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== Cellemetry Data Services - Please review changes that were suggested ==


I believe I made the changes as you suggested and added the link to three references. The last review was March 17th. Can you please let me know if there is anything else standing in the way of getting this published?
== [[Draft: Paul J. Tesar]] ==
November 22, 2019: Hi AngusWOOF, thank you for your helpful feedback for construction of this draft. The changes have been made and references improved to include news articles rather than primary citations.
Please let me know if it now fits Wikipedia standards.
Thank you-


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== [[Draft: BAITSSS]] ==
Hi AngusWOOF,


: {{u| CSYguy}}, the intro reads like it's going to be some essay, and should be rewritten to just present what it is. Is it a service? A company? A technology? Please see [[MOS:LEAD]] [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 16:55, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
Your suggestions had been incorporated in this draft, please let me know if it had been improved or anything needs to be done.
: {{u| CSYguy}}, it looks like the article has been approved and updated. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 16:01, 25 September 2019 (UTC)


==Draft:Manjappada Kerala Blasters FC==
Thanks
I have submitted several time for approval. but you declined, can you help us to improve the article. there are other articles example [[West Block Blues]]. they are the fan club of [[Bengaluru FC]] But they dont have enough content in their article. How they got approval.[[User:KBFCmaneesh|KBFCmaneesh]] ([[User talk:KBFCmaneesh|talk]]) 05:56, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
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: {{u|129.130.88.169}}, how does "Estimating Water use by Vegetation is crucial for conserving water, managing Irrigation, and acquiring Water right information of individuals for Legal purpose. Farmers need these information to apply accurate Water in Crop for optimum Crop yield...." introduce what the BAITSSS is? It should start with the second paragraph and be more concise. It needs a history of the term / project. Who created it? How was it funded? How was it rolled out? Is it still active? [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 16:55, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
: {{u| KBFCmaneesh}}, you need more external news sources independent of the subject to show notability for the organization. See [[WP:ORGCRIT]] and [[WP:GNG]]. And please do not keep resubmiting after every little tweak until you have strong enough sources. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 15:43, 13 September 2019 (UTC)


: As the submitter has been banned, this does not need further discussion, but others not associated with the submitter can continue drafting on this. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 17:11, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
Great, I have incorporated your various suggestions. I would appreciate if you review again.


== Draft rereview ==
Not sure about history and rolled out, this draft is based on the fact what is found in the web. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/129.130.88.169|129.130.88.169]] ([[User talk:129.130.88.169#top|talk]]) 18:37, 18 October 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


I have taken up responsibility for this draft and have drastically rewritten and filled in many missing citations.
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[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Insyde_(musician)] <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:UseTheWiki|UseTheWiki]] ([[User talk:UseTheWiki#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/UseTheWiki|contribs]]) 06:55, 15 September 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


: {{u|129.130.88.169}}, the article already has a bit of the history and origins in the lead paragraph. It just needs to be explained in better detail in a History section. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 19:06, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
: {{u| UseTheWiki }}, so why are you still referencing IMDb and other not so reliable sources? How does this person meets [[WP:MUSICBIO]]? [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 09:26, 15 September 2019 (UTC)


::{{u|AngusWOOF}}
Added small section of history as per found in web. Can you please let me know? <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/129.130.88.169|129.130.88.169]] ([[User talk:129.130.88.169#top|talk]]) 15:24, 19 October 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot- -->
::IMDb is allowed as a citation as long as it is not part of the user generated review content. The IMDb editor reviewed content such as cast lists are considered reliable.


::The subject of the article is mentioned in more than one, nontrivial, independent, and reliable sources. [[User:UseTheWiki|UseTheWiki]] ([[User talk:UseTheWiki|talk]]) 16:16, 15 September 2019 (UTC)


::: {{u| UseTheWiki }}, no, IMDb cast listings are user-generated and are NOT reliable. Only the WGA credits are. See [[WP:CITEIMDB]] [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 16:25, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
::: {{u| UseTheWiki }}, the sources needs to be checked to see if they are random blogs or actual notable reliable sources. They should also not be promotional and not tied to the subject / interviews [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 16:26, 15 September 2019 (UTC)


:::: {{u|AngusWOOF}} Sorry, I misunderstood the IMDb accepted uses. Also now that you pointed that out, I only see two reliable sources, and the subject needs multiple more. Thanks for the feedback! [[User:UseTheWiki|UseTheWiki]] ([[User talk:UseTheWiki|talk]]) 02:37, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
Does anyone know what is the problem in this draft, I have updated some? <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:IDKANS|IDKANS]] ([[User talk:IDKANS#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/IDKANS|contribs]]) 14:49, 7 November 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


== Move fast and break things dab ==
:: {{u| IDKANS}}, it still looks overly technical like a journal report, see [[WP:NOTJOURNAL]]. It doesn't need to be a status update or a mirror of a website. I'm also concerned if any of the editors on this are connected to the program or the research group. If so, they should declare [[WP:COI]]. It's still in the submission queue, so other AFC reviewers can take a look from a fresh perspective. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 15:14, 7 November 2019 (UTC)


I reverted this as the quote is not mentioned in Zuckerberg's article per [[MOS:DABMENTION]] [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 19:44, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
Not sure about all these micro details, but for me, it looks a nice model description and better than many models described in the wiki. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:IDKANS|IDKANS]] ([[User talk:IDKANS#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/IDKANS|contribs]]) 15:16, 7 November 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
: Will you implement any alternative constructive idea so as not to imply to the user that this sentence originated on the cover of Jonathan Taplin's book?--[[User:Reseletti|Reseletti]] ([[User talk:Reseletti#top|talk]]) 20:01, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
:: You could add something in Zuckerberg's article about it, or mention in Taplin's article that it originated from Zuckerberg's catchphrase. It would still redirect to the book though, but at least a hatnote would not require the dabmention. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 12:48, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
::: "You could" :-(
::: I think your revert is destructive.--[[User:Reseletti|Reseletti]] ([[User talk:Reseletti|talk]]) 11:27, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
::: It's sad that you need to guard your contributions on Wikipedia from people who just revert edits because of mere formal mistakes rather than correcting themselves. What if people didn't check back on all their contributions to see if anyone tries to force them to learn the intricacies of Wikipedia rules and try again?--[[User:Reseletti|Reseletti]] ([[User talk:Reseletti|talk]]) 11:44, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
:::: {{u| Reseletti}}, I've redirected this to Facebook as a motto, and created [[Move Fast and Break Things (book)]] for [[Jonathan Taplin]]' s book. If you want to make it a hatnote, you're welcome to, but I think this would suffice. It doesn't need to be a disambiguation, as it is only two items per [[WP:TWODABS]] and again, because the motto is not explicitly mentioned in the article. Per [[MOS:DABMENTION]], neither Zuckerberg's article or Facebook's article even mentions this motto, so disambiguation is not needed. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 17:09, 17 September 2019 (UTC)


{{u| Reseletti }}, I started a discussion at [[ Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Disambiguation_pages#Move_fast_and_break_things_motto]] [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 17:33, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
Seems you have asked many things to add ?? <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:IDKANS|IDKANS]] ([[User talk:IDKANS#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/IDKANS|contribs]]) 15:22, 7 November 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


== Please review my draft. ==
: There is also promotional verbiage in the lead: "The estimation of water use by vegetation is crucial for conserving water, managing Irrigation, acquiring water right information, and crop production.[3][12] Farmers need these information for accurately applying water to crops for optimum yield." Other lines / bullet points read like they are advocating the advantages or using this model over others. This needs to be rewritten neutrally. Also it should be able to have some criticism from others in the scientific community. See [[WP:PROUD]] [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 15:25, 7 November 2019 (UTC)


Hi AngusWOOF.
I don't think so, it seems accurate statement to me. "The estimation of water use by vegetation is crucial for conserving water, managing Irrigation, acquiring water right information, and crop production", there might many other literature to support that.
I submitted an article for [[Phillip Ahn M.D.]] and i have now edited the draft with more information and references. I am confused why the original comment "seemss like one credit in a videogame is not enough" because I did prior research before submitting and [[Daniel Pesina]] has a Wikipedia page and he also is also only known for [[Mortal Kombat II]]. I have linked more references and Ahn's photos are even on WikiMedia Commons already.


I am confused how to resubmit an article for review. My apologies if I am doing it incorrectly.
Regarding the bullet, I think, they are trying to make some distinctions between other models, at least it is from the published manuscripts, not sure about the scientific community. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:IDKANS|IDKANS]] ([[User talk:IDKANS#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/IDKANS|contribs]]) 15:34, 7 November 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


Removed the bullets. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:IDKANS|IDKANS]] ([[User talk:IDKANS#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/IDKANS|contribs]]) 15:40, 7 November 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
Thank you. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Titusthecat|Titusthecat]] ([[User talk:Titusthecat#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Titusthecat|contribs]]) 11:15, 16 September 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


: {{u| IDKANS}}, I just realized the formatting of some other threads got mixed up with the BAITSSS one. Anyway, my point about the "estimation is crucial" phrase, and others like it, is that it carries a promotional advocacy tone. It's like saying "Clean drinking water is good for your health." See [[WP:NPOV]]. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 17:16, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
: {{u| Titusthecat}}, if you think Pesina is not notable even with the news aticles given, then you can nominate that article for deletion or tag notability on it. [[WP:OTHERSTUFF]] Otherwise, I would see if there are any more external news sources to get Ahn's article to be notable. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 12:50, 16 September 2019 (UTC)


: {{u| Titusthecat}}, by the way, I moved the article to [[Draft:Phillip Ahn (martial artist)]] as his notability is as a martial artist / entertainer and not as a doctor, unless he's notable as both, but that would require more news articles. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 16:55, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
Edited as per your points. Not sure, what can be done to make better. Overall, it seems widely published and mentioned in various places. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:IDKANS|IDKANS]] ([[User talk:IDKANS#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/IDKANS|contribs]]) 17:50, 7 November 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


== Benjamin Tod page ==
: {{u| IDKANS}}, another option is to put those opinionated statements as quotes from one of the researchers or reviewing writers, like: Ramesh said that "the estimation of water use by vegetation is crucial for conserving water, managing Irrigation, acquiring water right information, and crop production." (provided he actually said that) [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 18:38, 7 November 2019 (UTC)


Hi,
I think, removal of that line is safer. Thanks, Overall good. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:IDKANS|IDKANS]] ([[User talk:IDKANS#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/IDKANS|contribs]]) 19:09, 7 November 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


Not sure what is that cite error referring. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:IDKANS|IDKANS]] ([[User talk:IDKANS#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/IDKANS|contribs]]) 19:27, 7 November 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
You were helping me get the Benjamin Tod page. No rush of course, but you hadn't updated it after the last re-submission. If you're busy, I understand.... if you're wanting anything from me on it, please let me know so I can address the issues. Thanks! <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Vjarizpe|Vjarizpe]] ([[User talk:Vjarizpe#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Vjarizpe|contribs]]) 18:56, 16 September 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


: {{u|Vjarizpe}}, if it's in the AFC queue again, any of the other AFC reviewers can check it. I would continue to look for external news articles that significantly cover Tod. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 16:56, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
Great, anything needs to be done on this. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:IDKANS|IDKANS]] ([[User talk:IDKANS#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/IDKANS|contribs]]) 20:21, 7 November 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


: {{u|Vjarizpe}}, the article is in mainspace now. Congrats, and happy editing. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 16:02, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
Seems, this draft is pending for year, not sure, the expectations of reviewers. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:IDKANS|IDKANS]] ([[User talk:IDKANS#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/IDKANS|contribs]]) 06:11, 11 November 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
: {{u|Vjarizpe}}, please disclose your conflict of interest [[WP:COI]] for Tod's page. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 15:07, 26 September 2019 (UTC)


Hey, thanks for publishing the page. I did see that there was the conflict of interest post. Other than being a fan of the artist, and thinking they deserve a page, I in no way was paid or received anything from the artist, or anyone else associated with them. Is it a conflict of interest to like an artist and create a page? I’m not sure what kind of proof of non payment you need, but I’ll disclose anything you’d like. I am proud of this accomplishment. [[User:Vjarizpe|vjarizpe]] ([[User talk:Vjarizpe|talk]]) 23:00, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
I have done some minor edits and updated some references, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/tables is showing prediction vandalism, any idea. Thanks. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:IDKANS|IDKANS]] ([[User talk:IDKANS#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/IDKANS|contribs]]) 06:02, 15 November 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


I do moderate fan page on FB started by another fan, but that is not connected with the band, it’s independent. My business is photographing apartment buildings and high rises. I can provide you or anyone at Wikipedia with a cpa certified letter stating I have received no payments from the band. Us fans just want to help spread the word of great artists that don’t have “Label” support. I wanted to work on a couple others soon, but I do want to know it’s ok. I’m not trying to break rules here. Please advise. [[User:Vjarizpe|vjarizpe]] ([[User talk:Vjarizpe|talk]]) 23:27, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
: {{u| IDKANS}}, how is it pending for a year when the last feedback was last month? [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 00:26, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
: {{u| IDKANS}}, the more it can be reduced to its basic explanation of the project and its impact / applications, without too much technical detail, the more that would help. It also helps if there are [[WP:GNG]] sources on the project. Ones that are secondary external news sources that are independent of the subject. Can you list those up front in the comments section? [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 00:28, 19 November 2019 (UTC)


: {{u| Vjarizpe}}, thanks for clarifying that you weren't paid. Are you connected to the subject in the non-paid way (acquaintances/friends of the band and/or its members/crew) or indirect payment (tickets, merch)? If they're influencing you in any of the content or disclosing other information, then it may still be a COI. Same story if you are connected in any way to Gems on VHS, label, etc. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 00:03, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
Can you please specify the section that needs to be reduced (do you think we need to reduce or delete the Approach Section or reduce and also the technical details in application sections??). Probably, I can try to reduce as per your guidelines/thoughts.


: {{u| Vjarizpe}}, the issue is that you've created content toward his official site, even if it's to set up their Internet presence. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 00:46, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
Secondary external news sources that are independent of the subject: (added in comment sections). My concern this draft was initiated in January, 2019,and some of the coverage may start disappearing in websites/news.


I’ve been to 5 shows this year and met them selling merch after the show, but they aren’t friends or acquaintances, and I have not received any tickets or merch. I don’t have a direct line to the band. GEMS on VHS has a Patreon page, and I do donate to them to support them. They’ve responded to posts on Instagram and FB before, but that’s the extent of my relationship. I’ve been trying to clean up the page since I pulled all those “band” sources and have been going back through the copy to make sure there wasn’t any content that was left from them. I also found a new article published yesterday and have been going through it to see if there’s anything I can add back in. Also, all the Gems sources were pulled prior to your approval of the page since you labeled them not credible. I do appreciate your due diligence, and do want to make sure I’m following the rules..... as a side note, should I not create a page for GEMS since I donate to them? I was thinking about it. [[User:Vjarizpe|vjarizpe]] ([[User talk:Vjarizpe|talk]]) 00:50, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
: {{u| IDKANS}}, thanks, that looks good. Thanks for pointing out the citations from the other journals and the AAAS article. That helps. It might still be tagged for being overly technical, but I'll let the other editors figure that out. if you are concerned the websites/news sites are going offline, then you have those particular articles archived with Wayback. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 14:49, 19 November 2019 (UTC)


: {{u| Vjarizpe}}, you have an Instagram message that says you worked on developing Tod's official website. As for Gems, that's borderline, depends on whether you're a big enough sponsor; seems like it could be the case given all the shoutouts on their youtube videos / social media. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 03:07, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
Thank you, I would help to clean up and make neutral point of view, if someone gives some clear guidelines, anyway, thanks again. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:IDKANS|IDKANS]] ([[User talk:IDKANS#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/IDKANS|contribs]]) 18:03, 19 November 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


Benjamin Tod used a moving photo I created, from an existing photo, of him on his homepage, and I was/am pretty proud. I was not paid by the band. I donate to Gems at a tier that makes me a contributor. These people aren’t my friends, I'm just a huge fan who wanted to try to do something good for people who don't have a lot of money, and are trying to make it. I’m new to this so I appreciate your help. If my writing is biased, if I cited sources that are not valid, or left any ounce of opinion, please let me know. I’m trying to learn, so thanks for continuing the conversation. I do want to publish more in the future so all this helps. [[User:Vjarizpe|vjarizpe]] ([[User talk:Vjarizpe|talk]]) 03:28, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
: {{u|IDKANS}}, so are you connected to the group in any way? Same university department or used their product in your research? [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 20:03, 19 November 2019 (UTC)


Hey, I get it. please check any info I posted, everything is from qualified sources. Nothing is meant to advertise, or promote. He meets the qualifications for a page. If I shouldn’t add to it anymore or edit, understood. If I shouldn’t create pages for artists I’m a huge fan of, ok. vjarizpe (talk) 14:08, 27 September 2019 (UTC [[User:Vjarizpe|vjarizpe]] ([[User talk:Vjarizpe|talk]]) 14:10, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
Evapotranspiration is common to many subjects (engineering, agriculture, agronomy, biology, hydrology), BAITSSS is different than others. I am interested/aware of these models. Thanks. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:IDKANS|IDKANS]] ([[User talk:IDKANS#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/IDKANS|contribs]]) 20:16, 19 November 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


: {{u| Vjarizpe}}, I think you're gotten the hang of what verbiage would be promotional / biased vs. neutral, and same with the sources. That helped a lot in getting it out of the draft world. As for Gems, think of it like a political party or organization. Donating at some small flash in the pan level or having a bit of stock in the company doesn't really show a COI, but being on staff, even if volunteer, would be, and doing it to improve your standing among the organization or band would be. Also, editors should not be using Wikipedia to promote their subject, but report on them, good and bad (see [[WP:PROUD]], yes, even our favorite people can have major issues and criticism). It's okay to be big fans of the article subjects, just have to keep neutral about it when explaining that to others. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 15:55, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
== Thomas Nail ==


Got it. Thanks for all your guidance. I’ll stay away from doing Gems, that makes sense. [[User:Vjarizpe|vjarizpe]] ([[User talk:Vjarizpe|talk]]) 17:00, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for your feedback on "Draft:Thomas Nail". The article has been rejected twice but no one has told me how to fix the issues. One comment suggests that academics need a "named chair" to be listed, which is clearly no the case for most entries. Another says I need reliable independent sources that are verifiable—but that was what I thought I just added with links to peer reviewed journals, etc. I am super confused. Other entries are way less supported than mine. Can you tell me specifically what I need to do here? Its all so mysterious. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RyanHSanborn (talk • contribs) 02:40, 8 November 2019 (UTC)


==Article [[Sacha Nemcov]]==
:Also: I read the wiki instructions and its pretty clear that the article meets at least one of the academic criteria listed: "The most typical way of satisfying Criterion 1 is to show that the academic has been an author of highly cited academic work – either several extremely highly cited scholarly publications or a substantial number of scholarly publications with significant citation rates. Reviews of the person's work, published in selective academic publications, can be considered together with ordinary citations here. Differences in typical citation and publication rates and in publication conventions between different academic disciplines should be taken into account.
Hello AngusWoof, I just wanted to let you know that a user [[:User:SimonPenil]] is reviewing AFC submissions. It's not that it bothers me but his actions seem suspicious [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/WBR Corporation|see]]. And the user seems to have a less than 10 days old account. please see the article [[Sacha Nemcov]], I thought it needs to go through AFC. <span class="unicode" style="color:black;text-shadow:0.1em 0.1em 0.1em #777777">[[User:AbhiMukh97|<span style="color:Violet;">'''AbhiMukh97'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:AbhiMukh97|<span style="color:green;">(''Speak'')</span>]][[Special:Contributions/AbhiMukh97|<span style="color:brown;">(''Contribs'')</span>]]</sup></span> 04:56, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
:I have linked to google scholar and academia.edu to verify this. Thomas Nail has a book, The Figure of the Migrant, cited 285 times (which is a lot for philosophy books). He also fulfills the other named criteria of "unique" contribution that can be verified by reading the linked book review of Theory of the Border- where the reviewer clearly states the original and unique contribution of a whole new conceptual framework. Check it out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RyanHSanborn (talk • contribs) 03:22, 8 November 2019 (UTC)


: After a user's account has aged for a while or has acquired a number of edits, they can construct articles directly in mainspace. It will then have to be reviewed by New Pages Feed. However, you can tag notability if the article isn't really notable. Or call for a PROD or AFD. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 16:52, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
::Please read this: I am pasting here the explicit criteria on wikipedia for academic notability and precise how Thomas Nail satisfies this: [[WP:NACADEMICS]]: Academics meeting any one of the following conditions, as substantiated through reliable sources, are notable.
::Thanks for the suggestion. I think I should let it be there, and see which direction it goes. The sources are independent, but I think it lacks notability. [[User:AbhiMukh97(alt)|AbhiMukh97(alt)]] ([[User talk:AbhiMukh97(alt)|talk]]) 15:07, 18 September 2019 (UTC)


== Diagonal split color box ==
::1. The person's research has had a significant impact in their scholarly discipline, broadly construed, as demonstrated by independent reliable sources.


I made the template to use it in "traffic sign recognition":
::"The most typical way of satisfying Criterion 1 is to show that the academic has been an author of highly cited academic work – either several extremely highly cited scholarly publications or a substantial number of scholarly publications with significant citation rates. Reviews of the person's work, published in selective academic publications, can be considered together with ordinary citations here. Differences in typical citation and publication rates and in publication conventions between different academic disciplines should be taken into account. To count towards satisfying Criterion 1, citations need to occur in peer-reviewed scholarly publications such as journals or academic books. Publication and citation rates in humanities are generally lower than in sciences. Also, in sciences, most new original research is published in journals and conference proceedings whereas in humanities book publications tend to play a larger role (and are harder to count without access to offline libraries). The meaning of "substantial number of publications" and "high citation rates" is to be interpreted in line with the interpretations used by major research institutions in determining the qualifications for the awarding of tenure."


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::Here is how criteria number 1 is verified: a) follow the link "highly cited" to google scholar and see that there are several "highly cited" books and many well cited peer- reviewed articles. b) follow the academia.edu link at the bottom to see that Thomas Nail has over 4,000 followers with a quarter of a million downloads. c) when determining "highly cited" consider 1. that philosophy has much lower citation rates than the sciences, 2. that books are much more important that articles, and 3. that Thomas Nail is a tenured faculty, meaning that he has published enough to be considered to have made an impact in his field. d) view his CV on academia.edu to see the 10 books he has written and over 30 peer reviewed articles and major conferences and full range of interviews.


: Can you show me the discussion of where that's been recognized as a good idea by [[Wikipedia:Accessibility]] project? [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 20:31, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
::Let me know what you think


:: The colors in the traffic sign recognition page are a visual aid. The information is encoded by the letter. [[Special:Contributions/217.162.112.133|217.162.112.133]] ([[User talk:217.162.112.133|talk]]) 21:23, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
:::Please see [[WP:NACADEMIC]] and indicate how this professor meets any of the criteria there. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 03:14, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
:: This is just the combination of "Template:Diagonal split header" and "Template:Color box" [[Special:Contributions/217.162.112.133|217.162.112.133]] ([[User talk:217.162.112.133|talk]]) 21:32, 17 September 2019 (UTC)


I don't know the protocol for replying to your question at [[Draft:Template:Diagonal split color box]], but it seems to be related to [[User talk:Cmglee/archive2018#Template:Diagonal split header]]. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] &#x1f339; ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 23:01, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
::::In all fairness, the author did cite from WP:NACADEMICS, and did show how the professor met criteria 1. [[User:Utopes|Utopes]] ([[User talk:Utopes|talk]]) 02:27, 18 November 2019 (UTC)


{{u|Redrose64}}, you can comment at [[Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Accessibility#Diagonal_split_color_box]]. I've redirected discussion to that location. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 17:49, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
== Article Improved 'Yusuf Magaji Bichi' ==


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Hello AngusWOOF,
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[[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 00:19, 19 September 2019 (UTC)</div><!--Template:Afc talk-->
: Thank you.
: BTW, you broke the documentation. [[Special:Contributions/217.162.112.133|217.162.112.133]] ([[User talk:217.162.112.133|talk]]) 00:33, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
:: {{u|217.162.112.133}}, that's okay, you can fix it. ;) [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 00:42, 19 September 2019 (UTC)


== deleting this page ==
Thanks for your contributions! I have improved my article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Yusuf_Magaji_Bichi based on your corrections, can you please recheck it for me again? This article seems the same with the biography of the previous DGs [[State Security Service (Nigeria)]]. [[User:Ibnadambici|Ibnadambici]] ([[User talk:Ibnadambici|talk]]) 10:47, 8 November 2019 (UTC)


hello angus, can u please help me delete this page "richard rudd"? I cannot find a feature to do it and I am not qualified to do it.
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: Sure, I can request deletion and use this message as the reason. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 19:37, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
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Is the referenced video of her performing on American Idol Season 13 not credible evidence of her being on the show?


== Peer Community In Draft ==
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Hello Angus, thanks for reviewing my [[Draft:Peer_Community_in]]. I added further and more authoritative references (links to official documents of the [[CNRS]] recognizing the organization, articles on the official page of the University of Oxford, etc.) [[User:Natematic|Natematic]] ([[User talk:Natematic|talk]]) 09:32, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
: {{u| Satellitemusic}}, she might have been on the show in one of the early rounds, but didn't made top 16, and certainly isn't a finalist per [[WP:MUSICBIO]]. Are there other articles to show notability towards [[WP:MUSICBIO]]? [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 19:32, 8 November 2019 (UTC)


== Raoul Bhatt wiki ==
== Re: Mick Lauer ==


You said that they only have one Yu Gi Oh role, did you read all of the credits? He is currently on a Nickelodeon series for lego and is in at least 10 MAJOR video games... I'm just confused how you distilled all those credits down to one role, please advise.
Is it possible I can get your help to rewrite the Raoul Bhatt Wikipedia article as I don’t know how? [[User:Tonystargazer|Tonystargazer]] ([[User talk:Tonystargazer|talk]]) 16:16, 10 November 2019 (UTC)


Also, he meets all of the following -
: {{u| Tonystargazer}}, I suggest you try rewriting it without using any primary sources. No websites, social media, or press releases. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 16:20, 10 November 2019 (UTC)


Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, '''television shows''', stage performances, or '''other productions'''.
Ok, I fixed and removed all the social media links, and reworded it so it doesn’t read so much like a resume. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Tonystargazer|Tonystargazer]] ([[User talk:Tonystargazer#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tonystargazer|contribs]]) 08:22, 13 November 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
'''Has a large fan base or a significant "cult" following.'''
'''Has made unique, prolific or innovative contributions to a field of entertainment.'''


Even if there weren't video games (entertainment) and tv shows, youtube is also considered 'entertainment' now.
== Draft: ISA 315: Identifying and assessing the risks of material misstatement through understanding the entity and its environment ==


[https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1004585/ IMDB page] (which is linked on the page, and more annotations are being added)
Hello Angus,
[[User:Ellyrox|Ellyrox]] ([[User talk:Ellyrox|talk]]) 16:36, 20 September 2019 (UTC)


: {{u| Ellyrox}}, those aren't significant roles. He's not in the main cast, only guest roles. Doing Additional Voices and minor roles that don't even show up on Behind The Voice Actors database is not helping show notability. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 17:22, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for the feedback on my article, I'll work on improving the references, citations and context of the article before submitting it for the next review.


[https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10332322/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_2 This is a main cast role].
--[[User:Anthony Mutua|Anthony Mutua]] ([[User talk:Anthony Mutua|talk]]) 06:30, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
[https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7510448/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_11 This is a starring role].
[https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2363624/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_30 This is a major character], he's in 146 episodes.
He has a [https://sleepycabin.fandom.com/wiki/SleepyCabin_Wiki podcast] that has a 'cult' following, so much so that many fans have tattoos referencing it.


"'''Has a large fan base or a significant "cult" following.'''"
== [[Toriko]] split? ==


contemporaries of his have pages, most notably [[Jon Jafarihttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JonTron|Jon Jafari]] and [[Arin_Hanson|Arin Hanson]].
I think we might need a consensus regarding split of the [[Toriko]] manga and anime series into different aspects (i.e. a manga page, an anime page and an episode list). As it stands now, the [[List of Toriko episodes]] is essentially an anime series article; the production was originally added without a proper consensus and most of it will need to be moved to a separate article (in this case, [[Toriko (TV series)]]). I'll see what can be done. I've also contacted {{admin|Nihonjoe}} and {{admin|Sergecross73}} for their thoughts on the matter. Thoughts? [[User:Sjones23|Lord Sjones23]] ([[User talk:Sjones23|talk]] - [[User:Sjones23/Wikipedia contributions|contributions]]) 08:03, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
If I were to change the heading of the article to RicePirate would that make a difference?


There's 74 entries on imdb and that's not including 58 podcast episodes, or unlisted projects.
: {{u| Sjones23}}, the original action from last month (October) was that the List of Toriko episodes was boldly renamed to Toriko (TV series), which I stopped and the result was the Request Move. That resulted in a month-long debate over whether the articles should follow WP:ANIME or WP:TV standards. During this period, the LoE article was reformatted to have the (TV series) sections with Production, Casting, Reception, Broadcast and other sections, but was reverted a few times in case the LoE was going to remain a separate article. The result by the admin was no consensus but that all parties are willing to try a standalone (TV series) article. So without having to reopen the entire box, I suggest that TV series be developed proper and to leave LoE alone. Maybe this can be attempted in a draft? [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 16:16, 11 November 2019 (UTC)


I'm just super confused here. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Ellyrox|Ellyrox]] ([[User talk:Ellyrox#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ellyrox|contribs]]) 17:37, 20 September 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:: {{re|AngusWOOF}} I see; I was quite busy with other things, so I missed the discussion. Given your thoughts on the matter, do you think we should consider restoring the article to the way it was before the situation happened as per [[WP:STATUSQUO]]? [[User:Sjones23|Lord Sjones23]] ([[User talk:Sjones23|talk]] - [[User:Sjones23/Wikipedia contributions|contributions]]) 17:36, 11 November 2019 (UTC)


::: {{u| Sjones23}}, I did fix up the LoE table structure and home media so that stuff should stay. But I think a draft would be a good idea as per [[Draft:School Rumble (TV series)]] [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 17:42, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
: {{u| Ellyrox}}, IMDb is not a reliable source. Neither is fandom. If his podcasts and youtubing are notable you need to find external news articles to support that. The only one notable so far is the Yu-Gi-Oh Zexal one, and it is not clear he voiced Roku for the majority of all those episodes. I see another name Darren Dunstain there. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 19:36, 20 September 2019 (UTC)


I feel like you're ignoring a ton of other items I've pointed out here. Does [https://www.awn.com/news/nickelodeon-debut-new-lego-city-adventures-june-22nd this article] suffice as as a reliable source (not for the whole of the entry, just the LEGO item, it also confirms yu gi oh) <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Ellyrox|Ellyrox]] ([[User talk:Ellyrox#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ellyrox|contribs]]) 19:59, 20 September 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:::: {{re|AngusWOOF}} My original draft was located at [[User:Sjones23/List of Toriko episodes]] (check the history page for it; it's a redirect now), but it was way back in 2011 when I spun it off from the main series article. Do you think we should restore the DVD cover and use the [[One Piece (season 5)]] (An FL) and the Naruto episode FLs as models to make it a potential FL? [[User:Sjones23|Lord Sjones23]] ([[User talk:Sjones23|talk]] - [[User:Sjones23/Wikipedia contributions|contributions]]) 17:44, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
: {{u| Ellyrox}}, that's a cast announcement and does not show significant coverage [[WP:SIGCOV]] [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 20:01, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
: {{u| Ellyrox}}, if you're going to bring up [[Arin Hanson]] look at the references that support his article. Stuff like Geek.com, Kotaku, Destructoid, VGFacts, Nerdist, Australian Broadcasting Corporation, SXSW. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 20:04, 20 September 2019 (UTC)


So is it my understanding that a press release is insufficient? What is an appropriate number of sources? It's also my understanding that yes, IMDB is not considered a reliable source for biographical information, it is deemed reliable for cast listings of released content (as noted in the VERY long wiki discussion about weather imdb is sufficient.)
::::: {{u| Sjones23}}, you can check with the others on the talk page for LoE. If there's enough material to create (TV series) then it would be put in the draft, and the LoE can then stay more like the LoE. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 17:52, 11 November 2019 (UTC)


I was using Arin as a reference as they are in the same field, not the same strata fame wise. Per the youtube about page for Ricepirate (Mick), https://www.youtube.com/user/ricepiratenewgrounds/about he has
:::::: Oh, and as a heads up, the [[WP:VPM]] discussion was closed with the result being that the project is "Interconnected, not subordinate". [[User:Sjones23|Lord Sjones23]] ([[User talk:Sjones23|talk]] - [[User:Sjones23/Wikipedia contributions|contributions]]) 18:04, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
485K subscribers, and his channel has 62,909,492 views.


Is linking to content itself allowable, or just articles about the content? What is the threshold here? <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Ellyrox|Ellyrox]] ([[User talk:Ellyrox#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ellyrox|contribs]]) 21:27, 20 September 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
::::::: {{u|Sjones23}}, regarding the DVD covers, you and the others are good at ensuring those aren't having issues with NFCC or Commons, so I'll support whatever you want to place for those. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 18:07, 11 November 2019 (UTC)


: {{u| Ellyrox}}, you need secondary sources independent of the subject. Press release is primary. Interviews are primary. Direct YouTube videos are primary. There is not a threshold of subscribers / views that make a Youtuber notable. They need references to secondary news sources independent of the subject. See [[WP:42]] [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 21:34, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
:::::::: Gotcha. Like I said, I think we should restore the DVD cover for the article once the dispute has been worked out. I think everyone involved should review [[WP:BATTLEGROUND]] and [[WP:OWN]], as noted in [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)&diff=925666055&oldid=925633522 Anomie's closing statement regarding WP:ANIME]. [[User:Sjones23|Lord Sjones23]] ([[User talk:Sjones23|talk]] - [[User:Sjones23/Wikipedia contributions|contributions]]) 18:18, 11 November 2019 (UTC)


==Dave "Fat Man" Williams==
{{od}} I'm creating a new draft at [[User:Sjones23/Toriko (TV series)]] and have restored the LoE to the [[WP:STATUSQUO]] version for now. [[User:Sjones23|Lord Sjones23]] ([[User talk:Sjones23|talk]] - [[User:Sjones23/Wikipedia contributions|contributions]]) 20:34, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
My article Dave "Fat Man" Williams was rejected for several reasons. I am new to Wikipedia editing and value criticism and suggestions. The article was rejected, in part, for not showing references that qualify the subject for an article. I understand my need of better references. The subject of the rejected article, however, is chronicled in a German language Wikipedia page. I mention this only to point out the subject has previously qualified for an article. Also, as rejecting editor you asked that I not use discogs.com as a discographical reference. My reading of the rules for musician references suggests I could use allmusic.com as an alternative. Is this right?


Thank you for your help. yours, rudypoo
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Since the previous image was deleted [[Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2019 October 29#File:Toriko DVD 1.jpg|as per this discussion]], do you think we should restore it if it's absolutely necessary or change it to a promotional poster per [[WP:NFCC#8]]? I felt that it wasn't a decoration for the episode list like in some featured lists such as [[One Piece (season 5)]]. [[User:Sjones23|Lord Sjones23]] ([[User talk:Sjones23|talk]] - [[User:Sjones23/Wikipedia contributions|contributions]]) 20:26, 17 November 2019 (UTC)


[[User:Rudypoo|Rudypoo]] ([[User talk:Rudypoo|talk]]) 22:16, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
== Request on 13:57:07, 11 November 2019 for assistance on [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation|AfC]] submission by Vladjanicek66 ==
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: {{u|Rudypoo}}, yes, see [[WP:RSP]]. Discogs is no good, Allmusic is conditional. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 22:39, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
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== your assistance please... ==
Please can you explain the process to me as I have never created a Wikipedia page before and the conventions totally lose me.


You [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jessica_Pressler&diff=prev&oldid=857000461 added a primary sources tag] to the article on [[Jessica Pressler]]. Could you please go to [[Talk:Jessica Pressler]] and explain why you placed this tag, or, if you don't think you can do that, or you think it no longer applies, remove it? [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 16:33, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
1. I accept we do not have many citations yet, its early stages. Is there a way to hold this page from deletion until we can provide these?


: {{u|Geo Swan}}, I replied on that talk page. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 21:01, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
2. While I understand you are treating this as a "spinoff band", technically this is incorrect as I never left the original band. As with many acts, one member used the band name without authorisation and traded under this name. This current band comprises most of the original lineup. The only reason we are called "The Nosferatu" and not "Nosferatu" is to protect ourselves from malicious legal nonsense and draw a line under matters.


:* Feel free to weigh in at [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:No_original_research&diff=917236717&oldid=917047061 at] [[Wikipedia_talk:No_original_research#Are interviews considered secondary sources... redux]] [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 22:33, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
3. If I copy and paste this article into a Sandbox, can I later republish if I can add more citations?
:* My reading of that discussion is that no-one thinks interviews are all primary sources. They all seem to agree that it is the context of the interview that let's one determine whether it should be considered a primary or a secondary source.
:* For what it is worth, I don't think the three (so far) respondents there share your fear of using primary sources. My reading of our policies remains that there are many uses of primary sources that remain totally policy compliant. The key thing to remember is that primary sources don't establish notability. [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 15:52, 23 September 2019 (UTC)


:: {{u| Geo Swan}}, I agree with you and the others there that the interviews are situational. Some are quality and balanced secondary with tidbits of primary, but others are Q&A primary and promotional where the interviewee dictates the content. [[Vanity Fair]] has a great interview of [[Lena Waithe]], and I really like [[Tom Bissell]]'s detailed interview with video game voice actress [[Jennifer Hale]], even though there was one bit of information concerning her birth year that was erroneous / contradictory. Anyway, I still stand that I tagged correctly Jessica Pressler's article back in August 2018 when a huge chunk of the references were coming from Pressler's own writing. Changing out the primary interviews with the subjects for the secondary sources that mention Pressler interviewing the subject helps cut down on the primaries. Catching a quality interview of her by some other newspaper saying she worked for the Philly newspaper is better than having a link to her actual article in the Philly newspaper or citing her website. When it's clear the article is not going to be steered by Pressler advocates, then we can let in more Q&A interviews with her. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 16:57, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
[[User:Vladjanicek66|Vladjanicek66]] ([[User talk:Vladjanicek66|talk]]) 13:57, 11 November 2019 (UTC)


== Invitation to discuss fate of [[Hermes Conrad]] ==
: {{u| Vladjanicek66}}, here's my reply:
* 1) You can continue to develop the draft where it is or move it to your sandbox. If nothing's been done on the draft for six months, then it might be deleted, but those can be easily recovered.
* 2) As for the band naming, that's rather confusing and depends on who thinks they are the original band and which is a spinoff. If both are claiming to be the original band, then it should be explained how there are now two separate incarnations of the band. Depending on how much can be written, this can mean a split article or perhaps be merged into the same original article.
* 3) You can copy it over to a sandbox, but it'll still be treated like a draft when you resubmit it.


Hi {{u|AngusWOOF}},
Hope this helps clarify things. The second question you might want to ask around to other editors on how best to handle it, and if there are similar bands that were in this situation, you can copy their model. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 15:40, 11 November 2019 (UTC)


Thanks for reviewing my draft for "[[Draft:List of Planet Express employees|List of Planet Express employees]]" and for the suggestion. The main reason why I formulated it was because the page for [[Hermes Conrad]], who is one of the main characters on ''[[Futurama]]'', keeps getting nominated for deletion. While it has become apparent that Hermes' page does not meet notability requirements (the page for [[Amy Wong]], another main character, might not be notable either), I didn't want it simply to be redirected to the generic [[List of Futurama characters]] page with no detailed description added like the [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hermes Conrad (2nd nomination)|last time Hermes' page was redirected]], hence why I proposed merging the supporting characters of ''Futurama'' (Hermes, [[Amy Wong]], [[Professor Farnsworth]], and [[Zoidberg]]) into one article as seen in that draft, while leaving pages for the three primary characters ([[Philip J. Fry|Fry]], [[Leela (Futurama)|Leela]], [[Bender (Futurama)|Bender]]) intact. I think your suggestion to simply create the detailed description below the main list has some merit though.
: Maybe something like [[The Beach Boys#2000s: Band split]]? [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 17:44, 11 November 2019 (UTC)


If you have time or happen to follow ''Futurama'', I'd like to invite you to put your input for the [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hermes Conrad (3rd nomination)|deletion discussion for Hermes' page]], or the one for [[Talk:Hermes_Conrad#Merger_proposal_with_Amy_Wong,_Zoidberg,_and_Hubert_J._Farnsworth_to_form_Other_primary_characters_on_Futurama|merging Hermes with Amy, Prof. Farnsworth and Zoidberg]].
== [[Draft:Olivia Rodrigo]] ==


Best regards, --[[User:WuTang94|WuTang94]] ([[User talk:WuTang94|talk]]) 02:14, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
Where do you think we are with this one now? She has three bona fide "significant" roles released now, so she certainly technically meets [[WP:NACTOR]]. And the ''High School'' musical series is getting a lot of press... But when I look for profiles of ''just'' Rodrigo, I'm still not finding much. So... thoughts? (TIA!) --[[User:IJBall|IJBall]] <small>([[Special:Contributions/IJBall|contribs]] • [[User talk:IJBall|talk]])</small> 22:38, 11 November 2019 (UTC)


: {{u| IJBall }}, I see [https://whatsondisneyplus.com/production-begins-on-the-disney-original-series-high-school-musical-the-musical-the-series/] which is echoed on TV Insider. That's got her birthplace but a paragraph-sized profile of what she's been in. I'm hoping there are some more detailed articles though. Here's a profile from See Jane / Geena Davis Institute [https://seejane.org/bio/olivia-rodrigo/] This article on AV Club is headlined how she and othe cast members are already stars [https://tv.avclub.com/the-cast-of-disney-s-high-school-musical-reboot-are-alr-1839459992] Lots of "meet the cast" articles from mainstream media though. Here's one from Columbus Dispatch about her career with Madison Hu on Bizaardvark [https://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/life_and_entertainment/2016/07/06/1-young-stars-real-friendship-drives-disneys-new-bizaardvark.html] (same article at Fresno Bee [https://www.fresnobee.com/entertainment/tv/article84843547.html] ) Here's one for Paved New World in J-14 magazine [https://www.j-14.com/posts/olivia-rodrigo-chad-tepper-paved-new-world-140592/] and Variety [https://variety.com/2017/film/news/film-news-olivia-rodrigo-paved-new-world-1202540695/] She in a ton of Just Jared Jr. blog articles, although that's not that good a source. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 22:52, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
: {{u| WuTang94}}, thanks. It sounds like they're trying to reorganize the lists so that there should be some detail for the other major recurring or main characters. If Hermes Conrad's page can be beefed up with individual character notability: more reception concerning the specific character, more perspectives of the character outside its main media, then they won't have to merge it. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 14:07, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
:: I think one good profile piece or interview (from a decent-quality source) would get this one over the hump. But I've yet to find one that I really think does it ([https://highschool.latimes.com/california-school-of-the-arts/high-school-musical-the-musical-the-series-winks-to-the-past-with-a-modern-take/ this ''LA Times'' piece] makes some mention of her, but still not in enough detail)... However, it's possible with the Disney+ debut that somebody will write something substantive up on her over the next few weeks. I'll try to remember to keep an eye out... Thanks! --[[User:IJBall|IJBall]] <small>([[Special:Contributions/IJBall|contribs]] • [[User talk:IJBall|talk]])</small> 04:13, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
::: Here's a press release that mentions her middle school. [https://iesportsnews.com/murrietas-olivia-rodrigo-an-american-girl-success-story/] and this interview talks about that she's Filipino [https://caamedia.org/blog/2018/01/19/olivia-rodrigo-of-disneys-bizaardvark-chats-about-acting-singing-her-filipino-family-and-skateboarding/] [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 08:18, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
::: Sweety High isn't the most RSP of sources but still worth an interview [https://www.sweetyhigh.com/read/devore-ledridge-bizaardvark-facts-092717] Video interview with ET Canada [https://etcanada.com/video/602e5a6a-c605-11e9-b2ad-0a0e16a7fa67/joshua-bassett-olivia-rodrigo-talk-like-changing-roles/] Popsugar cast interview [https://www.popsugar.com/entertainment/high-school-musical-musical-series-cast-interview-46874898] It looks like co-star [[Madison Hu]] has her own page. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 08:29, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
::: {{u|IJBall}}, I don't know if that interview article will come out; it might be too much to expect something like Lena Waithe's Vanity Fair cover article [https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2018/03/lena-waithe-cover-story] for interview, but do you think there's enough based on the news media coverage on the High School Musical web series? [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 21:19, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
:::: Even for someone at career level of Rodrigo, and "in depth" profile is not out of the question, IMO. For example, look at some of the non-inline sources at [[Draft:Cree Cicchino]] (another draft article I need to go over again at some point, and see if it's ready!) – Cicchino actually has 2 or 3 in-depth profiles (from 1 or 2 decent media sources), so it's not unreasonable to wait for Rodrigo to get similar coverage... As to your question, without a more in-depth profile, I'd say it's a "not yet", as the HSM coverage is mostly about the show, with Rodrigo only getting more peripheral focus in a lot of those articles. However, as soon as Rodrigo gets a decently in-depth profile or interview in a decent-ish quality [[WP:RS]], then I'd say it's ready for mainspace. --[[User:IJBall|IJBall]] <small>([[Special:Contributions/IJBall|contribs]] • [[User talk:IJBall|talk]])</small> 21:37, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
{{od|4}} Hey, please be careful with Starklinson and their edits (FTR, I'm not the only one who has problems with this editor) – IMO, this is an editor that is more interested in getting articles into Mainspace than they are with writing good quality articles that are well-sourced. The issues that you and I have discussed with this article remain, and Starklinson's changes really do nothing to address them – it's still missing a high-quality profile article or interview. --[[User:IJBall|IJBall]] <small>([[Special:Contributions/IJBall|contribs]] • [[User talk:IJBall|talk]])</small> 02:52, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
: {{u|IJBall}}, okay will hold off on the CSD part for now. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 03:08, 18 November 2019 (UTC)


== [[Tfue]] ==
== DRAFT: TMRW ==


I've worked with the company to update this page [[Draft:TMRW]] per your edits. Would you mind taking a look and letting us know if we've sufficiently addressed the issues? Thank you.
I've nominated into AFD this person, this is believed to be non notable due to huges unreliable sources like forbes and etc there, pls create Afd on that page, thank you. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/113.150.100.49|113.150.100.49]] ([[User talk:113.150.100.49#top|talk]]) 06:19, 12 November 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
--[[User:LM TMRW|LM TMRW]] ([[User talk:LM TMRW|talk]]) 19:25, 24 September 2019 (UTC)


== Robin Atkin Downes ==
: {{u|113.150.100.49}}, I suggested a redirect to the group he was associated with. I don't know if there's enough coverage of him independent of that after he left the group. If there is, then a new article can spin off from that. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 21:21, 15 November 2019 (UTC)


Hello! I had notice that you edited [[Laura Bailey (voice actress)|Laura Bailey]]'s Wikipedia page, and thought if I can ask if you want to use your skills to fix up and give references to [[Robin Atkin Downes]]'s page. There's a hell of a lot of credits in it that probably shouldn't be there. [[User:Lacon432|Lacon432]] ([[User talk:Lacon432|talk]]) 05:06, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
== least dangerous assumption (draft) ==


: {{u| Lacon432}}, I would move any unsourced credits off to embedded notes for now, check over and remove uncheckmarked BTVA credits, and get rid of the rowspan. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 05:24, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
Hi AngusWOOF,


== Public Warning - Location Based SMS ==
Thanks for your (very rapid) reviews of the page I'm proposing. The turnaround is appreciated.


You have reviewed this page which I created today and have given feedback.
This is an important page to get on Wikipedia. The phrase passes the criteria notability, verifiability, and reliability of sources. It's an important concept and it should be documented. I am at a bit of a loss to know where to go with it. As far as I can see I have set the context clearly (it's a pedagogic concept, particularly important in educational policy areas such as inclusion, and used in the fields of intellectual disability and communication disorder). I've described the contept in an encyclopic way (neutral, reling on reliable secondary sources), saying what it is and illustrating its meaning with an example. I'm not sure waht else I can do. Sure I could write more (way more) but some entries surely need to be terse and to the point (I don't see what a history of its coining adds to the understanding of what it is). And I've never seen a journal abstract looking like this draft (maybe in terms of length, but not in terms of content) - so I'm rally not sure in what way it looks like a journal abstract. So I'd very much appreciate figuring out how to get this moving in a way that enables a terse, informative entry to find its place in wikipedia.
The article is not connected to SMS for Marketing - that is a very different topic..
I have used references and third parties.. so not sure why this article isn't meeting the rules... <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:EBKJG|EBKJG]] ([[User talk:EBKJG#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/EBKJG|contribs]]) 16:01, 26 September 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


: It might be better to redirect it to [[Location-based service]] [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 16:31, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
I very much appreciate the review process and the shared agenda of ensuring that wikipedia stays what it is intended to be - so none of this is 'moaning'. [[Draft:The_least_dangerous_assumption]


Iorek 12:16, 12 November 2019 (UTC) <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Iorek100|Iorek100]] ([[User talk:Iorek100#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Iorek100|contribs]]) 10:16, 12 November 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->Iorek 12:15, 12 November 2019 (UTC)


== Max Porter ==
: {{u| Iorek100 }}, here's a blog writeup where someone tries to explain LDA. [https://www.somethingextra.org/blog/the-can-revolution1/] Note how it includes the origins of the phrase. "Over 30 years ago, special educator Anne McDonnellan coined this phrase by stating that in the “absence of conclusive data, educational decisions ought to be based on assumptions which, if incorrect, will have the least dangerous effect on the likelihood that students will be able to functional independently as adults.”" Here's another blog writeup [http://www.noodlenook.net/least-dangerous-assumption/] that mentions 1984 as origin. And one from Oilbean [https://ollibean.com/outing-the-prejudice-making-the-least-dangerous-assumption/] So it should explain what LDA is and then how it's been popularized and widely used since then. But find a more magazine article like source or a reliable source website rather than random blogs. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 15:17, 13 November 2019 (UTC)


IN THE TIME IT HAS TAKEN YOU TO REVIEW THIS PAGE, WHICH I SPENT HOURS ON, AND THEN DECLINE IT TWICE AND REFUSE TO LOOK AT IT AGAIN, SOMEONE ELSE HAS CREATED AN INCREDIBLY SIMILAR PAGE WITH FEWER REFERENCES THAT WAS FOUND COMPLETELY ACCEPTABLE. THE DRAFT ARTICLE IS MORE DETAILED THAN A TONNE OF OTHER ARTICLES THAT ARE ACTUALLY ON WIKIPEDIA. SO THANKS VERY MUCH FOR WASTING MY TIME WHEN I WAS TRYING TO DO SOMETHING USEFUL FOR THE COMMUNITY. THIS IS THE LAST TIME I'LL TRY TO CREATE A WIKIPEDIA PAGE, YOU'VE PRETTY MUCH SINGLE-HANDEDLY DESTROYED MY FAITH IN IT. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Alexchristofi|Alexchristofi]] ([[User talk:Alexchristofi#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Alexchristofi|contribs]]) 12:36, 27 September 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
Thanks for your help with this. It's a good process having page creastion so carefully gate-kept. I'll endeavour to ensure the page keeps improving now that it has been created, in line with the aims of Wikipedia.
Iorek 16:36, 22 November 2019 (UTC)


: {{u| Alexchristofi}}, you're referring to feedback from months ago. The article is still in the AFC queue so any other AFC reviewer can take a look at it now. It doesn't have to be me. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 13:47, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
== Please help in solving queries ==


== [[Draft:Cultural impact of Michael Jackson‎]] ==
Regarding Your suggestions to improve article of Tanya Maniktala and Shivam Kakar.


Regarding [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Cultural_impact_of_Michael_Jackson&diff=prev&oldid=918547770 this], see what I stated [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Popcornduff&diff=917110031&oldid=917098846 here] on [[User:Popcornduff|Popcornduff]]'s talk page and what Popcornduff stated.
1. I will work on your requested point to become neutral i.e.I will imagine I dont know them and try writing a concise (precise) stuff what is required from reader's point of view.
2. I have used all web sources only to gather the information. Can you give a example where I have not.
3. Additionally you have mentioned, the tone of writing is self promotion based. My answer to that is : I will modify the draft again. I am a follower of these upcoming actors who are very much popular since last two-three years in India. People have asked queries about them at several platforms and They have that credibility now (not a year before perhaps!) to have a wikibiography page. They have bagged good projects (tanya is going to work for Mira Nair in International - BBC project and Shivam is going to work for a bollywood movie. So as far as India viewers are concerned they are well searched in internet"
Data for Tanya - https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=IN&q=Tanya%20Maniktala
Data for Shivam - https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=IN&q=Shivam%20Kakar


I understand what you mean, but the editor did move it to draft space. So the editor can work on it in draft space. We should take a "wait and see" approach. Also, before it's redirected, it needs to be moved back to main space so that the edit history and talk page history are preserved. Draft space material is eventually deleted unless it's something like [[Talk:Star Wars: The Last Jedi/Archive audience response]], which preserved the talk page. [[User:Flyer22 Reborn|Flyer22 Reborn]] ([[User talk:Flyer22 Reborn|talk]]) 06:23, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
Please suggest me, apart from promotional tone, what else I should rectify? Thanks <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Sagargenetic|Sagargenetic]] ([[User talk:Sagargenetic#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Sagargenetic|contribs]]) 07:14, 13 November 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


: {{u| Flyer22 Reborn}}, up to you, but I've seen it submitted to draft multiple times, which is where it's been in contention. You might want to recreate the redirect and have it tagged with R with possibilities or salted. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 07:03, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
: {{u| Sagargenetic}}, the concern is that the article is full of promotional verbiage such as "She is set to take the British TV industry by storm". Please read stuff like [[WP:NOTADVERTISING]] and [[WP:NPOV]] and try to get rid of the promotional phrases, stuff that makes the actor look good. Replace it with more neutral phrases which explain what the actor has done. It's okay to say whether they starred in or co-starred in a particular show or film.
::When it's recreated, I will ping all of the editors (meaning you included) who commented on whether or not the article should exist, and note that we are now assessing this new incarnation. [[User:Flyer22 Reborn|Flyer22 Reborn]] ([[User talk:Flyer22 Reborn|talk]]) 07:08, 29 September 2019 (UTC)


== [[:Draft:Narendra Singh Dhami]] ==
: Regarding [[Draft:Tanya Maniktala]], please indicate her significant roles in significant productions that would meet [[WP:ENT]]. These web series don't have any notability as it stands, so you need to have other shows. Do not write promotional stuff like name drops "which is being directed by famous Mira Nair" or stating opinions as facts like "is a rising star" We known Nair is famous. Also the web series should be briefly summarized, not that detailed because she didn't produce or create the series, just acted in it. If critics praise her work, then list the critics' names and publications represented and have it quoted. See [[Kari Wahlgren]], a voice actor who has a ton of lead roles in cartoons, and how I briefly describe the role. It should also not be all positive tone, and open to criticism.
=== Request on 08:57:14, 29 September 2019 for assistance on [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation|AfC]] submission by Everestpedia ===
: Same issues with [[Draft:Shivam Kakar]]. The web series isn't notable right now, so you have to find other shows that he stars in to meet [[WP:ENT]]. He should be in one of the lead roles there where external news articles from reliable sources can talk about his work or his career.
{{anchor|08:57:14, 29 September 2019 review of submission by Everestpedia}}
: Hope this helps. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 21:15, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Everestpedia|ts=08:57:14, 29 September 2019|declinedtalk=Draft:Narendra_Singh_Dhami}}


<!-- Hello Wikipedia team please review my draft named Narendra Singh Dhami -->
== Anime biographies ==


Hello again. I have some concerns here. On some articles, {{user|Starbeam2}}, a relatively new user, has been using BTVA as a source when the user reformatted the tables in the [[Debora Rabbai]], [[Michele Knotz]] and [[Veronica Taylor]] articles, despite most of them not including checkmarks. I've already notified them about BTVA [[User talk:Starbeam2#Regarding the BTVA sourcing|here]]. I think we might need to use some resumes for those articles and probably help cleanup the Veronica Taylor and Michele Knotz articles (the former article only uses BTVA as a source for the voice credits, without resumes or other sources like CrystalAcids.com), using the [[Mike Pollock]] article as a model. Can you please let me know what your thoughts are about this and see if the user needs help? Thanks, [[User:Sjones23|Lord Sjones23]] ([[User talk:Sjones23|talk]] - [[User:Sjones23/Wikipedia contributions|contributions]]) 10:07, 13 November 2019 (UTC)


<[[User:Everestpedia|Everestpedia]] ([[User talk:Everestpedia|talk]]) 08:57, 29 September 2019 (UTC)>
: {{u| Sjones23|Lord Sjones23}}, if they aren't checkmarked in BTVA then they can't be referencing BTVA, and I would remove those entries or comment them out for now. Also {{u| Starbeam2 }} should not rowspan the reference column like that per MOS:ACCESS. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 18:07, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
: {{u| Sjones23|Lord Sjones23}}, {{u|Starbeam2}}, I cleaned out Rabbai's article for now. I'll try to do the others later, unless you want a crack at it? [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 21:02, 15 November 2019 (UTC)


: {{u| Everestpedia}}, do not use goodreads as a source. You also need to explain how this person is notable. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 18:26, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
== Location Based SMS ==


=== Please check all the sources[[User:Everestpedia|Everestpedia]] ([[User talk:Everestpedia|talk]]) 03:13, 30 September 2019 (UTC) ===
I have resubmitted this article for review
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Location_Based_SMS


Hello Sir...
Will you be reviewing this again? I have made changes as recommended in your comments.
I have written about Narendra Singh Dhami that he is a Nepalease author then I have also provided 3 or 4 URL (source) of his books, written by Narendra Singh Dhami that you can check.What can be the better and reliable source to prove about author then a Books ? Please Check the Books and you may search on Google 'Narendra Singh Dhami Books' then you will see..I think you are checking only one link.
It isn't enough to provide the URL's of book to prove about author of the book.Sorry but iam tired of Wikipedia service,you can search about Narendra Singh Dhami on Google to know is he notable or not . People are buying his books everywhere in the word...his books are available on Both formats digital and Hardcover.


Now I think I have explained why the article about Narendra Singh Dhami should be accepted.
[[User:EBKJG|EBKJG]] ([[User talk:EBKJG|talk]]) 14:27, 13 November 2019 (UTC)


Please Please Please Check all the sources provided,and search about Narendra Singh Dhami on Google,he is already verified on Google.
: {{u| EBKJG}}, if it's in the AFC queue, then any AFC reviewer can do this. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 17:47, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
[[User:EBKJG|EBKJG]] ([[User talk:EBKJG|talk]]) 15:44, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
so does that mean it will be in review now? I don't know the process well enough, please help me understand, do I need to submit this another way?


Sources (Please Check these )
== Draft:Arnab_Dutta ==


https://books.google.co.in/books/about/Save_The_Planet.html?id=8LqpDwAAQBAJ&source=kp_book_description&redir_esc=y
Sir, i just add a reference. Please help or suggest me how to create it main article . Listvl255 15:27, 14 November 2019 (UTC) <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Bongshomoy|Bongshomoy]] ([[User talk:Bongshomoy#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Bongshomoy|contribs]]) </small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


https://books.google.co.in/books/about/Greater_Nepal.html?id=VOGqDwAAQBAJ&redir_esc=y
: {{u| Bongshomoy}}, please find more news articles that focus on Dutta's career and indicate how Dutta meets [[WP:MUSICBIO]] or [[WP:ENT]]. The artist isn't in one of those regions where they have charting from the usual places like Billboard, so you'll have to dig up those news articles instead [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 20:58, 15 November 2019 (UTC)


https://g.co/kgs/nzCQcJ
== A barnstar for you! ==


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== Draft ==


I hope iam not going to reject again.
Hi, what should i do? for my draft [[User:Enes bi|Enes bi]] ([[User talk:Enes bi|talk]]) 20:28, 15 November 2019 (UTC)


Thank you..
I was add sources [[User:Enes bi|Enes bi]] ([[User talk:Enes bi|talk]]) 20:29, 15 November 2019 (UTC)


: {{u|Enes bi}}, please read [[WP:MUSICBIO]] and explain how this rapper meets the criteria there. Yes, you can add more external news sources to show notability for the person, preferably through news and magazine articles [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 20:57, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
{{u|Everestpedia}}, you're missing the point. The references need to come from external sources, not sources written by the subject itself. See [[WP:NOR]] [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 03:18, 30 September 2019 (UTC)


==Discussion at [[Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Television#Article hierarchy clarification]]==
[[File:Farm-Fresh eye.png|15px|link=|alt=]]&nbsp;You are invited to join the discussion at [[Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Television#Article hierarchy clarification]]. [[User:Sjones23|Lord Sjones23]] ([[User talk:Sjones23|talk]] - [[User:Sjones23/Wikipedia contributions|contributions]]) 23:07, 15 November 2019 (UTC){{Z48}}<!-- [[Template:Please see]] -->


=== Reliable sources from one of the most popular news portals of Nepal[[User:Everestpedia|Everestpedia]] ([[User talk:Everestpedia|talk]]) 04:09, 30 September 2019 (UTC) ===
== Recent draft: declined ==

[[User:AngusWOOF|AngusWOOF]],

I have seen that you declined my submission for [[Draft:Xavier Riddle and the Secret Museum (season 1)]]. The reason you stated was that it was a duplicate of the draft [[Draft:List of Xavier Riddle and the Secret Museum episodes|List of Xavier Riddle and the Secret Museum episodes]] (which you also declined, I understand). This wasn't a duplicate; it was listing a season of the show. I hope you understand. Thank you! --[[User:Purplemountainman|'''<span style="color:#800080">Purplemountainman''']]</span><sup>[[User talk:Purplemountainman|'''<span style="color:#FF00FF">talk''']]</span></sup> 19:32, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

: {{u| Purplemountainman}}, there's only one TV series with one season. It doesn't need to be split off from the main one. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 19:58, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

:{{ping|AngusWOOF}} True. But when there are a lot of seasons (e. g. Season 15), we could probably have a use for that article. --[[User:Purplemountainman|'''<span style="color:#800080">Purplemountainman''']]</span><sup>[[User talk:Purplemountainman|<span style="color:#FF00FF">'''talk''']] [[Special:Contributions/Purplemountainman|'''contribs''']]</span></sup> 20:03, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

: {{u| Purplemountainman}}, that's for later, not when the series has just come out this year. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 20:44, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

:{{ping|AngusWOOF}} Let me explain. I am reading my comment and I realize did not explain it clearly. What I'm saying is when the show's article is not anymore a stub, we could start expanding from there. Hope this makes sense. --[[User:Purplemountainman|'''<span style="color:#800080">Purplemountainman''']]</span><sup>[[User talk:Purplemountainman|<span style="color:#FF00FF">'''talk''']] [[Special:Contributions/Purplemountainman|'''contribs''']]</span></sup> 01:18, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

== Help ==

i dont know what you mean by reviews. i want to add it but i dont understand. you mean game reviews? and how many do you want? who do you want it from? please be more specific. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:OTFTYT|OTFTYT]] ([[User talk:OTFTYT#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/OTFTYT|contribs]]) 02:05, 17 November 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

: {{u| OTFTYT}}, yes, game reviews from video game magazines and websites that are considered reliable under [[WP:VG/RS]] [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 02:18, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
: {{u| AngusWOOF}}, Ok, I'll add that. I'll just add some top reviews from the app store because i can't view reviews from the Nintendo Store. [[User:OTFTYT|OTFTYT]] ([[User talk:OTFTYT|talk]]) 02:33, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

:: {{u| OTFTYT}}, they need to be professional reviews, not aggregates from the App Store / Nintendo Store or random people on there. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 02:42, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

: {{u| AngusWOOF}}, Thats the problem. thats the only place the game exists. I can't use people like IGN because its not rated like that... <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User: OTFTYT| OTFTYT]] ([[User talk: OTFTYT#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ OTFTYT|contribs]]) </small>

:: {{u| OTFTYT}}, online games / apps can still garner reviews from those websites in the [[WP:VG/RS]] [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 02:20, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

== Hello ==

Hi, hope you are doing good.
I edited a page but not sure what happened, subject is rather complex and important I think so. Please review the changes and suggest if it needs further adjustments. [[Draft:Emergent Coding]] [[User:Greg JJ|Greg JJ]] ([[User talk:Greg JJ|talk]]) 07:09, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

== Draft:Registration and Electoral Office ==

I understand regularly the article will be undersourced but it is very common for Hong Kong Government agency Wikipedia page and I follow the ongoing standard, I will be happy to look for more but here are some of those pages comparison. [[Electoral Affairs Commission]], [[Home Affairs Department]],[[Labour and Welfare Bureau]],[[Financial Services and the Treasury Bureau]]. Commonly these category of articles only have 2-3 references. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Felixishim|Felixishim]] ([[User talk:Felixishim#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Felixishim|contribs]]) 08:36, 17 November 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

: {{u| Felixishim}}, can you find some external news articles about it though? It could easily be absorbed into the [[Electoral Affairs Commission]] article which has that REO in bold. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 15:03, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

It has been updated with external sources, I would like to mention as well that this page existed in another language so notability shouldn't be an issue.[[User:Felixishim|Felixishim]] ([[User talk:Felixishim|talk]]) 13:49, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

== Regarding speedy deletion of my page. ==

Hello AngusWOOF

Greetings!

I am writing to request your help following a change in my Wikipedia page.As you know, I have been trying my level best to get my page correct. At present, it is not clear what exactly the problem is.

I would like to request you that please have look at the attached file for my contest for deletion along with the reply from your side for my last edit.

It would be a lot more effective if you can do let me know how can I modify the document, all the necessary details will be shared to you if you need them.

Here is the link for my google document page:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TpvGBV7_J6qRXiZclF9BgtK6DvnX9p3ZCZeDCSEBmKk/edit#heading=h.mzdudx8900tv

Here is the link for Wikipedia page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Manishprivet/sandbox

Thank you in advance for your help and I hope I would be able to update my page without any hindrance.

Yours sincerely,

Aurora Team
ABVIIITM <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Sumitshinde2608|Sumitshinde2608]] ([[User talk:Sumitshinde2608#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Sumitshinde2608|contribs]]) 15:52, 17 November 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

: {{u| Sumitshinde2608}}, the page is now at [[Aurora (festival)]]. You can develop it there, however, do not add the detailed program / agenda / schedule that you had in the sandbox as that is excessively promotional. Also, you have a direct conflict of interest so you and {{u| Manishprivet}} will be limited on what you can add to the article. See [[WP:COI]] [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 02:13, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

== Speedy deletion ==

Hi AngusWoof

Could you give me some advice about the deletion of a draft article? I can't find a reference to which article it was. And I guess it's been deleted now.

This would help me to do better in future.

Was it about Spac Nation? I added citations from two national newspapers, Huffington Post, and one local newspaper; and that seemed to meet Wikipedia's guidelines. But maybe I'm wrong?

I'd value any thoughts you might have.

Thanks [[User:Sadgrove|Sadgrove]] ([[User talk:Sadgrove|talk]]) 18:27, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

: {{u| Sadgrove}}, Huffington Post can only be used if the editor is actually part of the Huffington Post staff, and not a contributor. See [[WP:RSP]] on what sources can be used. Same with Forbes. Do not use Forbes contributors. There was a draft for Spac Nation but it was speedy deleted because it was an attack page. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 02:17, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

== Draft: Injury Reserve ==

Hi AngusWOOF

Thanks for looking at and reviewing my article on Injury Reserve's self titled album so quickly after I submitted it.

You mentioned that I should add more in the critical reception section, which I did. However, you also mentioned that I should put where it charted. As far as I know, the album didn't chart anywhere, as it doesn't show up on Billboard's website (they also track the non-US charts). I believe that the album is still noteworthy and deserves an article though.

If you think it's okay for me to submit the article anyway, then I'll do that. If otherwise, let me know and I'll see if I can fix the problem.

- Krimzonmania7078

: {{u| Krimzonmania7078}}, it needs the reviews and the charting in order to meet [[WP:NALBUM]]. Please review the criteria there and indicate how the article would meet that. If it didn't chart, it needs critical reception from reviewers of reputable music websites. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 02:18, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

:{{u| AngusWOOF}}, I've had a look at the [[WP:NALBUM]] criteria and it would definitely meet 1. (it has been covered by multiple reputable music websites). According to [[WP:NALBUM]] it only needs to meet one of the criteria to be noteworthy.

- Krimzonmania7078

: {{u| Krimzonmania7078}}, you can resubmit that, and indicate that it would meet so. I've cleaned up the sourcing a bit to include the authors. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 19:38, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

: {{u|Krimzonmania7078}}, please ensure that the critics reviewing the album are respectable journalists and not the random "contributors" of the Huffpost/Forbes kind that post their own reviews without editorial oversight. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 00:30, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

:{{u| AngusWOOF}}, I've looked at the journalists in question and they all seem to be from reputable, music-specific publications, so hopefully that is fine.
I wanted to ask about the album cover: I uploaded an image of the album cover to Wikimedia Commons and put it on the draft article, but the image was removed from the draft (as 'non free images are not allowed except on articles'), and now the image itself has been removed from wikimedia commons. Do you know what I can do about this - can I submit the article and add the image later, or is there some other way I can resolve this? Thanks for your help.

- Krimzonmania7078

: {{u|Krimzonmania7078}}, yeah you might have to wait until the article is in the mainspace first. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 16:12, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
: {{u| Krimzonmania7078}}, I'm requesting the redirect be cleared so I can move the article over to mainspace. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 16:20, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

:{{u| AngusWOOF}}, Thanks so much! This is my first article and to see it get onto Wikipedia is really rewarding. People like you are what makes doing this worthwile. I appreciate it!

- Krimzonmania7078

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==Jess Dyce==
Hi AngusWOOF
I'm currently trying to build a new page for Jess Dyce and have submitted two versions. The first was a fumbled attempt at trying to create a page but the second one is the one that I feel is a little better.
The one that I would like published is;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Jess_Dyce_2

I understand that there is some problems with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Jess_Dyce_2 but did not know what to do to improve it.
Once this page is OK I would like to delete the first version (Jess Dyce)

Thanks
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: {{u| UONLTL|Jennie}}, can you edit on [[Draft:Jess Dyce]] version? I deleted the (2) version and redirected the content to that one. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 00:32, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

== TOMMY ROBERTS ==

Mr. Woof
I am new to Wikipedia. If you could help me in any way to better this submission
it would be greatly appreciated.
Thank You, [[User:Monmouth1946|Monmouth1946]] ([[User talk:Monmouth1946|talk]]) 16:40, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

: {{u| Monmouth1946}}, it looks like the verbiage was copied from some other biography, so that needs to be rewritten, otherwise it is a copyright violation. Also if there are better attributions to online media newspapers or books, that would help show whether the person is notable. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 20:06, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

== Request on 14:02:52, 20 November 2019 for assistance on [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation|AfC]] submission by Ezbsg ==
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AngusWOOF, I'm new to Wiki. How is this different than the [[iPhone]] page that promotes one product and company? I'm using other products as a guideline but struggling with these seemingly arbitrary decisions as to what is and isn't a promotion. Creating up a p[age that defines a significant product and how it helps rescue pets doesn't seem like "blatant advertising" to me. I reference [[Microsoft Windows]] and Apple's iPhone as examples. ([[User talk:Ezbsg|<span style=" color: #663300;">talk</span>]]) 13:53, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

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: {{u|Ezbsg}} see [[WP:NPOV]]. It should describe the product or company in a neutral way and not read like verbiage copied from their website. See if you can write the article without using any of its websites, press releases, or social media. Also if you are connected to the company or its people in any way, you need to disclose conflict of interest [[WP:COI]] and it would be better that someone else write about the product. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 14:46, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

{{u|AngusWOOF}} I've read NPOV and understand its stradegy. Once again I reference [[iPhone]] which has links to Apple's web site and describes a single product and talks about nothing but the iPhone. I don't see the difference between that page and what I am trying to create. ([[User talk:Ezbsg]]) 14:56, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

: {{u|Ezbsg}} It should only have a single external link to the company / product at the bottom. The rest of the info can be constructed from secondary source news articles that write about the subject. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 15:04, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

: {{u|AngusWOOF}} Once again I reference Apple's pages which do not follow your guidance. Why is it acceptable to have many links there but not acceptable to have a couple on what I am contributing. There appears to be a huge gap in in consistency as to what is acceptable and what is not. ([[User talk:EzBsg]]) 15:12, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

:: {{u|Ezbsg}}, if you look at the iphone articles like [[iPhone 6S]], most of the references are not coming from Apple. There are a few places where they do, like specs and technical information that can't be garnered by external news sources. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 15:18, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

: {{u|Ezbsg}}, I would suggest trying to dig up information on Rabies Reader using sources that are not connected to the product or company. Get some newspaper or magazine reviews on it. See [[WP:WBA]] on the sections on impartial tone. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 20:01, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

: {{u|AngusWOOF}}, Understood. It seems for new services or products that don't have much maturity that could be a stumbling block for creating an article. ([[User talk:EzBsg#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">talk</span>]]) 20:08, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

== Draft:Michael Cammarata ==

Hi,


Please also check this source about Narendra Singh Dhami...This sources are from News.
I have edited the draft of [[Draft:Michael Cammarata]] by incorporating your suggestions. I have also filtered out reference and have only included the ones which were neutral and detailed. Reference number 8 - NASDAQ, I am not totally sure about, if you want I can remove that. Please let me know if this is OK or if you have any other improvement points. Thanking you. [[Special:Contributions/103.27.231.148|103.27.231.148]] ([[User talk:103.27.231.148|talk]]) 15:14, 20 November 2019 (UTC)


https://thehimalayantimes.com/kathmandu/in-brief-294/
: {{u| AngusWOOF}} - I wanted to check if you have any views on the [[Draft:Michael Cammarata]]. Kindly let me know if you need any other modifications. Thanking you.[[Special:Contributions/103.27.231.247|103.27.231.247]] ([[User talk:103.27.231.247|talk]]) 16:31, 22 November 2019 (UTC)


http://surnayakhabar.com/?p=1554
== About [[Draft:Markov constant (Diophantine approximation)]] ==


Thank you Sir
Thanks for informing me of the problems of my draft article. There are a few things I would like to ask as a maths pro (my username translates to "Lord of Math"):
* Firstly, the draft I wrote was intended for mathematicians, the object in question itself is intrinsically technical and laypeople is unlikely to come across this term from normal math books. So do I still need to provide (at least some) explanation for some terms? Because I wrote this draft based on the style of [[Lagrange number]].
* Besides, [[Markov number]], [[Draft:Markov constant (Diophantine approximation)|Markov constant]] and [[Markov spectrum]] are actually different types of things - a sequence of integers, a function on numbers and a set of real numbers respectively - so I think it is quite easy to distinguish between the three. Also, I already put the term "[[Diophantine approximation]]" on the title, and the other two items are also unrelated to Diophantine approximation. So by your comment "Please indicate how this is different from [[Markov number]]...", how do I proceed?
* Finally, do you know an admin who excels in math? I would like to know one.
Thanks. [[User:數神|數神]] ([[User talk:數神|talk]]) 01:46, 21 November 2019 (UTC)


=== Please check new resources that I have added[[User:Everestpedia|Everestpedia]] ([[User talk:Everestpedia|talk]]) 06:08, 30 September 2019 (UTC) ===
: {{u|數神}}, the reason I asked why they were different was because the article started talking about Markov numbers in bold. I would check the history of the related articles and see who has been editing it the most and is still active. They can help you from there. As far as AFC reviewing, we need to know how the term is notable so we need external news sources, journals, or papers that discuss it and that are not coming from the originating research group. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 02:41, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
:: {{u|AngusWOOF}} Okay, I guess that was a typo; I am also not sure if the sources I cited were sufficient and high-quality. [[User:數神|數神]] ([[User talk:數神|talk]]) 03:22, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
::: See [[WP:IRS]] and [[WP:GNG]] for reliable sources. But like I said, we need sources that discuss the use the term that aren't from the person or group who might have coined the term. Markov chain and Markov process are well known in the community. I just don't know about the constant. There's only one paper so far from E Pelantová that makes use of the term and not much else. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 04:48, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
:::: {{u|AngusWOOF}} Okay, Markov Chain is actually unrelated to Markov constant - they are, in fact, different concepts. As I said before, this new item is related to "Diophantine approximation", and that is not related to Markov chains/processes. Plus, the books that I cited also include the use of the term. Anyway, the amount of available scholarly articles is (slightly) limited, and authors sometimes name this same item differently. Reading through [[WP:N]], I suppose this subject is notable enough. [[User:數神|數神]] ([[User talk:數神|talk]]) 05:18, 21 November 2019 (UTC)


https://thehimalayantimes.com/kathmandu/in-brief-294/
{{u|數神}}, I don't see an entry for the Markov constant in MathWorld, the website that you used for the similar constants. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 15:37, 28 November 2019 (UTC)


http://surnayakhabar.com/?p=1554
== Request on 09:04:00, 21 November 2019 for assistance on [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation|AfC]] submission by SimonC404 ==
{{anchor|09:04:00, 21 November 2019 review of submission by SimonC404}}
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=== Thank you for your pathetic service ===
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Hello - thanks for your input re https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:David_Clutterbuck
Could you eloborate please re _ "The biography section still needs to be referenced, even if it's to offline sources."
What factual / opinion items do you believe need referencing ?


WOW Iam impressed with Wikipedia service and Staff's.
Thanks,
Thank you for such a stupid and pathetic service.
Wikipedia will never be consider as reliable source until Wikipedia has uneducated , stupid and pathetic staff like you.
Stupid Staffs[[User:Everestpedia|Everestpedia]] ([[User talk:Everestpedia|talk]]) 06:38, 30 September 2019 (UTC)


:: See [[User_talk:Girth_Summit#Iam_frustrated....]] [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 14:30, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
[[User:SimonC404|SimonC404]] ([[User talk:SimonC404|talk]]) 09:04, 21 November 2019 (UTC)SimonC404[[User:SimonC404|SimonC404]] ([[User talk:SimonC404|talk]]) 09:04, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
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=== Nice try ===
: {{u| SimonC404}}, there are whole paragraphs in that biography section that aren't referenced to anything. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 16:35, 21 November 2019 (UTC)


EverestPedia fandom wiki is founded by Narendra Singh Dhami but this user page with name EverestPedia is different.Iam not a Narendra Singh Dhami but i have been paid to create the article.
== KKCG declined / Karel Komarek review pending ==
i got thought of creating Wikipedia username as EverestPedia after seeing EverestPedia random wiki created by Narendra Singh dhami..nice try .i wish you have used your time working on your business.[[User:Everestpedia|Everestpedia]] ([[User talk:Everestpedia|talk]]) 18:43, 30 September 2019 (UTC)


: {{u| Everestpedia}}, the [[WP:COI]] still applies [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 19:14, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
Hi AngusWOOF,
thanks for the explanation of KKCG declined, I will prepare more relialible sources for KKCG article
[[Draft:KKCG|https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:KKCG]]


== [[Draft:Dwellers]] ==
I have another question, I sent "[[Draft:Karel_Komarek|Karel Komarek]]" for review at 8th August, but the article is still pending for review (the first information was 6 weeks, now it is 4 month).


Hello! I recently added a reference for the film from Ain't It Cool News that establishes that the filming for the movie is near completion. Let me know if that helps the article, thank you! [[User:Thatguy1987|Thatguy1987]] ([[User talk:Thatguy1987|talk]]) 17:10, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
Is there any possibility to find out in what order is this article?
Because this trend shows that article would be never published:)


: {{u| Thatguy1987}}, okay, let me see what I can do. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 19:25, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
Thank you so much,
[[User:Marthy007|Marthy007]] ([[User talk:Marthy007|talk]]) 12:44, 21 November 2019 (UTC)


: {{u| AngusWOOF}}, Thank you so much! [[User:Thatguy1987|Thatguy1987]] ([[User talk:Thatguy1987|talk]]) 00:37, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
: {{u| Marthy007}}, you can look at [[WP:AFC]]. Articles can be reviewed in any order. Some AFC reviewers like to tackle the really old submissions, and others the really new ones. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 16:37, 21 November 2019 (UTC)


== Doxxing ==
== Regarding the image restoration for the List of Toriko episodes ==


Hi Angus, I genuinely don't want to cause any gried for you about this, because I absolutely agree with your concerns about the editing in this case, but you might want to quickly re-read [[WP:DOX]]. This applies to all editors, even vandals, self-publicists and spam merchants - if the information hasn't been posted on-wiki, we mustn't use it onwiki to link accounts to real identities. An admin has revdelled a couple of your recent edits to my talk page - I wanted to give you a heads up in case there are other steps you need to take. Feel free to remove this message once you've read it, of course. Cheers [[User:Girth Summit|<span style="font-family:Impact;color:#294;">Girth</span><span style="font-family:Impact;color:#42c;">Summit</span>]][[User talk:Girth Summit|<sub style="font-family:script;color:blue;"> (blether)</sub>]] 20:39, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
Hello again. I have a concern about restoring the previous image to the [[List of Toriko episodes]]. Since it was deleted [[Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2019 October 29#File:Toriko DVD 1.jpg|as per this discussion]], should we restore it, take it to [[WP:Deletion review]] or replace it with a promotional poster for now? [[User:Sjones23|Lord Sjones23]] ([[User talk:Sjones23|talk]] - [[User:Sjones23/Wikipedia contributions|contributions]]) 09:06, 22 November 2019 (UTC)


: {{u| Sjones23|Lord Sjones23}}, it's up to you. DVD would be okay for List of episodes or the (TV series) draft. I would go with the manga covers for the Toriko franchise/manga side. It sounds like the WP:TV folks would prefer a logo; that would be fine as well. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 16:39, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
: {{u| Girth Summit}}, my concern is when there is possible undisclosed paid editing because it is advertising. When I look up the username in general or see that the username is related to the person (shares exact same name, shares last name), what is the right tagging to place there? COI? UDP? Autobio? or nothing? for Autobio, if they write the same info on their user page, can it stay tagged as such? [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 21:12, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
::{{u|AngusWOOF}}, I share your concerns, but if you look at [[WP:COI]], I think about the fourth paragraph down, it's pretty explicit - do not post identities. If you follow the link breadcrumbs, you have to report to COIN and to ask a functionary to examine the evidence in private. I think in this particular case, the COI doesn't seem to me to be crucially important at this stage - the draft and sourcing are so poor that they will never be published in their current state, regardless of the author's identity. Cheers [[User:Girth Summit|<span style="font-family:Impact;color:#294;">Girth</span><span style="font-family:Impact;color:#42c;">Summit</span>]][[User talk:Girth Summit|<sub style="font-family:script;color:blue;"> (blether)</sub>]] 21:21, 30 September 2019 (UTC)


: {{u| Girth Summit}}, okay, I will post to COIN if I feel like I need to question if anyone's username is connected to the subject and it is not declared right away. Can I still assume that if the username and the subject are the same, they can be autobio tagged or just punt that to COIN? [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 21:26, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
::{{u|AngusWOOF}}, I just restored the DVD cover to the article. [[User:Sjones23|Lord Sjones23]] ([[User talk:Sjones23|talk]] - [[User:Sjones23/Wikipedia contributions|contributions]]) 14:18, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
::{{u|AngusWOOF}}, my understanding is that if it's posted on wiki you can talk about it - so, if their username or something on their user page that gives rise to suspicions, then you're fine, but if it's something off wiki, even if it's someone's Twitter account, blog and Facebook page all saying 'I edit Wikipedia under the name Girth Summit', then you need to reach for a Checkuser or similar before mentioning anything about it. Hope that makes sense. [[User:Girth Summit|<span style="font-family:Impact;color:#294;">Girth</span><span style="font-family:Impact;color:#42c;">Summit</span>]][[User talk:Girth Summit|<sub style="font-family:script;color:blue;"> (blether)</sub>]] 21:36, 30 September 2019 (UTC)


::: {{u| Girth Summit}}, got it. Thanks. If they add references on Wikipedia itself to such twitter accounts, then I suppose it's fair game but it has to be done on their side to show they are self-disclosing they edit on Wikipedia. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 21:47, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
== My "Draft:New Moon (EP)" ==
::::{{u|AngusWOOF}}, exactly - if they post through their wiki account that such and such a Twitter account is theirs, then of course you can mention because they've made the connection - but not if it's the other way around. (And for good reason - if ever someone claims to be me on a Twitter and Facebook account, they are trolling me, cos I've got neither!) [[User:Girth Summit|<span style="font-family:Impact;color:#294;">Girth</span><span style="font-family:Impact;color:#42c;">Summit</span>]][[User talk:Girth Summit|<sub style="font-family:script;color:blue;"> (blether)</sub>]] 21:51, 30 September 2019 (UTC)


== Creation of Mid-Hudson Valley Federal Credit Union page ==
Please please please do not delete my page. I spend so much times to find the news sources and edit the information.
Please take a look at my new edits to see if they met your requirements yet. Thank you in advance and please support the group. '''[[User:Thinhin of you|Thinh Vü Düc]]''' 18:20, 22 November 2019 (UTC)


Hello! I believe I have made the changes necessary per your review. I'd welcome any additional feedback for [[Draft:Mid-Hudson_Valley_Federal_Credit_Union|this submission]]. Thank you![[User:MarySmith1099|MarySmith1099]] ([[User talk:MarySmith1099|talk]]) 17:59, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
: {{u| Thinhin of you|Thinh Vü Düc}}, declining is not the same as a request for deletion [[WP:MFD]] I don't see it in danger of being deleted. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 19:55, 22 November 2019 (UTC)


== Malcolm waters article declined ==
== [[Draft:Prezzee]] ==


Hi sir or madam, I am Jaden7667, the person who created Malcolm Waters, I don’t know why you decline it. So please can you also explain why my article should be merged with Cathay Pacific.
Hey there. Would you mind taking a look at this draft if it's not too much of a hassle? [[User:Davykamanzi|Davykamanzi]] → <small>[[User talk:Davykamanzi|<b style="color:#0AE;">talk</b>]] • [[Special:Contribs/Davykamanzi|<b style="color:#ED2;">contribs</b>]] • [[User:DavyK17|<b style="color:#264;">alter ego</b>]]</small> 10:19, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
[[Jaden7667]] [[User:Jaden7667|Jaden7667]] ([[User talk:Jaden7667|talk]]) 17:09, 2 October 2019 (UTC)


== Injury Reserve (album) ==


: {{u| Jaden7667}}, see my comment on the draft. He needs independent notability besides the single event. If that has made him a celebrity as with Sully, then expand on that part of his life. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 17:36, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
Just an FYI, I deleted [[Injury Reserve (album)]] per your CSD request. Feel free to move the draft when ready. --[[User:Michael Greiner|Michael]] [[User talk:Michael Greiner|Greiner]] 20:11, 23 November 2019 (UTC)


== AFC Declined ==
: {{u| Michael Greiner|Greiner}}, thanks! :) [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 20:15, 23 November 2019 (UTC)


Hi @AngusWOOF
== Google Code-In 2019 is coming - please mentor some documentation tasks! ==
I am currently confused by your reasoning, If you can please share some more details. I see that this is on Wikipedia as well?
How come the Wikipedia policies are being overlooked for certain articles? for eg :- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time2


Also if you can share what exactly I would need in terms of sources that would be appreciated. My sincere apologies, my intention is not to be rude but I'm confused. I had never submitted an afc before so your help will be much appreciated and if you can also share what does time 2 has that my article didn't have for approval that will be much useful. Thanks & Regards. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/185.46.211.242|185.46.211.242]] ([[User talk:185.46.211.242#top|talk]]) 08:32, 3 October 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
Hello,


: {{u| 185.46.211.242 }}, the main issues are that you've described a very generic business organization that does not show how it is uniquely notable for Wikipedia. You've written only three lines about the organization:
[[:mw:Google Code-in/2019|Google Code-In]], Google-organized contest in which the Wikimedia Foundation participates, starts in a few weeks. This contest is about taking high school students into the world of opensource. I'm sending you this message because you recently edited a documentation page at the English Wikipedia.
* "A decade old digital marketing firm currently active." - which decade? specify year founded and by whom? where is this situated? what do they do?
* "Raises funds for charity as well from time to time with the networking events." - so what? lots of organizations raise funds and have networking events
* "For article I've shared below the links which can be used to authenticate and validate their presence on Wikipedia." - half of the links are coming from the organization itself, press releases or interviews. You need secondary news sources that are independent of the subject, not primary social media sources. They also need to support the statements that you make about the company, not just be piled at the end of the article.
Please read [[WP:MILL]] and [[WP:ORG]] [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 13:20, 3 October 2019 (UTC)


== Questions on recently rejected article ==
I would like to ask you to take part in Google Code-In as a mentor. That would mean to prepare at least one task (it can be documentation related, or something else - the other categories are Code, Design, Quality Assurance and Outreach) for the participants, and help the student to complete it. Please sign up at [[:mw:Google Code-in/2019|the contest page]] and send us your Google account address to google-code-in-admins@lists.wikimedia.org, so we can invite you in!


Hi @AngusWOOF,
From my own experience, Google Code-In can be fun, you can make several new friends, attract new people to your wiki and make them part of your community.


You recently review my article [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Suryakant_Chintaman_Chafekar] and rejected it. I had a few questions related to it so that i could improve the article:
If you have any questions, please let us know at google-code-in-admins@lists.wikimedia.org.
1. "This still reads like a resume": Will it help if i add personal life and education and club all the important events of the subject life under career? I looked into similar articles on defense subjects and this seems to the trend in all these articles
2. Praising the subject: Can you point out a few examples which led you to say so? I can edit these so that they are in line to Wiki policy.
3. Needs more external news sources to show neutrality: I have posted references 1-29 on the subject from reputed Indian news papers. I would also like to point out that these references have been checked by previous approves and they had no issue on neutrality and or need of more external sources. I think 25 odd references should be adequate. Please let me know otherwise.--[[User:Manas.chafekar|Manas.chafekar]] ([[User talk:Manas.chafekar|talk]]) 14:24, 5 October 2019 (UTC)


: {{u| Manas.chafekar}}, 1) why are you adding "clubs" and "education" like a section? Why are there "Important milestones"? That would make it appear even more like a resume. Education can go in the early career section and Personal life section can come afterwards in a separate section. 2. Praising the subject. The sections pertaining to his "accomplishments" are worded in presenting the subject in a glowing / praising light. Stuff like over-explaining the conditions that he landed in and how he successfully landed. That he supervised different groups or logged thousands of hours / years of experience is also a resume stuffer. The section needs to be written to be more of a biography that walks through his career and events that make him notable. 3) There are a number of sources that are coming from his own writings. Those should be minimized as they are primary and self-published sources. For the purposes of notability, you should highlight the best [[WP:THREE]] on the comments / talk page from news sources that show he is notable. Most importantly, I am concerned about the overall conflict of interest as your username implies that you may be connected to the subject. It really needs to be neutralized in tone, and balanced as not everything he has done is praiseworthy. If he's made some high profile mistakes or drew criticism, that has to be included too. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 17:16, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
Thank you!


:: Hi @AngusWOOF,
--[[User:Martin Urbanec]] ([[User talk:Martin Urbanec|talk]]) 21:58, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
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I made the required changes you suggested. For the Coi, I have already me tioned it on my home page. Please check and let me know. I have resubmitted the article again.
== [[Draft:Concert_Seasons_of_Bagheria]] ==
[[User:Manas.chafekar|Manas.chafekar]] ([[User talk:Manas.chafekar|talk]]) 16:55, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for reviewing my [[Draft:Concert_Seasons_of_Bagheria|draft]]. It's my first-ever attempt to create a new page on Wikipedia and that's great you offered how to improve the article. I agree with your comments that notability should be expressed in a bolder way. Moreover, when I came across this topic, I actually thought it's more like a local event stuff. But then I delved into this, searched for mentions in more sources, and it appeared to be quite a big project held for several years and far from a single event, that I thought it deserved to be described here. So now thanks to your comments I paid more attention to what notability is and how it needs to be shown, and I've just added more external sources, including [[Giornale di Sicilia]], for example, which is definitely a notable one as one of big popular media. Let me know if it is good to get approved now, please, because it looks like it does, so I am resubmitting it now. Thank you. [[User:Avbgok|Avbgok]] ([[User talk:Avbgok|talk]]) 10:02, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

Revision as of 16:55, 28 November 2019

Cellemetry Data Services - Please review changes that were suggested

I believe I made the changes as you suggested and added the link to three references. The last review was March 17th. Can you please let me know if there is anything else standing in the way of getting this published?

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by CSYguy (talkcontribs)

CSYguy, the intro reads like it's going to be some essay, and should be rewritten to just present what it is. Is it a service? A company? A technology? Please see MOS:LEAD AngusWOOF (barksniff) 16:55, 11 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
CSYguy, it looks like the article has been approved and updated. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 16:01, 25 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Manjappada Kerala Blasters FC

I have submitted several time for approval. but you declined, can you help us to improve the article. there are other articles example West Block Blues. they are the fan club of Bengaluru FC But they dont have enough content in their article. How they got approval.KBFCmaneesh (talk) 05:56, 13 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

KBFCmaneesh, you need more external news sources independent of the subject to show notability for the organization. See WP:ORGCRIT and WP:GNG. And please do not keep resubmiting after every little tweak until you have strong enough sources. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 15:43, 13 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
As the submitter has been banned, this does not need further discussion, but others not associated with the submitter can continue drafting on this. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 17:11, 17 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Draft rereview

I have taken up responsibility for this draft and have drastically rewritten and filled in many missing citations. [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by UseTheWiki (talkcontribs) 06:55, 15 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

UseTheWiki, so why are you still referencing IMDb and other not so reliable sources? How does this person meets WP:MUSICBIO? AngusWOOF (barksniff) 09:26, 15 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
AngusWOOF
IMDb is allowed as a citation as long as it is not part of the user generated review content. The IMDb editor reviewed content such as cast lists are considered reliable.
The subject of the article is mentioned in more than one, nontrivial, independent, and reliable sources. UseTheWiki (talk) 16:16, 15 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
UseTheWiki, no, IMDb cast listings are user-generated and are NOT reliable. Only the WGA credits are. See WP:CITEIMDB AngusWOOF (barksniff) 16:25, 15 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
UseTheWiki, the sources needs to be checked to see if they are random blogs or actual notable reliable sources. They should also not be promotional and not tied to the subject / interviews AngusWOOF (barksniff) 16:26, 15 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
AngusWOOF Sorry, I misunderstood the IMDb accepted uses. Also now that you pointed that out, I only see two reliable sources, and the subject needs multiple more. Thanks for the feedback! UseTheWiki (talk) 02:37, 16 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Move fast and break things dab

I reverted this as the quote is not mentioned in Zuckerberg's article per MOS:DABMENTION AngusWOOF (barksniff) 19:44, 11 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Will you implement any alternative constructive idea so as not to imply to the user that this sentence originated on the cover of Jonathan Taplin's book?--Reseletti (talk) 20:01, 11 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
You could add something in Zuckerberg's article about it, or mention in Taplin's article that it originated from Zuckerberg's catchphrase. It would still redirect to the book though, but at least a hatnote would not require the dabmention. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 12:48, 16 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
"You could" :-(
I think your revert is destructive.--Reseletti (talk) 11:27, 17 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
It's sad that you need to guard your contributions on Wikipedia from people who just revert edits because of mere formal mistakes rather than correcting themselves. What if people didn't check back on all their contributions to see if anyone tries to force them to learn the intricacies of Wikipedia rules and try again?--Reseletti (talk) 11:44, 17 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Reseletti, I've redirected this to Facebook as a motto, and created Move Fast and Break Things (book) for Jonathan Taplin' s book. If you want to make it a hatnote, you're welcome to, but I think this would suffice. It doesn't need to be a disambiguation, as it is only two items per WP:TWODABS and again, because the motto is not explicitly mentioned in the article. Per MOS:DABMENTION, neither Zuckerberg's article or Facebook's article even mentions this motto, so disambiguation is not needed. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 17:09, 17 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Reseletti, I started a discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Disambiguation_pages#Move_fast_and_break_things_motto AngusWOOF (barksniff) 17:33, 17 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Please review my draft.

Hi AngusWOOF. I submitted an article for Phillip Ahn M.D. and i have now edited the draft with more information and references. I am confused why the original comment "seemss like one credit in a videogame is not enough" because I did prior research before submitting and Daniel Pesina has a Wikipedia page and he also is also only known for Mortal Kombat II. I have linked more references and Ahn's photos are even on WikiMedia Commons already.

I am confused how to resubmit an article for review. My apologies if I am doing it incorrectly.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Titusthecat (talkcontribs) 11:15, 16 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Titusthecat, if you think Pesina is not notable even with the news aticles given, then you can nominate that article for deletion or tag notability on it. WP:OTHERSTUFF Otherwise, I would see if there are any more external news sources to get Ahn's article to be notable. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 12:50, 16 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Titusthecat, by the way, I moved the article to Draft:Phillip Ahn (martial artist) as his notability is as a martial artist / entertainer and not as a doctor, unless he's notable as both, but that would require more news articles. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 16:55, 17 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Benjamin Tod page

Hi,

You were helping me get the Benjamin Tod page. No rush of course, but you hadn't updated it after the last re-submission. If you're busy, I understand.... if you're wanting anything from me on it, please let me know so I can address the issues. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vjarizpe (talkcontribs) 18:56, 16 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Vjarizpe, if it's in the AFC queue again, any of the other AFC reviewers can check it. I would continue to look for external news articles that significantly cover Tod. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 16:56, 17 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Vjarizpe, the article is in mainspace now. Congrats, and happy editing. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 16:02, 25 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Vjarizpe, please disclose your conflict of interest WP:COI for Tod's page. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 15:07, 26 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, thanks for publishing the page. I did see that there was the conflict of interest post. Other than being a fan of the artist, and thinking they deserve a page, I in no way was paid or received anything from the artist, or anyone else associated with them. Is it a conflict of interest to like an artist and create a page? I’m not sure what kind of proof of non payment you need, but I’ll disclose anything you’d like. I am proud of this accomplishment. vjarizpe (talk) 23:00, 26 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I do moderate fan page on FB started by another fan, but that is not connected with the band, it’s independent. My business is photographing apartment buildings and high rises. I can provide you or anyone at Wikipedia with a cpa certified letter stating I have received no payments from the band. Us fans just want to help spread the word of great artists that don’t have “Label” support. I wanted to work on a couple others soon, but I do want to know it’s ok. I’m not trying to break rules here. Please advise. vjarizpe (talk) 23:27, 26 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Vjarizpe, thanks for clarifying that you weren't paid. Are you connected to the subject in the non-paid way (acquaintances/friends of the band and/or its members/crew) or indirect payment (tickets, merch)? If they're influencing you in any of the content or disclosing other information, then it may still be a COI. Same story if you are connected in any way to Gems on VHS, label, etc. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 00:03, 27 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Vjarizpe, the issue is that you've created content toward his official site, even if it's to set up their Internet presence. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 00:46, 27 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I’ve been to 5 shows this year and met them selling merch after the show, but they aren’t friends or acquaintances, and I have not received any tickets or merch. I don’t have a direct line to the band. GEMS on VHS has a Patreon page, and I do donate to them to support them. They’ve responded to posts on Instagram and FB before, but that’s the extent of my relationship. I’ve been trying to clean up the page since I pulled all those “band” sources and have been going back through the copy to make sure there wasn’t any content that was left from them. I also found a new article published yesterday and have been going through it to see if there’s anything I can add back in. Also, all the Gems sources were pulled prior to your approval of the page since you labeled them not credible. I do appreciate your due diligence, and do want to make sure I’m following the rules..... as a side note, should I not create a page for GEMS since I donate to them? I was thinking about it. vjarizpe (talk) 00:50, 27 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Vjarizpe, you have an Instagram message that says you worked on developing Tod's official website. As for Gems, that's borderline, depends on whether you're a big enough sponsor; seems like it could be the case given all the shoutouts on their youtube videos / social media. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 03:07, 27 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Benjamin Tod used a moving photo I created, from an existing photo, of him on his homepage, and I was/am pretty proud. I was not paid by the band. I donate to Gems at a tier that makes me a contributor. These people aren’t my friends, I'm just a huge fan who wanted to try to do something good for people who don't have a lot of money, and are trying to make it. I’m new to this so I appreciate your help. If my writing is biased, if I cited sources that are not valid, or left any ounce of opinion, please let me know. I’m trying to learn, so thanks for continuing the conversation. I do want to publish more in the future so all this helps. vjarizpe (talk) 03:28, 27 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I get it. please check any info I posted, everything is from qualified sources. Nothing is meant to advertise, or promote. He meets the qualifications for a page. If I shouldn’t add to it anymore or edit, understood. If I shouldn’t create pages for artists I’m a huge fan of, ok. vjarizpe (talk) 14:08, 27 September 2019 (UTC vjarizpe (talk) 14:10, 27 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Vjarizpe, I think you're gotten the hang of what verbiage would be promotional / biased vs. neutral, and same with the sources. That helped a lot in getting it out of the draft world. As for Gems, think of it like a political party or organization. Donating at some small flash in the pan level or having a bit of stock in the company doesn't really show a COI, but being on staff, even if volunteer, would be, and doing it to improve your standing among the organization or band would be. Also, editors should not be using Wikipedia to promote their subject, but report on them, good and bad (see WP:PROUD, yes, even our favorite people can have major issues and criticism). It's okay to be big fans of the article subjects, just have to keep neutral about it when explaining that to others. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 15:55, 27 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Got it. Thanks for all your guidance. I’ll stay away from doing Gems, that makes sense. vjarizpe (talk) 17:00, 27 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Article Sacha Nemcov

Hello AngusWoof, I just wanted to let you know that a user User:SimonPenil is reviewing AFC submissions. It's not that it bothers me but his actions seem suspicious see. And the user seems to have a less than 10 days old account. please see the article Sacha Nemcov, I thought it needs to go through AFC. AbhiMukh97(Speak)(Contribs) 04:56, 17 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

After a user's account has aged for a while or has acquired a number of edits, they can construct articles directly in mainspace. It will then have to be reviewed by New Pages Feed. However, you can tag notability if the article isn't really notable. Or call for a PROD or AFD. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 16:52, 17 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the suggestion. I think I should let it be there, and see which direction it goes. The sources are independent, but I think it lacks notability. AbhiMukh97(alt) (talk) 15:07, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Diagonal split color box

I made the template to use it in "traffic sign recognition":

P/D F/D M/D M/C — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.162.112.133 (talk) 19:19, 17 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Can you show me the discussion of where that's been recognized as a good idea by Wikipedia:Accessibility project? AngusWOOF (barksniff) 20:31, 17 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The colors in the traffic sign recognition page are a visual aid. The information is encoded by the letter. 217.162.112.133 (talk) 21:23, 17 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
This is just the combination of "Template:Diagonal split header" and "Template:Color box" 217.162.112.133 (talk) 21:32, 17 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know the protocol for replying to your question at Draft:Template:Diagonal split color box, but it seems to be related to User talk:Cmglee/archive2018#Template:Diagonal split header. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 23:01, 17 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Redrose64, you can comment at Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Accessibility#Diagonal_split_color_box. I've redirected discussion to that location. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 17:49, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Template:Diagonal split color box/doc has been accepted

Template:Diagonal split color box/doc, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.
The article has been assessed as Template-Class, which is recorded on the article's talk page. You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article.

You are more than welcome to continue making quality contributions to Wikipedia. If your account is more than four days old and you have made at least 10 edits you can create articles yourself without posting a request. However, you may continue submitting work to Articles for Creation if you prefer.

Thank you for helping improve Wikipedia!

AngusWOOF (barksniff) 00:19, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you.
BTW, you broke the documentation. 217.162.112.133 (talk) 00:33, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
217.162.112.133, that's okay, you can fix it. ;) AngusWOOF (barksniff) 00:42, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

deleting this page

hello angus, can u please help me delete this page "richard rudd"? I cannot find a feature to do it and I am not qualified to do it. thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thegenekeys (talkcontribs) 06:58, 20 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, I can request deletion and use this message as the reason. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 19:37, 20 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Peer Community In Draft

Hello Angus, thanks for reviewing my Draft:Peer_Community_in. I added further and more authoritative references (links to official documents of the CNRS recognizing the organization, articles on the official page of the University of Oxford, etc.) Natematic (talk) 09:32, 20 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Mick Lauer

You said that they only have one Yu Gi Oh role, did you read all of the credits? He is currently on a Nickelodeon series for lego and is in at least 10 MAJOR video games... I'm just confused how you distilled all those credits down to one role, please advise.

Also, he meets all of the following -

Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions. Has a large fan base or a significant "cult" following. Has made unique, prolific or innovative contributions to a field of entertainment.

Even if there weren't video games (entertainment) and tv shows, youtube is also considered 'entertainment' now.

IMDB page (which is linked on the page, and more annotations are being added) Ellyrox (talk) 16:36, 20 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ellyrox, those aren't significant roles. He's not in the main cast, only guest roles. Doing Additional Voices and minor roles that don't even show up on Behind The Voice Actors database is not helping show notability. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 17:22, 20 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This is a main cast role. This is a starring role. This is a major character, he's in 146 episodes. He has a podcast that has a 'cult' following, so much so that many fans have tattoos referencing it.

"Has a large fan base or a significant "cult" following."

contemporaries of his have pages, most notably Jon Jafari and Arin Hanson. If I were to change the heading of the article to RicePirate would that make a difference?

There's 74 entries on imdb and that's not including 58 podcast episodes, or unlisted projects.

I'm just super confused here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ellyrox (talkcontribs) 17:37, 20 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ellyrox, IMDb is not a reliable source. Neither is fandom. If his podcasts and youtubing are notable you need to find external news articles to support that. The only one notable so far is the Yu-Gi-Oh Zexal one, and it is not clear he voiced Roku for the majority of all those episodes. I see another name Darren Dunstain there. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 19:36, 20 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I feel like you're ignoring a ton of other items I've pointed out here. Does this article suffice as as a reliable source (not for the whole of the entry, just the LEGO item, it also confirms yu gi oh) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ellyrox (talkcontribs) 19:59, 20 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ellyrox, that's a cast announcement and does not show significant coverage WP:SIGCOV AngusWOOF (barksniff) 20:01, 20 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Ellyrox, if you're going to bring up Arin Hanson look at the references that support his article. Stuff like Geek.com, Kotaku, Destructoid, VGFacts, Nerdist, Australian Broadcasting Corporation, SXSW. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 20:04, 20 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

So is it my understanding that a press release is insufficient? What is an appropriate number of sources? It's also my understanding that yes, IMDB is not considered a reliable source for biographical information, it is deemed reliable for cast listings of released content (as noted in the VERY long wiki discussion about weather imdb is sufficient.)

I was using Arin as a reference as they are in the same field, not the same strata fame wise. Per the youtube about page for Ricepirate (Mick), https://www.youtube.com/user/ricepiratenewgrounds/about he has 485K subscribers, and his channel has 62,909,492 views.

Is linking to content itself allowable, or just articles about the content? What is the threshold here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ellyrox (talkcontribs) 21:27, 20 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ellyrox, you need secondary sources independent of the subject. Press release is primary. Interviews are primary. Direct YouTube videos are primary. There is not a threshold of subscribers / views that make a Youtuber notable. They need references to secondary news sources independent of the subject. See WP:42 AngusWOOF (barksniff) 21:34, 20 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Dave "Fat Man" Williams

My article Dave "Fat Man" Williams was rejected for several reasons. I am new to Wikipedia editing and value criticism and suggestions. The article was rejected, in part, for not showing references that qualify the subject for an article. I understand my need of better references. The subject of the rejected article, however, is chronicled in a German language Wikipedia page. I mention this only to point out the subject has previously qualified for an article. Also, as rejecting editor you asked that I not use discogs.com as a discographical reference. My reading of the rules for musician references suggests I could use allmusic.com as an alternative. Is this right?

Thank you for your help. yours, rudypoo

Rudypoo (talk) 22:16, 20 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Rudypoo, yes, see WP:RSP. Discogs is no good, Allmusic is conditional. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 22:39, 20 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Please re-review my draft

Please review my draft ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Gurudev_GD_Vashist_Astrologer ) . I do the needful changes as per your requirement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Helloajnabi (talkcontribs) 06:18, 21 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

your assistance please...

You added a primary sources tag to the article on Jessica Pressler. Could you please go to Talk:Jessica Pressler and explain why you placed this tag, or, if you don't think you can do that, or you think it no longer applies, remove it? Geo Swan (talk) 16:33, 21 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Geo Swan, I replied on that talk page. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 21:01, 21 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Geo Swan, I agree with you and the others there that the interviews are situational. Some are quality and balanced secondary with tidbits of primary, but others are Q&A primary and promotional where the interviewee dictates the content. Vanity Fair has a great interview of Lena Waithe, and I really like Tom Bissell's detailed interview with video game voice actress Jennifer Hale, even though there was one bit of information concerning her birth year that was erroneous / contradictory. Anyway, I still stand that I tagged correctly Jessica Pressler's article back in August 2018 when a huge chunk of the references were coming from Pressler's own writing. Changing out the primary interviews with the subjects for the secondary sources that mention Pressler interviewing the subject helps cut down on the primaries. Catching a quality interview of her by some other newspaper saying she worked for the Philly newspaper is better than having a link to her actual article in the Philly newspaper or citing her website. When it's clear the article is not going to be steered by Pressler advocates, then we can let in more Q&A interviews with her. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 16:57, 23 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Invitation to discuss fate of Hermes Conrad

Hi AngusWOOF,

Thanks for reviewing my draft for "List of Planet Express employees" and for the suggestion. The main reason why I formulated it was because the page for Hermes Conrad, who is one of the main characters on Futurama, keeps getting nominated for deletion. While it has become apparent that Hermes' page does not meet notability requirements (the page for Amy Wong, another main character, might not be notable either), I didn't want it simply to be redirected to the generic List of Futurama characters page with no detailed description added like the last time Hermes' page was redirected, hence why I proposed merging the supporting characters of Futurama (Hermes, Amy Wong, Professor Farnsworth, and Zoidberg) into one article as seen in that draft, while leaving pages for the three primary characters (Fry, Leela, Bender) intact. I think your suggestion to simply create the detailed description below the main list has some merit though.

If you have time or happen to follow Futurama, I'd like to invite you to put your input for the deletion discussion for Hermes' page, or the one for merging Hermes with Amy, Prof. Farnsworth and Zoidberg.

Best regards, --WuTang94 (talk) 02:14, 24 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

WuTang94, thanks. It sounds like they're trying to reorganize the lists so that there should be some detail for the other major recurring or main characters. If Hermes Conrad's page can be beefed up with individual character notability: more reception concerning the specific character, more perspectives of the character outside its main media, then they won't have to merge it. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 14:07, 24 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

DRAFT: TMRW

I've worked with the company to update this page Draft:TMRW per your edits. Would you mind taking a look and letting us know if we've sufficiently addressed the issues? Thank you. --LM TMRW (talk) 19:25, 24 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Robin Atkin Downes

Hello! I had notice that you edited Laura Bailey's Wikipedia page, and thought if I can ask if you want to use your skills to fix up and give references to Robin Atkin Downes's page. There's a hell of a lot of credits in it that probably shouldn't be there. Lacon432 (talk) 05:06, 25 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Lacon432, I would move any unsourced credits off to embedded notes for now, check over and remove uncheckmarked BTVA credits, and get rid of the rowspan. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 05:24, 25 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Public Warning - Location Based SMS

You have reviewed this page which I created today and have given feedback. The article is not connected to SMS for Marketing - that is a very different topic.. I have used references and third parties.. so not sure why this article isn't meeting the rules... — Preceding unsigned comment added by EBKJG (talkcontribs) 16:01, 26 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It might be better to redirect it to Location-based service AngusWOOF (barksniff) 16:31, 26 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Max Porter

IN THE TIME IT HAS TAKEN YOU TO REVIEW THIS PAGE, WHICH I SPENT HOURS ON, AND THEN DECLINE IT TWICE AND REFUSE TO LOOK AT IT AGAIN, SOMEONE ELSE HAS CREATED AN INCREDIBLY SIMILAR PAGE WITH FEWER REFERENCES THAT WAS FOUND COMPLETELY ACCEPTABLE. THE DRAFT ARTICLE IS MORE DETAILED THAN A TONNE OF OTHER ARTICLES THAT ARE ACTUALLY ON WIKIPEDIA. SO THANKS VERY MUCH FOR WASTING MY TIME WHEN I WAS TRYING TO DO SOMETHING USEFUL FOR THE COMMUNITY. THIS IS THE LAST TIME I'LL TRY TO CREATE A WIKIPEDIA PAGE, YOU'VE PRETTY MUCH SINGLE-HANDEDLY DESTROYED MY FAITH IN IT. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexchristofi (talkcontribs) 12:36, 27 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Alexchristofi, you're referring to feedback from months ago. The article is still in the AFC queue so any other AFC reviewer can take a look at it now. It doesn't have to be me. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 13:47, 27 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding this, see what I stated here on Popcornduff's talk page and what Popcornduff stated.

I understand what you mean, but the editor did move it to draft space. So the editor can work on it in draft space. We should take a "wait and see" approach. Also, before it's redirected, it needs to be moved back to main space so that the edit history and talk page history are preserved. Draft space material is eventually deleted unless it's something like Talk:Star Wars: The Last Jedi/Archive audience response, which preserved the talk page. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 06:23, 29 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Flyer22 Reborn, up to you, but I've seen it submitted to draft multiple times, which is where it's been in contention. You might want to recreate the redirect and have it tagged with R with possibilities or salted. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 07:03, 29 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
When it's recreated, I will ping all of the editors (meaning you included) who commented on whether or not the article should exist, and note that we are now assessing this new incarnation. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 07:08, 29 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 08:57:14, 29 September 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Everestpedia



<Everestpedia (talk) 08:57, 29 September 2019 (UTC)>[reply]

Everestpedia, do not use goodreads as a source. You also need to explain how this person is notable. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 18:26, 29 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Please check all the sourcesEverestpedia (talk) 03:13, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Hello Sir... I have written about Narendra Singh Dhami that he is a Nepalease author then I have also provided 3 or 4 URL (source) of his books, written by Narendra Singh Dhami that you can check.What can be the better and reliable source to prove about author then a Books ? Please Check the Books and you may search on Google 'Narendra Singh Dhami Books' then you will see..I think you are checking only one link. It isn't enough to provide the URL's of book to prove about author of the book.Sorry but iam tired of Wikipedia service,you can search about Narendra Singh Dhami on Google to know is he notable or not . People are buying his books everywhere in the word...his books are available on Both formats digital and Hardcover.

Now I think I have explained why the article about Narendra Singh Dhami should be accepted.

Please Please Please Check all the sources provided,and search about Narendra Singh Dhami on Google,he is already verified on Google.

Sources (Please Check these )

https://books.google.co.in/books/about/Save_The_Planet.html?id=8LqpDwAAQBAJ&source=kp_book_description&redir_esc=y

https://books.google.co.in/books/about/Greater_Nepal.html?id=VOGqDwAAQBAJ&redir_esc=y
https://g.co/kgs/nzCQcJ 
https://g.co/kgs/tu9ckH 
https://g.co/kgs/X8KW9p 
https://g.co/kgs/1GxtKY 

I hope iam not going to reject again.

Thank you..

Everestpedia, you're missing the point. The references need to come from external sources, not sources written by the subject itself. See WP:NOR AngusWOOF (barksniff) 03:18, 30 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Please also check this source about Narendra Singh Dhami...This sources are from News.

https://thehimalayantimes.com/kathmandu/in-brief-294/

http://surnayakhabar.com/?p=1554

Thank you Sir

Please check new resources that I have addedEverestpedia (talk) 06:08, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

https://thehimalayantimes.com/kathmandu/in-brief-294/

http://surnayakhabar.com/?p=1554

Thank you for your pathetic service

WOW Iam impressed with Wikipedia service and Staff's. Thank you for such a stupid and pathetic service. Wikipedia will never be consider as reliable source until Wikipedia has uneducated , stupid and pathetic staff like you. Stupid StaffsEverestpedia (talk) 06:38, 30 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

See User_talk:Girth_Summit#Iam_frustrated.... AngusWOOF (barksniff) 14:30, 30 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Nice try

EverestPedia fandom wiki is founded by Narendra Singh Dhami but this user page with name EverestPedia is different.Iam not a Narendra Singh Dhami but i have been paid to create the article. i got thought of creating Wikipedia username as EverestPedia after seeing EverestPedia random wiki created by Narendra Singh dhami..nice try .i wish you have used your time working on your business.Everestpedia (talk) 18:43, 30 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Everestpedia, the WP:COI still applies AngusWOOF (barksniff) 19:14, 30 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! I recently added a reference for the film from Ain't It Cool News that establishes that the filming for the movie is near completion. Let me know if that helps the article, thank you! Thatguy1987 (talk) 17:10, 29 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thatguy1987, okay, let me see what I can do. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 19:25, 29 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
AngusWOOF, Thank you so much! Thatguy1987 (talk) 00:37, 30 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Doxxing

Hi Angus, I genuinely don't want to cause any gried for you about this, because I absolutely agree with your concerns about the editing in this case, but you might want to quickly re-read WP:DOX. This applies to all editors, even vandals, self-publicists and spam merchants - if the information hasn't been posted on-wiki, we mustn't use it onwiki to link accounts to real identities. An admin has revdelled a couple of your recent edits to my talk page - I wanted to give you a heads up in case there are other steps you need to take. Feel free to remove this message once you've read it, of course. Cheers GirthSummit (blether) 20:39, 30 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Girth Summit, my concern is when there is possible undisclosed paid editing because it is advertising. When I look up the username in general or see that the username is related to the person (shares exact same name, shares last name), what is the right tagging to place there? COI? UDP? Autobio? or nothing? for Autobio, if they write the same info on their user page, can it stay tagged as such? AngusWOOF (barksniff) 21:12, 30 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
AngusWOOF, I share your concerns, but if you look at WP:COI, I think about the fourth paragraph down, it's pretty explicit - do not post identities. If you follow the link breadcrumbs, you have to report to COIN and to ask a functionary to examine the evidence in private. I think in this particular case, the COI doesn't seem to me to be crucially important at this stage - the draft and sourcing are so poor that they will never be published in their current state, regardless of the author's identity. Cheers GirthSummit (blether) 21:21, 30 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Girth Summit, okay, I will post to COIN if I feel like I need to question if anyone's username is connected to the subject and it is not declared right away. Can I still assume that if the username and the subject are the same, they can be autobio tagged or just punt that to COIN? AngusWOOF (barksniff) 21:26, 30 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
AngusWOOF, my understanding is that if it's posted on wiki you can talk about it - so, if their username or something on their user page that gives rise to suspicions, then you're fine, but if it's something off wiki, even if it's someone's Twitter account, blog and Facebook page all saying 'I edit Wikipedia under the name Girth Summit', then you need to reach for a Checkuser or similar before mentioning anything about it. Hope that makes sense. GirthSummit (blether) 21:36, 30 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Girth Summit, got it. Thanks. If they add references on Wikipedia itself to such twitter accounts, then I suppose it's fair game but it has to be done on their side to show they are self-disclosing they edit on Wikipedia. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 21:47, 30 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
AngusWOOF, exactly - if they post through their wiki account that such and such a Twitter account is theirs, then of course you can mention because they've made the connection - but not if it's the other way around. (And for good reason - if ever someone claims to be me on a Twitter and Facebook account, they are trolling me, cos I've got neither!) GirthSummit (blether) 21:51, 30 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Creation of Mid-Hudson Valley Federal Credit Union page

Hello! I believe I have made the changes necessary per your review. I'd welcome any additional feedback for this submission. Thank you!MarySmith1099 (talk) 17:59, 1 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Malcolm waters article declined

Hi sir or madam, I am Jaden7667, the person who created Malcolm Waters, I don’t know why you decline it. So please can you also explain why my article should be merged with Cathay Pacific. Jaden7667 Jaden7667 (talk) 17:09, 2 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Jaden7667, see my comment on the draft. He needs independent notability besides the single event. If that has made him a celebrity as with Sully, then expand on that part of his life. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 17:36, 2 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

AFC Declined

Hi @AngusWOOF I am currently confused by your reasoning, If you can please share some more details. I see that this is on Wikipedia as well? How come the Wikipedia policies are being overlooked for certain articles? for eg :- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time2

Also if you can share what exactly I would need in terms of sources that would be appreciated. My sincere apologies, my intention is not to be rude but I'm confused. I had never submitted an afc before so your help will be much appreciated and if you can also share what does time 2 has that my article didn't have for approval that will be much useful. Thanks & Regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.46.211.242 (talk) 08:32, 3 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

185.46.211.242, the main issues are that you've described a very generic business organization that does not show how it is uniquely notable for Wikipedia. You've written only three lines about the organization:
  • "A decade old digital marketing firm currently active." - which decade? specify year founded and by whom? where is this situated? what do they do?
  • "Raises funds for charity as well from time to time with the networking events." - so what? lots of organizations raise funds and have networking events
  • "For article I've shared below the links which can be used to authenticate and validate their presence on Wikipedia." - half of the links are coming from the organization itself, press releases or interviews. You need secondary news sources that are independent of the subject, not primary social media sources. They also need to support the statements that you make about the company, not just be piled at the end of the article.

Please read WP:MILL and WP:ORG AngusWOOF (barksniff) 13:20, 3 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Questions on recently rejected article

Hi @AngusWOOF,

You recently review my article [2] and rejected it. I had a few questions related to it so that i could improve the article: 1. "This still reads like a resume": Will it help if i add personal life and education and club all the important events of the subject life under career? I looked into similar articles on defense subjects and this seems to the trend in all these articles 2. Praising the subject: Can you point out a few examples which led you to say so? I can edit these so that they are in line to Wiki policy. 3. Needs more external news sources to show neutrality: I have posted references 1-29 on the subject from reputed Indian news papers. I would also like to point out that these references have been checked by previous approves and they had no issue on neutrality and or need of more external sources. I think 25 odd references should be adequate. Please let me know otherwise.--Manas.chafekar (talk) 14:24, 5 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Manas.chafekar, 1) why are you adding "clubs" and "education" like a section? Why are there "Important milestones"? That would make it appear even more like a resume. Education can go in the early career section and Personal life section can come afterwards in a separate section. 2. Praising the subject. The sections pertaining to his "accomplishments" are worded in presenting the subject in a glowing / praising light. Stuff like over-explaining the conditions that he landed in and how he successfully landed. That he supervised different groups or logged thousands of hours / years of experience is also a resume stuffer. The section needs to be written to be more of a biography that walks through his career and events that make him notable. 3) There are a number of sources that are coming from his own writings. Those should be minimized as they are primary and self-published sources. For the purposes of notability, you should highlight the best WP:THREE on the comments / talk page from news sources that show he is notable. Most importantly, I am concerned about the overall conflict of interest as your username implies that you may be connected to the subject. It really needs to be neutralized in tone, and balanced as not everything he has done is praiseworthy. If he's made some high profile mistakes or drew criticism, that has to be included too. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 17:16, 5 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @AngusWOOF,

I made the required changes you suggested. For the Coi, I have already me tioned it on my home page. Please check and let me know. I have resubmitted the article again. Manas.chafekar (talk) 16:55, 28 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]