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I would like to kindly request that page be undeleted and moved into the article space (at [[Carla Medina]]). Notability appeared to have been asserted, so that does not appear to be a problem. The other IP editor who created the page probably should have gone about the creation via the appropriate process, [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation]]. However, since this page appears to be legitimate, I figured this request was worthwhile. Please get back to me. Thanks. [[Special:Contributions/76.254.122.124|76.254.122.124]] ([[User talk:76.254.122.124|talk]]) 19:43, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
I would like to kindly request that page be undeleted and moved into the article space (at [[Carla Medina]]). Notability appeared to have been asserted, so that does not appear to be a problem. The other IP editor who created the page probably should have gone about the creation via the appropriate process, [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation]]. However, since this page appears to be legitimate, I figured this request was worthwhile. Please get back to me. Thanks. [[Special:Contributions/76.254.122.124|76.254.122.124]] ([[User talk:76.254.122.124|talk]]) 19:43, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
:Hi. I have restored it to [[Carla Medina]], but there are some problems with it. Firstly, I don't think it contains a sufficient indication of importance, so someone might request [[WP:CSD|speedy deletion]] for reason A7. Next, it has no sources, and all [[WP:BLP|biographical]] articles must have at least one source or they can be deleted according to [[:WP:BLPPROD]]. So you'll really need to do a little work on it to prevent its deletion. -- [[User:Boing! said Zebedee|Boing! said Zebedee]] ([[User talk:Boing! said Zebedee|talk]]) 20:26, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
:Hi. I have restored it to [[Carla Medina]], but there are some problems with it. Firstly, I don't think it contains a sufficient indication of importance, so someone might request [[WP:CSD|speedy deletion]] for reason A7. Next, it has no sources, and all [[WP:BLP|biographical]] articles must have at least one source or they can be deleted according to [[:WP:BLPPROD]]. So you'll really need to do a little work on it to prevent its deletion. -- [[User:Boing! said Zebedee|Boing! said Zebedee]] ([[User talk:Boing! said Zebedee|talk]]) 20:26, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
::There appears to be some evidence of notability. There is an article about her at [[es:Carla Medina]]. I know that there is a template that tells editors to expand with material from the corresponding article at the other wiki, however, I do not know what the name of that template is. If you could insert it, I'd appreciate it. Thanks. [[Special:Contributions/76.254.122.124|76.254.122.124]] ([[User talk:76.254.122.124|talk]]) 00:48, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
::There appears to be some evidence of notability. There is an article about her at [[es:Carla Medina]]. I know that there is a template that tells editors to expand with material from the corresponding article at the other wiki (and to translate it if they have knowledge in the other language), however, I do not know what the name of that template is. If you could insert it, I'd appreciate it. Thanks. [[Special:Contributions/76.254.122.124|76.254.122.124]] ([[User talk:76.254.122.124|talk]]) 00:48, 20 May 2012 (UTC), modified 00:50, 20 May 2012 (UTC)


== Again...this time in "Jerash Governorate" article ==
== Again...this time in "Jerash Governorate" article ==

Revision as of 00:50, 20 May 2012

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April 2012

Your assistance is requested

It has moved to my talk page, after I closed the ANI [1] as being a content dispute for No Country for Old Men (film). Ring Cinema and JTBX, both of which have multiple blocks for warring in their past, RC in particular. There may be others involved indirectly. There are a couple things in the histories that bug me, RC has a lot of activity reverting on the article, maybe ownish, maybe just protecive. I will let you draw you own conclusions on J. I tried to get them to go to DR, and have it at a low to medium boil, but something is setting off my Spidey sense, but I don't know what I'm missing. I also invited a 3rd party they both seem to like to the article talk page, but too soon for a reply. Maybe it does need to go back to ANI, maybe I was right and DR should handle it (even though they seem more interested in bickering). I'm not sure. They have also involved EdJohnston on his talk page, which has been about as ineffective. They are both badgering each other in talk and reverting, carefully staying under the threshold. RC seems to have a friend or two, but I'm not sure if that is because his points are more valid or just been around more. I'm not expecting you to jump in, just asking advice. Then again, if you think the best solution IS to jump in, I will not be offended in anyway, and would welcome it. You aren't going to hurt my pride, I just want a solution, and we are reaching the limits of my previous experience, so it is time to learn instead. Dennis Brown - © 00:51, 30 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I did my part already by closing Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RRArchive184#User:Ring Cinema reported by User:JTBX (Result: Protected). None of my efforts at diplomacy have had much effect. JTBX seems to be behaving the worst at the moment. When I closed the 3RR, I recommended that the parties ask the opinion of User:Gareth Griffith-Jones on any further changes they wanted to make. It appears that Ring Cinema was willing to follow this plan but JTBX would not. It seems to me that JTBX and RingCinema both broke 3RR at No Country for Old Men (film) on April 27. (That violation, it it is one, is now stale). If any admin is thinking of blocks we may be getting closer to that. I prefer not to take more admin actions on this (will let someone else have a turn). EdJohnston (talk) 01:36, 30 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I was debating contacting you on your page Ed, didn't want to stir the pot and get Boing involved without his consent, since they would see it pretty quick. Figured you would see it here or I would email you if you didn't come here tonight. You've had a rough go of it, too. Both of these guys like to fight, be it each other or anyone else, and seem to be admin shopping. FC's block history is more recent (and he seems to be wikilawyering a bit), and I don't know User:Gareth Griffith-Jones, so will just trust you. I have doubts that will work, it has already been breached. I'm not sure how an interaction ban would work, but could probably get the support at ANI for it, assuming that is where we go for that type of ban. I haven't participated in one before. I felt I did the right thing by closing at ANI at that time as they are both badgering each other but not to the level I would block and content seemed to be the issue. Both of your opinions on my decision would be appreciated: its the only way I can learn. I'm just at a loss as to what direction to push them in. I've told them DRN, but having second thoughts and beginning to thing stronger action is needed against both of them equally, ie: interaction ban. Dennis Brown - © 01:57, 30 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Dennis, your conclusion to the ANI was fine. In practice it is hard to get interaction bans approved unless the two parties voluntarily agree to it. Straight blocks are easier to get support for. Any such block should (in my opinion) be preceded by a final warning; for example, not to continue edit warring on film summaries. EdJohnston (talk) 04:31, 30 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

May 2012

I have been here for a while and want to improve myself. Though I try my best to do the right thing, I may do something wrong. As you have seen me work, can you please leave me a review as I want to know where I stand so far and what should I improve to be a good editor. Your opinion has always been valuable and your review can help. Thanks :) Yasht101 08:24, 9 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, haven't had time yet - will pop over and offer a few thoughts as soon as I do. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 21:16, 13 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Redaloes, again

It is less than 24 hours since you took a look at the Redaloes problem. The issues regarding that contributor are continuing and they appear not to want to respond to guidance etc. In fact, more often than not they are just reinstating citations etc which were removed for reasons that have been explained to them. Do you think that they might respond to you? We need to get some dialogue going here, even if that means a short block in an attempt to get their attention. - Sitush (talk) 10:12, 9 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, good cop/bad cop, eh? I've left a message. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 10:28, 9 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Good cop/good cop might work in this instance. If two people are commenting then perhaps they will respond. If not, then there is little that I can do about it. - Sitush (talk) 11:24, 9 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Carrot first :-) -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 11:31, 9 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Historyfeelings sockpuppetry

Could you please investigate Historyfeelings for sockpuppetry. Please the contributions made to the articles "Jordan" and "Jerash" for using different IP addresses.

Historyfeelings is involved in IP sockpuppetry using not only two, but three IP addresses in addition to his/her user account. The first IP address is 46.185.160.11, which he used in the edit war in "Jerash" article and the IP address 46.185.138.244 in the edit war on "Jordan" article to evade his/her account blocking.

These two different IP addressees in addition, to a third IP address 94.249.93.242, which he used to communicate with you, while he was blocked. please see the changes to the two articles made in during the edit war.

Here are the details:

In "Jerash" article:

In "Jordan" article:

Regards Banimustafa (talk) 16:24, 9 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You need to file a report at WP:SPI -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 16:29, 9 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Help

Hey, I was wondering if you could help sort these Stooshe ‎page moves/cut and paste jobs - [2]? The pages just needed moving to the correct name (lowercase 's' on the 'she' bit), but User:AlligatorSky created new articles, copy and pasted the contents of the original articles to them and then redirected the original articles. - JuneGloom Talk 16:48, 9 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I'm afraid that as AlligatorSky has gone on to make more edits to the articles after the copy and paste move, it will require someone who knows how to merge article histories to fix them, and that's something I don't know how to do - if you ask at WP:ANI someone should be able to help. In the meantime I'll inform AlligatorSky of their errors. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 16:54, 9 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Looks like it's only Stooshe itself - I've been able to do Love Me (Stooshe song) -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 17:08, 9 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I've put in a request at WP:ANI for someone to help. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 17:18, 9 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Apologies for the situation I have now put you in as an editor, I haven't had much experience in 'moving' articles from one title to another; but thank you for directing me to the guide on the subject and for informing me of my mistake - won't happen again. AlligatorSky (talk) 19:16, 9 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
No problem, it happens all the time - the copyright requirements aren't at all intuitive ;-) Someone will sort it out easily enough. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 18:22, 9 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for all your help! I did consider going to WP:ANI, but wasn't quite sure if that was the right place. Unfortunately for you, I then spotted your name on recent changes and you got the request for help. :) - JuneGloom Talk 21:11, 9 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Should be all sorted now; let me know if I'm wrong and I screwed it up worse. --Floquenbeam (talk) 21:12, 9 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
All looks good, thanks - teamwork in action! -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 21:19, 9 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

I just wanted to leave a note to thank you for your help and for giving me the benefit of the doubt. I've archived my talk page (I think I did it right) and am looking forward being a productive member of the community. 214.13.69.132 (talk) 05:36, 10 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, happy to help. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 07:50, 10 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much for your trust :)--H•f Talk to me 21:47, 10 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ending Edit War In Jerash and Jordan Articles

As I am trying to avoid edit waring with Historyfeelings (H.F), do you suggest a mechanism, where a third party can check the references used in the article and validates the claims made by the two parties based on the references cited in the article. From my side, I am happy to provide additional verifiable references upon request to prove my point of view.

In "Jordan" article I think the issue is much simpler, I do not mind if Historyfeelings add his own picture "A mountain in Sakib" provided that he/she stop deleting the picture which I added about "olive farms in Souf". However, I suggest that his/her picture to be added to more relevant section in the article as the section is about agriculture, while his picture is more sensible to be added to nature or tourism.

Thank you for your attention. Banimustafa (talk) 23:37, 10 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What you need to do is explain what you want to change on the Talk page of each article, and present your references there, and then leave it for other people who are watching the article to comment and see what consensus forms. If nobody else comments after a few days, I'll ask for help from a suitable project. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 08:36, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Review of edit war on Nambudiri, please

Hi Boing!; I'm asking you and Salvio giuliano, as admins who sometimes handle India caste-related issues, to review an edit war at Nambudiri. Two users, one of whom I have a well known on-wiki relationship with, were edit warring. I fully protected the article for 24 hours to stop the edit warring, but it may be that blocks are appropriate (both editors crossed 3RR). While I felt that protecting the article was safe under WP:INVOLVED, I don't think I can make a fair blocking decision. Thanks for your assistance. Qwyrxian (talk) 14:55, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, probably a bit involved here myself. But now that you've gone for article protection, I don't see that blocks are needed - I'd suggest you have a word with both of them on their Talk pages and ask them to discuss their differences on the article Talk page -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 16:15, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Most of my reverts are of copyvios and therefore exempt. However, I have been trying to sort out issues with Ashley thomas80's contributions to that article on their own talk page and, frankly, I seem not to be getting very far. - Sitush (talk) 16:30, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
OK, best leave protection in force for now, I think - can you provide diffs of each copyvio addition and the sources they were copied from? -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 16:45, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

WP:TLDR time, sorry, but you did ask ...

The problems relate to both sources but are most significant regarding Pullapilly. For example, the first insertion includes

According to historians, Nambudiris migration to Kerala started in considerable numbers during the period of brahminic revival inaugurated by Sankarachararya (788-820) and continued by Kumarilambhattan, Sanbandhamoorthi, Parasuraman and many others. However, brahmanic influence in South India dated as far back as 1st century AD as there are numerous mentions of it in Sangham Literature

whilst Pullapilly says (p. 28)

The Namboothiris started to arrive in Kerala in considerable numbers during the period of the Brahminic revival inaugurated by Sri Sankaracharya (788-820) and continued by Kumarilambhattan, Sanbandhamoorthi, Parasuraman and many others. Brahminic influence in South India dated as far back as 1st century AD as there are numerous mentions of it in the Tamil Sagham literature of between the first and fourth centuries of the Christian era.

The same edit also says

Socially, they effected a complete transformation in many ways. Introduction of the caste system with the Nambudiris ...

whilst Pullapilly says (p. 29)

Socially, they effected a complete transformation in various ways. Introduction of the caste system was one.

Some of the other bits are close paraphrases.

The stuff is reinstated here, along with Indic scripts that had also been previously removed for reasons explained to AshLey. I could have fixed the copyvio but there was no point: a piece based on Pullapilly already existed at Caste system in Kerala, which I subsequently introduced and modified to suit, starting with this edit. AshLey then removed that & inserted some close paraphrasing as a replacement, with a quite bizarre edit summary of "weasel removed, exact copy of texts from copy righted source removed". And so it carried on ...

The close paraphrasing additions were better than the outright copyvio but completely unnecessary given the copy/paste from Caste system in Kerala. I think that probably AshLey was just determined "not to lose" by this stage. I had templated them and then posted several further messages at User_talk:Ashley_thomas80#May_2012 before getting a response there, although AshLey did take a pop on my talk page with an inappropriate warning etc. - Sitush (talk) 17:16, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It is one of many examples of problems that I am having, eg: Talk:Caste system in Kerala#Journal of Kerala Studies. I keep having to walk away for a bit but when I come back to an article we are straight back in there, dealing with issues of policy/guidelines/common sense. I appreciate that they are a fairly new user but each time I try to explain things at this or that forum, it seems not to sink in. The most recent example of poor contributions has been commented on here, and I studiously avoided naming names. In that instance, I also had to rewrite the contribution because it was initially close paraphrasing and later misrepresented what the sources said, as well as re-introducing some minor format issues etc that I had only just fixed. None of this, aside from the copyvio, is earth-shattering stuff and it can all be taught etc ... but my head keeps hitting a wall ;) I am leaving it again now because the frustration is apparent in my responses, and that is not a good thing. - Sitush (talk) 21:25, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
You are correct that unambiguous copyright violations are an exception to 3RR; the second example you list above is definitely unambiguous, and the first is very close. My problem is that if I make the call (especially if the call is to block only the party working against Sitush), it obviously seems very biased. So, rather than provide that type of ammunition to the other side, I figured I'd do the lightest thing I could (protection, especially on a version where Sitush wasn't the last editor) then let someone else figured out the details. I'll leave a note (if there isn't one) about copyvios on the other users talk page, as well as a prod to start/join discussions. Qwyrxian (talk) 23:07, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I have no problem with the full protection of Nambudiri, nor Q's passing on of the issue to other admins for consideration. It is certain that others would have handled the situation in a different, and probably better, manner than I have done.

I am afraid that a part of the issue is that this involvement between myself and the other party extends beyond one article. AshLey has a lot of useful knowledge and I really do not want to see this thing end in a bad way. The knowledge etc just needs to be channeled.

Trying to view things from the other side of the fence, one of the problems with these articles is something that has been raised by several admins over at least the last twelve months: many of the articles are contentious, often in the systemic sense, and although there are a growing number of admins who are prepared to take a look at the numerous issues without becoming involved, the net result tends to be that they have a personal involvement with either myself or a couple of others. This then causes issues such as that which are stated at the start of this thread, which is fundamentally one of being accused of cabalism. It is a rocky road and I appreciate that travelling it can be awkward. I think that it would be beneficial to inform Ashley thomas80 of this discussion but perhaps it would be better coming from someone other than me? - Sitush (talk) 00:25, 12 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have made User:Ashley thomas80 aware of this discussion. EdJohnston (talk) 00:45, 12 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for doing that. - Vadakkekara, Benedict (2007). Origin of Christianity in India: a Historiographical Critique. Delhi: Media House. pp. 325–330.. (talk) 00:52, 12 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the invitation EdJohnston and thanks for the guidance Qwyrxian. First of all, I admit that the phrasing of my contributions, closely followed the source, at least in one sentence, but I have observed the same practice with many established writers. For example, in the book of Harold Coward (Hindu Christian Dialogue), a few important points are almost the same in text and phrase as in the book of Duncan Forrester. Let'us analyse the present version of Wikipedia article Nambudiri:

  1. The present version of Nambudiri, contributed by Sitush, says:

    Cyriac Pullapilly has noted a theory that the Nambudiris are associated by some with the development of the caste system in Kerala...

    But in the source, Pullapilly narrates the theory as:

    ...The other theory hold that it was the Namboothiri Brahmins who introduced the caste system in Kerala...

    This style of presentation fails to convey the readers of the actual information. In order to avoid such misguiding narration, I had to follow the source so closely in some sentences.
  2. Again, it says:

    ...there was a large influx of these people from around the 8th-century when they acted as priests.

    where as the source mentions "in considerable numbers". Namudiris are less than 0.5 percent of Kerala population, and this "large influx" is misguiding. Moreover, the inference from source is that the migration was a continuing process and reached a climax between 7th and 10th centuries. Here also our article fails follow the source.
  3. Next:

    At the time of their arrival the non-aboriginal local population had been converted to Buddhism by missionaries who had come from the north of India and from Ceylon.

    But the source only says the civilized population of the area had become Budhists by the "influence" of missionaries. Here, I'm afraid, the usage of the word "conversion" is misleading in the Indian context. Moreover, the source in Page:26 says that there were some Syrian Christians in Kerala, who were non-aboriginals and here too the article is bit misleading and incomplete.
  4. In the next sentence, our article says

    The Brahmins used their symbiotic relationship with the invading forces to assert their beliefs and position.

    But, it is incomplete and fails to explain how?
  5. In the next sentence of Wiki article:

    Buddhist temples and monasteries were either destroyed or taken over for use in Hindu practices, thus undermining the ability of the Buddhists to propagate their beliefs.

    But the last clause is not inferred anywhere in the source. However source explains many vulgar tricks of Nambudiris in order to "drive away" the Budhists.--AshLey Msg 12:25, 12 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I and talk have involved in content dispute in many articles related to India and caste. Even though, I appreciate his experience with Wikipedia and it's policies, the case might be of a bit loss Good Faith(mutually). Since he also has mentioned our issues related to other articles, I think, it's better to sort it out here. --AshLey Msg 14:59, 12 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
No, my Talk page is definitely not the appropriate place for this. For disagreements on article content, please discuss on the article Talk pages, or perhaps use the project Talk page to get input from a wider range of people. For general disputes between two editors, you should use your own Talk pages, or if that does not work, have a read of the Dispute Resolution process to find a suitable venue to continue. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 15:31, 12 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Got it, and replied -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 21:15, 13 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Rajput

Since you protected the thing, just a note to let you know that I have absolutely ripped into Rajput during the last few minutes. The problems (few footnotes/big and obscure list of sources) had been tagged since July 2010 and I tried to move things along a little between July and December by tagging for specific cites/unreferenced sections etc. Nothing changed, so I've binned the tagged stuff and we'll have to start over. Amazingly, this crock of crap currently shows ratings ranging from 4.3 to 4.7. Clear evidence, in my mind, that this satisfied the vanity of a readership even though it was hopeless as an encyclopedic article. It still is, in many respects. - Sitush (talk) 19:27, 13 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, it clearly needed a good overhaul - good luck with it! -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 19:32, 13 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Orunim

Why did you delete my page Orunim. Can you please explain? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Isfarahmad (talkcontribs) 06:29, 14 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. The article about the company Orunim was deleted because it gave no indication as to why the company is important enough for an encyclopedia article - ultimately it needs to satisfy the notability requirements of WP:NCORP. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 07:07, 14 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Stho002

I've answered your request on my talk page. I hope what I have said is helpful. Let me know if you have any other questions or requests related to it. JamesBWatson (talk) 09:05, 14 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there BOING, VASCO here,

lost for words, the vandal from Montenegro (User:Steadyfingers or User:Aciyokrocky) continues to attack the page, gluing all the sentences (that's vandalism no?) and remove stuff in BOX (that's vandalism FOR SURE), shall we take page protection up a notch? Also, disgruntled that we don't let him use the copyrighted image he uploads, he takes revenge by removing the other (and please note it was not i who uploaded the current one)!

Attentively, happy week and thanks in advance - --Vasco Amaral (talk) 17:34, 14 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Vasco. Yes, it's strange the way he keeps messing up the formatting and removing the photo like that. I've semi-protected it for a month, so we'll see if that discourages him. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 18:13, 14 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 14 May 2012

note

Hello, can you please revert this edit you've blocked the person but you haven't revert the edit.

references for my point of view: at this article (the second paragraph in one of the most famous newspaper in Jordan called:Addustour) here

and at this book Here shows that the name of Jerash abandoned for Sakib. thanks a lot --HF 00:42, 15 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No, I am taking neither side in your edit war - discuss it on the article's talk page, offer your evidence there, and wait and see what the consensus says. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 07:00, 15 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
That's so fine. --HF 13:18, 15 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well deserved praise.

Just in case you aren't stalking my talk page, I thought I would call your attention to this edit. JamesBWatson (talk) 07:50, 15 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, that's nice. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 07:52, 15 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Nair

Glad you spotted that: it is the second there in a pretty short space of time. - Sitush (talk) 20:59, 15 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The IP range locates to Mumbai. I don't know much about rangeblocks, but I suspect there'd be too much collateral damage. Best just to revert and ignore such idiots, I guess. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 21:14, 15 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Can you have a word, please

This edit is the latest insertion by User:Chauhan1192, despite an ongoing discussion, despite being reverted by others and despite quite a lengthy series of messages on their talk page. I have some doubts about the "newness" of the contributor because the pattern rings a bell somewhere but, regardless of that, this needs input from someone other than me. - Sitush (talk) 17:13, 16 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've added a note to their Talk page, and I'm now watching the article. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 17:50, 16 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Ta. I do have a proposal to make on the article talk page but I'd rather give it a few more hours: all hell may break loose when I submit it, and I need to be in the right frame of mind. - Sitush (talk) 18:04, 16 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I can recommend a nice hoppy beer that might do the trick ;-) -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 18:07, 16 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I am on antibiotics again at the moment :( Joseph Holt have introduced yet another new bottled beer, called Maple Moon. It really is quite different: although it is another golden ale, it has a definite smoky finish. You never know, someone might supply you with a bottle sometime (3 for £6 this month). - Sitush (talk) 18:16, 16 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Ooh, if that's not a call to Manchester, I don't know what is :-) -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 18:24, 16 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, I've got the wrong name: Maple Moon is an existing brew, Maple Gold is the new one. The description is correct. - Sitush (talk) 18:34, 16 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
And to get back on topic, the user has today continued their non-compliant edits to articles, despite the issues being explained to them. Aside from not being compliant per WP:Copying within Wikipedia etc, most of the additions are of material that has been discussed extensively on the various articles & thus they are operating against consensus. I've just reverted them all for these reasons. Their talk page is becoming somewhat incomprehensible due to selective deletion of comments, and mine is filling up with comments by them that really should be on article talk pages (as I have explained, more than once). - Sitush (talk) 08:37, 17 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
He's made another unsourced change since your final warning, so I've issued a short block. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 09:06, 17 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
OK. BTW, I floated the suggestion that I referred to above. No fireworks yet, but it is something that Chauhan1192 probably really should comment on. As you can see from their recent edits, this issue of Chauhan Gurjar/Rajput origins transcends many articles: we have to start somewhere but I guess that it will end up being RfC'd/DRN'd or similar precisely because it does affect quite a few articles. There is a lot of puffery and rivalry going on, but given that these are Indian community articles etc I guess that is like saying beer is wet. - Sitush (talk) 09:29, 17 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
He's only got 24 hours, so he can join in the discussion tomorrow. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 09:31, 17 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Banned User stho002 possibly attempting to influence Wikipedia.

Hi,

I recieved a rather long message on my talk page that I believe may be a result of stho002 emailing people on Wikipedia to give them his point of view on topics of interest to him. If I understand correectly this type of behavior may be in breach of his edit block. user:Dyanega is a specialist in insects and has never had any interest in turtles. He suddenly appears on this subject when stho002 has been banned. He has made many of the same unfounded accusations that stho002 made against me some 18 months ago, issues that were investigated at the time by admins and I was found to have done nothing wrong. At the time user:ZooPro gave me a precautionary warning to ensure I was careful about wp:NPOV. This was history though. I would appreciate it if this could be checked on. cheers, Faendalimas talk 23:55, 17 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take a closer look later (I have a busy day today), but for now I've blocked email access. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 07:08, 18 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Karma Kingdom

Hello Sir I have created here yesterday a page related karma kingdom.Karma kingdom is first game based on Indian Mythology and supports to charity.Here is my question that why have you deleted this page. I have not used there any wrong language or any wrong comment then what is the reason behind this.As i know Wikipedia this is the database about knowledge of any type.So why why why you deleted this.....waiting for your reply..You can play this game in Facebook and Ibibo. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sachans9 (talkcontribs) 04:18, 18 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Wikipedia is not actually "the database about knowledge of any type", it is an encyclopedia of subjects that are considered sufficiently notable based on a set of rules. There was no indication in the article of why the game is important enough for a Wikipedia article - ultimately it would need to satisfy the notability requirements of WP:NWEB, which would, as a minimum, require the article to be cited from independent reliable sources talking about the game in a non-trivial way. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 07:06, 18 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Mark Wade

Hey, just saying, incase you didn't realise, I am the author of the page Mark Wade (rugby league). I am requesting that it be deleted as the player hasn't played first-grade & after leaving the Knights for a local club, won't ever be playing first-grade any time soon! Josh the newcastle fan (talk) 04:40, 18 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Somebody already declined your G7 (not me) on the grounds that other people have edited the article too, so you should request deletion at WP:AfD. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 07:00, 18 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Special Barnstar
Thanks for your contributions! SwisterTwister talk 16:32, 18 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

London's Anything and Everything

Hello,

you recently deleted my page 'London's Anything and Everything'

Can you explain to me why? I included a real life person, myself, which is the owner of London's Anything and Everything...

I await your reply

Kind regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by MrDjLucky (talkcontribs) 22:34, 18 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. There was no indication in the article of the company's importance. Ultimately, for an article on the company to survive, it would have to satisfy the notability requirements of WP:NCORP and be supported by reliable sources as described at WP:RS, so you might want to have a read of those. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 18:26, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Request to reverse decision to delete Garage Mahal Presents

Hi Boing! said Zebedee, I'd like to request to reverse decision to delete the Garage Mahal Presents entry. I feel I gave proper reasoning as to the importance of the page and would like to hear an explanation of why you disagreed. Much thanks. Vishallllll (talk) 17:43, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. There was no indication in the article of the company's importance. Ultimately, for an article on the company to survive, it would have to satisfy the notability requirements of WP:NCORP and be supported by reliable sources as described at WP:RS, so you might want to have a read of those. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 18:22, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello.

I would like to kindly request that page be undeleted and moved into the article space (at Carla Medina). Notability appeared to have been asserted, so that does not appear to be a problem. The other IP editor who created the page probably should have gone about the creation via the appropriate process, Wikipedia:Articles for creation. However, since this page appears to be legitimate, I figured this request was worthwhile. Please get back to me. Thanks. 76.254.122.124 (talk) 19:43, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I have restored it to Carla Medina, but there are some problems with it. Firstly, I don't think it contains a sufficient indication of importance, so someone might request speedy deletion for reason A7. Next, it has no sources, and all biographical articles must have at least one source or they can be deleted according to WP:BLPPROD. So you'll really need to do a little work on it to prevent its deletion. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 20:26, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
There appears to be some evidence of notability. There is an article about her at es:Carla Medina. I know that there is a template that tells editors to expand with material from the corresponding article at the other wiki (and to translate it if they have knowledge in the other language), however, I do not know what the name of that template is. If you could insert it, I'd appreciate it. Thanks. 76.254.122.124 (talk) 00:48, 20 May 2012 (UTC), modified 00:50, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Again...this time in "Jerash Governorate" article

I have just noted that the user Historyfeelings is also trying to promote Sakib in the article "Jerash Governorate". on the same fashion as the article "Jerash" and "Jordan". Please notice the difference in the article before Historyfeelings changes and compare it to the version after Historyfeelings made his promotion campaign to sakib.

The main picture in the article which was showing the map of the governorate is now replaced with a picture from sakib. The picture from Souf (as always) was replaced by a picture of Sakib (of course after deleting the legend which was describing that the picture was taken in Souf). Then, two pictures of sakib was added to take over the article after re-arranging other pictures in the article and make them less important....even the picture of Jerash which is the capital of the governorate was replaced with a picture from Sakib. This is what happened in "Jerash" article and also what happened in "Jordan" article .... and it is now happening in "Jerash Governorate" article for the same purpose. Banimustafa (talk) 19:43, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. It looks like that was done early last month, before the current discussions started, so I think we should wait until the discussions conclude and judge this article in that light. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 20:11, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I am happy to wait. Banimustafa (talk) 20:59, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
By the way... I made a comment about the newspaper source in Jerash article. please read my last contribution. Banimustafa (talk) 21:05, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion

You deleted "the brotherhood of the table" page. It has great significance to four people of the world. I would like the page put back. It had only been on for 1 hour before it was deleted. It is planned that there shall be additions to its content. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Reybryce (talkcontribs) 22:13, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If you carry on with nonsense like this, you will end up blocked. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 22:22, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]