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Information Based on Undergraduate Student Paper

I have removed the irreverent reference to Abigail as a shallow woman who was attracted to David because he was an outlaw. This thesis was based on a paper published on the Web by Sara Williams, an undergraduate student at the University of Florida. The paper refers to David as an evil man but fails to prove this. Accordingly, Abigail is referred to as "sexually attracted to an outlaw". This is inappropriate information to include in a Wikipedia article and, except for the student article, is undocumented. David was the chosen one of God, the father of Solomon, anointed three times and is the darling of the Lord. Not only is the Ms. William's premise silly, but it is preposterous that God would anoint an evil man. The paper is a ludicrous reading of the extraordinary encounter between Abigail and David. I suggest that the use of student papers to validate outrageous theories is inappropriate in view of the subject matter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.189.28.190 (talk) 11:43, 20 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OK, fair enough. The paper does not seem to have received any citations in academic journals, only a mention on the web here. St Anselm (talk) 19:53, 20 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This makes no sense...

"Abigail occurs once[1] and is thought by the vast majority of scholars to be an alternate spelling of Abigail."

Both spellings are the same...is the first supposed to be "Abagail," which is an alternate spelling of Abigail?

DonaNobisPacem (talk) 15:20, 7 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 28 January 2015

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The result of the move request was: not moved. Number 5 7 10:40, 6 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Abigail → Abigail (biblical figure) – more precise 76.120.164.90 (talk) 17:49, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support – She's not a very major biblical figure, and there are lots of other Abigails. —BarrelProof (talk) 21:01, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Oppose: This is consistent with the articles on Saul, David, and Jesus. Other Abigails are usually referred to as "Abigail _____", not just "Abigail." However, it would be worth checking on how many people click through to one of the two other links at the top - anyone know how to do that? Faceless Enemy (talk) 03:58, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No, but this article has had 4800 page views in the past month, compared to 2350 for Abigail (name) and 300 for Abigail (disambiguation). St Anselm (talk) 05:48, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose as the primary topic. Both this article and Abigail (name) make clear that the biblical figure is the origin of the name. St Anselm (talk) 05:48, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support per statistics of StAnselm. Clearly, there is no primary topic, since it is not a 10:1 advantage in pageviews over the next leading topic, nor a 3:1 advantage in views over all topics combined. Therefore the disambiguation page should be moved to the base location -- 65.94.40.137 (talk) 08:21, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose This is definitely it's primary topic. Uspzor (talk) 10:19, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - PTM, and consistent with other biblical names. Red Slash 00:15, 30 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Out of interest does that mean primary topic meaning? Zarcadia (talk) 19:18, 30 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

My bad, I should have linked it. No, it means WP:Partial title match, and it refers to how none of these other gals named Abigail are commonly referred to by reliable sources as just plain "Abigail", whereas the Biblical figure is. Red Slash 04:05, 31 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Order of David's wives

from the NIV rendering of 1Sam 25 v43 ... "David had also married Ahinoam of Jezreel, and they both were his wives." The use of 'had' suggests that David had married Ahinoam before Abigail. Other versions are more ambiguous. Furthermore, 1Sam 30 v5 also suggests this sequence ... "David’s two wives had been captured—Ahinoam of Jezreel and Abigail, the widow of Nabal of Carmel." This calls into question the statement in the main article that Abigail was David's second wife. 92.87.28.5 (talk) 09:46, 24 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]