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WikiProject Persondata

Hi, you were registered on the WikiProject Persondata participant list as "Ched Davis". I've updated your listing to your current username, "Ched". Please let me know if this was in error. —Msmarmalade (talk) 13:51, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

that's fine. — Ched :  ?  14:52, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

Credo

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See below - feel free to give to another user. — Ched :  ?  14:52, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

Please fill out your JSTOR email

As one of the original 100 JSTOR account recipients, please fill out the very short email form you received just recently in order to renew your access. Even though you signed up before with WMF, we need you to sign up again with The Wikipedia Library for privacy reasons and because your prior access expired on July 15th. We do not have your email addresses now; we just used the Special:EmailUser feature, so if you didn't receive an email just contact me directly at jorlowitzgmail.com. Thanks, and we're working as quickly as possible to get you your new access! Jake (Ocaasi) 19:48, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Since I don't edit enough to be worthy - feel free to give it to someone else; but thank you just the same. — Ched :  ?  14:51, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

You're not missing much worthwhile here these days, anyhow, Ched. Intothatdarkness 14:59, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

blue hope pictured, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:32, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Long overdue

Howdy Ched. Just wanna thank ya for your May 2013 comments at WP:Arbitration Committee, concerning the then barring of my talkpage. GoodDay (talk) 19:44, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Ummmm ... OK I guess. May 2013 was long long ago (and in a galaxy far away) to me; but if something I said left someone with a "thank ya" in their heart - then I'm glad I said whatever it is I said. Best always, — Ched :  ?  15:32, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Happy to see you back, even if only for a fleeting moment. Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 15:48, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Always good to see you around as well Ed ... hope you are doing well. — Ched :  ?  03:08, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

First semester of grad school is in the books. ;-) Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 04:17, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Glad to hear that Ed, ... keep up the good work. :-) — Ched :  ?  11:14, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

RfC - 14 months later than intended

Interested users are invited to comment at Wikipedia:Administrators/RfC for an Admin Review Board. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 04:45, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Very glad to see this. I will have a look some time over the next few days. Thank you Kudpung. Hope you and yours are doing well, all my best .. — Ched :  ?  03:05, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Ched!

Saw you on NYB's page. Hope all's well. --Floquenbeam (talk) 22:10, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

I'm still hangin in there .. everyday above ground and all that :). Hey Floq; how you doin? Always good to see a sane voice about. Best to you and yours always my friend. — Ched :  ?  19:13, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

So you didn't quite reach wiki escape velocity after all ;) NE Ent 03:07, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Guilty as charged. I was happily fixing a typo here and there as an IP, but logged in to see what was up with the arbcom elections in early November. (found my scrambled password on a thumbdrive). Hope to not draw much attention, as I don't plan to get involved in much - but ... meh ... a "your vs. you're" here, a "to vs. too" there ... perhaps I can fix a bit now and again without too much fuss. I always did read the articles for research, and it's hard to walk away from fixing obvious stuff - probably shouldn't have drawn attention with a couple outside the article posts ... but we'll see. How you doin Ent? Very glad to see you still about, I see you chose to avoid the admin. stuff - can't say I blame you. Hope all is well with you and yours buddy. — Ched :  ?  03:26, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

[1] -- yea, that's the ticket. Go where you wanna go... Yea, I'm doing what I do around here. NE Ent 04:17, 14 December 2014 (UT

• there are so many good souls here, and I smile in seeing the folks like you Ent (you are such damn good people). It hurts so much when I see the anger and hate that fills so much of wiki - but it is part of life. Sorry to go so philosophical, but cherish every moment, every second of life .... ya only get one shot at this. Make sure ya do it right. — Ched :  ?  04:56, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

My Wish For All of You Good People

A very Merry Christmas and/or Happy Holidays to all and your families. From — Ched :  ?  16:45, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

Arbcom Dream Team

As 2014 comes to a close, we bid adieu to some very fine arbs. I have at times been very critical of the collective group, but never of the individuals. I'm thinking an "All-Star, Dream Team" might be fun to consider. More to follow. — Ched :  ?  13:04, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Propose MastCell. (Also of course re-draft Floquenbeam and don't let Newyorkbrad out of there.) Bishonen | talk 13:19, 31 December 2014 (UTC).

and 3 times 28bytes, please, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:51, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

You should rethink User:Newyorkbrad. Even if he agrees, he's a slacker, and likely to quit after only 7 years. --Floquenbeam (talk) 20:19, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Ummm ... ok, well that was said. :). Personally yes, NYB, Floq, and 28 would be there. I would also cast votes for Flonight, WTT, Carcharoth, Risker, Roger Davies, John Vandenberg, Cas Liber, Deskana, Krill Lokshin and Rlevse. Not that I've agreed with any one of them on all things, but I thought they handled the job well. It's also noted that this isn't a condemnation of any current or past individual Arb - It's just that I always felt that once I talked to these people, I knew where they stood on any individual issue. — Ched :  ?  14:50, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

And of course, we would need the supreme court justice: The most honorable Bishzilla — Ched :  ?  14:53, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

This is a first

Over the years I've heard AN/I called a lot of things, but I think this is the first time I ever heard it called a "safe haven". I guess times really have changed. (and that would be a good change IMO) — Ched :  ?  14:40, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Ummmm ... IJS

Douchebag is fully protected on Wikipedia.

• [2], -> [3]

Well that certainly does explain a lot, at least to me. IJS. — Ched :  ?  10:35, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

• Hey Ched! Hadn't noticed you were around again. Happy new year, grandpa, and thank you for your service. Drmies (talk) 15:59, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Well crapola .. sorry I missed you the other day Drmies, judging from the timestamp - I don't think it was by much. ALWAYS so go to see you about my friend. Yea, I am trying to sneak in an edit here and there (typo stuff mostly at this point, along with a few IMO posts), and re-learning muh wiki skills. I'm not always up for getting online, but when I am I'm trying to do a little here and there. Is your talk page still the cool place to hang-out? Guess I should go check-in on some folks and see who's still here. I know Hunster, Floq, the Bish family, Ed, Kudpung and a few others are still about cause I logged in back in Nov for elections (sigh). — Ched :  ?  01:33, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

• Why are we talking about ijs, anyway? (It's Dutch for "ice cream".) I don't know about "cool" place. Folks come by and ask questions and I try to oblige. Hafspajen comes by with pictures, Xanthowhatever makes pretty good jokes. Sometimes people yell at me. What else is new? Eric Corbett got yelled at by Jimmy Wales on JW's talk page, after someone brought Eric into some dumb thread for no good reason at all. It's like herpes--occasional flare-ups. There's been an ArbCom case or two, with very few hardcore dictates coming out of them, though someone got blocked for a long time or banned, I forgot which. A-holes have been bothering poor old Sitush IRL. Randykitty made admin--don't know how he pulled the wool over everyone's eyes, but he did. Oh, Harry Mitchell lost his temper, I think--quite uncharacteristic. What else... same old, same old. Later! Drmies (talk) 02:33, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

Edit count

Be wary of judging an editor by edit count. For example this edit is worth a lot more than his edit. I'm about quality rather than quantity. MaxBrowne (talk) 02:46, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

In no way was I attempting to evaluate the quality of any user's edit. Wikipedia is an extremely diverse culture, and there are many editors who do some very fine work; and yet, they struggle when it comes to interactions with people who may view things differently than them. There are a large number of users who are difficult to deal with for one reason or another. I've been around myself since nupedia, have had an account since 08(?), and yet have only maybe 20k edits. (I read much more than I write). Perhaps related: there is a stigma to the term "narcissist" which became a real hot-button word some years ago. I won't go into details here; suffice to say that one of, if not the best, editor on wiki used it in a general sense was blocked. It was not even directed at an individual ..... sigh. OK - anyway, I meant no offense by mentioning the number of edits. — Ched :  ?  03:10, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

I probably shouldn't have said it, but I meant it. MaxBrowne (talk) 03:18, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

You have absolutely no need to apologize for speaking your mind to me sir. I greatly appreciate honesty, and in fact, I agree with what you've said. — Ched :  ?  03:33, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Regardless you shouldn't always say what you think, even if you think it's true. MaxBrowne (talk) 04:13, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Truer words would be difficult to find. — Ched :  ?  04:44, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Hey Ched, speaking one's mind is encouraged, I know, but it has its limits. I'm getting kind of tired of MaxBrowne and their narcissism commentary, and I think I'm at the point where I think it's blockable. Wikipedia isn't really a free-speech zone and I can't help but think that Max is doing this, continuing to do this, to get a rise out of IHTS.

Now, MaxBrowne, it is time to stop. Yes, typically admin pages (certainly mine) are sort of outside normal boundaries, and I typically let editors with iBans discuss matters related to those iBans--but that doesn't mean they are free-speech zones where old gripes can be rehashed ad nauseam. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 16:49, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

"...I can't help but think that Max is doing this, continuing to do this, to get a rise out of...". This is incorrect. I just want to be able to edit in peace. MaxBrowne (talk) 02:53, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

I have a bit of running to do today, and honestly I hadn't followed all this beyond the one ANI thread. I had hoped with a bit of encouragement that everyone would go their separate ways and be productive. If there are continuing issues then I fully trust your judgement Drmies and of course won't interfere. Best of luck to all. — Ched :  ?  17:14, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Mustangs

I very much appreciate your assistance and support. But I have been worn down for almost two weeks on these dramas and have no more fight left at the moment. If you think a few more people will want to support my position, I can withdraw my requests for closure, but I don't think the drama will ever end on the disambiguation page until it is moved, as this was the third time it has come up in a year, and there were previous dramas that I can't be bothered to locate now. The capitalization issue is different,but I fear equally no-win given the weight of people coming in, none of whom have ever actually edited the article, but they are free with their uninformed opinions. The bullies won this round, I fear. Montanabw^(talk) 06:01, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Montanabw, I can easily accept what will come from the capitalization issues for many reasons. Personally my education comes from a now archaic educational system where we were taught that lowercase was for general descriptions: cat, dog, horse. But that caps should be used when referring to a specific breed or species. Still, that is "American" English, and much has changed over the years, and I can easily accept that. However, in my mind. as an encyclopedic project, I think the pure concepts should be adhered to. The etiology clearly states that the word is first, foremost, and only about the horse. Originally I felt that "M/mustang" should be a dab because my first thought was of the American car. After research, and after putting on my "this is an encyclopedia" hat (tinfoil as it may be), I came to strongly feel that Mustang should indeed point to the horse article. However, I am not a member of the Wikipedia:WikiProject Equine, and I also very strongly believe that "projects" should be given certain leeway in relative articles. I strongly resent the "I didn't get my way, I'll try again" attitude of bringing this move situation up every few months. That is clearly disruptive editing. Although I've only looked briefly at two pages regarding Mustangs, it seems that the area you're working in is extremely toxic. I could go on for quite some time, but suffice to say - if you and members of WP:EQUINE wish concede and submit to the ill-informed, then I will not be a roadblock. I stand by my comment of "I very strongly oppose these moves."; however for reasons I won't get into publicly, there are times I can't be on wiki to rebut every Tom, Dick, and Harry crawling out of mommy and daddy's basement. It's up to you. If you fold, then I do too. If you wish to oppose these moves, then I will do my best to support you because I believe ... I KNOW, in my heart that from an encyclopedic standpoint that you are right. Your call. — Ched :  ?  06:42, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

I reversed my "giving up" and now there's yet another fight over whether to just call the whole thing off. It's a total ClusterF--- . I hear you about toxic. I guess if you want to go over there and comment that everyone needs to take a chill pill - and perhaps indeed the the issue just needs to be closed as "inconclusive" for awhile, let the discussion be archived, and let it be looked at again in a year or so, I'd be good with that. I DO oppose the move, but I am exhausted, and there were too few people willing to deal with the bullies and trolls. That damn notificaiton bot seems to draw nothing but ignorant drama queens to these RM discussions. Montanabw^(talk) 06:56, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

I did see that, and while I agree - I won't try to force any more toxic drama on you either. And while my time on wiki is often very spotty, I will put both Mustang pages on my watchlist and do what I can to keep things tolerable. I was too involved this time around to take any administrative actions, but there are other venues to explore in the future too. Get some rest, recharge, and go back to enjoying all things "horse" Montanabw. Best always. — Ched :  ?  12:46, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. You may enjoy Mike Cline's new article Bleu Horses. Montanabw^(talk) 00:14, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Hey - amazing coincidence. I recently had a look at that article; I think it was our TFA or something. Some of those pictures he took were amazing. I didn't have time to read the whole thing at the time, but I did bookmark it. Thank you for the reminder - I will get back to it. — Ched :  ?  00:24, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Q

I greatly appreciate honesty, and in fact, I agree with what you've said. — Ched :  ? 03:33, 25 Ched, could you please clarify (to me) what it is you "agree with"? Thanks. Ihardlythinkso (talk) 10:40, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

The comment "Be wary of judging an editor by edit count." — Ched :  ?  14:26, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, but that just doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Remember this?: "I stand by my thoughts". Well, it is just fine if you continue to hate my guts Ched, I don't particularly like or respect you either. But you should know, as admin, you aren't neutral toward me, and as such, you shouldn't be closing ANI threads concerning me. (Or doesn't that serve your sensibility somehow?) Ihardlythinkso (talk) 01:37, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Four things IHTS

1. I don't hate your guts.

2. I'm not interested in rehashing an email conversation from a year and a half ago.

3. If you're looking for an argument, I'm sorry, but again, I'm just not interested.

4. You asked me to clarify something I said. I tried to do just that; and I don't know how to make it any clearer than I did.

— Ched :  ?  08:28, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Wow

This [4] is just...WOW. Caden ^cool 23:49, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

I hadn't seen Drmies around and it was getting out of hand. Since I see he's on top of it, .... — Ched :  ?  00:03, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Hard not to get sucked into the dysfunction vortex, isn't it? :) --Floquenbeam (talk) 00:11, 30 January 2015 (UTC)