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VisualEditor is coming

The WP:VisualEditor is designed to let people edit without needing to learn wikitext syntax. The articles will look (nearly) the same in the new edit "window" as when you read them (aka WYSIWYG), and changes will show up as you type them, very much like writing a document in a modern word processor. The devs currently expect to deploy the VisualEditor as the new site-wide default editing system in early July 2013.

About 2,000 editors have tried out this early test version so far, and feedback overall has been positive. Right now, the VisualEditor is available only to registered users who opt-in, and it's a bit slow and limited in features. You can do all the basic things like writing or changing sentences, creating or changing section headings, and editing simple bulleted lists. It currently can't either add or remove templates (like fact tags), ref tags, images, categories, or tables (and it will not be turned on for new users until common reference styles and citation templates are supported). These more complex features are being worked on, and the code will be updated as things are worked out. Also, right now you can only use it for articles and user pages. When it's deployed in July, the old editor will still be available and, in fact, the old edit window will be the only option for talk pages (I believe that WP:Notifications (aka Echo) is ultimately supposed to deal with talk pages).

The developers are asking editors like you to join the alpha testing for the VisualEditor. Please go to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing and tick the box at the end of the page, where it says "Enable VisualEditor (only in the main namespace and the User namespace)". Save the preferences, and then try fixing a few typos or copyediting a few articles by using the new "Edit" tab instead of the section [Edit] buttons or the old editing window (which will still be present and still work for you, but which will be renamed "Edit source"). Fix a typo or make some changes, and then click the 'save and review' button (at the top of the page). See what works and what doesn't. We really need people who will try this out on 10 or 15 pages and then leave a note Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback about their experiences, especially if something mission-critical isn't working and doesn't seem to be on anyone's radar.

Also, if any of you are involved in template maintenance or documentation about how to edit pages, the VisualEditor will require some extra attention. The devs want to incorporate things like citation templates directly into the editor, which means that they need to know what information goes in which fields. Obviously, the screenshots and instructions for basic editing will need to be completely updated. The old edit window is not going away, so help pages will likely need to cover both the old and the new.

If you have questions and can't find a better place to ask them, then please feel free to leave a message on my user talk page, and perhaps together we'll be able to figure it out. WhatamIdoing (talk) 01:07, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Correction: Talk pages are being replaced by mw:Flow, not by Notifications/Echo. This may happen even sooner than the VisualEditor. WhatamIdoing (talk) 14:41, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Can we add project template and/or category to Maria Konopnicka?

I found a few sources which speculate about her being a lesbian, through this is a fringe POV. I think the sources are reliable enough to merit a cautious, qualified mention, but how about a project tag on the talk or a category? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:44, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Any article of interest to WikiProject LGBT studies can have this project's tag on the talk page. Tags are for this project's interest in the article, not the attributes of the subject of the article. Feel free to tag it if you think it is appropriate. Blue Rasberry (talk) 13:54, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

LGBT architects category deletion discussion

You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2013_May_17#Category:LGBT_architects. Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 05:10, 18 May 2013 (UTC)Template:Z48

2013 Tbilisi gay rights protests

Could anyone help with improving this article? There are plenty of English-language sources, given that such a large and violent homophob protest is rare. Nestrabonk (talk) 09:39, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

File:Tyler Clementi.jpg

File:Tyler Clementi.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 65.94.76.126 (talk) 02:49, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

File:Jamey Rodemeyer.png

File:Jamey Rodemeyer.png has been nominated for deletion -- 65.94.76.126 (talk) 02:54, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Emanuel Xavier

In light of the recently enacted community ban of a longtime contributor who is alleged to have pursued an on-wiki vendetta against the subjects of certain articles, I am prompted to ask experienced editors who can spare any time to examine this article to ensure it complies with basic policies and to determine whether its maintenance tags should remain in place. A more detailed version of this request is on the article's talk page. Thank you. Rivertorch (talk) 06:20, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Dyke (slang)#"Reappropriated?" Need citation to put it back in

Hey, everyone. Comments are needed with regard to the above linked matter in the heading. I've already commented on the matter. Flyer22 (talk) 20:04, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Terminology in World homosexuality laws map

Currently, "homosexual acts" is used in Template:World homosexuality laws map, which sounds clinical. See Avoiding Heterosexual Bias in Language. Furthermore, same-sex unions are not mere "acts," as it includes various other components ranging from romantic attraction to legal status. Finally, non-sexual behaviour is also penalized in some countries. For example, this Cameroonian got jailed for texting 'I'm in love with you' to another man.[1]. Based on this I tried to change it to "Same-sex relationships" or "Recognition/Persecution" based on an ILGA map [2]. The other editor claims "homosexual acts" are more neutral. Please comment on Template_talk:World_homosexuality_laws_map#Removed_clinical_and_imprecise_terminology. Cavann (talk) 23:25, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

And for those who haven't seen the extensive discussion we had here at this talk page about use of the word homosexual, when the word is fine to use and when it can be problematic to use, as well as the topic of using the spelling variation homosexuality, see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject LGBT studies/Archive 43#Style guideline of gay vs homosexual. Flyer22 (talk) 23:37, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

RfC: Should the section title for Academic freedom controversy be changed?

There is an RfC here Talk:Hans-Hermann_Hoppe#RfC:_Should_the_section_title_for_Academic_freedom_controversy_be_changed.3F concerning the article on Hans-Hermann Hoppe. There is extensive background discussion elsewhere on the talk page there. SPECIFICO talk 02:22, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Note: I have revised the section heading here to reflect what the RfC title is and modified the link to create a Wikilink. – S. Rich (talk) 14:29, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Categorisation: Transgender and transsexual people

I notice that a number of people, such as Roberta Cowell and Calpernia Addams have been placed into Category:Transgender and transsexual people even though they are also in Category:Transgender and transsexual women. Is this a desirable categorisation? To me, it goes against WP:DIFFUSE, although there may be special reasons in the case of these people. --Redrose64 (talk) 21:37, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

It's redundant and should be reverted. Hekerui (talk) 22:15, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

I suppose this is fallout from the recent brouhaha about categorization by gender. (Briefly, a New York Times article pointed out that female novelists were being removed from Category:American novelists into Category:American women novelists, so that the parent category ended up being populated only by men.) As a result it was reiterated that, according to WP:CAT/EGRS, gender-based categories should in most cases be non-diffusing - that is, articles that are in gender-specific category should also be directly included in the non-gendered parent category. It does seem to me that this might be an exception, since there is a corresponding Category:Transgender and transsexual men‎, and gender is quite specifically relevant in the case of trans people. I would suggest we shouldn't revert without at least getting clearance at Wikipedia talk:Categorization/Ethnicity, gender, religion and sexuality. - htonl (talk) 22:22, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

There seems to be an exception made, in cases where you are fully diffusing by gender. In this case, since these category are *only* about gender identity (as opposed to identity + job), I don't think there is any harm in fully diffusing - it's a different case than the American novelists one.--Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 01:01, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Deletion discussion - List of books about AIDS

1. List of books about AIDS
2. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of books about AIDS

Ongoing deletion discussion for List of books about AIDS at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of books about AIDS.

Perhaps this WikiProject and its members may be interested in contributing to this discussion, and/or a quality improvement project for this list page. — Cirt (talk) 07:04, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Zal Batmanglij

Resolved

Hello, I would like a third opinion about mentioning Zal Batmanglij's sexual orientation in his article. Discussion is here. Erik (talk | contribs) 20:58, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

There has been sufficient input. Thanks to all who weighed in. Erik (talk | contribs) 23:14, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Gay graves at Congressional Cemetery

sole member of Commons Category so far

Just looking for advice here.

Since Leonard Matlovich is buried at Congressional Cemetery in Washington DC there is something of a movement for LGBT folks (especially military folks) to have their graves near his. I'm not sure this is of national or even city-wide importance, but it is of importance in a cemetery-wide context. I'm writing up the cemetery in detail, with lots of photos, and even QRpedia codes.

One of the issues is that not all the graves are occupied yet (one partner only) - is it cool to show somebody's grave on Wikipedia if they are still alive? (I'd go to BLPn on this - which could make for an interesting section name but you may be able to help with other questions as well). Another question has to do with terminology - please read the inscription carefully in the photo and let me know what you think.

Also wondering what you think about the name of the Commons category "Gay graves at Congressional Cemetery"

All the best,

Smallbones_(smalltalk) 18:09, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Deletion Discussion

I prepared an Article titled Thomas Smith (author) that was almost instantly subjected to a Deletion Discussion. Based on my the comments I reduced the references. The article that I wrote is supported by non-mainstream references, Lavendar magazine in Minneapolis, MN, THE WORD, Indianapolis, IN, and The Leather Journal, Los Angeles, CA. The comments in the Deletion Discussion appear that the references are being considered as 'nonreliable' based on the gay or leather nature of the publications. This is based on my review of the comments and your opinion may differ. Additionally, support includes Leather Archives & Museum Timeline, Chicago and Pantheon of Leather Awards. The LA&M is a recognized library and the Pantheon Awards are selected by an independent panel and has been existence for many years. The subject of the article is in non-mainstream categories (Gay Writers) (BDSM writer) and BDSM Activist) commensurate with the references. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Smith_%28author%29 for article and it has the link to the discussion.

I would be interested to know how non-mainstream references are typically treated; I see other articles that are similar to the subject of this article with similar references and they have not been subject of a deletion discussion. Perhaps this WikiProject and its members may be interested in contributing to this discussion.WilliamTaylorSimpson (talk) 01:45, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Thank you.

You... you just refuse to listen to anything, don't you? FYI for anyone else reading this, multiple editors--self included--have been trying to get this guy to understand. We have apparently had no luck. The sources are unreliable NOT, for the last time, NOT because they're gay/leather publications, but because they are small, non-notable, not known for fact-checking. For god's sake. — The Potato Hose 15:47, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Help needed at Articles for Creation

The draft article Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Queering paradigms needs to be reviewed by someone familiar with the subject, please help. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 18:46, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

FYI, the content of the AfC was a blatant copyright violation as a copy/paste from another website on the subject. --TreyGeek (talk) 19:01, 13 June 2013 (UTC)