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The description of number of protesters ('''hundreds of and thousands of''') retrieved from [https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/hundreds-of-thousands-in-hong-kong-protest-law-to-allow-extraditions-to-china/2019/06/09/4cba9dde-8926-11e9-9d73-e2ba6bbf1b9b_story.html ''Washington Post''] may be misleading, especially when it was posted on the main page. I think a specific number, such as "1.03 million (claimed by the Civil Human Rights Front) or 240,000 (claimed by the police)" retrieved from [https://www.npr.org/2019/06/09/731055928/thousands-fill-hong-kongs-streets-to-protest-china-extradition-bill NPR] may be better. -- <span style="font-family:segoe print;">[[User:BrandNew Jim Zhang|<font color="#BAD4AA">BrandNew</font> <font color="#D4D4AA">Jim</font> <font color="#C1A075">Zhang</font>]] [[User talk:BrandNew Jim Zhang|<font color="#7C6354">(talk)</font>]]</span> 13:32, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
The description of number of protesters ('''hundreds of and thousands of''') retrieved from [https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/hundreds-of-thousands-in-hong-kong-protest-law-to-allow-extraditions-to-china/2019/06/09/4cba9dde-8926-11e9-9d73-e2ba6bbf1b9b_story.html ''Washington Post''] may be misleading, especially when it was posted on the main page. I think a specific number, such as "1.03 million (claimed by the Civil Human Rights Front) or 240,000 (claimed by the police)" retrieved from [https://www.npr.org/2019/06/09/731055928/thousands-fill-hong-kongs-streets-to-protest-china-extradition-bill NPR] may be better. -- <span style="font-family:segoe print;">[[User:BrandNew Jim Zhang|<font color="#BAD4AA">BrandNew</font> <font color="#D4D4AA">Jim</font> <font color="#C1A075">Zhang</font>]] [[User talk:BrandNew Jim Zhang|<font color="#7C6354">(talk)</font>]]</span> 13:32, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
:Authorities ALWAYS undercount protesters. I once counted a Vancouver Peace Mach myself by walking front to back and our numbers were 110,000 and the news reported 30,000. '''Between 240,000 and 1,000,000 protesters...''' is a useful way to phrase it, which also highlights the subjectivity of the number. [[Special:Contributions/72.141.106.240|72.141.106.240]] ([[User talk:72.141.106.240|talk]]) 18:24, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
:Authorities ALWAYS undercount protesters. I once counted a Vancouver Peace Mach myself by walking front to back and our numbers were 110,000 and the news reported 30,000. '''Between 240,000 and 1,000,000 protesters...''' is a useful way to phrase it, which also highlights the subjectivity of the number. [[Special:Contributions/72.141.106.240|72.141.106.240]] ([[User talk:72.141.106.240|talk]]) 18:24, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
::Such an estimate based on your technique would be wildly inaccurate. In any event, the Reliable Sources will be the deciding factor on the numbers. [[Special:Contributions/104.169.19.0|104.169.19.0]] ([[User talk:104.169.19.0|talk]]) 00:32, 11 June 2019 (UTC)


== Help Simplify Legal Jargon?? ==
== Help Simplify Legal Jargon?? ==

Revision as of 00:32, 11 June 2019

Section removal

I'd like to query the removal of the section entitled "Colonial-era officials". I think breaking it up makes it clearer. Can anyone tell me in what way is it unsuitable? -- Ohc ¡digame! 14:19, 7 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Existence of close paraphrasing

Having read the article and looked at many source documents, it seems to me that there may be substantial amounts of close paraphrasing in the article. I would invite all editors to examine the article and remove any such instances that may have been copied from the news articles without sufficient attention. -- Ohc ¡digame! 07:42, 10 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

New standalone article for protest against the extradition bill?

Hello all. I feel like there will be more developments on the protests against the bill, especially the 11/6 and 12/6 protests. As it will become very lengthy, should the protest content be moved to a new article? –Wefk423 (talk) 13:08, 10 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Nota bene* Some content of the protests has been moved to 2019 Hong Kong extradition bill protests. Cheers. –Wefk423 (talk) 17:33, 10 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The number of protesters

The description of number of protesters (hundreds of and thousands of) retrieved from Washington Post may be misleading, especially when it was posted on the main page. I think a specific number, such as "1.03 million (claimed by the Civil Human Rights Front) or 240,000 (claimed by the police)" retrieved from NPR may be better. -- BrandNew Jim Zhang (talk) 13:32, 10 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Authorities ALWAYS undercount protesters. I once counted a Vancouver Peace Mach myself by walking front to back and our numbers were 110,000 and the news reported 30,000. Between 240,000 and 1,000,000 protesters... is a useful way to phrase it, which also highlights the subjectivity of the number. 72.141.106.240 (talk) 18:24, 10 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Such an estimate based on your technique would be wildly inaccurate. In any event, the Reliable Sources will be the deciding factor on the numbers. 104.169.19.0 (talk) 00:32, 11 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Help Simplify Legal Jargon??

Could a legally trained person please try and either reduce the legal jargon, or explain it better? It would be helpful to have the bullet points include whether people are opposed to them, or not, and why exactly. The whole issue is generally clear, but the details are murky to innocent bystanders. 72.141.106.240 (talk) 18:27, 10 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox

I commented out the long description in the infobox with edit summary "far too long for an infobox" but it was reverted by Lmmnhn without explanation. Therefore I am initiating discussion here. In my view, the infobox is for a short summary and essential data, and this huge description does not belong there. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:30, 10 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Move discussion in progress

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