Talk:Priyanka Chopra

Ethnicity is Punjabi?

How can her ethnicity be listed as Punjabi when Chopra herself has said that her maternal grandmother is Malayali? I'm not sure what her paternal grandfather is, but he's likely to be Malayali as well:

"I am a Malayali," says Priyanka with a straight face on learning about our recent trip to God’s Own Country. Even as one rubbishes it off as a prank, she says, straight-faced "My naani is a Malayali from Kottayam, so I have roots there."

http://www.dnaindia.com/entertainment/interview-what-is-priyanka-chopra-s-kottayam-connection-1740013 — Preceding unsigned comment added by AyanP (talk • contribs) 02:28, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Somebody proclaiming themselves to be a part of a certain ethnicity doesn't actually need not necessarily make them a part of that group. Further, the source states that only her maternal grandmother to be a Malayali, not mother. I see no point in bringing in the Malayalam ethnicity here. —Vensatry _(ping) 11:01, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

You mean Malayali* ethnicity; Malayalam is the language they speak. In any case, going by your logic, I'm not sure why there's a point in bringing up her Punjabi ethnicity in the article. If that's relevant so is her maternal grandmother being a Malayali. AyanP (talk) 06:08, 22 March 2015 (UTC)Ayan

Pardon me for confusing you, but I'm very much aware of the difference between "Malayalam" and Malayali". No where in the article (in words) I'm able to find a mention of her Punjabi ethnicity. The "Malayali ethnicity" matters only in her maternal grandmother's article, not here. I suggest you please read WP:CATEGRS before jumping into conclusions. —Vensatry _(ping) 19:59, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

Why on earth would there be an article about her grandmother? And yes, there is a line about her Punjabi father ("Her father was a Punjabi") while there is no mention of her maternal ancestry. If the latter doesn't matter, why is the former mentioned in the article? AyanP (talk) 01:54, 14 September 2015 (UTC)AyanP

Unless you can also find her maternal grandfather's ethnicity there's no strong reason to include "Malayali".Filpro (talk) 02:00, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Reviews

Why are we removing reviews of Chopra's performance in an article about Chopra? [1], [2] --NeilN ^{talk to me} 01:13, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

Can We Get a New Main Photo?

I don't think the current one is flattering at all and it's not exactly recent anymore. AyanP (talk) 03:36, 30 September 2015 (UTC)AyanP

There are ample photos in commons, please list here any suggestion that you might have, or anything in proper pixels in recent one. —Indian:BIO ^{[ ChitChat ]} 04:13, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Someone already changed it to a recent photo, but I think this one is even less flattering. Considering this page is probably going to get a lot more people visiting this page because of Quantico, I think she deserves a photo that does her justice. Let me look for a better one.

FYI, have you noticed that BollywoodHungama.com retouches candid pictures to add more lighting and make people look paler? I wish we could use photos from another source. How about pictures taken by fans? AyanP (talk) 00:41, 2 October 2015 (UTC)AyanP

Sexiest Asian Woman??

The sentence is on the first paragraph! No citation nothing and this is a protected page? You mean Aishwarya Rai is not the sexiest in the world and no one else is? There is no proof that Priyanka is the sexiest Asian. May be one of the sexiest Asians and should quote which magazine said it. 37.140.228.18 (talk) 19:50, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

The details (and reference) are in the body of the article. Leads paragraphs typically don't contain references per WP:LEAD. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 19:59, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 January 2016

Please change the first photo. 117.195.3.24 (talk) 11:21, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

No. —Indian:BIO ^{[ ChitChat ]} 11:34, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

Five categories

While I'm not denying the fact that her five wins across as many categories is a Bollywood record, having such a contentious claim (even in the lead) in a non-neutral manner is not a great idea. Keeping Amitabh Bachchan aside, Lakshmi and Kamal Haasan have won in more than five categories (albeit majorly being Filmfare Awards South). So PC, is definitely not the first actress to win in five categories. Lakshmi did that many years ago (Tamil, Hindi, Malayalam, Telugu, Kannada, and a Lifetime Achievement Award). —Vensatry _(Talk) 13:45, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

First of all AB and KH are not actresses. Second we are talking about "Filmfare Awards" amd NOT "Filmfare Awards" South, West, East, or North. Your edit saying first Bollywood actress to win? Excuse me Filmfare Awards are obviously for Bollywood. Your words doesn't make sense. And, why its not neutral to say the truth? If she had won some "made up" award like Entertainer Award (which doest happen at Filmfare Thank God) than it would have been a problem. Farhan Akhtar has won in six categories. I don't think anyone wins a Lifetime Achievement Award. They are presented and we are talking about the competetive awards here. AB has won a Power Award, what is that? Isn't that questionable? I repeat, dont you ever revert my or anyone's edit without making sure you are right, which in this case you were wrong.Krish | Talk 14:07, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

I believe that "Critics Award" is also non-competitive; there are no nominations. Anyway, please don't cause another stink here. All this "first and only" type of language is too flowery, especially in the lead. You should know it by now. A simple statement of the facts as in the newer version is just fine. BollyJeff | talk 14:14, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Critics awards do have nominations. It's just they are not revealed. I read a recent article by Subhash K. Jha about that. It is notable that Filmfare doesnt reveal all the nominations except the top 10. But, they send the nomination to every nominee. It means, the actor or actress have more nominations than it is shown in their wikipedia pages. By the way, i have tweaked that line to simply say that she is the first actress to win Filmfare awards in five categories.Krish | Talk 14:28, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

@Krish!: Since when did Filmfare become a promient ceremony (for you)? I see you'd bashed the award in a conversation with another editor? Ok, AB and Kamal aren't actresses, what about Lakshmi – does the name sound like a man to you? —Vensatry _(Talk) 15:10, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

I see you have reinserted the 'First and only' bit. Poor language in a FA mate! —Vensatry _(Talk) 15:14, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Wasn't "Female Hero" a poor language for Vidya Balan? Also, I still feel Filmfare Awards are biased. It doesn't had to do with their credibility. My work is to update the article. It's a fact that she is the first and the only actress to win 5 awards in different categories, what i can do in this? By the way Lakshmi has won in different languages and we are talking about the Filmfare Awards.Krish | Talk 15:20, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

You clearly are not here to build an encyclopedia, but to promote something. I don't care about the Balans, the Mukherjis, the Padukones, the Ranauts, or the Chopras. All that I want is the aspect of WP:NPOV is not lost. Isn't winning awards in multiple languages (that too at a time when not many categories existed) a better 'feat' than someone winning in different categories in a particular industry? And Lakshmi won a Filmfare Award for Best Actress too. FYI, Filmfare, Filmfare Awards South, Filmfare Awards East, all are awarded by the Times Group. You are repeatedly displaying this WP:BATTLEGROUND mentality inspite of Bollyjeff's (the primary contributor to this article) advice. I'll wait for Dr. Blofeld (another significant contributor), Cyphoidbomb, and Cowlibob before proceeding to a WP:DR. —Vensatry _(Talk) 15:49, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Oh yes, I'm only here to f***k myself right? and I didn't contributed to this article. Correct. You are so kind Vensatry. Thank You.Krish | Talk 16:28, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

I cannot answer such existentialist questions. I know this was unsourced, but can you explain this revert which was made without an edit summary? As a matter of fact, five years ago Kareena Kapoor achieved the feat that we're talking about – five awards (read Filmfare Awards). And she is an 'actress' too! —Vensatry _(Talk) 17:20, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Kapoor was presented with a Special Award for a film, which was eligible for next year. But she got awarded a year before than its actual eligibility. You just cannot say a person has won a Special Award, those are presented. By the way, Chopra's record is for five acting categories which are competetive and not some Special Award because of a sirname.Krish | Talk 17:40, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Er, I'm not getting into a debate as to which awards are competitive and which are not. WP isn't the place for it. The concern was with respect to your original wordings: 'first and the only actress to win Filmfare Awards in five different categories.' —Vensatry _(Talk) 18:01, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

"First and only actress to win Filmfare Awards in five different categories", seems like a "moving the goalposts" accomplishment. By that, I mean that without context (like reporters making a big stink about it), it's somewhat arbitrary, even if true. If you move the goalposts closer or further away from your subject, you can turn anything into an a accomplishment. "PK is the highest-grossing Indian film to date." Now that's a significant achievement. "Dhoom 3 was the highest-grossing Indian film of 2013." Okay, got it, that's important too. "Bang Bang! is the highest-grossing Indian film to screen first in Dubai." Arbitrary accomplishment. "Film XYZ is the first film to gross more than ₹N crore in Kerala on its seventh day after release." Now we're in ridiculous territory. We're not here to fluff things up [3][4], and manufacturing arbitrary accomplishments isn't part of our goals either. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:44, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

@Cyphoidbomb: Wish I could give your comment a 100 upvotes. Another worrying aspect is that Indian media copy these arbitrary claims made in WP. Over a period of time, factoids become facts! —Vensatry _(Talk) 18:49, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

I will also add that Krish's battleground mentality and WP:OWN of Priyanka Chopra related articles are something that needs to be toned down. —Indian:BIO ^{[ ChitChat ]} 20:19, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Too late to talk about WP:OWNish behavior now! I agree with what Cyphoidbomb talks about goalpost changes. Vensatry clearly points out how Kareena Kapoor, a female actor, has also achieved same feat before although her PRs have not done a good job of hyping it up. If we at all disregard acting and gender, both Kapoor and Chopra have a long time to catch up with Gulzar who has 20 Filmfares in 7 different categories. Also note, this content is also being added to the article Filmfare Awards, where it is not suitable at all. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 04:12, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Unless Filmfare itself comes up with something like this, I don't see a compelling reason to add whatever is being reported in the media. —Vensatry _(Talk) 09:07, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Vensatry I think you are right. I don't know why I had added that stuff in the first place. It's just some articles surfaced after the Filmfare ceremony. That's why I removed that thing yesterday, the time I realised it wasn't really neccessary.Krish | Talk 14:20, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

personal life

why is there no 'personal life' section here? there needs to be one. 63.142.146.194 (talk) 20:04, 17 May 2016 (UTC)