User:BD2412/Archive 010

Status: Active. bd2412 T Dispute resolution clause: By posting on my user talk page, you agree to resolve all disputes that may arise from your interactions with me through the dispute resolution processes offered within the Wikipedia Community. BD2412 Note: If you are visiting to express concerns because I have edited your user page to fix a disambiguation link, please bear in mind: I assume that you have the link there because you wish to point readers to the proper term (e.g "I speak Greek" or "I am Greek"). It makes it much easier for those of us who are cleaning up disambiguation links from articles if there are fewer user pages cluttering up the "What links here" page. Cheers! BD2412 Archives By topic (prior to June 1, 2009): Articles-1st/Deletion-1st-2d/Law-1st-2d-3d-4th-5th Misc.-1st-2d-3d-4th/RfA-1st-2d-3d-4th/Tools-1st-2nd-3rd/Vandalism Dated (beginning June 1, 2009): 001-002-003-004-005-006-007-008-009-010-011-012-013-014-015 016-017-018-019-020-021-022-023-024-025-026-027-028-029-030 031-032-033-034-035-036-037-038-039-040-041-042-043-044-045 046-047-048-049-050-051-052-053-054-055-056-057-058 New York villages within towns The supreme standard for these placenames is WP:USPLACE, which I quote: If more than one place within the same county has the same name, and neither is the primary topic, specify the type of local government unit in parentheses before the comma (e.g., Callicoon (CDP), New York and Callicoon (town), New York, but not "Callicoon, New York (CDP)"). Since WP:CONLIMITED notes that localised discussions can't overturn project consensus, I'll continue moving USPLACE violations when I find them. Nyttend (talk) 12:57, 1 May 2013 (UTC) I answered on your talk page, but basically the short answer is that I am concerned about the disambiguation issue, not the page name issue. bd2412 T 23:58, 1 May 2013 (UTC) Please help Dear BD2412, could you please check the talk page of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robby_Robinson_(bodybuilder) and help to achieve fairness in materials put on article about Robby Robinson? I would like to hear your opinion if you also support that within a couple of days an article about a famous bodybuilding legend turned out into an article about a ... I do not even have words. All the previous contributions were deleted, not only those from me, and new ones are presented so misleading that people who know Mr Robinson and his life and achievements will never believe this is an article about him. Thak you. RRWM (talk) 00:38, 2 May 2013 (UTC) Sorry, but this is really outside of my area of expertise. Cheers! bd2412 T 00:57, 2 May 2013 (UTC) succession templates Hi BD2412, I get the impression you were trying to change something in the succession templates for the CRT (Chongqing Rail Transit) system, but I'm not sure what you were trying to do. You also mentioned the LUL system, which is in London, so completely unrelated. But if you need any help, let me know, I'm very familiar with these things so perhaps I can help. Azylber (talk) 08:44, 4 May 2013 (UTC) Greetings. The terminal stop on this particular line is Daxuecheng Station (Chongqing), but there are no working instructions for making the link point to this disambiguated page, so the result displays like it currently appears at pages like Qixinggang Station. Fixing this display while bypassing the disambiguation link would be great. Cheers! bd2412 T 12:31, 4 May 2013 (UTC) Ah ok. No problem. That can be fixed very easily, but not in the template Template:S-line/CRT right/1. To fix that type of problem, you need to edit this other template: Template:CRT stations. I've already fixed the problems, and reverted your changes in CRT right. Have you touched any other templates? Those changes would need to be reverted too. Azylber (talk) 17:06, 4 May 2013 (UTC) Nope, that was it. There really needs to be a more intuitive system for fixing disambiguation links in these templates, particularly those caused when a previously non-ambiguous page is moved in favor of a disambiguation page (which is what happened in this instance). bd2412 T 00:04, 5 May 2013 (UTC) It might not be very intuitive to disambiguators, but it is the simplest way to deal with this issue, and we don't have many pages needing disambiguation anyway. We can take care of it perfectly well within the trains wikiproject. If you decentralise the source for station names and article names relationship for each system, you're making everything else a lot more complicated, adding unnecessary parameters here and there and duplicating information. Seriously, a lot of thought has been put into this, and I don't think it makes sense to make everything a lot more complicated for the people working in this wikiproject, just for the sake of making things slightly easier for disambiguators that are not familiar with these templates. And really not much help is needed from disambiguators with these articles, as there is not that much disambiguation work to do in this wikiproject anyway. I hope this makes sense Azylber (talk) 03:11, 5 May 2013 (UTC) Proposed deletion of Francois Papillon The article Francois Papillon has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern: fails PORNBIO, no assertion of notability While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons. You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page. Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 16:16, 5 May 2013 (UTC) DC meetup & dinner on Saturday, May 11! Please join Wikimedia DC for a social meetup and dinner at Vapiano (near Farragut North/Farragut West) on Saturday, May 11 at 5:30 PM. All Wikipedia/Wikimedia and free knowledge/culture enthusiasts, regardless of editing experience, are welcome to attend! All ages welcome! For more information and to sign up, please see the meetup page. Hope to see you there! Kirill [talk] 23:01, 7 May 2013 (UTC) Good work! Is that sweet bean!?! For the positive work of redirecting three disambigious pages to Asian American article, I present to you this frozen dessert. May it fuel you in your future editing of articles that fall within the scope of WP:USAA. RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 23:32, 11 May 2013 (UTC) Thanks! bd2412 T 23:55, 11 May 2013 (UTC) There is an editor who needs guidance on appropriately creating disambiguation pages and appropriately using hatnotes Hello, BD2412. You may remember me from this discussion at Talk:Sexuality (disambiguation) when it was simply Talk:Sexuality. As I consider you an expert on disambiguation matters on Wikipedia, having seen you around and dealing with such matters, I am wondering if you feel that there is any way that you can help Jarble understand when to appropriately create a disambiguation page and when to appropriately add a hatnote. The editor often overtags, overlinks, adds inappropriate and/or redundant tags, links or hatnotes, and also often creates needless/redundant disambiguation pages. If you look at his talk page, you will see that he has been repeatedly advised and/or warned not to do these things. Some examples of him not seeing that there is a WP:PRIMARYTOPIC (and I am aware that this guideline was recently extensively discussed) are his edits to the Bladder page and to the Bladder (disambiguation) page (despite, that first time at the Bladder page, an editor stating in an edit summary that a primary topic was concluded), and his edits to the Sexual activity page that resulted in an overload of links being driven to it and you calling it "perhaps the most WP:DABCONCEPT page ever" before I redirected it back to where it was before. He also recently (today, May 13, in contrast to the May 14 Wikipedia time stamp of this post) redirected Sexual characteristics to Sexual characteristics (disambiguation), calling the redirect to the Sex organ article "misleading," a month after you redirected that page to the Sex organ article. The edit history of the Male genitalia page and of the Female genitalia page, including today, also show Jarble's odd interpretation of what should be a disambiguation page. Those pages redirect to Sex organ because the male genitalia and female genitalia are sex organs and that article already disambiguates the different types of sex organs; therefore, what Jarble has tried to maintain at the Male genitalia and Female genitalia pages is completely redundant, as I've stated when reverting him on those matters, but he doesn't seem to understand that. And here and here are examples of his redundant/excessive hatnotes that I've reverted at the Sex organ article. Furthermore, when he creates disambiguation pages, or wants something disambiguated, it's mostly because he's trying to have Wikipedia be more inclusive of non-human animal aspects. I don't know what else to state to him about these page/formatting issues. But because of the new notification system, the fact that I've mentioned and linked his name above, he will be aware of this message I've left you here. Flyer22 (talk) 00:53, 14 May 2013 (UTC) Mainly, I'm just trying to reduce the prevalence of misleading redirect pages on Wikipedia (where there isn't a clear primary topic for a particular redirect page). I created those two disambiguation pages because it was apparent to me that those disambiguation pages had no clear primary topic (i. e., it isn't clear which use of the word was most common in the English language). I think I understand your point now. Disambiguation pages should only be created when there is no clear "primary topic" for a given term, since the disambiguation pages could potentially be confusing for readers of Wikipedia, and distract them from the primary topic. Also, I think I may be misunderstanding the definition of "primary topic" as it applies to Wikipedia. Does it refer to the most common use of a term in the English language, or does it refer to something entirely different? Jarble (talk) 01:13, 14 May 2013 (UTC) In the cases I have complained about with regard to your edits, you are "fixing" things that don't need fixing and are not misleading. There isn't anything at all misleading about male genitalia and female genitalia redirecting to the Sex organ article, as I've clearly explained above. Creating a Male genitalia disambiguation page and a Female genitalia disambiguation page is completely redundant to the Sex organ article; that article already includes and therefore disambiguates those things. Like I stated, I honestly don't know what else to state to you about these page/formatting matters. I am hoping that someone can finally get you to understand what you are doing wrong. You still overlink, for example. Flyer22 (talk) 01:29, 14 May 2013 (UTC) Accidental overlinking isn't always easy to avoid. I don't usually read every single link in an article before adding another link, since it would be extremely tedious to do so, and I wish there were an easier way to detect redundant links in an article. Are there any automated tools that I can use to find redundant links in an article, and avoid the accidental creation of redundant links? Jarble (talk) 01:44, 14 May 2013 (UTC) Flyer22, please review WP:DABCONCEPT. We do not create disambiguation pages for broad topics. The existence of a disambiguation page implies that the terms on the page are wholly unrelated, except for a shared name - for example, the planet Mercury, the element Mercury, and the god Mercury. They can not be collectively referred to as "Mercuries" for any reason other than to group together all things referred to by the word "Mercury". By contrast, while it is true that "male genitalia" might refer to human genitals or animal genitals, it is still possible to write a single article on the general concept of genitals which encompasses both kinds due to relationships between them other than the descriptive term alone. That, in a nutshell, is what it means for term to be WP:DABCONCEPT to one another. In this case, Jarble is correct that Sex organ covers all of the topics regarding terms which could be referenced as "Male genitalia". It would be another matter if there was a planet by that name, or a notable album, although even then the primary topic would be the collection of uses covered at Sex organ. bd2412 T 01:55, 14 May 2013 (UTC) I have taken the matter to Wikipedia talk:Disambiguation and replied there. Flyer22 (talk) 02:53, 14 May 2013 (UTC) DC WikiSalon on May 24 Wikimedia DC invites you to join us for our next DC WikiSalon, which will be held on the evening of May 24 at our K Street office. The WikiSalon an informal gathering of Wikimedia enthusiasts, who come together to discuss the Wikimedia projects and collaboratively edit. There's no set agenda, and guests are welcome to recommend articles for the group to edit or edit on their own. Light refreshments will be provided. We look forward to seeing you there! Kirill [talk] 18:16, 17 May 2013 (UTC) Webinar / edit-a-thon at the National Library of Medicine (NLM) Join us at the NLM next week, either in person or online, to learn about NLM resources, hear some great speakers, and do some editing! organized by Wiki Project Med On Tuesday, 28 May there will be a community Wikipedia meeting at the United States National Library of Medicine in Bethesda, Maryland - with a second on Thursday, 30 May for those who can't make it on Tuesday. You can participate either in-person, or via an online webinar. If you attend in person, USB sticks (but not external drives) are ok to use. Please go to the event page to get more information, including a detailed program schedule. If you are interested in participating, please register by sending an email to pmhmeet@gmail.com. Please indicate if you are coming in person or if you will be joining us via the webinar. After registering, you will receive additional information about how to get to our campus (if coming in-person) and details about how to join the webinar. Klortho (talk) 00:41, 25 May 2013 (UTC) Love history & culture? Get involved in WikiProject World Digital Library! World Digital Library Wikipedia Partnership - We need you! Hi BD2412! I'm the Wikipedian In Residence at the World Digital Library, a project of the Library of Congress and UNESCO. I'm recruiting Wikipedians who are passionate about history & culture to participate in improving Wikipedia using the WDL's vast free online resources. Participants can earn our awesome WDL barnstar and help to disseminate free knowledge from over 100 libraries in 7 different languages. Multilingual editing encouraged!!! But being multilingual is not a necessity to make this project a success. Please sign up to participate here. Thanks for editing Wikipedia and I look forward to working with you! EdwardsBot (talk) 14:25, 25 May 2013 (UTC) May 2013 Hello, I'm BracketBot. I have automatically detected that your edit to Cláudio Luiz Lottenberg may have broken the syntax by modifying 1 "[]"s. If you have, don't worry, just edit the page again to fix it. If I misunderstood what happened, or if you have any questions, you can leave a message on my operator's talk page. Thanks, BracketBot (talk) 03:38, 28 May 2013 (UTC) Fixed, thanks. bd2412 T 16:46, 30 May 2013 (UTC) Amakasu clan Please take a look at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Amakasu clan. This explains the newest changes at Amakasu clan. As context, you may want to know that I created the disambiguation page in response to a good suggestion which you can read for yourself in the AfD thread. I did post link at Talk:Amakasu clan#AfD discussion, but I guess I should have made further changes after the AfD was closed. --Ansei (talk) 15:36, 30 May 2013 (UTC) In other words, the two fictional/gaming clans are the only groups by that name? bd2412 T 16:42, 30 May 2013 (UTC) Yes, for example, the Amakasu are not listed in Edmund Papinot's Dictionnaire d’histoire et de géographie du Japon; Papinot, (2003). Nobiliare du Japon, p. 2. There are a few individual historical figures with this name, for example, Amakasu Kagemochi; but, for example, there is no 甘糟氏 listed in Nihon jinmei daijiten. --Ansei (talk) 17:15, 30 May 2013 (UTC)