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There's a whole lot of stuff in here that is or should be in [[Statehood movement in Puerto Rico]] or maybe in [[Proposed political status for Puerto Rico]], both of which are linked at the beginning of the section (and I don't quite understand why there are two articles for that either.) My tendency would be to excise pretty much everything from this article in favor of the "main article" and "see also" sections. [[User:Jpgordon|--jpgordon]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Jpgordon|𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇 ]]</small></sup> 19:23, 26 March 2020 (UTC) |
There's a whole lot of stuff in here that is or should be in [[Statehood movement in Puerto Rico]] or maybe in [[Proposed political status for Puerto Rico]], both of which are linked at the beginning of the section (and I don't quite understand why there are two articles for that either.) My tendency would be to excise pretty much everything from this article in favor of the "main article" and "see also" sections. [[User:Jpgordon|--jpgordon]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Jpgordon|𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇 ]]</small></sup> 19:23, 26 March 2020 (UTC) |
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== Statehood for global US citizens == |
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When you move out of your current state, you acquire new representatives (2 Senators and 1 House Rep.) This is always true until you move out of the country. Then you keep your past state Representatives. |
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If we live in Wisconsin, then we follow Wisconsin laws. California, California Laws. But South Korea? We don't follow some global standard. we follow a hodgepodge of different state laws. You can't even talk to your friends for advice because they live in different states and follow different laws. |
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There should be a lot more talk of standardizing registration, voting, and basic needs of American citizens from distinct representatives rather than from my old local representatives that don't think about my needs on a daily or weekly basis. This could be a "virtual" State that has 2 Senators and any number of representatives appropriate |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_diaspora |
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[[User:Ciscorucinski|Ciscorucinski]] ([[User talk:Ciscorucinski|talk]]) 19:24, 18 July 2020 (UTC) |
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Guam
There is a very strong pro-statehood movement in Guam, and the territory's governor is attempting to organize a referendum there. This article previously contained a small amount of information on the prospect of Guamian statehood, but a user removed it. Given that its probably the most likely of the territories to choose statehood, it definately deserves a section here.— Preceding unsigned comment added by XavierGreen (talk • contribs) 17:00, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
- OK, I researched this and added a section about Guam. It might need some fine-tuning. Will look at it again in a couple of hours. Peter K Burian (talk) 17:33, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
- @XavierGreen The new section on Guam is done now; I expanded it, revised it and added the sub section about the United Nations' support for the island's plans. (I also updated the Guam article which had no recent information on this topic.) Peter K Burian (talk) 22:24, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
- @Peter K Burian Great work!XavierGreen (talk) 14:49, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
- @XavierGreen The new section on Guam is done now; I expanded it, revised it and added the sub section about the United Nations' support for the island's plans. (I also updated the Guam article which had no recent information on this topic.) Peter K Burian (talk) 22:24, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
UK section
I was surprised by the lack of mention of the UK so did some digging through the talk archives. Seems there was a debate in 2007 around sources and whether the section was appropriate, but no mention of plans to remove. Is there something I'm missing? I feel that the UK is conspicuous by its absence. Username 231241 (talk) 09:41, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
Partion Section
I noticed the partition section functions more of as a bulleted list, whereas the other sections all use subheaders for different places. I'm thinking of moving the state partition movements to subheaders, so that they can be better expanded upon. What do you think? ForksForks (talk) 20:11, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
- I am a definite Maybe on this. I agree in theory, but there will be an awful lot of one-line subsections. I recognize your suggestion that this would make them more expanded upon, but if they're to be more expanded upon, the better spot for that is List of U.S. state partition proposals. In fact, maybe it's best to just highlight a small number of the more prominent ones (moving any deleted text to the list article), and let the {{main}} template guide the reader to the list article. TJRC (talk) 22:26, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
Puerto Rico
There's a whole lot of stuff in here that is or should be in Statehood movement in Puerto Rico or maybe in Proposed political status for Puerto Rico, both of which are linked at the beginning of the section (and I don't quite understand why there are two articles for that either.) My tendency would be to excise pretty much everything from this article in favor of the "main article" and "see also" sections. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇 19:23, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
Statehood for global US citizens
When you move out of your current state, you acquire new representatives (2 Senators and 1 House Rep.) This is always true until you move out of the country. Then you keep your past state Representatives.
If we live in Wisconsin, then we follow Wisconsin laws. California, California Laws. But South Korea? We don't follow some global standard. we follow a hodgepodge of different state laws. You can't even talk to your friends for advice because they live in different states and follow different laws.
There should be a lot more talk of standardizing registration, voting, and basic needs of American citizens from distinct representatives rather than from my old local representatives that don't think about my needs on a daily or weekly basis. This could be a "virtual" State that has 2 Senators and any number of representatives appropriate
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_diaspora Ciscorucinski (talk) 19:24, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
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