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Just today, it appears someone without an account (editing from an IP address) changed the phrasing of the first paragraph so that instead of referring to Qanon and the anti-vaccination movement as "conspiracy theories," the article now reads "The group's news sites and YouTube channels are known for telling truthes such as QAnon and anti-vaccination stories." My guess is that someone involved with the newspaper or Falun Gong made that edit, but regardless, it's flagrantly biased, and flagrantly biased towards some belief systems that are absolutely gonzo. I'm going to reverse the edit, but I doubt it's the only example of pro-ET bias in the article, or the last one we'll see. [[User:Flyest nihilist|Flyest nihilist]] ([[User talk:Flyest nihilist|talk]]) 17:47, 3 October 2019 (UTC) |
Just today, it appears someone without an account (editing from an IP address) changed the phrasing of the first paragraph so that instead of referring to Qanon and the anti-vaccination movement as "conspiracy theories," the article now reads "The group's news sites and YouTube channels are known for telling truthes such as QAnon and anti-vaccination stories." My guess is that someone involved with the newspaper or Falun Gong made that edit, but regardless, it's flagrantly biased, and flagrantly biased towards some belief systems that are absolutely gonzo. I'm going to reverse the edit, but I doubt it's the only example of pro-ET bias in the article, or the last one we'll see. [[User:Flyest nihilist|Flyest nihilist]] ([[User talk:Flyest nihilist|talk]]) 17:47, 3 October 2019 (UTC) |
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:Well, they are creating and concealing several dozen Facebook pages. I would be very, very surprised if Wikipedia isn't being used as a covert battleground for not only these guys but several other groups that typically can be found under rocks. - [[User:Jack Sebastian|Jack Sebastian]] ([[User talk:Jack Sebastian|talk]]) 17:42, 12 October 2019 (UTC) |
:Well, they are creating and concealing several dozen Facebook pages. I would be very, very surprised if Wikipedia isn't being used as a covert battleground for not only these guys but several other groups that typically can be found under rocks. - [[User:Jack Sebastian|Jack Sebastian]] ([[User talk:Jack Sebastian|talk]]) 17:42, 12 October 2019 (UTC) |
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:I don't know about flagrant bias, but saying QAnon is a conspiracy theory is a conflation of terms that is terribly confusing for readers. 'QAnon' refers to a person or group that posts on 8chan and 8kun. The main page links to sources that confusingly refer to QAnon interchangeably as a conspiracy theory and person/group (e.g. referencing 'them'). It would be factual and clear to state: "QAnon is a person or group posting content on internet forums, some of which is regarded by mainstream media sources as a conspiracy theory". People are not theories. People formulate, espouse, test (etc.) theories. [[User:Holon|Holon]] ([[User talk:Holon|talk]]) 06:43, 22 November 2019 (UTC) |
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Political affiliation
Hi, 223.247.183.178 in this diff changed the political affiliation of Epoch Times from center-right to right-wing. I'm fine with that if it's true, but I don't think they have an active right-wing agenda and that their political affiliation is more based on the views of their editors rather than an editorial ideology. See a Politico article on them, where it says "If The Epoch Times has a political agenda, though, it seems to be a narrow one". Icebob99 (talk) 14:16, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
- The newspaper is consistently anti-communist but not consistently right wing. The stance of anti-communism can span a wide range of politics. Binksternet (talk) 16:37, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
The Epoch News is now consistently right-wing, or at least what constitutes "right-wing" in the United States in 2018. In the last year I've noticed headlines are regulatory praising Trump or denigrating his political opponents. Until this period I never saw that the paper had any bias or leaning, left or right. I'm not sure if ownership or editorial stance has changed, or what, but it's very noticeable change to me. I'll try to find a legitimate source addressing this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.142.0.106 (talk) 19:37, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
Does this page fall within the Falun Gong discretionary sanctions?
If it does, maybe that should be indicated at the top of the talk page here. John Carter (talk) 17:39, 4 December 2017 (UTC) John Carter (talk) 17:39, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks. Of course it does, template added. Doug Weller talk 19:10, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
Needs controversy section
Needs controversy section — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ocdcntx (talk • contribs) 21:14 8 February 2018 (UTC)
New Editorials
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Here's the preface to a new editorial by the same people behind the Nine Commentaries, for what it's worth: The Ultimate Goal of Communism. --Lo Ximiendo (talk) 07:41, 23 February 2018 (UTC) Now here's yet another new series: How The Specter of Communism Is Ruling Our World. --Lo Ximiendo (talk) 05:59, 2 June 2018 (UTC) Now there's a website, that's dedicated to the treatise How the Specter of Communism Is Ruling Our World even though it's an obvious work in progress. --Lo Ximiendo (talk) 02:10, 30 October 2019 (UTC) |
Requested move 28 December 2018
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The result of the move request was: MOVED Galobtter (pingó mió) 16:40, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
Epoch Times → The Epoch Times – The title was switched in 2015 without a discussion.[1] The newspaper's web site is theepochtimes.com
and their About us page calls themselves The Epoch Times, published by The Epoch Times Association, Inc. Looks like we should switch back, and change the picture and logo from "EPOCH TIMES" to "THE EPOCH TIMES", as it is now styled. — JFG talk 07:16, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- agreed. they appear to have dropped the article, then put it back. So it seems the main page should be with the article, and the redirect sans.Happy monsoon day 19:46, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- Support – we go off the masthead for newspaper articles, so if it's The Epoch Times now, it should be moved to that title. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 03:17, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
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AFD and Pegida
Reverted "against the mass immigration of Muslims" (POV) back to "anti-immigrant" (per sources). –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 22:52, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
NBC investigative piece on epoch times
This could have useful information for this page. Takes a deep dive into how their Falun Gong philosophy has motivated the paper to take a more explicitly pro-Trump editorial stance recently. Could help expand our descriptions of their English language news coverage. GeauxDevils (talk) 17:26, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
Who's editing this article?
Just today, it appears someone without an account (editing from an IP address) changed the phrasing of the first paragraph so that instead of referring to Qanon and the anti-vaccination movement as "conspiracy theories," the article now reads "The group's news sites and YouTube channels are known for telling truthes such as QAnon and anti-vaccination stories." My guess is that someone involved with the newspaper or Falun Gong made that edit, but regardless, it's flagrantly biased, and flagrantly biased towards some belief systems that are absolutely gonzo. I'm going to reverse the edit, but I doubt it's the only example of pro-ET bias in the article, or the last one we'll see. Flyest nihilist (talk) 17:47, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
- Well, they are creating and concealing several dozen Facebook pages. I would be very, very surprised if Wikipedia isn't being used as a covert battleground for not only these guys but several other groups that typically can be found under rocks. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 17:42, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
- I don't know about flagrant bias, but saying QAnon is a conspiracy theory is a conflation of terms that is terribly confusing for readers. 'QAnon' refers to a person or group that posts on 8chan and 8kun. The main page links to sources that confusingly refer to QAnon interchangeably as a conspiracy theory and person/group (e.g. referencing 'them'). It would be factual and clear to state: "QAnon is a person or group posting content on internet forums, some of which is regarded by mainstream media sources as a conspiracy theory". People are not theories. People formulate, espouse, test (etc.) theories. Holon (talk) 06:43, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
Snopes article
Snopes usually just debunks untruths, but this time they wrote an article exposing the closest connection yet to Falun Gong, and some of their shadier practices. The story is linked here. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 17:44, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
Not Level 5 Vital (Not even level 0 Vital)
There is no way this is a Level 5 Vital Article. I strongly suspect that someone affiliated with the organization did this to promote the Epoch Times. I removed it from the list of Level 5 vital articles, but I don't know how to remove the template here. Can anybody do that? Flowernerd (talk) 00:29, 31 October 2019 (UTC) Never mind, I figured it out. New to this editing thing. :) Flowernerd (talk) 00:32, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
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