Talk:JonTron

Article reads like a list

While it is notable, the article reads a lot like a timeline list, which isn't a very good way to convey the information as almost every section reads like this. I don't know what WP tag covers this though or how to convert the current content to something more readable. 216.243.63.186 (talk) 23:03, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

• Article has been updated to read less like a list. 【Zagexma】 00:32, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Archive

A bunch of statements for the contested deletion of this article (the majority from Reddit, one imagines) have been archived to Talk:Jonathan Jafari/Archive 1. — foxj 01:15, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

Requested move 2 May 2016

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Moved  — Amakuru (talk) 17:28, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

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Jon Jafari → JonTron – As per WP:COMMONNAME and WP:PSEUDONYM. Most resources refer to him by that name; JonTron has ~420,000 hits on Google versus ~225,000 for Jon Jafari. Google Trends: JonTron v. Jon Jafari.

Am a bit hesitant to move this uncontroversially because 1) the article has just been created and 2) "JonTron" is fully protected due to repeated recreation in the past. Satellizer el Bridget ^(Talk) 11:09, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

• Support – Just looking at the titles of the sources should make this clear. It is definitely the subject's common name. I don't think it's a controversial move, no, thogh I find it curious that the article now (finally) exists. The article won't get deleted this time? ~Mable (chat) 11:20, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

  I would suggest taking this to AfD if you disagree, but I believe there are now more than enough reliable sources to warrant the article's existence. — foxj 12:10, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

• I would support this. — foxj 12:10, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
  • I would support this as well, notable people like Arin Hanson are more commonly known by their internet pseudonyms. 【Zagexma】 15:56, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
• Support per nom. Disregarding the question of notability, the person is better known by their pseudonym. Someone else can AfD this again if they want to. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 15:33, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
• Support per COMMONNAME — Wikipedia does not necessarily use the subject's "official" name as an article title; it generally prefers to use the name that is most frequently used to refer to the subject in English-language reliable sources. CookieMonster755 ^{📞 ✉ ✓} 18:32, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
• Support per COMMONNAME, if a person is known as X but is actually called Y by the common public the Y should be the wikipedia name. Snoop_Dogg, 50_Cent, Eminem, Egoraptor, iJustine, Markiplier and numerous others. This page should also redirect to JonTron. avalean (talk) 18:39, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
• Support per COMMONNAME - More people search for "JonTron" then do search for "Jon(athan) Jafari". It's far more easily recognizable, and should definitely be used instead. TheSqrtMinus1 23:16, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
• Support per COMMONNAME. We clearly have examples of this for other internet personalities (eg PewDiePie, Markiplier) Leave redirect on this page for obvious reasons. --MASEM (t) 18:31, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Uh, can we close this...? Thesqrtminus1^(talk) 16:56, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

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Photo Search

Just spoke to Mr. Jafari, he approves of the page and we should be getting a Creative Commons approved photo any time now. 【Zagexma】 23:35, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

@Zagexma: Heh, nice. Would be cool to have. Make sure he explicitly publishes it under a Creative Commons license (see WP:DONATEIMAGE for the reasoning). :) (also, hi reddit) — foxj 00:37, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 3 May 2016

I am the author of the original draft of this page as seen here, and would like to add more sources that I find as well as continue to add new information. 【Zagexma】 00:47, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

@Zagexma: This template's just for specific edits. I think the protection was a mistake so have contacted the admin for clarification. If you want to make a specific edit please detail it below in the same way you requested this edit. Thanks, and sorry for the inconvenience! — foxj 00:53, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Personal/Early Life

I want to gather some resources on Jon's early/personal life. I know he attended Palos Verdes Peninsula High School along with some other YouTubers. He is of Persian decent on his father's side. I also know that he had a Newgrounds account under the name BirdmanXZ6 where he made animations about onions[1]. Most of these facts I know simply because they were stated on Game Grumps, but I cannot find any legitimate sources that say these things. Perhaps we can get Jon to write a post similar to Egoraptor's?: [2] 【Zagexma】 21:21, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

I would strongly recommend against referencing a self-published source; see WP:PRIMARY. — foxj 17:55, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

Source for middle name?

I found this link, although I'm not sure if it's entirely credible. It cites Jafari's middle name as "Aryan," and his birthdate and location of birth are a match. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VG8Z-6WQ Anthonymous (talk) 22:59, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

• Found him on Ancestry as well, probably the same birth record.[3] 【Zagexma】 23:38, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

NB to editors

Please try to avoid citing facts to Jon's YouTube channel or to random tweets. These are primary sources and not suitable for Wikipedia. Thanks! — foxj 17:50, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

Seriously, we need a picture.

Thesqrtminus1^(talk) 13:29, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

• Thesqrtminus1 - Been emailing back and forth with Jon, got him to release a picture under commons, so this one's here to stay ;) 【Zagexma】 16:46, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

@Zagexma: I know this is a pain in the ass, but can you please have Jon email permissions-enwikimedia.org to confirm that the picture is his. As it is, it will look like "Flickr washing" (creating a Flickr account to upload copyrighted stuff under a "free license"). Thanks! — foxj 02:27, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

JonTron Show page?

Shouldn't there be a separate page for the actual JonTronShow episodes? This is a biography on Jon Jafari himself, but there should definitely be a seperate page for the JonTronShow.

101.161.9.29 (talk) 10:32, 16 January 2017 (UTC)