wanted to set up few lines for my work in wikipedia

Hello and i hope i dont waste your time,,

am a music producer and i thought as ther is a report of my music on wikipedia thru NUFUNK to set up my bio,,

i didnt want to make any spam or something,,am an artist,,

i will appreciatee if you give me the right to write very few things about me,, is it possible?

thanks for your time,,

George Fotiadis —Preceding unsigned comment added by Georgios Fotiadis (talk • contribs) 04:00, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Basement Freaks was blatant promotion and unsuitable as an encyclopedia article. You may not use Wikipedia to promote yourself or acts with which you are associated. For that reason, Wikipedia policy strongly discourages any conflict of interest - under this policy you are discouraged from writing about yourself, your business, or your music. Acroterion _(talk) 04:05, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

why u deleting a page i am creating

i am creating it and its being removed before i can finish it i have pictures and audio and etc that all supports this nickname piggy james or is this some sorta censorship from the hole truth ?

Please stop creating hoax/nonsense articles. Acroterion _(talk) 04:08, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

FYI: The page isn't a hoax (see Google news search); but it is poorly written, and nothing but a nickname for a person who already has an article on Wikipedia. At best, the new page could be a reasonable redirect ... but no reason for a full article under the nickname page name. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 04:19, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

u must be kidding i went to this event the wwe wrestling took all videos and etc and its not a hoax there alot members of the wwe world that like the hole truth its a nickname for mickie james and i have about 2 pages of pictiures and video and etc to back it up here is one the images so far so u can see this is real http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/5853/piggyjames.png and its all over wwe.com and i beat there a hoax as well even tho there on tv every monday and friday —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dlshack2 (talk • contribs) 04:16, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

We only accept material from reliable sources (personal research is not an acceptable source, only material from previously published independent media are acceptable), about notable events, written in an understandable manner. Your article was not acceptable for an encyclopedia. While it may not be a hoax, it doesn't appear to be suitable for inclusion. As Barek points out, we already have an article on Mickie James. Acroterion _(talk) 04:20, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

then remove the wiki i was adding mine too as it follows the guidelines you just gave to me as unacceptable —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dlshack2 (talk • contribs) 04:23, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

You'll have to express yourself more clearly - there's already an article on Mickie James. Acroterion _(talk) 04:30, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Need Some Help

I have seen the "Why was my article deleted?" question posed some many times, I have actually created a page (to be used as a template) about it. You can find it here. What I need, is I feel some examples are missing and the ones I have are lacking. Could you look it over and see what is missing? I don't want to add this to a person's page with missing information and not be able to answer their question. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 05:00, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Why do you always get all the complainers? I deleted dozens of articles and images yesterday, but except for one redirect deletion that was misinterpreted as an article deletion, all of the complaints I got (including someone who wants to speedy delete the article being discussed here) are from people who disagree with my decision not to delete. Nyttend (talk) 12:12, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

@Nyttend: I delete a lot of hoax and spam pages, it goes with the territory. Take a look at my deletion logs - there are some real gems in there. The hoaxers want to convince me that there really are some islands off Greenland called Baldinesea, and the spammers are convinced that their band or company meet the standards and if I just would pay more attention I'd know that, and that it's perfectly acceptable to write purple prose to describe how fabulous they are. The recent article The best mold(mould, tooling) in China and its variants are classics. I've done a lot of speedy deletions in the past few days. There have been a lot of very aggressive spammers, attack page artists, very young children putting up Too Much Information (one was six! Her writing and spelling were great, but that's far too young to be on the Internet). I've helped a couple of the people above write acceptable articles, or at least articles that can't be speedied, but they're depressingly rare. The person above wants to add a nickname for a professional wrestler, but has severe problems writing coherently, making them very difficult to understand, particularly past midnight local time.

@NH: That's a good start. A lot of admins have similar essays, or links, posted on their talkpages. I don't know how effective they are, since I try to explain deletions to everyone on their own talkpages through the Templates Nobody Reads, but it might be useful. Acroterion _(talk) 13:50, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Funny, I delete plenty of hoaxes and spam as well; you must get all of the hoaxers and spammers that pay attention to the pages that they wrote. Nyttend (talk) 18:19, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Friday and Saturday nights seem to produce the most contention - I can't imagine why. Acroterion _(talk) 19:30, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Please click new message.

when you edited my Talk page last, you obviously did not click the "New Section" button next to the "Edit" button in the top-right of the page, and just edited the section before it. I had to manually make a new section for you. It makes it easier for everyone to click "New Message", unless you are purposely adding to an existing section. Thank you. A Word Of Advice From Beastly20: Don't Be Silly, Wrap Your Willy! 02:24, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

I didn't hand-write the edit. Replied at greater length on your talkpage. Acroterion _(talk) 02:41, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

New NRHP Listing in Shenandoah County, VA

According to this story, there is a new historic place in Shenandoah County, Virginia. As of yet though, I can not find it on the county listing so I am not sure how you want to list that here on Wikipedia. Just a heads up. Take Care...Neutralhomer • Talk • 20:20, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Replied for you. Nyttend (talk) 18:04, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, I was going to go look for the link to the new listings but hadn't gotten there yet. Acroterion _(talk) 18:10, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

My User/Talk page

when you go to my userpage and talk page, does the message bar say your name or my name? I want to know from another user because i do not want to create another account to see this for myself, and that would be sockpuppetry. A Word Of Advice From A Beast: Don't Be Silly, Wrap Your Willy! 01:41, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Saw your post ... the "REVISIONUSER" code that you used on the header displays the last user to have edited a page, not the current viewer of a page. So, I'm currently seeing your name in the header. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 01:45, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Then does anyone know the code that displays the current viewer of a page?A Word Of Advice From A Beast: Don't Be Silly, Wrap Your Willy! 01:46, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

(talk page stalker): It says your name, you can easily fix this by removing your name and adding the following code: {{{{{|safesubst:}}}BASEPAGENAME}} Also, your talk page link on your signature directs to Usertalk:Beastly20. Notice there is no space. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 01:48, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, NeutralHomer. Does that code display the current user? A Word Of Advice From A Beast: Don't Be Silly, Wrap Your Willy! 01:51, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

I believe that the code from Neutralhomer would always display your name. To the best of my knowledge, there is no code that will display the user-ID of anyone who is currently viewing a page.

I use the "REVISIONUSER" code, but in my user page editnotice, so it only displays when someone is editing the page - that way, as the most current editor, it will show the viewer's name. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 01:54, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Link for how to create an editnotice subpage: Wikipedia:Editnotice#User_and_user_talk. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 01:56, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

There is a code that does exactly that on the Call of Duty Wiki, and I use it on my User Page there. If someone could go to my userpage there, I use the same Username, and tell me the code that I use so i could try it out here, i would appreciate it. I am blocked by my dad from editing there( Parental Controls), so I cant do it myself. A Word Of Advice From A Beast: Don't Be Silly, Wrap Your Willy! 01:59, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Barek is right, my goof. I am tired. Yeah, that would give just your name. Stand by, there is a code for people, let me find it. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 02:02, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Did all that looking and Barek had beaten me. Yup, he is correct, the code you want is {{REVISIONUSER}}. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 02:13, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

I'm glad Barek and NH are helping Beastly out, because this kind of coding isn't my field. Acroterion _(talk) 02:48, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Deleting Templates

Can you please delete this page and all the subpages on it?? A Word Of Advice From A Beast: Don't Be Silly, Wrap Your Willy! 01:48, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

It appears that Gold and Magenta were the only subpages - let me know if that's not the case, or if you'd like them restored. Acroterion _(talk) 02:52, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Architecture categories

Asking you because, if I remember rightly, you're the only WP:ARCH member whom I know. Do you think that there'd be a benefit to subdividing the "[year] architecture" categories, similar to the way the "Built in [year]" categories are subdivided at Commons? For example, I think that Category:1919 architecture might be more useful if we had a subcategory of Category:1919 architecture in the United States and perhaps parallel categories for other countries. As always, talkback please. Nyttend (talk) 18:10, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Yes, because design trends are different in time and geography: what was up-to-the-minute in most of the US in the1920s would have been considered dowdy in Germany or England at that time, when the International Style was just making waves in Europe. The Viennese Secession and De Stijl were highly localized and had little to do with other architecture of their time. In the US, the architecture of Wyoming in 1920 had little to do with the architecture of New York of the same time. Acroterion _(talk) 18:18, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. What would you think of filing a bot request to help with this? I'd suggest that the bot create a category for each year in 1776 and later (to avoid debates about whether an earlier building was built in the USA if there were no USA then), and then populate it by looking at every article that's (1) in Category:Buildings and structures in the United States or a subcategory thereof and (2) in a "[year] architecture" category. Therefore, my recently-expanded Blair House (Montgomery, Ohio) would be moved to "1875 architecture in the United States" because it's in Category:Houses on the National Register of Historic Places in Ohio and in Category:1875 architecture. I know that there are tons of subcategories of Buildings and structures in the United States, but I think that we can avoid false positives by requiring any articles that are moved to have the architecture year category. Nyttend (talk) 18:26, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I'd certainly rather see a bot do that than a human. I've never liked those catch-all year categories and have tended to ignore them, as they in their present form add little to an understanding of design. Acroterion _(talk) 18:28, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good; it's the "Subdivide architecture categories" section of Wikipedia:Bot requests. I've always thought of these categories as being similar to the "[year] births" and "[year] deaths" categories for biographies, with the major difference that those are needed for BLP reasons, and these obviously aren't. Nyttend (talk) 18:45, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Although I posted the request four days ago, I've not gotten any replies; my own edits are the only ones in that thread. I'm hoping that it will be answered sooner or later; after all, I doubt that programming this bot would be as difficult as programming other bots that I've seen around. Just for kicks, I created Category:1920 architecture in the United States and manually moved all of the relevant articles; it took me 20 minutes just to do this one year (and it was less than half the size of categories such as 1929), so I share your hearty preference for bot help. Nyttend (talk) 23:56, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

It's best to not be in a hurry when posting a bot request. I saw y9ou moving categories - definitely a job for a program. Acroterion _(talk) 01:06, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Deletion

An article I had created was speedily deleted under section A7 for failing to show significance. I am trying to create an article for a non-profit organization in Memphis that provides 24/7 telephone hotline support for people in crisis, under the name "Memphis Crisis Center."

I would appreciate help in overcoming these barriers.

Jessiemwalker (talk) 01:53, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

I'll reply on your talkpage. Acroterion _(talk) 01:55, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Just a random comment

Hey, just saw your block on Poppy, I gotta say that was a pretty funny block, getting block in 2 days lol. Anyways just a random comment and props to you bro.--iGeMiNix/What's up?/My Stuff 01:57, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Any notion that they were naive newcomers to Wikipedia was dispelled by their behavior, so I made it a little harder for them to create their next account. Acroterion _(talk) 02:03, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Lol, nice nice. At least they aren't promoting anything. =P--iGeMiNix/What's up?/My Stuff 02:04, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

I learned everything I know about snappy block notices and declines from FisherQueen (talk · contribs). I've been deleting a lot of obvious vandalism on newpage patrol today - a couple of days ago it was aggressive spammers, and before that it was attack artists. These things seem to come in waves. Acroterion _(talk) 02:08, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Nice, yeah they do, and of course not all of us have the all the time in the world, especially when I am on Huggle or Igloo, I just tend to stay on for a bit and try hard to get off at times. lol--iGeMiNix/What's up?/My Stuff 02:12, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Arthur B. Robinson

Your thoughts on the kerfuffle developing on this page would be most welcome. I feel as if I had been attacked, but you know how I can get. I appreciate some wise words before I respond further. Paul, in Saudi (talk) 10:35, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

I've commented there - my position would be that you should start with a secondary source that deals with Robinson's personal positions on education (surely somebody's commented on them?), then support that by reference to Robinson's website, rather than starting there. One of 71's edit summaries implies that it shouldn't be included if it's not relevant to his candidacy, which, if they really mean that, would be an odd way to write a biography. NOR, like BLP, can be used to stifle a discussion, and 71's interpretation of NOR is not supported by the policy as I read it. One can, in fact, use primary sources, provided they are used as support for a basic premise derived from secondary sourcing - the writings of biographical subjects are routinely cited, but usually in a context set by another source. Acroterion _(talk) 12:30, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Allow me to chill before I post there again. Paul, in Saudi (talk) 13:22, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

There are no deadlines, and it's worth waiting to see what shakes out.Acroterion _(talk) 13:38, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Deletion

Hi Is there any way I can create a Wikipedia page for my organization? Please let me know. If it is not allowed, then I won't make such promotional efforts. I apologize for the previous ones. Malikjuhi (talk) 16:47, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Replied on your talkpage. Acroterion _(talk) 16:50, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

R.K. Lawton

Hi I don't understand what explanation is required. I felt the links speak for themselves. And if I understand correctly, he is also an administrator and a key member of the Wikipedia team, helping numerous users with his expertise and pictures. This is all I have to say and will not contest your authority. --Pablostende (talk) 16:54, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Assuming you're sincerely contributing, the article makes no encyclopedic contribution, nor does it indicate why he is significant. Links do not accomplish this. Wikipedia administrators are not notable. Acroterion _(talk) 16:58, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

HTF Acronym

This is not made up. It actually happened. What else do I need to show aside from the references? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Motorheadno13 (talk • contribs) 18:44, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not for things you've made up one day. It's also not a dictionary. Neologisms must have documented currency in the form of published articles specifically addressing the subject. Acroterion _(talk) 19:04, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Putchy Style

Woah, G10? Admittedly I only had a quick look over it, but did I miss something obvious here? I don't recall seeing any living people mentioned, it seemed to be a rather strange made-up term. My apologies if I failed to tag a G10... GiftigerWunsch [TALK] 20:53, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

It made reference to a particular person, presumably the "little Putch" referred to in the article, in a derogatory manner. This is a fairly common way to make fun of people, and usually is meant to be teasing rather than a significant attack, but it's within the bounds of a G10. It wasn't really obvious, but it also meant that it could be summarily deleted. Acroterion _(talk) 20:58, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Hmm somewhat borderline then, and makes it possible to delete now without waiting for the prod. Alright, I'll spare myself the trout. Thanks for the explanation. GiftigerWunsch [TALK] 21:01, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Please do spare yourself the trout. It's a useful excuse to speedy-delete an obviously inappropriate article rather than letting it sit for ten days - if had referred to the person in a positive way, the excuse wouldn't have been available and it would have had to go as a PROD. It could also have been termed vandalism/hoax as it sort of implied that it was a language. Acroterion _(talk) 21:09, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Congressional Black Caucus

Vandalized by Bdel965 again. (I want to mention how much I admire your eagle-barnstar thing.) Paul, in Saudi (talk) 15:47, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Blocked. Yeah, I like the inflatable eagle - with a different paintjob it could be an equally good penguin, for those whose national symbol is the penguin - I'm campaigning for adoption by Argentina in lieu of whatever they use. Acroterion _(talk) 15:58, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

"lou leonardi"

Could you please undelete this article? We have received OTRS permission for it which I can add as soon as it is restored. VernoWhitney (talk) 22:08, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Done, needs a rewriting and a renaming. Acroterion _(talk) 23:34, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll move it and tag it for permission and rewrite. Cheers! VernoWhitney (talk) 23:37, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Why did you delete the article "The Dubois Special"?

?? It was a work in progress! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xsdeaf (talk • contribs) 00:07, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Because it made no indication that it met the inclusion guidelines for bands - please review WP:BAND. Acroterion _(talk) 00:33, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Dark Umbra

Hi. I wonder if it's worth salting this? --Kudpung (talk) 04:52, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

They seem to have stopped for now and are in a discussion with Kinu on G11, A7 and so forth, so I'll leave it alone. If it shows up again without a good-faith attempt to meet inclusion guidelines, it could be salted. Acroterion _(talk) 11:31, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Good Country People - Deleted?

I was curious about why an entry for the Flanery O'Connor short story "Good Country People" was deleted. It remains (in my opinion, but also in those of various lit journals over the years) one of her finest and most ironic works, and even if it weren't, but just an example of her writing. If there is a Plaot, Storyline, Synopsis and List of Characters... well, what's the problem? 67.250.32.227 (talk) 09:29, 21 October 2010 (UTC) Dario

Without going into too much detail, while the attempt at an article did make reference to the O'Connor story, it made a violent turn into pure vandalism. Looked like a high school kid who really didn't like their assignment. Until someone writes an appropriate article as you've described above, it's best left deleted. Acroterion _(talk) 11:47, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

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Geometry

why would you delete that —Preceding unsigned comment added by Catraa (talk • contribs) 21:40, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Replied on your talkpage. Acroterion _(talk) 21:42, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Caponer

Who are you to tell me what to do? I'm free of asking help and lead other people to see and act at the same issues. LoveActresses (talk) 15:57, 23 October 2010 (UTC) Do you even have the nerve of forbidding, as if..., people from acting as they want towards eachother? That's even worse than some rules of wikipedia!... No one asked you to middle in other people's issues anyway. LoveActresses (talk) 15:58, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

I've worked with Caponer on other matters and happened to notice your rather demanding note. He's indicated that he won't be participating as much as he used to, and you appear to be making inappropriate demands, characterizing content disputes as vandalism. I therefore felt it was appropriate to leave you a note on appropriate interaction with other editors. This is a wiki: everything is everybody else's business. Acroterion _(talk) 16:02, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Too bad. I can live with that, but not with destruction of articles. The end is what matters. If you knew anything about the talkings you meddle with, you'd know that I've tried to deal with the other editor but he keeps using his subjective and biased views as if they were wikipedia rules. LoveActresses (talk) 16:03, 23 October 2010 (UTC) You're not my business, and just because you're such an SOB that you say "everything is everybody else's business" I'll ignore you from now on, because you're not my business and I won't let you make mine yours. LoveActresses (talk) 16:05, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

If there's something specific that you can point to, (preferably with the relevant diffs or history), I'd be happy to take an independent look at it, remembering that my opinion might be to nobody's liking. In the meantime, I suggest that you moderate your tone in interacting with others. Civility is not an optional policy. Acroterion _(talk) 16:08, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Fort des Ayvelles

— Rlevse • Talk • 18:03, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

I don't understand

Why would article about a guy who appeared on the largest and most watched TV stations in the World in just a few days and is among the youngest authors on the Globe be insignificant?! There are tens of thousands of people with Wikipedia articles which were never mentioned on BBC or ARD in the whole history of these channels. I demand un-deleting the article. --Nederlander1977 (talk) 18:53, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

See the article deletion discussion: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rastko Pocesta and WP:ONEEVENT. He may become prominent in the future, but inclusion in Wikipedia is based on a continuum of notice. You may make a request at WP:DRV for reinstatement of the article if you wish. Acroterion _(talk) 19:23, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Name change

Yes :) I was just writing to you againg because i was now abel to logg on to my Concerphotos account. Ok, i will do that and thanks for your support and quick answers! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Concertphotos (talk • contribs) 13:42, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

KJ FROM KALI

Per your last warning here, user immediately recreated page (or some version of it; I'm not a sysop and can't see the deleted versions) as SmolerMan (Comics). Just FYI, your call. Best regards, TRANSPORTERMAN (TALK) 15:34, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Deleted and indeffed. Thanks for letting me know. Acroterion _(talk) 15:38, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Midlands School District, Arkansas

Has been proposed for speedy deletion, and I value your comments, as always. Paul, in Saudi (talk) 10:10, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

If I was King of Wikipedia I'd delete every article on a school or school district, but community sentiment is against me. I'd view the article as something of a coatrack based on the 15-minute notability of a single board member, and so wouldn't want to retain it. Acroterion _(talk) 17:28, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. Paul, in Saudi (talk) 09:37, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you

I sincerely appreciate the warm hearted and well-thought out email regarding retirement. It wasn't just the failed RfA... I have became disillusioned by wikipedia due to a number of factors. I guess you could say it was initiated by RfA, because I have never felt so mercilessly ripped apart but then other things just piled on and now I just don't care, considering the fact that it's not paid yet this place is so stressful, and that's compared to a job that pays fairly well. Some points were valid in the rfa but some points were just sheerly hypocritical, and not just in mine. I guess I should admit, for whatever it's worth, I was trying to go for a more introspective approach re: the RfA, not someone who just wants the tools. I could go on and on about how this site could be taken more seriously but at least for me, I don't take WP seriously, considering we have a self-described "mature" 16 year old who needs to harass myself on sites like facebook, without provocation. Kind regards Tommy! 19:41, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Free Classic architecture?

How would you suggest categorising buildings that are classified as "Free Classic"? Lots of houses in the Steele Dunning HD here in Bloomington are so classified on the district's list of contributing properties, but I don't know what to do with them: Free Classic architecture is a redlink, searching for "Free Classic architecture" or "Free Classic" brings up no relevant results, and Google yields lots of irrelevant results. Nyttend (talk) 00:41, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Sounds like something somebody made up to sound like they knew what they were talking about. I'd guess that it means that they have a few Classical elements pasted on here and there.. The picture in the link is of a rather spare Queen Anne cottage. Acroterion _(talk) 01:01, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Okay; the pictured house is typical of such houses, so I'll classify them as Queen Anne. One other question: what is a "Carpenter-Builder" house? I've interpreted this designation, which is applied to houses such as this one, as being a notice that the carpenter was the one who designed it; accordingly, I've classed this image as simple vernacular architecture. Nyttend (talk) 01:06, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Pretty much the same thing - a stripped-down kind of Queen Anne frame house. A more elaborate version would be Carpenter Gothic. Acroterion _(talk) 01:17, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Duly noted, and category has been changed; thanks for the help! Nyttend (talk) 01:20, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Images

Hi Acroterion...I haven't checked out your latest at Commons but was wondering if you have any pictures of McDonald Peak...it is visible from near St Ignatius, MT.--MONGO 01:57, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

I don't have anything, it was nearly dark when we went through there. I haven't uploaded anything in a while, but have been working on images. As a matter of fact, I'm working on images from the day we went through St. Ignatius. I'll see if I can upload a few things you might find useful. Acroterion _(talk) 02:04, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Thats cool...I'll keep my eyes open at Commons for your stuff.--MONGO 02:13, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Bukubku and the Racism article

User:Bukubku and I have ran into trouble while editing the article on racism. They have been adding content about Imperial Japan's "anti-discrimination" policies, which I find are dubious and do not fit into the article. The article is about racism, and I have not found any other examples of peoples not being racist within the article. My sentiment is, that the article should discuss racism and things directly related to it. Not figures about Imperial Japan taking in a few thousand Jewish refugees, or how they had a conference about Racism with their vassal states.

Instead of discussing the issue, he has been picking at a statement I made about the credibility of a Thai diplomat, and tells me I have to wait for his consensus to delete content from the article. The user seems heavily influenced by nationalism, and has tried to assert several false statements as fact. I would suggest reviewing the articles he is trying to link to, as they seem to incorporate a denialist theme. Can you please mediate? --IronMaidenRocks (talk) 11:05, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

This is, as you know, an outgrowth of Bukubku's similar edits to The Holocaust, which met a cool reception. I haven't gone back and reviewed the events there, but I believe his overstated emphasis on Japanese intervention in the Holocaust was overborne there by consensus. His "seek consensus" is probably learned from that, but transfer of POV from one article to another isn't a good way to work. I don't know if there's an article on Japanese intervention in the Holocaust, but much of what he's trying to do would be best put in such a place. I have serious doubts about my ability to knowledgeably mediate. I think the best way to go about it would be an RFC for the article (so the consensus Bukubku claims to desire is achieved), and an RFC/U on Bukubku might be warranted, since he is pushing a national POV and is effectively edit-warring over several articles to accomplish this. I'll have a word with him, though. Acroterion _(talk) 12:12, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

I've looked at the article: removal of The Holocaust in favor of Racial Equality Proposal, 1919 would be an obvious red flag, so I've cautioned him there. An RFC/U is looking like a a good option. I did a quick check of some of his edits on other topics, which (to my eyes) looked OK, but while I am generally conversant on Imperial Japan, I am no expert. Acroterion _(talk) 12:40, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Racism

Why do you oppose to write Civil Rights Movements and Racial Equality Proposal? Do you really think no racism except for Holocaust in 20th?--Bukubku (talk) 14:29, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

No. Do you believe that the Japanese initiatives are so important in world history that they merit such extensive digressions? Acroterion _(talk) 14:34, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Are you serious? In 1919, most of the world were under the white rule. Only Japan could propose that. Japan is not important, the proposal is important. OK? After the war2, African and Asian countries got independece, then they demand racial equality. So racial unequlity was disappeared for the public.--Bukubku (talk) 14:49, 1 November 2010 (UTC)