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== R-f-C/See you real soon/K-e-y/Why? because we like you ==

Hi Cerejota!

Please see my RfC, where you have been cited, first by two energetic Wikipedians and then by me in discussion.

Cheers, <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">[[User:Kiefer.Wolfowitz|<font style="color:blue;background:yellow;">&nbsp;'''Kiefer'''</font>]].[[User talk:Kiefer.Wolfowitz#top|Wolfowitz]]</span></small> 16:08, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

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I am not certain how to do this as I am a newbie. I wrote a message to you in a new section of this page and on my talk page. Please feel free to write your comments to me on MY talk page. I hope this is appropriate and correct. Thank you.

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I posted my comment right after your deletion statement at the end of my talkpage...

Thanks!... just one more thing..(about advertisement)

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Complaints

Cerejota could you please answer the follow question regarding your concern about the History of Terrorism article

* 1 what sources are in your opinion are POV? (though surely all sources represent some POV)
* 2 what specific sections show bias?
* 3 what opinions are missing?
* 4 what sources are missing?

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.25.183.224 (talkcontribs)

The Article Rescue Squadron Newsletter (September 2009)

The Article Rescue Squadron Newsletter
Issue 2 (January 2010)

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My friend

You became one of my good friends here and that is I want to share with you my definite final article "Teatro Puerto Rico". The Teatro was an important part of my youth and I know that you are going to ask a question about someone in one of the pictures. Es mi viejo. Caribbean~H.Q., Jmundo, Eljohnson15, Mercy 11. Pr4ever and you, must continue your great work here, as the cornerstones of our Puerto Rican community here. I believe that since I became the subject of so much flak in the last four months, that more harm will come to our work by certain maggots in Wikipedia, if I stayed active.

Feliz Día del Pavo (Gracias)

Feliz Día de QUE? Para mi no lo es!

Feliz Día de Gracias Tony the Marine (talk), 25 November 2010

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OOOPS. Perhaps I should have put this at the end, sorry.

I am not certain how to do this as I am a newbie. I wrote a message to you in a new section of this page and on my talk page. Please feel free to write your comments to me on MY talk page. I hope this is appropriate and correct. Thank you.

You are something special

I can hardly imagine a better person to collaborate on a proposal with than you. Lately I have observed some remarkable clue from your corner. It goes beyond what luck could deliver. Before I bumped into you, and the fact that we were pursuing the same objective, what I was hoping to develop was targeted at exactly the qualities you exude. You'll notice I added a thread on the talk page regarding an essay I had developed. And because it was also developed for the ADMAN, a title you accentuate, I have added it also to your talk page, because you belong on that list, and it would be incomplete without you. With esteem - My76Strat (talk) 05:27, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate these words, and of course, NO U :P To answer your question, I have had a tumultuous relationship with Wikipedia, and a lot of life instability - which meant I personally didn't judge myself as interested in The Mop. Also, look at WP:WQA, BabbaQ exemplifies the kind of user that will oppose me on principle, because of my involvement in WP:ARBPIA - something that I do not regret (basically all the changes of substance that are there are going the way I think improve the encyclopedia - either because of my direct or indirect contribution), but have gained me some enemies. Some people are here because yet one more battleground in their battle, and unlike my more prudent fellow editors and not a few admins, I have no trouble jumping in the cesspool to rescue teh kittehs ;)--Cerejota (talk) 21:12, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There is a mop reserved in your name

I have observed some remarkable contributions from this account. I am curious, why are you not an administrator. Pardon that you have struck me as the kind of editor who could be a good one, and that you seem qualified by a cursory review. You exemplify the essence of an Administrator without tools! I hope you will consider serving in the fuller capacity.

My76Strat (talk) 05:27, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Cerejota is still evolving. Wait till you see the great things coming from his next stage of development! :)
 Kiefer.Wolfowitz 07:39, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I am sure you are correct, and I am certain it will be worth the wait. BTW Kiefer, you're not so bad yourself. Perhaps misunderstood at times, but never misguided. My76Strat (talk) 12:14, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keifer just needs some lovin' is all, then again, we all do. :P--Cerejota (talk) 21:05, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

In the midst of our disagreement

I wanted to apologize if anything I've said in the last few days has provoked you or pushed any buttons. My intention, as I'm sure yours, was to improve the encyclopedia. I noticed you're Brooklyn. Ten years ago today I was Queens. I invite you to read something I wrote yesterday morning, perhaps in the midst of our disagreement (I know I was feeling some misplaced anger at you when I wrote it, not realizing you were a fellow New Yorker, likely going through much of what I've been going through). I hope it helps us both to find some common ground. I value the work you do, especially, MOST ESPECIALLY when I disagree with you. It likely means you're seeing something I can't or won't see. Please forgive me. BusterD (talk) 12:29, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This is incredibly moving... at a personal level. Lets remember Frank, and all the other Franks... today and always... And there is nothing to forgive, because this is way more than I could ask for. Thank you for such incredible words, and thank you for not forgetting Frank, having learned of him, neither will I...--Cerejota (talk) 21:02, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I appreciate your willingness to put our passing disagreements behind us. As Wikipedians, I see we have much in common. I sure wish we could clash on SENSATION and NOTNEWSPAPER. I think our disagreement in the AfD is important. BusterD (talk) 21:19, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Don't mention it - it is others who are unwilling to do this, and continue with grudges and bickering, and trying to intimidate and a bunch of other stuff. Just one lesson - WP:DR is a Good Thing, and people shouldn't react bad to it - or try to escalate it needlessly ;)--Cerejota (talk) 21:24, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Would you give consideration to my final request in the WQA discussion? Thanks again for helping to resolve this minor disagreement. BusterD (talk) 01:07, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I did, and was doing so as you wrote this!--Cerejota (talk) 01:27, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thinking alike. Thanks, bro. While I have your attention, do you have any input here? BusterD (talk) 01:33, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Bugle: Issue LXVI, August 2011

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Foot, meet mouth

Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/My76Strat - consequence Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/My76Strat_2 consequence Wikipedia:April_fools/April_Fools'_Day_2011/My76StratRFA

I'd say give the guy a break - he maybe doesn't need the stress....? --Elen of the Roads (talk) 21:34, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Point taken. Point understood. Yet... if this guy were given The Mop, there wouldn't the apocalypse that all the thunderous nay saying predicts. Just because The Mop has become a big deal, it doesn't mean it is a big deal. This dude has much more sense in him than many an admin I have met, including some who are my buddies ;) and there has been no fire and brimstone as a result :)--Cerejota (talk) 21:43, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'm actually more concerned for him than for the project - which can survive the odd bad admin didn't mean that, meant something about admins with stress problems. Stress is rarely good for anyone, but it seems particularly bad for him, and admins do face a lot of flak, even if they don't end up stalked by Grawp or similar. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 21:48, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oh I understand now, yeah, is the rage comic bulging vein thing. Yeah, getting the mop does makes one a walking hate magnet, perhaps I have not seen him stress tested. On the other hand, people often misrepresent the feelings of others - if I had a dime for every time I have been told I was "mad" or "aggressive" I would be a millionaire - Meanwhile am just chillin' with teh kittehs and the iced coffee :)--Cerejota (talk) 22:21, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I mean, I wouldn't necessarily say I handle stress well, but to stress me you have to affect my kids, hubbie, job, cats etc. If you're rude to me on a website, you're just a stream of 10101010 - there's always the revert button or the option to just ignore. Elen of the Roads (talk) 22:57, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oh yeah someone messes with my kid, kittehs, or nerdmate, there is raaaaaage coming. Teh wikis, if they get to me, there is nothing a beer, a good book, or Netflix cannot fix :P--Cerejota (talk) 23:00, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Elen, I am slightly torn by this thread. You comment seems is well intentioned, but the header gives gave me pause for concern. Cerejota, whom I consistently regard as her, for the nurturing aspect of (her) comments, did not "open mouth; insert foot". On the other hand, you may have! You were incredibly shortsighted to label my bad knee jerk reaction as a consequence. This is a consequence, and this as well. And this and this and even this very post. Like everyone else, I am more than the sum of my parts, and I am certainly more than a few selected parts. misrepresented as the whole. My76Strat (talk) 00:10, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

AM not a she, although thats kinda kinky and genderfuckingly. That said, consider what you just said, and how it can be interpreted as proving her point ;) Idiomatic humor is a way we all communicate, as a way to demonstrate that while the issue being discussed is somewhat serious, there is no need to really get all bunched up about it, feel me?--Cerejota (talk) 00:19, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I apologize for stereotyping your gender. Yes, I have faults. I try to learn from my mistakes, and hope I progress towards betterment. I agree with everything you have asked me to feel. That is why I said I was "slightly torn" opposed to having been torn. I'm not really bunched up about certain things, but I am passionate. I hope this is understandable. Best - My76Strat (talk) 00:37, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
No need to apologize ;) That said, passion is awesome - so that is not the issue - the issue is that passion should be tempered by thoughtfulness.--Cerejota (talk) 01:02, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
You are absolutely right. My76Strat (talk) 01:13, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'd like to reassure you that I just wanted to let Cerejota know that you had been a bit stressed out by this adminship business before, and maybe it wasn't for the best to bring it up. Maybe I'm wrong about that, and it doesn't bother you, in which case that's great.Elen of the Roads (talk) 02:07, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
That is fine, and understandable. I'll admit, and I recognize this as a flaw, that I get defensive if I think something is said about me which I might disagree, or presume all the relevant facts hadn't been considered. I don't even know why, because it should not matter. The reason I thought you were commenting without knowing certain facts, is because that once you know that he and I are co-sponsoring an important proposal: WP:ALTRFA, and an associated essay: WP:ADMAN, coupled with the immediately preceding thread, the significance of the gesture becomes self apparent. I felt you were criticizing him for messaging be while himself not being aware of the facts. And I guess it reminded me of mistakes which no one is willing to forgive, or let fade (as in the entire concept of rehashing mistakes). Anyway, some of that defensiveness, spilled into my initial comment, and Cerejota helped me see how it was actually misplaced. For sure he is the stuff of an administrator! While I can't really take it back, because it was published, I did strike some of the emotion laden text. I hope you believe me when I say I didn't mean to offend, but was intent to be frank. Now I apologize for my candor, which was a selfish reflection. And one I hadn't quite seen until Cerejota help clear an object of my own stumbling. And then of course, there is the issue of people hating the way I write, which is at times, the hardest thing for me to overcome. Even this post qualifies as one I shouldn't have written, because it came out longer than many are willing to tolerate. Regardless that I felt a need to say the things said. But I'm working on that too. Thanks for reading this response. Cheers - My76Strat (talk) 06:49, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I triggered the edit filter with that one: [#cvn-wp-en] User User:My76Strat, Possible gibberish? User talk:Cerejota (1802) Diff: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ACerejota&diff=449971389&oldid=449924917 "/* Foot, meet mouth */ re Elen" My76Strat (talk) 06:51, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

Please see my response to you on User talk:ScottyBerg. To keep the discussion in one place, please respond there. Thanks, Newyorkbrad (talk) 21:55, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 12 September 2011

Thanks

See you later. WikifanBe nice 10:39, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That's harsh :/ --Cerejota (talk) 20:18, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't mean it to be. Thanks for your support at AE. Too bad it didn't work out. WikifanBe nice 22:56, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oh I meant the sanction was harsh - I really thought 0RR had momentum. It seems to me the admins gave up on you - probably because of your former mentor's input. Please don't leave Wikipedia altogether. I suggest, for example, you take on Jewish/Israeli topics not related to ARBPIA, or even better, something related to your professional interests and hobbies and not national/political interests. You could also make a great ITN generalist, as it seems you always get the news first (ie most of what you have created are ITN worthy articles, even if all ARBPIA) - ITN often overlooks good topics and has systemic bias issues.--Cerejota (talk) 23:01, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I guess I had it coming anyways. I might edit a little bit here and there, but just tired of the drama. I was considering opening up a Death of Andy Whitfield at ITN, but the news seems stale now. It's important that you know I really do appreciate your proposal and discussion at AE, you put a lot of thought and effort when you had no obligation at all. WikifanBe nice 23:10, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I also appreciate the maturity you have shown in handling the issue itself - and for seriously considering feeding your newsjunkie side, if you decide to go that way ITN will gain much.--Cerejota (talk) 23:45, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Your message

Hello. Sorry for replying on-wiki, I dislike using e-mail unless strictly necessary. I am not currently active in the area you mention, but you can make your request either on the administrator's noticeboard(s) dedicated to such issues or on the talk page of any currently active administrator. You can, I think, also ask any other user to take the requested action, or take the action yourself if you are uninvolved, because the rule at issue does not require action by an administrator.  Sandstein  11:32, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oh no problem, and thank you, you at least got my drift ;)--Cerejota (talk) 20:18, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

WQA board

Apologies for disturbing you on here Cerejota; I did mention on CT Cooper's talk page which can be found here, that I am sitting back from discussion, so that I am not being goaded into a full scale war by FleetCommand, which his harsh words are distressing me so much as it is. However, I noticed he posted a lengthy bullet-point of things that have been said; and I would like to respond to those. Yet I know in doing so that Fleet Command would only take the huff and think that I am picking on him, even though I am only explaining clearly, which is only fair. What I would like to know is, if it would be fine for me to post my response on my own talk page for now, so that it may be linked to the WQA itself if needs be. I look forward to your reply in due course. Wesley Mouse (talk) 22:35, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

WQA as it exists is broken, and I hope it can be fixed. That said, please read WP:CANVASS, going around requesting people look at an open WQA is not a good thing. As I told you, I think m:Metapedianism is vital to the project, but it also requires learning about the existing environment, our policies, and our actual realities, which often defy common sense and exist, for better or for worse, in a world of their own. In this sense, while I see your willingness and intent is commendable, you are taking this too personal in my view. Experienced MEDCAB mediators have faced much worse issues than you are, but their response to it is to shrug it off, and also either being admins or having a support network of admins to help them. All of these things take time to develop. You lack time and connections on the wiki, and hence, are more vulnerable and can feel alone. I recommend you let this one drop completely, and let the rest of the community handle the other user. And then seek out an experienced MEDCAB mediator to become your mentor, to induct you into the Cabal - if that is your area of interest. As you mentioned, you have real world experience in mediation, but that needs to be tempered by the often overwhelming nature of wikipedia. However, I think it is unfair to say that you are unqualified to mediate just because you got into a conflict, but there is a lesson here, which is that no matter how much real-life expertise there is in someone, the way wikipedians behave and act is often much different than in real life, and the social consequences and views are often different too. To be a new and relatively unexperienced user is not shameful, we all were at one point - but some areas take more time to master than others, and you would be happier in your experience here if you recognized this and adapted to it. In short: wikihaters gonna wikihate, its up to you to make lemonade out of the lemons.--Cerejota (talk) 22:55, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for replying back to me so rapidly. I wasn't expecting such fast response. Anyhow, I understand where you are coming from in regards to canvassing, although I'm not quite sure how I have canvassed, as that wasn't the intention. I contacted CT Cooper, as he is an editor on WP:ESC to which I am also work on that project. As I've gained trust in Mr Cooper, I thought it would be wise for me to seek an outside view on events, just in case there was something I had done wrong, and hadn't noticed it. I do trust his judgement 100%, and knew if anyone, he would say things as it is... which he did - and I thank Cooper for that too. Like I mentioned to Cooper, I have taken a back-seat from the current WQA, purely for the fact that I felt I was being goaded into a war by one user, and the comments and actions were distressing me personally. It was wise for me at that stage to just stand back and let Mr FleetCommand vent off his anger. As people say, it is best to let it drop and actually mean it. I am horrified though at the long points that have been posted, which are clear as the blue sky, are being written out of context. Alas, like you say, it be best to let others handle things now, and leave things be.
On a different note, I have read the details on m:Metapedianism, and I'm bemused at the "gadflies" reference. Not sure if I'd want to be referred to as a pest, that is what gadflies are I'm sure. I suppose that term is meant in jest, but I would appreciate some brief details into what exactly is the purpose of the role. Silly of me to ask I know, curiosity gets the better of me when something sounds good, but looks bizarre. As for the lemonade, mmmm I now fancy a glass of freshly made lemonade :0) Wesley Mouse (talk) 23:14, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I do not imply that you are canvassing, just saying that in the middle of a DR process, the other side can pick on anything to raise a storm. That said, I think you point out something important about "gadfly" in Meta, which I will fix. The term is used in a self-deprecating fashion in a reference to Social gadfly - which tells us the word may be uttered in a pejorative sense, while at the same time be accepted as a description of honourable work or civic duty - my emphasis.--Cerejota (talk) 23:34, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I have updated the article at Meta, please check it out and tell me if my effort at clarity was successful .--Cerejota (talk) 23:57, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Splendid, the alteration sounds much more inviting. It is almost like being a PA for other editors, which does sound fascinating and at the same time an intriguing role to be a part of. May I ask, this wouldn't affect my role in working on the WP:ESC projects by chance? As that project is something that I find dear to me, as it is about an annual event that I have become a huge fan of, and enjoy assisting other on that very project. Wesley Mouse (talk) 00:58, 14 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

We are largely self-directed volunteers, so it wouldn't affected at all - you are not compelled to do to or not anything and can come and go as you please - with an eye of course to the fact that ultimately all of our actions should be geared towards improving the encyclopedia. m:Wikiphilosophy is a personal choice thing, not a rule or guide, but simply a way some editors use as a meta-identity or use as a way to understand other editor's actions, and sometimes some editors are viewed using these terms while denying them (for example, there are very few editors who claim to be "deletionists" compared to how many are seen as such by others).--Cerejota (talk) 01:09, 14 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Good Friend Award
I would like to take this opportunity to award Cerejota this award for helping with a resent WQA case that I was subject to. Some comments/advice that you gave have been really helpful, and you've inspired me to do what I can for other Wikipedians by being there and showing no matter if we're new or old to Wikipedia, we are all equal. Wesley Mouse (talk) 19:47, 15 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Arbitration

You are involved in a recently filed request for arbitration. Please review the request at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests#User:La goutte de pluie and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. Additionally, the following resources may be of use—

Thanks,OpenInfoForAll (talk) 22:40, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Questionnaire

Hi there, I wonder if you would be interested in helping me with my research on Wikipedia. I am writing a dissertation on Wikipedia as part of my undergraduate course at the University of Cambridge. What I am asking is for you to complete a questionnaire with a number of general, subjective questions about your experiences working on Wikipedia, for example concerning Wikipedia's culture, your motivation in participating and so on. It should take 10-20 minutes. Participants will be anonymous if requested. More information is available if you are interested. Thanks! I really appreciate any time you can give! Thedarkfourth (talk) 07:03, 14 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sure always willing to help, but how do I know who you are and if you are who you claim to be? :)--Cerejota (talk) 07:44, 14 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Dear Thedarkfourth,
you should talk to the Wikimedia Foundation before making requests for surveys. If this is a haphazard, convenience sample, it is nearly worthless for drawing inferences, also.
Sincerely,  Kiefer.Wolfowitz 09:56, 14 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

ANI

Thanks for the input, I see the problem there and will definitely step carefully in debates like these in the future. Valenciano (talk) 20:48, 14 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Awesome! I have some experience in controversial areas of ethno/geographic conflict, and I have learned both from my mistakes and those of others.--Cerejota (talk) 20:53, 14 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

shiney present - thanks

The Barnstar of Diplomacy
a shiny star for you User:Cerejota for your diplomatic, and tension reducing comment in a Wikiquette assistance thread involving me - and for all of your efforts to resolve disputes in a similar manner across the project - thank you. - Off2riorob (talk) 01:57, 15 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, this is unexpected and appreciated :) --Cerejota (talk) 02:00, 15 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

wqa

A bully get to run around swearing, telling he only does it his way and not Wikipedia's and I'm told I'm to blame and an idiot aka "idiosyncratic". I thought Wikipedia:Wikiquette assistance was to help an editor deal with another editor and not a battleground. I thought somebody would actually look at the talk page and article before I made a comment on the behavior. Nobody wants to comment directly what was said and help me on what to do when another editor does the same thing. Being told to fuck off and being a bully is perfectly fine now. You really, really have no idea how this entire episode has hurt me. Why do I clean out Category:Biography_articles_without_living_parameter? Why do I do anything? Bgwhite (talk)

Perhaps the best place to air this is WQA. That said, I am sympathetic to your view - no one likes to feel bullied, however, as I did in WQA, I think the best way to proceed is to separate you and Off2riorob, because both of your work is important, clearly you two cannot work together in a positive manner - who is to "blame" is unfortunately irrelevant. Off2riobob admits this at WQA. I apologize that "idiosyncratic" was offensive, I didn't intent it to be - but I remain hopeful you will work with us (the community) to achieve a level of comfort for you, without the need to be punitive. I might have other things to say and propose, but not in my talk page, WQA is the appropriate forum. --Cerejota (talk) 03:59, 15 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Close the thing. This mess is sort of like a rape trial... try to dig dirt on the accuser and only blame the victim. So what have I learned. New editors get reprimand for the same behavior, experience editors with repeat behavior don't because experienced editors have friends. You can't tell a joke, but you can tell someone to fuck off, unless it's in your own talk page comments. You can be overtly hostile, but you can't report overt hostility. Including this, I've been told the past couple of months, I'm an admin, your not, so get lost and I've got over 100,000 edits so don't tell me what to do. The first real article I tried to work on, Talk:Chesterfield, Idaho was a disaster. Overt hostility, intimidation and bullying continues unabated... Bgwhite (talk) 21:38, 17 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!

Thanks for the barnstar! I started to lose count of the hours I spent looking at and prod'ing articles by User:Marshallsumter. It's nice that we've got a team working on it.AstroCog (talk) 10:58, 15 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have any opinion on this subject?

I've requested User:Reaper Eternal review my wikicareer and decide if I might one day be ready to wield a mop. I'm wondering what sorts of things you think I should do in order to further prepare myself for the task of mopping. Do you mind commenting here on your talk page? BusterD (talk) 13:21, 15 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

For all I care, you have a Moptm with your name on it - I think you answered the question yourself in that message to R_E; my only suggestion is to get a bit more up on the theory of policy (ie specially the obscure stuff the wikilawyers love) and to do more huggle/RCP/NPP anti-vandal stuff, just to both build confidence and experience with the tools - not to mention the spidey sense that tells you WP:DUCK and WP:IAR are at play. Just don't go powermad when you get the Janitorial Honors :P--Cerejota (talk) 13:30, 15 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the encouragement. I think my weakness is little experience with RC. I don't like looking at the datastream like a firehose, though I'm sure that's exactly what many admins take on. I do think I have used tools responsibly in the past, and made a point of honestly resolving personal disputes as they have arisen. After the last month or two at AfD, I'm sure I can contribute in the arena of closing more contentious discussions. There's so much pagespace I want to work on and build, even if I didn't win community support, I wouldn't be particularly unhappy. I've been waiting a long time to submit myself to this test, and I appreciate your positive and encouraging answer. Please feel encouraged to peek over my shoulder and give advice. BusterD (talk) 13:40, 15 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
RC is not to be understimated as a way to build your confidence and self-ability: it puts you out of your comfort zone, exposes you to the best and worse of new editors, etc. AIV is well monitored, so if you get into trouble, protection is near. I also find the data stream and speed intimidating, but there is no shame in that. Some of the best lessons on how to handle conflict (which I still working on) I learned in RC, and I don't RC very frequently.--Cerejota (talk) 13:53, 15 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect

Done. SlimVirgin TALK|CONTRIBS 14:25, 15 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!--Cerejota (talk) 14:26, 15 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Revert at WP:TITLE

Please explain/discuss this revert at Wikipedia talk:Article_titles#primary_topic. Thanks. --Born2cycle (talk) 20:04, 17 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Responded there.--Cerejota (talk) 04:53, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Kefalonia

Hiya, I reverted your move, because it should really go through RM. Once an official Requested Move has closed, the article usually shouldn't be moved again unless it goes through another WP:RM. --Elonka 00:55, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Cool, as I said, I was WP:IAR, so no problem. --Cerejota (talk) 00:56, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

RfC

I find it kind of amusing that you simultaneously note an under-representation of women on ArbCom while calling Risker a "he". :) 28bytes (talk) 20:33, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

OH SHIT! didn't know. I always assume he because this here wiki-wiki thingy is sausage party. :p--Cerejota (talk) 15:58, 20 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Willing to help out

Cerejota,

I am a great admirer of Tony the Marine's contributions to Wikipedia, and I would like to help with any articles dealing with Puerto Rico. Please let me know if I can be of any help.

Nelsondenis248 (talk) 20:44, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Join us at WP:PUR, we sure could use some help!--Cerejota (talk) 15:56, 20 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello. As a Spanish-speaking WikiGnome, I'd like to solicit your help in testing a new tool. For a few years now, the Red Link Recovery Project has been using the Red Link Recovery Live tool to track down and fix unnecessarily red links in articles. Recently, the tool has been expanded to work on non-English Wikipedias. A small set of suggested fixes for red-links on the Spanish-language Wikipedia have been prepared and I'm hoping to interest some Spanish-language speakers (such as yourself) to work through them.

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Archiving problems

Sorry to bother you Cerejota, but I was wondering if you'd be able to assist me with a problem I'm having on my user talk page. CT Cooper kindly set up an archive box for me, with an automated archiver 'MiszaBot' to transfer things that were 10 days old. However, I noticed a few other talk pages with archiving that was set for monthly/yearly archive pages, and attempted to reconfigure my own archive to do similar. However, I feel I may have followed the instructions from the archive help page, incorrectly. Would it be possible for yourself to take a look on my behalf, and fix anything that needs fixing? I am truly grateful for any help on this matter. Kindest regards - Wesley Mouse (talk) 02:22, 21 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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I know you've been very helpfully concerned with this before, and you may want to comment at his talk p. on the user's recent editing activity, & perhaps on the appropriateness of the level 3 warning I just issued. DGG ( talk ) 02:21, 25 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Need your help

You mentioned at VPR that some of the outlines are atrocious. If you would be so kind as to point them out to me, I will do my best to clean them up and improve them.

Also, what types of things have you noticed that need fixing? So I can keep a keener eye looking out for them.

I look forward to your reply. Thank you for getting involved at WP:VPR. Sincerely, The Transhumanist 20:43, 2 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Disclosure of previous accounts during RfA

Hi Cerejota You participated in a discussion I initiated Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_adminship&oldid=450620729#Moving_to_the_general, which seemed to reach general consensus that it would be a good idea for Admin candidates to be at least forthcoming about whether they had previously edited under different usernames, and for the conduct under that name to be taken into account (whether by public scrutiny or the report of a bureaucrat).

Although there seemed to be essentially agreement with my suggestions, I see that the discussion has now been archived and - as far as I am aware - no policy rulings have been made as a result. What is the procedure for proposing that the suggestion be formally adopted? DaveApter (talk) 11:08, 4 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Mystery

Please solve this mystery if you can...

On September 23rd, traffic to Portal:James Bond doubled, and has stayed at the new level since then. I can't figure out what happened.

See http://stats.grok.se/en/201109/Portal%3AJames_Bond

Traffic to Outline of James Bond stayed the same (though it was at the higher-level already), which leads me to suspect changes made somewhere in Wikipedia.

See http://stats.grok.se/en/201109/Outline%20of%20James_Bond

I'd like to find out what happened, in case it reveals helpful link placement tips that can double the traffic to outlines too!

I look forward to your reply on my talk page. The Transhumanist 23:00, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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R-f-C/See you real soon/K-e-y/Why? because we like you

Hi Cerejota!

Please see my RfC, where you have been cited, first by two energetic Wikipedians and then by me in discussion.

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