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I see that you haven't done a lot of editing over the years, so a warm welcome seems appropriate at last. It's very gratifying to see you working on the Bangladesh upazila articles, which could use all the help they can get! I look forward to seeing you around. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 16:03, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

SM Sultan

It was done automatically by the software, rather than being a change that I intentionally applied. Looking over what happened, though, I believe the problem was that you were using the <ref name=german><!-- Gloss by itself --></ref> format in the article body. That doesn't work as intended, unfortunately — a gloss can't be split off from the reference content in that manner so that it's standing alone as the only content nested inside a particular invocation of the ref tags, but rather has to be directly next to the actual content of the reference it's glossing.

So in this particular case, if the gloss is necessary for one particular invocation of the reference but not applicable to others, it might be necessary to create a separate ref=german2 citation for the content that needs to be specifically glossed as "supports solo", citing the specific page number in the source that "supports solo" instead of the entire page range of ref=german, so that the gloss can be left in the references list alongside the content of that particular citation.

Hope that helps a bit. Bearcat (talk) 15:30, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

SICPA submission

Hi Worldbruce. First let me thank you for taking the time to read and comment on my SICPA article. I am very aware of the conflict of interest issues and extremely keen not to fall foul of the rules. I'd just like to ask two favours from you.

The first is just a bit of clarification. You say that links to organisations that SICPA has a relationship with are not so good but I thought that close connections with organisations like the World Bank and Interpol - given the industry that SICPA is in - would be relevant. The problem is finding independnet references that aren't directly from those organisation's websites. Is it still best to simply remove this?

Secondly, would you be happy to review my next draft? And, if so, what is the best process to go about this?

Again, many thanks for your help. IainIainplunkett (talk) 09:31, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

@Iainplunkett: Wikipedia doesn't prohibit the use of non-independent sources like the press releases from the World Bank and Interpol, but the bulk of any article has to come from independent sources. To get the draft into article space it must clear the hurdles of notability and neutrality. Press releases don't help because they can't prove notability and don't present an unbiased view. In practice, they can hurt; one reference a reviewer doesn't like can sour their view and result in a declined submission. I would keep such sources only if they support unique information vital to an understanding of the range of the company's operations.

The best references are books or journal articles written by academics and published by academic presses, for example [1]. Next best are journalistic sources from reputable newspapers or magazines, such as [2]. The latter is not an in-depth source, but contains some choice nuggets, like "The ink for more than 80 percent of the world's currency, including the dollar, comes from Sicpa S.A."

Take your time improving the draft. When it's as good as you can make it, resubmit it using the blue button in the big pink box on the draft. Odds are another volunteer will review it. They may give you different feedback, which can be frustrating, but they may have different strengths than I do. --Worldbruce (talk) 14:59, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

Dead link on the VidAmerica page

Hi. This link on VidAmerica is dead for some reason. Can you re-upload it please? 110.34.81.71 (talk) 17:32, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

I can't re-upload it, because I no longer have access to newspaperarchive.com. It may, as the error message says, be a temporary condition. If not, you could get an account with them so that you could clip the article yourself. Or you could do nothing. It's only a convenience link to a resource that is also available on paper. It doesn't matter if the link is dead, there's no requirement that the source be available online. --Worldbruce (talk) 01:43, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

So, can you re-upload it on Scribd.com pr something? 1.227.241.243 (talk) 21:51, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

No. As I said, I don't have access to newspaperarchive.com. Even if I did, uploading material copied from it would be a violation of copyright and of their terms of service. If you want access to newspaperarchive.com, get your own access. --Worldbruce (talk) 01:03, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Dhaka

Hello, again. Thought I'd continue this on your page. After further research, I was able to find some maps showing the defined municipal limits of the north and south Dhaka city corporations:

Map 1

Map 2

These probably don't include the recent incorporation of more land and suburbs into the city corporations, but they at least show the thanas and upazilas. I guess my final question is how the Dhaka Statistical Metropolitan Area (seen in the second map) is defined? Are the building blocks for this upazilas/thanas or something else? If it's upazilas/thans, exactly which ones outside the city corporation are included in this statistical metropolitan area? It seems that the Greater Dhaka page includes this Dhaka Metropolitan Area and then many, many other upazilas/thanas and municipal corporations. I know see that the term "Dhaka City" actually refers to the "Dhaka Statistical Metropolitan Area" as opposed to the incorporated city, which is how we'd define "city" here in the United States. I'd like us to nail down the area and most recent census population numbers for: Dhaka City Corporation (north and south) and Dhaka Statistical Metropolitan Area, and then on the city's page to be clear throughout the article what we're talking about when we mention "Dhaka" or "city." I might even look into "Greater Dhaka," but that doesn't seem to be an officially defined area, and we'd have to figure out which upazilas (and which parts when the it's only part of them) are included. For that, we'd have to delve down into a level even below upazilas, which I guess are union parishads.

Thanks! --Criticalthinker (talk) 10:54, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

A noble quest, Criticalthinker. I have more than a gigabyte of 2011 census data from the Bangladesh Bureau of Statistics. Give me a few days to poke through their reports and see what answers I can come up with. --Worldbruce (talk) 05:58, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for this. I have one additional question that I thought you might have the answer to. In the city and municipal corporations, are wards a subdivision of the upazilas/thanas whithin those corporations, or of the city corporations, themselves? I guess what I'm wondering is if, as optional divisions, if wards cross upazila/thana borders in cities, or if they are fully contained within their upazilas/thanas? This is just a personal curiosity, not much relating to my interest in redoing the civic administration on Dhaka's page, as I imagine it'd be hard enough to find a total list of thana/upazilas in Dhaka, let alone exactly how many wards it has. --Criticalthinker (talk) 11:11, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

Wards follow city/municipal corporation boundaries, but don't always align with thana boundaries. I'm not aware of any that cross three thana borders, but plenty include portions of two thanas. In contrast, union parishads, the administrative unit below upazilas, are always wholly contained within their upazila. Dhaka's councillors are elected by ward, so when there are municipal elections someone knows exactly how many wards there are, what their boundaries are, what their populations are, who ran for election, and who won. They don't necessarily share the details though, or keep any information that is publicly accessible up to date. --Worldbruce (talk) 16:10, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. This is what I figured and wanted to be sure of, and it's pretty similar to most other countries. Wards are an electoral division of cities/municipalities as opposed to being in the system of administrative divisions. Since I got that out of the way, this gives me another question: When cities or municipalities want to expand into surrounding areas and they don't annex entire upazilas/thanas, are they required to annex entire union parishads/municipalities/cities (administrative divisions) or can they simply annex specific wards (electoral divisons) of those union parishads/municipalities/cities. To put it more simply, do you know of any cities/municipalities which have jurisdiction over only parts of territory adjacent union parishads or other cities/municipalities? --Criticalthinker (talk) 08:59, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

@Criticalthinker: I've never before had occasion to dig into these questions in depth. What I found upends some of my assumptions. Read on. --Worldbruce (talk) 22:02, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

2011 Census

The key source for Dhaka census data is: "Population & Housing Census 2011: National Report Volume-3: Urban Area Report" (PDF). Bangladesh Bureau of Statistics. It gives the following historical background:

The Dhaka Municipality was established in 1864 ... The municipal committee was reconstituted as paurashava in 1972 ... In 1983 it was replaced as Dhaka Municipal Corporation and finally in 1991 it got the status of a city corporation.

When the report refers to the city (usually as Dhaka City, but also Dhaka Metropotitan [sic] City or Dhaka Metropolitan Area) it means an area larger than that covered by Dhaka City Corporation (DCC). A third entity, Dhaka Mega City, larger than Dhaka City, is mentioned briefly.

Dhaka City

The report describes the city as follows:

[The city] consists of 42 thanas including Dhaka City Corporation with 92 wards, 2 restricted areas, and 837 mahallas and its adjoining 17 unions as other urban area. The thanas are Adabar, Badda, Bangshal, Bimanbandar, Cantonment, Chakbazar, Darusalam, Demra, Dakshin Khan, Dhanmondi, Gendaria, Ghulshan, Hazaribagh, Jatrabari, Kadamtali, Kafrul, Kalabagan, Kamrangir Char, Khilgaon, Khilkhet, Kotwali, Lalbagh, Mirpur, Mohammadpur, Motijheel, Newmarket, Palton, Pallabi, Ramna, Rampura, Sabujbagh, Shah Ali, Shahbagh, Sher-e-Bangla Nagar, Shyampur, Sutrapur, Tejgaon, Tejgaon Industrial area, Tongi, Uttara, Uttar Khan and Wari.

Their phrasing is difficult to parse without studying their tables, and I hope you can come up with a clearer explanation. Breaking it down, Dhaka City consists of the 42 listed thanas. Another way to put it is that Dhaka City consists of DCC plus 2 restricted areas and 17 union parishads. Those 17 unions are parts of 12 of the thanas, specifically the portions of those thanas that extend outside DCC. (Four of those unions are split among thanas, something I didn't know could happen).

		Union
		Badda	Beraid	Bhatara	Dakshingaon	Dakshinkhan	Demra	Dhania	Dumni	Harirampur	Manda	Matuail	Nasirabad	Saralia	Satarkul	Shyampur	Sultanganj	Uttar Khan
Thana	Badda	•	•	•											•
	Biman Bandar					part
	Dakshinkhan					part
	Demra						•					part		•
	Jatrabari							part				part
	Kadamtali							part				part				•
	Kamrangirchar																•
	Khilgaon				part								•
	Khilkhet					part			•
	Sabujbag				part						•
	Turag									•
	Uttarkhan																	•

The city is divided into 92 wards, but one doesn't need to know that to understand the census area and population. The number of mahallas is also a red herring.

According to the 2011 Bangladesh census, Dhaka City had an area of 315.98 sq km, and a population of 8,906,039. According to the 2001 census, it had an area of 1371 sq km, and a population of 9,672,763. There is a discussion, that I will leave to you to read, of how the census bureau abandoned the concept of Statistical Metropolitan Areas (SMAs) after the 2001 census and how that makes comparisons between the censuses difficult.

DCC

Historical population

Year	Pop. (000)	±%
1981	2,476	—
1991	3,613	+45.9%
2001	5,327	+47.4%
2011	6,970	+30.8%
2011 population excludes the restricted areas of Biman Bandar and Cantonment Source: Bangladesh Bureau of Statistics

According to the 2011 Bangladesh census, DCC had an area of 126.34 sq km, and a population of 6,970,105. The 2011 census excluded from DCC the two restricted areas, Biman Bandar and Cantonment, which previously had been included in the DCC line item. I believe this accounts for the decrease in the area of DCC from 153.84 sq km in 2001. The exclusion of the restricted areas also decreased population somewhat, but that was more than offset by population growth.

Dhaka Mega City

The report doesn't say much about Dhaka Mega City, but it is evident that they define it as Dhaka City plus five paruashavas (municipal corporations), and six upazilas. The paruashavas are: Gazipur, Tongi, Savar, Narayanganj, and Kadam Rasul. The upazilas are: Keraniganj, Bandar, Narayanganj Sadar, Gazipur Sadar, and Savar Upazila. According to the 2011 Bangladesh census, Dhaka Mega City had a population of 14,171,567.

Subsequent events

After the 2011 census, DCC was split into DNCC and DSCC.

In May 2016, DNCC was expanded from 82.63 sq km to 114.58 square kilometres (44.24 sq mi), and DSCC was expanded from 45 sq km to 64.17 square kilometres (24.78 sq mi).

Basic arithmetic is not original research, so we should be able to compute the population, as of 2011, of the area now within the bounds of DNCC and DSCC. This post is getting long, so I'll leave that for another day. --Worldbruce (talk) 22:02, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

References

Thanks. This is a lot to take in but it answer basically all of my questions. To sum everything up:

- Like in most places I've studied, municipal and administrative divisions are two different layers. As an example, we've learned that city/municipal/union councils can exist in multiple thanas/upazilas. These municipalities are overlaid atop the administrative divisions.

- Apparently, when Dhaka's two city corporations annex land from surrounding municipalities, they annex entire council areas and not just parts of the council areas.

- Dhaka City Corporation (now split between DNCC and DSCC) is what we'd call a "city proper" and this is what the page should be centered around as it relates to the population and area listed in the infobox and throughout. So, at the most recent census (2011) we had a city proper with a population of 6,970,105 at 127.63 sq km in size. While we won't have an official population until the next census (though, there are certainly estimates), what we do know is that the city proper with the addition of 16 union councils has now added an additional 178.75 sq km to the existing 127.63 square miles for a total area of 306.38 sq km.

- Dhaka "City" is a statistical area/definition that adds in close-by suburbs. To better differentiate it from the city proper, I'd most likely almost always refer to it by it's official name to avoid confusion: Dhaka Statistical Metropolitan Area. What I'm far less clear of is the whole 42 thanas thing, so it'd need to be specified which of these thanas are totally within the two city corporations, which whole thanas exist outside of the two city corporations, and then finally which parts (union councils) of the remaining thanas are included. I'm not sure if the 42 number is just the thanas in the city corporations or if the 42 number is whole thanas and parts of others.

Anyway, thanks, again. If you ever need me for any advice if you ever try to clarify the page, always feel free to ask. --Criticalthinker (talk) 12:37, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Actually, the more I think about this the more I want a list so we know which complete thanas/upazilas and which parts of others (the unions) make up the two municipal corporations. I want to be able to clearly define this. Also, do you happen to know the translation of the texts on this map in the map's key? Because that might help with this. --Criticalthinker (talk) 08:10, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

Sorry to bug you Worldbruce, but were you ever able to compile a list of all of the thanas completely under the jurisdiction of the two Dhaka city corporations, and then those union councils under the city coporations in the adjacent thanas/upazilas?

Hello? --Criticalthinker (talk) 08:22, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi Criticalthinker. Your question is not forgotten. I was on the road, and consequently not editing, for a couple months earlier this year, and have never caught up from that. As near as I recall, all the necessary information is in the above references, it's just a matter of digging it out. Anyone can do that, you don't have to wait for me. I don't think the map on the Dhaka District page contains enough detail to be useful for your purpose. The legend reads, from top to bottom: District borders, Thana, Union, Thana headquarters, and District headquarters. What it calls thanas have, since 1984, been called upazilas, it doesn't show any subdivisions within the city, and it doesn't show all the unions. --Worldbruce (talk) 15:12, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

I only ask you, because I have tried researching this myself. You've layed out many of the problems I find: the maps don't show the thana/upazilas, or the ones that do don't show the unions. It becomes even more difficult given that I don't speak or read the language. Curiously, there seems to be many maps showing the wards, but those aren't administrative divisions of the state. We've nailed down that the two municipal corporations includes both thanas in their entirety (though, we still don't have a comprehensive list of even these), but also that they include only parts of thanas (unions), too, but nailing down which of those unions belong to the two city corporations has proven very difficult. --Criticalthinker (talk) 06:44, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

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Recommending new editors to your WP Bangladesh

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Hi Worldbruce, I update the recommendation list sent to you earlier. I fixed some bugs in the previous version (as you might have seen that some editors on the previous list were not quite active). Very sorry about it, but now, everything should be good! Please take a look, and let me know what you think! Thank you! Bobo.03 (talk) 16:55, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

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Fareast International University

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Fareast International University

Hi Worldbruce, I'm from the information & publication wing of Fareast International University, Banani, Dhaka, Bangladesh. Thanks for your appreciation. Our Hon'ble Chairman, BoT, Mr. Sheikh Kabir Hossain do not want to display this information "It was founded by Sheikh Kabir Hossain, relative of Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina." It was inserted in Wiki by someone else not from FIU. So that's why it has been removed. Thanks again for your understanding. Mshm24 (talk) 09:37, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

traded_as issue

Dear Worldbruce, you gave me a task about adding traded_as perameter in infobox. I have looked at this list and added the perameter in some articles from the list. Most of the companies, in that list, are not notable. So, I found only 12 articles in wikipedia. However, let me know about my progress and give me suggestion if I do any wrong. If you have any tast/project/cleaning up work like this, please give me a chance to do the work. I will be very happy to do that.- Rafi (talk) 16:46, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

Draft:National City Depot

Hello, Worldbruce. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or draft page you started, Draft:National City Depot.

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it. — JJMC89 (T·C) 02:14, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Please

Please update national Parliament of Bangladesh articles, election 2018

Election information source : http://www.ecs.gov.bd/bec/public/files/1/11th%20nation_result_1_100.xlsx

37.111.232.170 (talk) 18:00, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

AY-3-8500

I am currently working on an article about the 6-in-1 video game chip AY-3-8500 by General Instrument from the 70s. After extensive research it turned out that there still are some gaps: 1) How many chips were produced and 2) When was end of production. I am stuck. The main source left to be checked is the journal Weekly Television Digest. You helped me out with that magazine when I was looking for info about Fairchild's Channel F video game console some time ago. So, I would like to ask, if you can help me again? Unfortunately there are no entries for the the term 'AY-3-8500' but for 'General Instrument' and their 'chip' (16 entries for 1975 https://books.google.de/books?hl=de&id=7B8qAQAAIAAJ&dq=general+instrument+television+digest+1976&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=general+instrument ; 13 entries for 1976, pls. cf. https://books.google.de/books?hl=de&id=gSEqAQAAIAAJ&dq=general+instrument+television+digest+1976&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=general+instrument). So, everything has to be be checked manually (1975 - 1982/3). I know this is a difficult task, but I don't know who I should ask as Weekly Television Digest is not widespread where I live (Germany). Please let me know, Schnurrikowski (talk) 12:26, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

@Schnurrikowski: I couldn't find the answers you're looking for, but have emailed you what I found, along with an explanation of what I couldn't search and suggestions about how to proceed. --Worldbruce (talk) 16:13, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

@Worldbruce: Many, many thanks for all your efforts and great help! Best regards from Germany, Schnurrikowski (talk) 17:47, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

Untitled post

Hi Worldbruce. Thank you for the educational information on what qualifies as an official webpage. I was wondering why people such as the musician Prince still have official web pages linked to their accounts when he is no longer with us. If it is because the owners of his licensing run it and that qualifies then my question is why would Steve Kaufman's official website not qualify when the owners of his rights and licensing run that current webpage for him after his death? Thank you so much for your time! — Preceding unsigned comment added by DrTazz (talk • contribs) 04:02, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

@DrTazz: Thank you for your question, which has been moved to the bottom of the page. New talk page topics should always be added to the bottom. In the future you can use the "New section" link in the top right to place discussions correctly. For more details see the talk page guidelines. Also, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion (but never when editing articles), please be sure to sign your posts. There are two ways to do this. Either:

1. Add four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment, or
2. With the cursor positioned at the end of your comment, click on the signature button located above the edit window.

This will automatically insert a signature with your username or IP address and the time you posted the comment. This information is necessary to allow other editors to easily see who wrote what and when.

Fuzzik15 requested on 27 May 2017 that an official website be added to Prince (musician). Their request was correctly rejected. An IP editor added one on 10 November 2017. It appears that no one noticed until you mentioned it. The website has been removed from his biography. --Worldbruce (talk) 13:41, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

What do you think?

Do you think the two recent votes on the A. Sims AFD are socks or meatpuppets? I'm wondering if it is worth an SPI.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 17:03, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

FYI, they were socks, as is Dr Tazz in the above thread. Blocked quickly by ST47.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 17:27, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

@ThatMontrealIP: Thanks, I'm not surprised. DrTazz's limited contributions also included edits to another artist represented by American Pop Art, Inc. (Steve Kaufman), so it may have been undeclared paid editing as well. So tiresome. --Worldbruce (talk) 00:10, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Thank you for the help and suggestions on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Isaac_Adeola_Odeyemi have added more citations and revised sources. Thanks for your input, really appreciate the feedback. CraigMc1979 (talk) 07:30, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for your information... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.12.73.26 (talk) 04:38, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

Thryv Article

Hey Worldbruce -

I appreciate your response to my attempts to update the article on Dex YP/Thryv. I apologize if I was unclear in my original message.

To clarify... I am NOT being compensated for my work on this article by Thryv or anybody else.

Full disclosure: I *did* used to work for Thryv, but left the company in April of this year. I still have a number of friends who work there, some of whom are in the Marketing department. One of them was concerned because the Dex YP article has been languishing for years on Wikipedia with info that is outdated and/or inaccurate. He asked me if I could wrangle it into shape, and I agreed to do so as a personal favor.

The last article was written back when the company was called Dex YP. They officially changed their name to Thryv earlier this year. Also, the last article had been flagged for sounding too much like an advertisement. Those were the two issues I was trying to address.

When I agreed to write the article, I explained to the folks at Thryv that it would be factual. They wanted me to sugarcoat some of the info, such as the bankruptcy, but I explained to them that wasn't how this worked. I fully understand that Wikipedia is not a marketing channel, and I've explained to them that this is not the forum for hawking products and services.

I honestly made a good-faith effort to rewrite the article so that it was factual and unbiased. I included a number of secondary references, such as BusinessWire and Wall Street Journal. The information I pulled from Thryv's own sources was strictly factual (number of employees, locations of offices, earnings in 2018, etc.) and in no way promotional.

I really am trying to work within the system here and do this correctly. I'll admit, it's a bit frustrating. My first attempt was rejected because the editor claimed I didn't cite enough secondary sources. I suspect this was a misunderstanding, as the sources I cited referred to the company by its previous names (Supermedia, Dex Media, and Dex YP), rather than its new name (which, as I mentioned, they haven't had long). And my second attempt, as you know, was rejected because of a perceived conflict of interest.

If there is an actual issue with the content, then I would be delighted to address it. If you feel some parts of it are skewed or need to be reworked, I'll be happy to do so.

If, however, you honestly believe that I'm incapable of writing an unbiased article about the company, then I'll defer to your judgement and tell the folks at Thryv that they'll just have to sit and wait and hope that one day, somebody with no affiliation with the company will happen across their article and take it upon themselves to fix it.

Thank you,

CapnPhantasm — Preceding unsigned comment added by CapnPhantasm (talk • contribs) 18:53, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

Request for Review

Hi, I was wondering if you would review the page of Shah Sultan Rumi, an 11th century Sufi saint who settled in Bengal. Thanks and greetings. Mosesheron (talk) 15:46, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

TOMMY ROBERTS

Thank you for the information. I am perplexed as to how to add another subtitle. Above RETIREMENT I want to add AWARDS Is it possible for you to make that change for me. I can then add those to the article. Then I can add citations and finish it. THANK YOU Monmouth1946 Monmouth1946 (talk) 21:02, 13 December 2019 (UTC)

@Monmouth1946: I added an awards section to Draft:TOMMY ROBERTS and adjusted the existing use of sections to more closely conform to other Wikipedia articles. Be aware that trying to write an article before laying out the sources is like building a house before pouring the foundation. Such an enterprise has a very high risk of failure. --Worldbruce (talk) 01:09, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

Thank You so much... I have the references. I finally figured out how to number them in the text. When and most importantly if do it the right way, would you take a look at the finished product.. And let me know what you recommend. I can’t thank you enough for your input N

Monmouth1946 (talk) 01:27, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for the assistance. I have the references. I just need to place them in the correct portions of the text. I think I have it figured out. Would you be kind enough to take a look at the finished product when that happens. Again, I cannot hank you enough. Monmouth1946

Monmouth1946 (talk) 01:32, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

Revert issue

Hi, Worldbruce, you revert my edit. it is wrong direction. please undo that after verify. 1973 Bangladeshi general election is first election in Bangladesh after liberation. I have added the names of the winning parliamentarians in two successive elections ‍at Brahmanbaria-4 . One of them already has an article. thx for your wiki activities. --DelwarHossain (talk) 14:31, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

@DelwarHossain: No. I agree that the 1973 Bangladeshi general election was the first election in Bangladesh. But it was not the first election in Brahmanbaria-4, because that constituency did not exist in 1973. Brahmanbaria District was not created until 1984. The first election to represent Brahmanbaria-4 was in 1986. Sirajul Haque (or possibly Serajul Huq (politician), I'm not sure if they're the same person) was elected to parliament in 1973, but to represent Comilla-4, not the non-existent Brahmanbaria-4. --Worldbruce (talk) 14:59, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

Worldbruce, You are Right. I see comilla-4. Parliamentary seat format has been set up next Brahmanbaria-4. Serajul Huq (politician) was a member Comilla-4 . Now some area is Brahmanbaria-4. thank you for your reply. --DelwarHossain (talk) 15:05, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

Cheers

Merry Christmas, Worldbruce! Or Season's Greetings or Happy Winter Solstice! As the year winds to a close, I would like to take a moment to recognize your hard work and offer heartfelt gratitude for all you do for Wikipedia. May this Holiday Season bring you nothing but joy, health and prosperity.Onel5969 TT me 23:23, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

Barry Brewer Article Submission

WorldBruce,

Thank you for your review of my draft. I received your notes and am writing to state that I am in no way a paid advocate and I am not receiving any form of compensation for this article, directly or indirectly. It is not clear to me what edits led to that conclusion, but my recent edits were all made to accommodate the suggestions of the last member who reviewed the original submission back in November, Captain Eek. Please let me know if there is any further information I need to provide or additional edits I need to make in order to have this article approved.

Thank you, MichaelMonet44 Michaelmonet44 (talk) 04:32, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Worldbruce!

Happy New Year!

Worldbruce,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
-Nahal^(T) 23:14, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

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