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will you kindly provide me certain prediction, as it is better to be declined on talk page rather to be declined on that particular page, It seems humiliating, kindly give the rough idea, whether I will get it or not, looking forward for your positive reply, lots of love[[User:Majun e Baqi|Majun e Baqi]] ([[User talk:Majun e Baqi|talk]]) 02:42, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
will you kindly provide me certain prediction, as it is better to be declined on talk page rather to be declined on that particular page, It seems humiliating, kindly give the rough idea, whether I will get it or not, looking forward for your positive reply, lots of love[[User:Majun e Baqi|Majun e Baqi]] ([[User talk:Majun e Baqi|talk]]) 02:42, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

Kindly, inform me when you will finish analysing the contributions and logs[[User:Majun e Baqi|Majun e Baqi]] ([[User talk:Majun e Baqi|talk]]) 05:07, 17 July 2020 (UTC)


== [[Mind.Capital]] ==
== [[Mind.Capital]] ==

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ANI close

Thank you for closing the ANI thread. I just have one follow up question - I would have thought that the conduct the editor who rage-quit would have been reviewable and eligible for a short term block. I don't think they're coming back, but I'm concerned of short term disruption if they do. Their conduct was clearly unacceptable, and they thought they would get blocked. I'm mostly asking because I'm still slightly frustrated my ask for a review was disrupted the way it was. What would have been a better way to handle this? SportingFlyer T·C 04:29, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

SportingFlyer, I don't know that there was a better way you could have handled it. I mean maybe not asking if that other editor is alright but overall I think some ANI threads just go off the rails. As for that edit, I think you're right that had the editor stuck around some sysop would have blocked for it. There is no question in my mind the content made them eligible for a block. Speaking for myself, by the time I reviewed it, it felt stale and so I wouldn't have blocked for it even if they stuck around (assuming that they had not made future inappropriate edits). But noting the edit should a future pattern emerge was important and so I left the warning on their talk page. Hope that helps. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 04:36, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your response, I'm more satisfied now. (My ask if they were okay was genuine but probably wasn't the best for keeping things on topic.) SportingFlyer T·C 05:30, 5 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Inquiry

Hello captain, when doing new page reviewing, if you nominate an article for deletion, is the page automatically marked as “reviewed”. Secondly, during AFC draft reviewing, I see the option to “review” is present, if I may ask what does this mean? Does this mean a “draft” article can be marked as reviewed? I’m sorry if this questions may sound inane but since I’m new in operating this software I’d rather ask questions than do something I’m unsure of. Celestina007 (talk) 21:01, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Celestina007, in AfC marking it under review just "claims" it so some other reviewer doesn't step in when you're working on it. You probably won't use it very much. And yes when you nominate a page for deletion at AfD using the toolbar it will automatically mark it reviewed. That is standard practice. But you should really be using Twinkle - the toolbar has some bugs with deletion which can be avoided by using Twinkle. I always welcome questions so feel free to ask them anytime. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 21:42, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
A follow up question would be this, if you tag an article with any CSD related tags should you still mark the page as reviewed? Or does placing a CSD tag on article also auto-mark the page as reviewed? Celestina007 (talk) 00:21, 4 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Celestina007, CSD tagged articles should not be marked reviewed. Because if the tag is declined for any reason the page still needs to be patrolled. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 01:04, 4 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Aye Aye Captain, you’ve been helpful. Celestina007 (talk) 01:08, 4 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Request for WP:REVDEL

@Barkeep49: Since you have shown an interest in my edits at Kamala Harris, please consider WP:REVDEL of these two serious WP:BLP violations by SPA IP user 2601:647:4F00:7D:B415:EE6C:D5C6:628D that I undid today.

Thank you. NedFausa (talk) 19:34, 4 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

NedFausa,  Done. I am indeed watching edits surring Harris given the recent Intercept article. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 19:42, 4 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Credible Claim Of Significance / Importance

Captain I got a theoretical question to ask, Hypothetically speaking I run into an article that states “Mr ABC was the 42nd President of XYZ country” without any single source at all added to the article, could an A7 apply? Or am I mandated to do a WP:BEFORE to confirm this ? Even if I confirm this to be true what do I do next? Celestina007 (talk) 08:55, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) Celestina007, that's definitely a claim of significance. Whether it's credible is another matter - if the article says 'Girth Summit was the 42nd president of the USA', that's not credible - you know for a fact it's not true. If it's a country that you're not sure about though, then yes, best to check - it ought to be fairly straightforward for an assertion of that nature, even for fairly small countries. If you find a supporting source, add it to the article; if you come to the conclusion that the assertion isn't true, because there are no sources at all to support the statement, it seems more likely to be a G3 hoax than an A7. GirthSummit (blether) 09:04, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Girth Summit, I often come across such bold claims & often I am unsure of what course of action to take next. Thanks for the clarification. Celestina007 (talk) 09:10, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Re: NPP School

I noticed above that you offered to continue NPP school for a user. While I'm happy to take a wait (I have discovered a new found love in rving copyvios), I wanted to know if it would be less of a hassle and easier for you for me to leave the NPP school while you help the user during, or so I have gathered, your partial Wikibreak. I am completely fine with continuing but want to make sure it isn't a hassle for you to do so. I would like to get your opinion on the matter 😀. — Yours, Berrely • TalkContribs 17:03, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Berrely, apologies. I did indeed take a break but truth be told our work had dropped off my radar before then. I take it you would like to continue? I am a bit behind in my NPP School work at the moment with two other students but will be happy to resume with you as well if you want. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 00:49, 7 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Sure! If it isn't a hassle 😁 — Yours, Berrely • TalkContribs 07:43, 7 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Unfair rejection of my submission Draft:Kapil Sankhla

Hi, seeking your help to understand why my draft, submitted just a couple of hours ago under AfC got rejected citing the reason - the cases do not seem important enough to justify an article. If you go through the content and the independent references, all cases that I have mentioned have made headlines in all the noteworthy tabloids at the time and were high-profile in the country, which itself proves that they were well-known. Had they not been as well-known, would I have found as many independent references? One of the cases - Gopal Goyal Kanda - is also discussed on a Wikipedia page of the same name, although they have discussed the facts and not mentioned the lawyer, something that I intended to add using my references. I feel it is unjustified, but please let me know what you can make of the matter. Thanks in advance, regards, Tycheana (talk) 16:52, 9 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Tycheana, Please stop going to to multiple administrators and asking this question. I see you've gone to at least DGG, DESiegel, and Captain Eek. DGG actually reviewed your article so he is the right person to be talking to not any of the rest of us. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 17:01, 9 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Barkeep49, yes I did write to multiple admins, including the reviewer and the AfC help desk, because I am admittedly a bit disconcerted by the verdict. This time I thoroughly vetted the sources and checked that they are independent and noteworthy enough to be listed on Wikipedia, and that the content also has references on other Wiki pages, so I am at a loss as to how to interpret this verdict. Thanks for the pointer anyway, best regards & stay safe, Tycheana (talk) 17:18, 9 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Tycheana, I can understand feeling discouraged. But an attempt to work with DGG, who I know will help editors is the right first step. If you don't think you're getting the kind of help you need the Teahouse is the right next step. Going to individual sysops/reviewers is somewhat disruptive. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 17:21, 9 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Barkeep49, in that case - sincere apologies. I did write to the AfC help desk as also the reviewer, and am awaiting their replies. Meanwhile should I put it up on the Teahouse too? Sorry once again, best regards, Tycheana (talk) 17:25, 9 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Tycheana, wait for the reply from DGG. That's your first and, given who DGG is and how he works, best place. If you don't hear from him in a couple of days then do the teahouse. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 17:31, 9 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Barkeep49, will do as you have suggested. Many thanks for the guidance, Tycheana (talk) 17:44, 9 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) Tycheana Another editor apparently removed your post on the AfC help desk by accident -- I have restored it. I did take a quick look at your draft, and it seems to me that the draft said more about the cases and little about the lawyer, regardless of the importance of the cases. But I would lso advise waiting for DGG, who is a quite experienced and generally helpful editor. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 17:46, 9 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) Hi DESiegel, duly noted - I created the draft on the presumption that the credibility of any lawyer would be through his cases wherein he is mentioned in all news reports concerning these. That being said I will seek guidance from the reviewer as suggested and understand where I have gone awry. Many thanks & best regards, Tycheana (talk) 17:56, 9 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
BK, thanks for the good words. DGG ( talk ) 20:44, 9 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

These articles

This this editor has been creating poorly written article for a long time now, they are giving reviewers a hard time to fix their mess. I think a topic ban may be suitable, or what do you think? Megan Barris (Lets talk📧) 17:07, 9 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Megan, can you point to me where they've given reviewers a hard time? At least from their user talk I don't see any real attempt to work with this user, just a lot of automated messages. A genuine attempt at outreach feels needed but it's possible that's happened somewhere other than their user talk. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 17:20, 9 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Barkeep49, here, [1], just to mention a few of the warning and personal messages on their talk page. Most of the articles have been moved to draft space but they keep bringing them back to mainspace without improvements. Megan Barris (Lets talk📧) 17:24, 9 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page watcher) I looked at their contributions. The editor has never interacted with any other editors; they just churn out (really messy) articles. Their only contributions on any Talk page were to add content as if it was the article page. There's no indication they've ever even seen the many messages on their Talk page. It might be necessary to block just long enough to get their attention and get them talking. Schazjmd (talk) 17:30, 9 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Schazjmd & Megan I am not opposed to a block to get them to start talking - I had looked at their contribs too. However, I still think one thoughtful non-automated attempt at outreach and offer of help is necessary first. If they continue to create articles after that I have no issues levying such a block. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 17:34, 9 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Well on further review there was enough there to indef until communication starts and so I have blocked them. Barkeep49 (talk) 17:44, 9 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Could you please block user:2600:6C58:6580:21:8162:1BAE:B3AD:C70D asap. CLCStudent (talk) 02:35, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

CLCStudent,  Done Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 02:38, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! CLCStudent (talk) 02:39, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Which Indian tabloids are regarded as noteworthy?

Hi, I wanted to seek your opinion on the Indian tabloids that are regarded as noteworthy enough to be used as sources on Wikipedia. When it comes to news reports on the current events of the day, can India Today, Business Standard, Economic Times and Financial Express be regarded as reliable and reputed sources? This is not about interviews or editorials, just news reports. Also Press Trust of India - can it be treated as a reliable source? Thanks in advance, Tycheana (talk) 17:34, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) Here's what I was told: Reliable Indian sources (copied from an AfD post for Bibhusita Das): In case you are still interested: the two big news RS in India are 'The Times of India' (TOI) (except for entertainment coverage, which is for-pay spam per WBG) and The Hindu. After that you have the New Indian Express, The Economic Times, The Telegraph and the Hindustan Times. There are some decent regionals such as the Deccan Chronicle etc. I'd put Firstpost and The Business Standard on the list too, but some may not agree. —valereee (talk) 17:53, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page stalker), I've been indexing RSN discussions about sources, including Indian ones, for a bit now. Wikipedia:New_page_patrol_source_guide#India has the most up to date assessment of enWiki's consensus on these sources, with citations to the actual discussions as well. signed, Rosguill talk 18:06, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Tycheana: let me just endorse Rosguill's page as a good place to turn for understandings of what are and are not RS. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 18:20, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Barkeep49:, thanks - duly noted. Why I wanted to ask is that I have used precisely these sources - TOI, The Hindu, The Business Standard and Economic Times - and for some reason reviewer DGG is disregarding them as being unreliable, despite these being news reports and not interviews, editorials, blogs and so on. Can I use Rosguill's page as a reference to justify the validity of my sources to him? Many thanks, regards, Tycheana (talk) 19:40, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Tycheana, I'm going to quote from the "How to use and improve this page section" While the discussions cited in this page may be useful resources when arguing about a given source's reliability, a source's inclusion in any given category on this page should not be used as an argument in any protracted discussion over a source's reliability. Note as well that coverage needs to be significant. Assuming that this is a dispute over Draft:Kapil Sankhla, the primary issue with the few sources that I randomly looked through on that page is that they do not have significant coverage of the subject, not that the sources themselves were necessarily unreliable. So the problem isn't that The Hindu is unreliable, it's that the article you cite only briefly mentions the subject without saying anything significant about him. signed, Rosguill talk 19:46, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

darnit...

...they closed that discussion while I was on the road. :) Do you mind if I continue our discussion? You wrote: So your answer is that the landlord has little obligation to shrug off grumblers. I disagree. I also disagree that the housemates have no obligation in pushing back against rude grumblers. In a professional context the professional has some obligation to handle rude behavior. And that handling could be ignoring it in favor of the many comments which were not rude and asked questions or suggested reasonable things. Absolutely not. The landlord absolutely has an obligation to not just shrug off but to listen to grumblers, try to understand their side of things, and try to adjust. The landlord's reps have the same obligation as long as no one is generally treating them as if they're there voluntarily and should just put up with rudeness like the rest of us volunteers do. And absolutely we need to tell our housemates to stop behaving badly. And sorry about the misping, ugh, I tried to use the damn reply link, it broke, and I had to copy-paste, and I was on the way out the door for a daylong drive. I do know that happens to you. —valereee (talk) 20:57, 11 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

NPP school admission request

Hi Barkeep49, hope that you are fine. I'm here to request you to accept me as your pupil in NPP training. I'm 3 months old user and has made over 3000 edits. Ping me if you agree. Thank you. Empire AS Talk! 06:51, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Empire AS, unfortunately I don't have capacity for another student at the moment. Sorry. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 15:57, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Can you suggest me another trainer? Thank you. Empire AS Talk! 16:09, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Empire AS, I have worked with all the trainers and they're all good people from whom you can learn a bunch. So I would look at their user pages see who gives you a good feel and approach them. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 15:04, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your help. Empire AS Talk! 15:52, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Kevin Andrew Tan Review

Hello Barkeep49! Can I ask for your assistance with this article Draft: Kevin Andrew Tan? Can we make the review process faster in the AfC? It's quite frustrating that this article is pending for a month already. I believe this article has been disclosed already and has complied with Wikipedia's policy regarding the COI issue. I don't know why it takes so long. It would mean a lot if you would help revise the article for further improvements, if there's any and finally, moving it to the mainspace. Thank you so much. 152.32.111.24 (talk) 09:42, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I don't generally review things a second time. As the notice says it can take 7 weeks or more for a review to be completed. The extensive sockpuppetry is likely also a factor in slowing the review of the article. So unfortunately there isn't much you can do than wait. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 15:03, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Barkeep49, just a friendly reminder that you opened this review back on June 17 and have yet to begin it, in case it slipped off your radar. Hope all is well. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:48, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Ecclesia Athletic Association you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of The idiocy -- The idiocy (talk) 01:01, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

EBCDIC code pages

I noticed a number of EBCDIC code pages have recently been listed as having been slated for "transwikify and deletion". What does transwikify mean? I suppose there must have been some sort of group AfD...I never noticed any flag about AfD, despite having many of the pages on my watchlist. Could you point me to where the deletion discussion took place? Thanks! Jacona (talk) 12:44, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It was indeed a grouped discussion, Jacona. You can find the discussion was at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Code page 875 (it's also linked on all the talk pages). Transwikify means to move the content, including revision history, to another project. Let me know if you have any further questions. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 13:09, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! What project would it be moved to?Jacona (talk) 13:55, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Jacona, the project mentioned was Wikisource however early discussion there indicates it might end up being Wikibooks. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 15:02, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nice closure on this one if I may say so. If this reaches the point where nobody has moved them and deletion is imminent then please give us a ping and I'll try to pick up the Transwiki. I don't want to get involved unless I have to as I have a blank mind on this and starting from zero and probably ought to be doing something else. As a last resort I'll pick it up. Thanks. Djm-leighpark (talk) 08:46, 16 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

EBCDIC deletion decision

I am having trouble understanding how 5 Keeps, 3 Delete and 3 Transwiki would result with a delete or transwiki decision. When looking at the votes I would see a no-consensus decision. There is no difference between the EBCDIC code pages and any of the other character encoding lists. I guess we can put it up on deletion review and ask for an overturn to no-consensus. Even some Transwiki administrators are asking why this is up for deletion. DavidDelaune (talk) 19:17, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

DavidDelaune, because it's not a vote and the keeps were, on the whole, weighted less because they offered fewer policy/guideline supported reasons for their position. You referenced an essay which can, at times have value (WP:IDONTLIKEIT is an essay which can have value for instance) but as it has not been accepted by the community got less weight (not no weight, just less weight). Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 19:33, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Barkeep49, Could you clarify something for me? Are you saying that my vote counts less? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DavidDelaune (talkcontribs) 12:50, July 14, 2020 (UTC)
@DavidDelaune: Participation at AfD is not a vote. It is a discussion. You can read more about that idea here. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 23:26, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
DavidDelaune, your vote doesn't count at all, it's not a ballot, even though people vote. In the end, it's someone's judgment call. From my point of view, I feel like it was a top secret AfD. Somehow, in spite of having many of the articles on my watchlist, I never saw a deletion discussion. All kinds of silly entertainers and athletes, schools and malls get articles, but the base layer of the computer age gets trashed.Jacona (talk) 23:40, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Your vote counts. The keeps failed to show that the articles were notable; a transwiki vote was in effect, an alternative to a delete vote; the nominator's vote was a seventh transwiki/delete vote. Even if I had voted keep (which I originally did, but the notability concern caused me to be not so sure), there would have been 5 keep votes and 7 transwiki/delete votes, so the result would have still been transwiki or delete. Alexlatham96 (talk) 21:46, 16 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The article Ecclesia Athletic Association you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Ecclesia Athletic Association for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of The idiocy -- The idiocy (talk) 21:41, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The article Ecclesia Athletic Association you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Ecclesia Athletic Association for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of The idiocy -- The idiocy (talk) 01:41, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats, bk! Killiondude (talk) 16:17, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Killiondude, thanks! I appreciate your copyediting when that article first went live. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 16:49, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Literary Barnstar
For you efforts improving Caldecott Medal to (soon to be) WP:FL status, and your many contributions to WP:CHILDLIT over the years. Keep it up! Sro23 (talk) 03:06, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Patrolled vs. Reviewed: followup

Hi there! hope you're well. I wanted to briefly follow up and close the loop on this thread User talk:Barkeep49/Archives/4#Patrolled vs. Reviewed - silly question from a rookie reviewer

I've been using the page curation toolbar the whole time I've been working NPP. But I couldn't understand why I didn't have any entries in my patrol log. My page curation log continually showed new pages after I marked them as reviewed. I saw other patrollers with entries in both but mine were one-sided for some reason.

I took a deeper look at your curation vs. patrol logs and saw that you had entries for the same article in both. But it wasn't until I looked at some examples of the individual pages where this was the case that I finally figured out the difference. Today I picked an article to review that had a date in the queue of February 2020 (Askoll) and the same old behavior occurred again upon marking it - one entry in the curation log but none in the patrol log. I then noticed that your entries were for pages that were actually at the recent side of the queue with creation dates in June. So I went to that side of the queue and picked out a very new article from the last 24 hours (Ryser's conjecture). Upon clicking the mark as reviewed button, I finally got an entry in my patrol log.

So it seems that the newness of the page has something to do with whether a patrol log entry gets generated. Would you happen to know if this is intentional or possibly a bug in the toolbar? Paradoxsociety 04:44, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Paradoxsociety, this is intentional based on patrols needing to happen for all new pages (theoretically) while reviews only happen for certain mainspace pages. You'll see that in my curation log unreviews are also noted. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 17:03, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Bearcat "asked"

I don't argue with "opposes", but I felt the need to explain. I wanted to write "admonished" but thought it too strong. And of course it's what's already been stated by the community. It expresses (what I think is) the rough consensus and codifies it in a proposal. Sorry, just overcome by OCD. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 08:37, 16 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Deepfriedokra, if bearcat won't acknowledge the feedback then I think admonish is closer to where we need to end than asked. I still hope we don't get there but also understand the desire to move that discussion towards closure. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 12:18, 16 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the EBCDIC transwiki

Hi Barkeep49, performing the transwiki of all those pages yourself is above and beyond for a closing admin. Thank you for doing this. --{{u|Mark viking}} {Talk} 21:15, 16 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Mark viking, well in fairness JackPotte did the import. I also owe a big thanks to Xover who helped make things happen when I first posted about this at Wikisource. Being able to implement closes is the expectation at AfD and so while this was a complicated one when I decided to close it I felt responsible for making sure it happened. Thanks for taking the time to write this, Barkeep49 (talk) 21:40, 16 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Barkeep49

Hope you are fine, You are humbly requested to please look at my contributions and logs for Newpage patroller rights on a trial basis(either for one week or two) as there is a huge backlog especially in WikiProject Bangladesh and Pakistan, hope you will consider me as a nurturing editor to reduce the backlog, as I may be fluent in Bengali, Hindi, Marathi and Urdu, I may help to reduce the backlog, looking forward for your positive reply, lots of loveMajun e Baqi (talk) 02:37, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Majun e Baqi, thanks for your interest. People asking for this user right are best served by asking for it at WP:PERM/NPR. An administrator (perhaps me) will respond within a few days. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 02:39, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

will you kindly provide me certain prediction, as it is better to be declined on talk page rather to be declined on that particular page, It seems humiliating, kindly give the rough idea, whether I will get it or not, looking forward for your positive reply, lots of loveMajun e Baqi (talk) 02:42, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Kindly, inform me when you will finish analysing the contributions and logsMajun e Baqi (talk) 05:07, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for inserting the comment to reviewers. The present version of the draft appeared to be essentially the same as the article that you deleted, so that the present version of the draft should not even be considered for acceptance. I'm satisfied and will leave the draft alone. Maybe it will go away in January. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:47, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]