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I really hate to bother you yet again, the third time in a week now or whatever... sigh... But as you were always very helpful and more importantly know quite a lot about lists, i have a question. I was bold and removed a list from an article i found through lurking the dramah boards(i am weird, i know). The entire list of some 190 entries, or thereabout, is entirely sourced by, or sourced through as has been vigorously been pointed out to me, other Wikipedia articles. One editor agreed with my removal of the list while another rolled back without as much as a hint to why. A discussion was started on the talk page and the reason for the revert was "Lists are often used whose sources are in the wikilinked articles". To the point of my question, is that in any way policy based and if so, which policy is it? I did ask on the talk page but did not get any pointer to a policy allowing that, just was told that is how it is. If anything, is is extremely lazy if the sources actually are in the other articles, which they mostly seem to be after a spot check. But i mainly just want to learn for the future, not that i will ever remove anything of the sort again i think, haha. So to sum up, is there a policy that allows lists to be sourced through wikilinked articles? And, is it common practice to do so? Oh and before i forget, keep in mind i found the article by chance so don't judge me, the article is [[:Age of consent]] lol. As i have no interest in the article itself i am not fussed at all about the revert. I just want to understand it policy wise and learn from any mistake i may have made. "That is how it is" is not a reason i could accept without asking on what it is based... So i came here to annoy you yet again, hahaha (sorry about that :P ). [[Special:Contributions/91.49.71.240|91.49.71.240]] ([[User talk:91.49.71.240|talk]]) 03:39, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
I really hate to bother you yet again, the third time in a week now or whatever... sigh... But as you were always very helpful and more importantly know quite a lot about lists, i have a question. I was bold and removed a list from an article i found through lurking the dramah boards(i am weird, i know). The entire list of some 190 entries, or thereabout, is entirely sourced by, or sourced through as has been vigorously been pointed out to me, other Wikipedia articles. One editor agreed with my removal of the list while another rolled back without as much as a hint to why. A discussion was started on the talk page and the reason for the rollback was "Lists are often used whose sources are in the wikilinked articles". To the point of my question, is that in any way policy based and if so, which policy is it? I did ask on the talk page but did not get any pointer to a policy allowing that, just was told that is how it is. If anything, is is extremely lazy if the sources actually are in the other articles, which they mostly seem to be after a spot check. But i mainly just want to learn for the future, not that i will ever remove anything of the sort again i think, haha. So to sum up, is there a policy that allows lists to be sourced through wikilinked articles? And, is it common practice to do so? Oh and before i forget, keep in mind i found the article by chance so don't judge me, the article is [[:Age of consent]] lol. As i have no interest in the article itself i am not fussed at all about the revert. I just want to understand it policy wise and learn from any mistake i may have made. "That is how it is" is not a reason i could accept without asking on what it is based... So i came here to annoy you yet again, hahaha (sorry about that :P ). [[Special:Contributions/91.49.71.240|91.49.71.240]] ([[User talk:91.49.71.240|talk]]) 03:39, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

Revision as of 04:16, 16 December 2017

What TRM is mainly doing these days

Laureus

Gordon Bennett Cup (auto racing)

Primary

  • Now the strongest featured list contributor in the history of the project. Woot!

Locked and loaded

Good to go

Bubbling under

Review

*Any requests? The Rambling Man (talk) 20:02, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Secondary

Ongoing

Complaints?

GO BACK TO YOUR CONSTITUENCIES AND PREPARE FOR GOVERNMENT!!!!

DYK for Laureus World Sports Award for Sportsman of the Year

On 29 October 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Laureus World Sports Award for Sportsman of the Year, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Usain Bolt and Roger Federer have each won the Laureus World Sports Award for Sportsman of the Year a record four times since its inception in 2000? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Laureus World Sports Award for Sportsman of the Year. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Laureus World Sports Award for Sportsman of the Year), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 00:03, 29 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

ITN recognition for Sakharov Prize

On 29 October 2017, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Sakharov Prize, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Stephen 22:58, 29 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Laureus World Sports Award for Breakthrough of the Year

On 2 November 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Laureus World Sports Award for Breakthrough of the Year, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Nico Rosberg was presented with the Laureus World Sports Award for Breakthrough of the Year two months after he retired from Formula One? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Laureus World Sports Award for Breakthrough of the Year. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Laureus World Sports Award for Breakthrough of the Year), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Laureus World Sports Award for Team of the Year

On 9 November 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Laureus World Sports Award for Team of the Year, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Chicago Cubs were awarded the Laureus World Sports Award for Team of the Year after ending their 108-year World Series drought in 2016? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Laureus World Sports Award for Team of the Year. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Laureus World Sports Award for Team of the Year), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 9 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for IRPA Try of the Year

On 10 November 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article IRPA Try of the Year, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Chris Ashton celebrated scoring the 2010 IRPA Try of the Year with an "Ash-Splash"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/IRPA Try of the Year. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, IRPA Try of the Year), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Laureus World Sports Award for Sportswoman of the Year

On 15 November 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Laureus World Sports Award for Sportswoman of the Year, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Serena Williams (pictured) has won the Laureus World Sports Award for Sportswoman of the Year three times, first in 2003 and most recently in 2016? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Laureus World Sports Award for Sportswoman of the Year. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Laureus World Sports Award for Sportswoman of the Year), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 15 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Laureus World Sports Awards

The article Laureus World Sports Awards you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Laureus World Sports Awards for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of MWright96 -- MWright96 (talk) 09:02, 17 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Laureus Lifetime Achievement Award

On 20 November 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Laureus Lifetime Achievement Award, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Norwegian mountaineer Arne Næss Jr. died in a climbing accident four months before he could accept his Laureus Lifetime Achievement Award? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Laureus Lifetime Achievement Award. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Laureus Lifetime Achievement Award), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 20 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Laureus World Sports Award for Comeback of the Year

On 26 November 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Laureus World Sports Award for Comeback of the Year, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that American Olympic swimmer Michael Phelps won the Laureus World Sports Award for Comeback of the Year after retiring twice? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Laureus World Sports Award for Comeback of the Year. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Laureus World Sports Award for Comeback of the Year), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 26 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Laureus World Sports Awards

On 2 December 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Laureus World Sports Awards, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in 2017, a team of refugees won the Sporting Inspiration Award at the Laureus World Sports Awards? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Laureus World Sports Awards. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Laureus World Sports Awards), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 2 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for List of Red Bull Air Race World Championship winners

On 6 December 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article List of Red Bull Air Race World Championship winners, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the British aerobatics pilot Paul Bonhomme (pictured) has won the Red Bull Air Race World Championship a record three times? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/List of Red Bull Air Race World Championship winners. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, List of Red Bull Air Race World Championship winners), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:04, 6 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

On 6 December 2017, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Russia at the 2018 Winter Olympics, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Stephen 04:05, 6 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

ITN recognition for Max Clifford

On 10 December 2017, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Max Clifford, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Stephen 22:57, 10 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I pondered creating an article for this some time back (it was the Saturday Superstore number as well as Swap Shop) but couldn't find enough sources. Maybe if enough Cheggers obituaries name-check it, there'll be enough for a DYK like "did you know that in the 1970s, the only number kids could remember was 01 811 8055?" Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 21:31, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yup, that's amazeballs. When Cheggers' passing was noted today, a whole host of childhood memories came flooding back, remember Posh Paws? Remember TISWAS? Remember Stu Pot and the cabbages? The Rambling Man (talk) 21:32, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Certainly do. Whatever happened to the cast of Rentaghost? I can't remember TISWAS too much as back then you got middle-class parents who wouldn't dream of letting their kids watch such downmarket trash like ITV .... except when the BBC went on strike. (though see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/01 811 8055) Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 21:37, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Well Popov went to Corrie, and as for the rest of them, who knows? Master Timothy reminds me of Freddie Mercury (in my head)... The Rambling Man (talk) 21:54, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I remember doing a group read-through of A Midsummer Night's Dream at school, and in Act 3, scene 1, whoever was supposed to say Bottom's line of "Methinks, mistress, you should have little reason for that" changed it to "Methinks, mistress Meaker...." and delivered it exactly how Timothy Claypole would have done. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 22:03, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Shit, Michael Staniforth, aka Claypole, died of an AIDS-related illness, four years before Mercury. Sad face. The Rambling Man (talk) 22:06, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Another reminder that they used to feed our child brain's stuff that would forever corrupt us... The Rambling Man (talk) 22:07, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

ITN recognition for Keith Chegwin

On 12 December 2017, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Keith Chegwin, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Stephen 10:20, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Auto archiving

I raised this at Wikipedia:Bot requests#Automatic archiving. The author of IABot says it does create new archives if an old one does not exist, and I see that is correct. I ran it on List of Sites of Special Scientific Interest in Suffolk on 6 September, and it added old archive pages, 9 new ones dated 6 September and some not at all. So the bot does create new archives where one does not exist, but sometimes archiving fails for no apparent reason. Dudley Miles (talk) 17:43, 13 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, good news! I use it as a matter of course these days prior to FLC/GAN/FAC nominations, so it's good to know it's doing its best. To that end, you may be happy to know therefore that I'm doing my best (with limited resources) to get as many sources archived as possible! Thanks for your note. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:07, 13 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

I thought after yesterdays DYK replacement that i wanted to say thank you. Not just for the work you, and others, do every day to make sure the main page is of good quality but also because errors is one of the few places where it makes no difference who brings up an issue. All that matters is quality and fixing issues. For me at least there is no second thought of bringing things up there because i get treated as a human, so... thank you. Nothing world chaning but i thought a small note of my appreciation was due for your work. 91.49.94.126 (talk) 11:24, 14 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers boss. The Rambling Man (talk) 11:31, 14 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Hope you don't expect a christmas bonus now, hahaha 91.49.94.126 (talk) 11:39, 14 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I occasionally edit logged out just to see what people do, and also occasionally tar and feather those who assume all IP editors are vandals. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 15:53, 14 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I know of other admins who do precisely that. Interesting. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:04, 14 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Yup, see here. Pretty sure Drmies does it from time to time. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 19:53, 14 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Quite interesting that some people do that. I just do not feel the need to make an account for the few things i do like fixing a random typo or reporting an error and the like. English is not my first language anyway and i don't really feel confident enough to write in a good enough tone for an encyclopedia... so why bother. And honestly, i am just too proud to make an account just so i would get treated in a decent manner (of course i had some quite nice interactions with people, Drmies being one of them for example). But it is incredibly frustrating to get reverted when one undos vandalism by a named account because obviously any IP undoing things is a revert on sight offense. My choice not to make an account though and so complaining about it is a bit rediculous, haha. But honestly, if i were a vandal i would instantly make an account because it would seem easier and more likely to "succeed", in the loosest sense of the word, with ones nonsense. 91.49.94.126 (talk) 01:18, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The Boat Races 2017 scheduled for TFA

This is to let you know that the The Boat Races 2017 article has been scheduled as today's featured article for January 21, 2018. Please check the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/January 21, 2018, but note that a coordinator will trim the lead to around 1100 characters anyway, so you aren't obliged to do so. Thanks! Jimfbleak - talk to me? 15:18, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Jimfbleak thanks, but it seems a shame not to run it closer or on the date of the 2018 races, scheduled for Saturday, 24 March? The Rambling Man (talk) 22:25, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

TFL notification

Hi, TRM. I've selected Robot Hall of Fame to make a Main Page appearance on January 8, 2018. The blurb is here, in case you want to tweak it. Cheers. Giants2008 (Talk) 22:22, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Giants2008 looks good to me, thanks for the note. The Rambling Man (talk) 22:24, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Question

I really hate to bother you yet again, the third time in a week now or whatever... sigh... But as you were always very helpful and more importantly know quite a lot about lists, i have a question. I was bold and removed a list from an article i found through lurking the dramah boards(i am weird, i know). The entire list of some 190 entries, or thereabout, is entirely sourced by, or sourced through as has been vigorously been pointed out to me, other Wikipedia articles. One editor agreed with my removal of the list while another rolled back without as much as a hint to why. A discussion was started on the talk page and the reason for the rollback was "Lists are often used whose sources are in the wikilinked articles". To the point of my question, is that in any way policy based and if so, which policy is it? I did ask on the talk page but did not get any pointer to a policy allowing that, just was told that is how it is. If anything, is is extremely lazy if the sources actually are in the other articles, which they mostly seem to be after a spot check. But i mainly just want to learn for the future, not that i will ever remove anything of the sort again i think, haha. So to sum up, is there a policy that allows lists to be sourced through wikilinked articles? And, is it common practice to do so? Oh and before i forget, keep in mind i found the article by chance so don't judge me, the article is Age of consent lol. As i have no interest in the article itself i am not fussed at all about the revert. I just want to understand it policy wise and learn from any mistake i may have made. "That is how it is" is not a reason i could accept without asking on what it is based... So i came here to annoy you yet again, hahaha (sorry about that :P ). 91.49.71.240 (talk) 03:39, 16 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]