Talk:Gorillaz

Edit request from Charlie668, 2 April 2011

Charlie668 (talk) 18:53, 2 April 2011 (UTC) the fall is a studio album damon said it was the fourth album of the studio albums

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. Monty₈₄₅ 08:24, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Genre

I recently made an edit adding electronica as a genre which was quickly removed. I feel that this should be added as their newest album, "The Fall", was made primarily using synthesizers and drum machines not to mention that songs on their "Plastic Beach" album were also made using both synthesizers and drum machines. Here is a list of songs that should not be listed under alternative hip-hop or alternative rock and would be best listed under the rather ambiguous umbrella genre of electronica. 19-2000 Glitter Freeze Some Kind of Nature On Melancholy Hill Broken Phoner to Arizona Detroit Shy-town Little Pink Plastic Bags The Joplin Spider" The Parish of Space Dust The Snake in Dallas The Speak It Mountains

This was just a quick list as I am sure there are more. I challenge you to really listen to these songs then look up the definition of electronica. If you are thinking that because most of these songs are on "The Fall" that they shouldn't be listed under electronica consider this; a folk band puts out five very obviously folk albums then releases one heavy metal album. On the genre page heavy metal should still be listed. This is, of course, an extreme example as "The Fall" is the Gorillaz fourth studio album and their music has always had ample electronic elements. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blt33 (talk • contribs) 17:58, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

This has been discussed over and over and over again. There's no point in opening this up to more genre-warring. That was part of why the article was protected--everyone wants to add there own genre. The point of the infobox parameter is to keep it simple. We can't just add every genre that the songs have ever fallen under. We can list them in the article itself, but the infobox shouldn't have more than a couple general terms to give readers an idea of what the music sounds like as a whole. Friginator (talk) 18:21, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

I vehemently disagree. While in general the heading should be succinct, and while I would agree with the above post if their electronica songs were distributed sparingly across all of their albums, they are not. Rather, the band's more recent albums have been increasingly classifiable as electronica. In fact, their most recent album's entry explicitly lists electronica as one of its genres. Given the band's trend towards more electronically influenced music and their extensive use of electronic instrumentation on all of their albums, adding the nonspecific genre Electronica to the list seems appropriate. This will not only give readers the (correct) impression that Gorillaz make extensive use of electronic instrumentation, but will also more accurately summarize their sound. The current list ignores the large influence of electronic music on the Gorillaz, and should be modified to, as you said, "give readers an idea of what the music sounds like as a whole". Sas556 (talk) 03:48, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

If alternative rock is to be included, there needs to be at least one reliable source describing the band as such.Mlillybaltimore (talk) 02:54, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Natiscoo32, 11 April 2011

The album "The Fall" by Gorillaz has not been released. The album will be released on April 18th. May I change the date? Source: Gorillaz official website. Link: http://www.gorillaz.com Natiscoo32 (talk) 00:25, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

 Done Krashlandon ^(talk) 23:18, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

The album has actually been available since 25 December 2010 to members of the fanclub through the official site. The April release is just the first time the album's been put out as a physical CD. Friginator (talk) 00:29, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

I see. Thanks for correcting that. Krashlandon ^(talk) 02:36, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

The Fall

People have added The Fall to the Studio albums section several times, despite there being a comment specifically asking us not to, so I've removed it again. The content was recorded on tour, but it looks like it has had studio work done on it, and Gorillaz discography lists it as a Studio album. There is some discussion above, but it is inconclusive. So can we get a consensus and make sure the "hidden" comment is as we want it - is it a Live album or a Studio album? -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 20:40, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Seems it's been added again - I'm happy to leave it there and see what people think -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 22:03, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

It is definitely not a live album. While the album was recorded on tour, none of the tracks on The Fall were live recordings. I personally say keep it as a studio album. Rocker10000 (talk) 21:31, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Damon Albarn said himself it is not the fourth Gorillaz album: "Well it's not the next Gorillaz album, I wrote a diary, I used my time on the tour in America to make music every day. And I started at the beginning and ended a month later. And yes it's a diary of a journey, a sort of sonic journey around America. But in the conventional sense of a big commercial release, no, it's just a piece of music, it just continues a process, it keeps things interesting, and you know, for me, I discovered the iPad, fell in love with it, and made a record using it pretty much exclusively. So it's another record from Gorillaz. But the next Gorillaz album, I don't know if you could really classify it as that." I really think this should be taken off the studio albums list and template as it would wrongly mislead people to think this is the fourth Gorillaz album, — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.58.177.164 (talk) 02:04, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Merger proposal

Last year a user went and effectively pageblanked all the band member pages and didn't even give a discussion about it. I noticed this and opened up a discussion which ended up resulting in a deletion discussion the result of which was to keep the band member pages. Apparently this year the same user put a tag on all the band member pages for a merge, and once again there is no actual discussion going on. If you go through the talk pages for the band members they have been challenged over the years and the consensus has consistently been to keep the pages. In my opinion merging the material from the band member pages would make the main article too long, and last time the "merge" was really just a delete of all the pages in one fell swoop with no material brought into the main article at all. The independent notability of the band members has been defended time and again. In any case, I would be inclined to just Be Bold and remove the tag since there has been no discussion in over half a year, but I am going to go ahead and be charitable and provide the section for discussion the tagger did not create. I'll check back on this and if there is no discussion on it after awhile I will go ahead and remove the tags. Rifter0x0000 (talk) 03:17, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Okay the tag was there since January and I posted this in July. I think that is long enough if someone wanted to actually justify merging the articles, which really would not have been possible. Essentially it would mean the very lengthy articles on the band members would be gone. Removing the tags. Rifter0x0000 (talk) 03:27, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Glastonbury?

No information whatsoever? I know it didn't get great reviews but what's going on folks? I'm new to this and not the best qualified to write it up in any case but there must be someone who is?

piz zip

pizip are an English musical and visual project created in 2012 by Philip edwins . The project consists of piz zip music itself and an extensive fictional universe depicting a "virtual band" of cartoon characters. This band has four animated members: 3-p miller(lead vocalist, keyboard, and melodica), moon star(bass guitar and drum machine), sherily (guitar, keyboard, and occasional vocals) and Russel (drums and percussion). Their fictional universe is explored through the band's website and music videos, as well as a number of other media, such as short cartoons. The music is a collaboration between various musicians, Albarn being the only permanent musical contributor. Their style is a composition of multiple musical genres, with a large number of influences including alternative Jesus songs, holy band, hip hop, electronic, and music.[1][2][3] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.124.127.154 (talk) 15:36, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

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Hiatus

Surely it's a little early for changing the article to past-tense? So they've had a bit of a fall-out - we don't know for sure it's over. At least wait for official news - all Albarn's said is that future projects are "unlikely" - and that was only today. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arran64 (talk • contribs) 06:15, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Template {{The Clash}}

The logic for the addition of the {{The Clash}} template, and their interlinking removal, escapes me. The interrelationship in the body is sufficient, the requirement for the additional template is not. — billinghurst sDrewth 01:42, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Album chronology

Should it be separated from "other albums" (such as compilations, remixes, etc...) and studio albums? Have a look here. In my opinion I see Gorillaz as complex because they have four studio albums and 5 "other albums", which is more "other albums" then studio. --124.184.245.127 (talk) 01:10, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for opening this post. Looking at Gorillaz discography, their discography seems relatively simple and should be linked in a single chronological chain with all albums: studio, remix, EP, etc. I dont think their DVDs are albums and should probably be separated from the Albums section at the discography page, perhaps in a videography section (like Madonna videography (w/music videos there) or just "DVDs". Nonetheless, even discographies as prolific as Michael Jackson's were merged into one chronological chain after the guideline was changed at Template:Infobox album, so this shouldnt be an exception. I think the complex cases may be with a prolific artist being apart of another's project; I noticed Madonna's videography articles having specific chronologies like at Drowned World Tour 2001, which seems warranted considering the Madonna videography article. Dan56 (talk) 01:53, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

This issue was previously discussed here; this discussion led to the change for all albums being included. Dan56 (talk) 01:54, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Ok, I see. But the Sum 41 albums are separated. Please check it out and determine if you would consider that more complex compare to Gorillaz. --124.184.245.127 (talk) 08:16, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Those articles havent been updated, or the editors of those articles are ignoring the guideline and choosing their personal preference. Try to avoid the "other stuff exists" line of argument, as there are more poorly written articles then there are good. Not that those album articles are poor, just that this is the guideline and you are free to change the Sum 41 album articles, citing Template:Infobox album#Chronology. Dan56 (talk) 14:22, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

Gorillaz (album)

There is a problem on the Gorillaz (album). Under the personnel section. It seems like it's incomplete on the non-virtual part. It doesn't state who played the drums and the bass (guitar) and all the other instruments that are heard on the album. --58.164.64.5 (talk) 11:56, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Kidrobot

Does anyone knows how many copies of the Kidrobot vinyl figures were made for each editions? There are the 2005 editions released in "black" set and "red" set plus special "DARE" Noodle edition. On 16 October 2006 basic "CMYK" editions were released, followed by the "two-tone" edition and "white" edition on 2 November 2006.

All of these information are listed on the article under the "Phase Two: Slowboat to Hades (2004–2007)" section about the sixth paragraph. But it doesn't state how many copies of each editions were made. --58.167.82.88 (talk) 12:25, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

I'm not sure how many of the original red and black were released. But the new(er) edition of CMYK was limited to 60 000, white was limited to 4000 and 2-tone was limited to 1000. According to the source stating the figures. --Mr. Washee Washee (talk) 23:09, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Jock The Goat

gorillaz, fifth member, Jock, Goat, Jock The Goat, Lost, forgotten, Coverup, by, Military, Experiment, super intelligent, Human mind, Talks like, Ewan McGregor, talk to me, jamie hewlett, tapped in area 51 — Preceding unsigned comment added by MoldyFred (talk • contribs) 20:30, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

The Evangelist/Lukas

The reference given (http://gorillaz.com/evangelist) does talk about the The Evangelist as an Official Gorillaz CHARACTER, but nowhere on that page is it mentioned that they have joined the band. The Gorillaz universe is made up of many characters, some of which only exist in the universe and are not band members. The Boogieman for example.

Next to this you provided no source to backup your edit that a new band member "Lukas" has joined. The edit that Murdoc has left also needs citation.

Based on the fact that no new information about the bands story/universe has come out since the DoYaThing episode, i am removing these edits until a proper source is available. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Diesal 11 (talk • contribs) 07:52, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Trip hop

Trip hop is definitely a common genre in Gorillaz' music, and it should be returned to the infobox, as it was removed a couple of months ago. I personally know a guy who was the pioneer of trip hop (http://www.last.fm/music/45+Dip) and he cites Gorillaz as a definite trip hop group. 86.142.178.96 (talk) 20:19, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Agree. Gorillaz have played too many genres to list on their page, but trip-hop is a very common one for them. Also I think "Electronica" should be added, because currently there is nothing in the genres to indicate their very obvious and prominent electronic sounds that they've done throughout their career. MetalicMadness (talk) 00:40, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Needs multiple reliable sources to add to the article, let alone the infobox. STATic message me! 01:27, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Maintenance tag

Please do not delete maintenance tags without addressing the problem. The fact that much of the article has refs does not mean that unreferenced material can be added. Unreferenced material need not even be tagged -- it can be challenged and deleted at any time, per wp:v. And cannot then be restored without proper RS inline citations. --Epeefleche (talk) 19:07, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

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Pete Candeland and others

This article doesn't talk much about the animators and other directors of the videos, like Pete Candeland. I'm not sure where it would be best to put it in, but I think their contributions to Gorillaz were very important. Does anyone have thoughts on this?—Zujine|talk 21:00, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

I've been busy irl so I hadn't check back on this until now. I think I'll add a new section for some of this content after I take the time to compile it—something along on the lines of "Other collaborators" or something to that effect. More to come. —Zujine|talk 19:53, 6 December 2015 (UTC)