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:As for its inclusion in this article, there is no established rule saying that the table can only include happening series, we get to create the criteria for inclusion ourselves. And I feel that an episode that actually exists, and is notable enough to have its own article, really should be listed here where everyone can find it. We clearly note that it didn't go beyond the pilot stage and that it is unaired, and we keep it separate from all the actual TV series, so I really don't see the harm in having it here, and in fact, I think we are doing a disservice to the pilot article and to our readers if we hide it away from then. Basically, if we have it in the TV article, but separate from the TV series, why shouldn't we have it in the TV article's overview table, but separate from the TV series? - [[User:Adamstom.97|adamstom97]] ([[User talk:Adamstom.97|talk]]) 06:47, 24 August 2016 (UTC) |
:As for its inclusion in this article, there is no established rule saying that the table can only include happening series, we get to create the criteria for inclusion ourselves. And I feel that an episode that actually exists, and is notable enough to have its own article, really should be listed here where everyone can find it. We clearly note that it didn't go beyond the pilot stage and that it is unaired, and we keep it separate from all the actual TV series, so I really don't see the harm in having it here, and in fact, I think we are doing a disservice to the pilot article and to our readers if we hide it away from then. Basically, if we have it in the TV article, but separate from the TV series, why shouldn't we have it in the TV article's overview table, but separate from the TV series? - [[User:Adamstom.97|adamstom97]] ([[User talk:Adamstom.97|talk]]) 06:47, 24 August 2016 (UTC) |
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::Can't really add much else to what Adam said. The pilot passes [[WP:GNG]] to have its own article; [[WP:TVSERIES]] is to prevent someone from creating an article about a pilot that gets ordered and subsequently passed on, and the only info may be those two pieces of news, and maybe an actor. The info for this passed pilot far exceeds that info, and has enough coverage, on par with [[Aquaman (TV pilot)]] and [[Wonder Woman (TV pilot)]] to have an article. As for including in the table, the episode was to be part of the MCU so there needs to be a mention of it somewhere. Since it was another TV series (albeit just the pilot and passed on), it is best to be included in the TV series section, clearly defined that it was a pilot only that did not air. - [[User:Favre1fan93|Favre1fan93]] ([[User talk:Favre1fan93|talk]]) 18:01, 24 August 2016 (UTC) |
::Can't really add much else to what Adam said. The pilot passes [[WP:GNG]] to have its own article; [[WP:TVSERIES]] is to prevent someone from creating an article about a pilot that gets ordered and subsequently passed on, and the only info may be those two pieces of news, and maybe an actor. The info for this passed pilot far exceeds that info, and has enough coverage, on par with [[Aquaman (TV pilot)]] and [[Wonder Woman (TV pilot)]] to have an article. As for including in the table, the episode was to be part of the MCU so there needs to be a mention of it somewhere. Since it was another TV series (albeit just the pilot and passed on), it is best to be included in the TV series section, clearly defined that it was a pilot only that did not air. - [[User:Favre1fan93|Favre1fan93]] ([[User talk:Favre1fan93|talk]]) 18:01, 24 August 2016 (UTC) |
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Under "TV Shows" the show Marvel's Most Wanted is not listed, despite getting an ABC pilot order. It isn't guaranteed yet, but neither is Damage Control, and that is listed.
http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/marvel-mockingbird-spinoff-series-most-wanted-adrianne-palicki-nick-blood-abc-1201574713/ Linklazer8 (talk) 15:33, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
- Most Wanted was passed on, Damage Control was ordered on a put pilot and so is basically guaranteed to at least air the pilot.--Ditto51 (My Talk Page) 15:46, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
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Superhero costumes inspired from Marvel movies. Zyanahault (talk) 07:55, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. B E C K Y S A Y L E S 08:11, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
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In the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel_Cinematic_Universe#Television_series, Marvel's Daredevil Season 3 has some HTML/CSS visible. Please fix. 93.104.123.125 (talk) 09:46, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
- This is transcluded from List of Marvel Cinematic Universe television series. — JJMC89 (T·C) 10:03, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
- Yes, there was an error in the table over at the TV page. I've fixed it now, so if you are still having the issue you might just need to refresh the page or something. - adamstom97 (talk) 10:14, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
Grammar Error
In the article, it says:
"Actor's contracts also feature clauses that allows Marvel to use up to three minutes of an actor's performance from one film for another, which Marvel describes as 'bridging materal'."
It should be:
"Actors' contracts also feature clauses that allow Marvel to use up to three minutes of an actor's performance from one film for anther, which Marvel describes as 'bridging material'."
Please fix this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adevens6 (talk • contribs) 19:56, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
Marvel's Most Wanted
Should Marvels Most Wanted be included in the ABC section of TV shows instead of listed in a Pilot section? Three reasons: 1. All the other shows are organized based on tv company, i.e. ABC, Netflix, Freeform. 2. The show was created for ABC. 3. It is a spin-off of the show Marvel's Agents of SHIELD. Thanks for reading!
- It never aired and never received a series order. It is an unaired pilot. The network sections are for any series that is airing, or did air, or is in development with some form of guarantee to air (ie being picked up for series, or a put-pilot order in Damage Control's case). - Favre1fan93 (talk) 21:35, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
TV Series section table
There has been a disagreement between me and 2 other wikipedians on whether the cancelled TV pilot for Marvel's Most Wanted should exists in the "Television Series" section. As far as I am concerned, the table should only include the aired/to be aired series, any cancelled pilot or unaired pilot (not series) should be removed entirely (be it on a separate table header or not) plus it is not a TV Series yet (and supposedly will not be) to be put under the "TV Series" section but shall remain intact in the List of Marvel Cinematic Universe television series article.
My other point is on the notability of the main article itself which I am less concerned with, but still need to be mentioned here though since one of their argument for inclusion in the TV Series section is it has its own article. According to WP:TVSERIES guideline, television pilots which have not been picked up to series are not normally eligible for wikipedia articles, and this clearly made Most Wanted pilot article not notable. I've been asked to send the article to AfD but I am reluctant to since I am not really a fan of article deletion plus I don't want to drag all of this into complexities. Arteyu ? Blame it on me ! 06:18, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
- Firstly, concerning the notability of the article, WP:TVSERIES says that to stop people from creating non-notable stub articles about TV series don't even get picked up and are forgotten about several months later. But there can be exceptions to that, especially if the editors put in the work and make a high quality article. I think the outcome of any AfD would agree with me, when I say that the pilot is clearly notable enough to have its own article from the number of high quality sources in the article, and the article as it is deserves to exist due to its own high quality. So in general you would be right in suggesting that an unaired pilot not get its own article, but this is one of the few exceptions.
- As for its inclusion in this article, there is no established rule saying that the table can only include happening series, we get to create the criteria for inclusion ourselves. And I feel that an episode that actually exists, and is notable enough to have its own article, really should be listed here where everyone can find it. We clearly note that it didn't go beyond the pilot stage and that it is unaired, and we keep it separate from all the actual TV series, so I really don't see the harm in having it here, and in fact, I think we are doing a disservice to the pilot article and to our readers if we hide it away from then. Basically, if we have it in the TV article, but separate from the TV series, why shouldn't we have it in the TV article's overview table, but separate from the TV series? - adamstom97 (talk) 06:47, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
- Can't really add much else to what Adam said. The pilot passes WP:GNG to have its own article; WP:TVSERIES is to prevent someone from creating an article about a pilot that gets ordered and subsequently passed on, and the only info may be those two pieces of news, and maybe an actor. The info for this passed pilot far exceeds that info, and has enough coverage, on par with Aquaman (TV pilot) and Wonder Woman (TV pilot) to have an article. As for including in the table, the episode was to be part of the MCU so there needs to be a mention of it somewhere. Since it was another TV series (albeit just the pilot and passed on), it is best to be included in the TV series section, clearly defined that it was a pilot only that did not air. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 18:01, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
- hmm, what was said seemed equitable Arteyu ? Blame it on me ! 08:05, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
- Can't really add much else to what Adam said. The pilot passes WP:GNG to have its own article; WP:TVSERIES is to prevent someone from creating an article about a pilot that gets ordered and subsequently passed on, and the only info may be those two pieces of news, and maybe an actor. The info for this passed pilot far exceeds that info, and has enough coverage, on par with Aquaman (TV pilot) and Wonder Woman (TV pilot) to have an article. As for including in the table, the episode was to be part of the MCU so there needs to be a mention of it somewhere. Since it was another TV series (albeit just the pilot and passed on), it is best to be included in the TV series section, clearly defined that it was a pilot only that did not air. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 18:01, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
- A bit off topic but I just realized that Adrianne Palicki is in all of these failed pilots mentioned here.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 18:05, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
- Oh yeah. Look at that. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 18:16, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
- A bit off topic but I just realized that Adrianne Palicki is in all of these failed pilots mentioned here.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 18:05, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
Third Opinion
A Third Opinion has been requested. There are already three editors, so I am declining the Third Opinion request, which would be a Fourth Opinion. Try the dispute resolution noticeboard or a Request for Comments. Robert McClenon (talk) 13:07, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
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