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1. Why did you delete my page when I hadn't finished writing it?
- Answer: Don't create new articles unless you are sure they meet wikipedia's criteria, particularly notability and verifiability. If you want to practice, there is the sandbox facility and Wikipedia:Articles for creation where you can get a second opinion from a more experienced contributor. And if you really can't help yourself, use {{underconstruction}} so other people will know you are still working on it.
2. Why did you delete my page for advertising? I wasn't trying to advertise!
- Answer: Read Wikipedia:NPOV for guidance on how to word an article so that it doesn't sound like an advertisement.
3. Why did you delete my page for advertising? It was about a non-profit organisation!
- Answer: Non-profit organisations advertise all the time - it's still promotion and the rule applies to them just as it does to commercial bodies. See no 2 above.
4. Why did you delete my article without warning?
- Answer: Because you are not entitled to a warning if you don't follow the guidelines. See no 1 above.
5. Why didn't you do a google search and find references for my article and put them in for me instead of just deleting it?
- Answer: Because I don't have time to do the boring bits for you. I have enough boring bits of my own to work on, thank you.
6. You have a very interesting view of neutrality. The authors you give credence to have a definite point of view and you discount those that disagree.
- Answer: There is of course no answer because this is not a question. It's a snide comment added by someone who doesn't understand the NPOV rule. Possibly a Ricardian revisionist.
And please SIGN YOUR POSTS, otherwise I don't know who is asking me the question!
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Speedy Deletion: Working Bikes
Can I get a copy/access to the page you deleted. It contains no copyrighted material and I would like to have a record of it.
Thank you, User: DHaddonPearson Dhaddonpearson (talk) 03:58, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
YOU --- Thanks for your message. I don't normally restore promotional content. To help me decide, could you let me know whether there is a conflict of interest, as described in my message above? Deb (talk) 09:47, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
I am not asking you to restore it, I am wanting to get access to the page so that I can make a copy of it. Thank you Dhaddonpearson (talk) 10:29, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
Speedy Deletion: Qooliv Overseas
Hey Deb,
Hope you're doing great!
I've been trying to update a wikipedia page, but it has been deleted twice on the accounts of promotional activity. Can you kindly help me understand this, as I was not trying to promote anything, intentionally.
Also, please do let me know if it possible to keep the page after removing whatever you think is wrong there?
Thanks! Ddevh — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ddevhsharrma (talk • contribs) 10:41, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
Speedy Deletion: Sam Adeyemi
Dear Deb,
Hatchens advised me to contact you on the above subject, because you actually executed the page deletion. I believe the page Sam Adeyemi meets Wikipedia's notability and verifiability requirements, and that the subject deserves a Wikipedia page, for these reasons:
1. He is one of the most notable citizens of Nigeria. 2. He is an author with many published works. 3. He is an international motivational speaker. 4. He is the founder and pastor of one of the most prominent Nigerian megachurches. 5. Many of his less prominent contemporaries already have Wikipedia pages. 6. Many sources were cited for the article, and many more are available. 7. I believe the Sam Adeyemi page deserves improvement, rather than deletion.
I was doing some research and was quite astounded to find no Wikipedia page on him, hence my decision to work on creating the page. Everything I wrote was based on publicly available information, from many sources. Apart the cited sources, many any others are available and can be provided. I am not connected with the subject in any way, and have no reason whatsoever to promote him or his ministry.
I believe having a Wikipedia page on the subject would be of encyclopedic value, and do hereby request re-creation of the page. Thank you. ProfParochus (talk) 04:39, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- ProfParochus To begin with, you should be aware that the article was nominated and deleted for being promotional, not for reasons of notability. Even in your "justification" for what you wrote, you have strayed into promotional wording.
- What evidence can you show for this person being "one of the most notable citizens of Nigeria"?
- There are many, many people who have "many published works" and are not the subject of Wikipedia articles. The quality and significance of those works is far more relevant than the quantity. Self-published works like Adeyemi's don't count towards notability.
- Motivational speakers are two a penny.
- Being pastor of a church you founded yourself is not evidence of notability. What evidence is there that this church is "one of the most prominent" in Nigeria?
- "Other stuff exists" is not an argument.
- Most of the sources were duplicated, and several were primary sources.
- You are entitled to your opinion. In fact, an article on this subject existed previously and was deleted by consensus, after a discussion. Some of those contributing felt that the subject "scraped by" the notability criteria. However, your article did not improve on the original, and was written in a fawning, laudatory manner. Phrases like "with the aim of helping people to realize their life's purpose by impartation of requisite knowledge to discover, develop, release and maximize their hidden potentials" and "with the vision to raise exceptional leaders and managers to transform the world" are not encyclopaedic and don't belong in Wikipedia.
Having read my responses, I hope you understand why the article you wrote was unacceptable. If you care to try again from scratch, please use draft space. Deb (talk) 08:16, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- Deb Many thanks for taking the time to clearly explain what was unacceptable in the article's style and substance. I do understood, and have now accordingly written another draft in my sandbox. Please take a look and give your opinion about it.ProfParochus (talk) 14:46, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Barnstar of Diligence | |
I hereby award you this barnstar because of your tireless work in chronological articles, adding refs and bringing them closer to compliance with WP:V. I do a little reverting, but you're doing the heavy lifting here! Thanks!!! Elizium23 (talk) 20:00, 18 January 2021 (UTC) |
Hey Mr. Deb I Realize That You Have Deleted My Article Can You Please Tell Me Why It Was Deleted So It Want Happened Again Please I Just Wanted To Make Articles... From The Ultimate Station — Preceding unsigned comment added by The Ultimate Station (talk • contribs) 13:01, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
speedy deletion
I am writing to ask for your help in understanding why the article I submitted on Silicon Sensing was deleted. It is not marketing content. I am not being paid to submit this. Its very basic factual information. I am unsure how to sort this out and would appreciate advice? Thanks PHeleneCox (talk) 14:31, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for your reply. I'm not sure why I need to explain why I am trying again as long as the content is factual? However so you understand, last year I failed to upload a piece on this company - which is local to me. I was quite frustrated so set this to one side. I have some time now so thought I would try to get to grips with this again. If I understand correctly I need to link the content to third party verifiable sources? — Preceding unsigned comment added by PHeleneCox (talk • contribs) 14:52, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
I very rarely write on Wikipedia and have never received any compensation or had any other benefit from it - not even for the recently deleted article about . The article is an almost verbatim translation from the German Wikipedia, where it has never been objected to. The software has relevance - thousands of accountants work with it every day, also in the USA. I don't find it overdone in promotional language, it has many references. How can I improve it so that it is accepted? Maybe remove the links to the xsuite website?Alex Kowalski (talk) 20:03, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for deletion of my user page. Goodbye Lakshmikanta Manna (talk) 15:02, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
Question
Happy New Year @Deb:. This referenced entry was deleted early in December 2020: "Some people offered this scholarship have not accepted it, including Alimuddin Zumla, who declined the scholarship as a teenager to study medicine.[1]" What is your advice regarding including it?
Please see: The deletion was made by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_sockpuppets_of_ALL2ALLA
Ear-phone (talk) 01:07, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
References
- Thank you for your deep dive and feedback @Deb:. The edit was indeed not made by a sock, but by @Stevenbradley2020: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rhodes_Scholarship&type=revision&diff=992571575&oldid=991761423.
- I have now found the undergraduate reference you are referring to[1]
- Given that one can start undergraduate studies as a teenager and also that one can apply for the scholarship before completing undergraduate studies https://www.rhodeshouse.ox.ac.uk/media/45482/information-for-candidates-zambia.pdf the references citing him declining the Rhodes offer, at that stage of his life, are all consistent.
- Would this be ok? "Some offered this scholarship have declined it, including Alimuddin Zumla.[1][2]" Ear-phone (talk) 16:18, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
References
- ^ a b &Na; (May 2011). "Editorial introduction:". Current Opinion in Pulmonary Medicine. 17 (3): vii–viii. doi:10.1097/MCP.0b013e32834619c2. ISSN 1070-5287.
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: CS1 maint: extra punctuation (link) CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link) - ^ Kirby, Tony (April 2013). "Alimuddin Zumla: infectious diseases guru and survivor". The Lancet Infectious Diseases. 13 (4): 301. doi:10.1016/S1473-3099(13)70045-8.
1924
Thank you for your interest in the Year pages. You have done a lot of useful work. I see that you have reverted my edit on Mahlon Pitney, as not being sufficiently internationally notable. It's a coherent viewpoint and have no problem with it: but you should be aware that all I was doing was making the entry consistent with the entry that he has in Births (in 1858). So, I think that you should delete that entry, or at least move it to the US section of Year in Topic if you think it should more appropriately be there. More or less all of the edits that I make to historic Deaths pages are where the subject already has an entry in Births. Rcb1 (talk) 14:11, 27 January 2021 (UTC)rcb1
- I agree, it should come out of 1858. I'll see to that. Deb (talk) 14:17, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
February 2021 at Women in Red
Women in Red | February 2021, Volume 7, Issue 2, Numbers 184, 186, 188, 189, 190, 191
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Stop undoing my changes
Hello buddy, stop undoing my changes .. Thank you .. This page will be monitored by me.. I'm paid to do so by by company.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bgs job (talk • contribs) 17:10, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
- Paid not to read the guidelines? Never mind, it won't happen again. Deb (talk) 18:56, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
2020
Hi! Thank you for your explanation for the revert on the year article. I was meaning to ask if there's a guideline, essay or discussion regarding the notability criteria used in year articles that I could use as a guide in the future. Many thanks in advance! --NoonIcarus (talk) 01:12, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
Conflict of interest
Hi Deb. Could you please advise on how I should disclose my conflict of interest? I believed (wrongly, clearly) that I had done this as instructed in the guidelines by disclosing it on my user page. Thank you for your help Ihearttech (talk) 15:13, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you so much for the explanation and for sharing the correct guidelines, I had not realised I had to use the template instead of a written declaration. I really appreciate the help. Ihearttech (talk) 17:43, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – February 2021
News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2021).
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- The standard discretionary sanctions authorized for American Politics were amended by motion to cover
post-1992 politics of United States and closely related people
, replacing the 1932 cutoff.
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- Wikipedia has now been around for 20 years, and recently saw its billionth edit!
Featured Article Review for The Country Wife
I have nominated The Country Wife for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. -- Beland (talk) 20:05, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
Bonsai Empire
Why was the article Bonsai Empire deleted? "Reads like an ad"? Most of the visitors to Bonsai Empire do not purchase anything -- they go for information, mostly free. The quality videos now available are just an added feature of this educational site. Please reconsider.RJBaran (talk) 15:14, 3 February 2021 (UTC)RJBaran
- You seem to be suggesting that a website can't be advertised, whilst at the same point admitting that things are sold through the website or as a result of its recommendations. You've misunderstood the meaning of "advertising". Deb (talk) 15:16, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
How can any commercial site then have a Wikipedia article? BTW, while I have contributed a couple of articles to Bonsai Empire over the years, I have never received any renummeration from them. I have had to purchase the ebooks my articles were used in. I am a bonsai historian first published in 1991 -- pre-Internet -- and I have written about all aspects of the topic of bonsai. I have contributed to a number of bonsai-related articles on Wikipedia. RJBaran (talk) 15:22, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- It's possible to write an article about a commercial website neutrally, without advertising it - see Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. If you aren't able to do that, we can't include it. Deb (talk) 15:25, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
Can I please get a copy of the deleted article to make necessary changes to -- or do I have to start from scratch? Not all of the article was "advertising".RJBaran (talk) 01:22, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
Deletion of Draft page: Virgil Riaan Prins
Good day, I trust you are well.
I am contacting you regarding deletion of one of my drafts. I would have hoped that before deletion I would have received a chance to change those phrases that present to be promotional as you have stated.
In the future, please be so kind as to notify a user of such assumed points.
Regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maudrey702 (talk • contribs) 13:24, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- I would have hoped that before editing you would have read the guidelines and made some effort to abide by them. You won't be getting any special favours from me. Deb (talk) 13:26, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
deleted page
hi, you recently deleted an article I was working on. it was my first article and I had spent many many hours creating it. I understood i still had work to do on it and perhaps went about it in not the best way. I am new to wikipedia and very much learning. I understand why it was deleted but would like to keep working on it to make it better and try again. also I found so many references and don't want to lose the many hours it took to find them. is there a way to please restore the page just as a draft so that I can work on it again and make the changes before submitting it again. please let me know if I can have access to it to make it better and to not lose all that work. many thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Misletoe20 (talk • contribs) 19:48, 5 February 2021 (UTC) Misletoe20, can you tell me what your connection is with the subject of the article? What made you choose this as your first Wikipedia edit? Deb (talk) 09:14, 6 February 2021 (UTC) yes I heard Justin Kingsley, the subject, talk twice at a conference in montreal and found him extremely interesting. when I was thinking what to write for my first article I was doing some research and noticed he didn't have a wikipedia page. I thought it would be a really good page to make - challenging but interesting. honestly I didn't realise how long and difficult it would be but I want to see it through after all the hours of work I've put into it — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.93.211.131 (talk) 22:35, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Replied on your talk page. Deb (talk) 08:29, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
thank you, I replied to your comment on my talk page Misletoe20 (talk) 17:11, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
I replied to your comment on my talk page regarding this article. please can you allow me to have access to this article again as a draft so I can work on it and improve it and so that I don't lose all of the many hours of work it took me to compile. please, thank you Misletoe20 (talk) 16:33, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
hii Deb
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deniz_Unay Please could you help me with this article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability#Reliable_sources Say here Editors may also use material from reliable non-academic sources, particularly if it appears in respected mainstream publications. Other reliable sources include:
University-level textbooks Books published by respected publishing houses Magazines Mainstream newspapers
Ok let's take a look at my resources accordingly 1) file: /// Users / denizunay / Downloads / 6101-14047-1-PB% 20 (8) .pdf Europine Science Peer-reviewed scientific journal published in Europe The article is published by citing his article published by Anadolu Agency. 2) http://revistaestilosdeaprendizaje.com/article/download/2171/3207/ Scientific Paper Study for the European Observatory Committee of Experts Peer-reviewed scientific journal published in Europe The article is published by citing his article published by Anadolu Agency. 3) https://www.trt.net.tr/vizyondergisi/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/mart-2019.pdf State television TRT in Turkey belongs to "TRT Vision" magazine cover his "Game Not Cyberbullying" Cover the warning did. This news operation in the Republic of Turkey News on page 30 was given to the views of the Minister of Education and Minister of Transport. 4) Among my sources were links of organizations that broadcast Mainstream Regularly. Anadolu Agency Takes Jazerá Hurriyet, Milliyet bianet.org independent Turkish Haberturk tribune.co inside and outside of Turkey, such as many reliable sources https://mubasher.aljazeera.net/news/politics/2020/4/12/%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%88%D9%85%D8 % A7% D8% AA-% D8% A7% D9 84% D9 85% D8% B6% D9 84% D9 84% D8% A9-% D9 81% D9% 8A% D8% B1% D9 88% D8% B3-% D8% A3% D9 83% D8% AB% D8% B1-% D8% A7% D9% 86% D8% AA% D8% B4% D8% A7% D8% B1% D8 A7 http://tribune.com.pk/story/2208176/8-connection-5g-COVID-19 5) He also has Turkish and English CV's of his own and enough information about himself and his work. Republic of Turkey Ministry of National Education, and I offer resources from other official institutions 6) Erasmus Program Training I presented as a source, https://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/tech-addiction-poses-mental-physical-threats-expert-150261/ In addition, the Russian National Press has given his views on the Social Media Law Regulation in Russia after the International Conference he attended. https://www.oprf.ru/press/news/2617/newsitem/56156 https://www.gazeta.ru/tech/2020/12/10_a_13394533.shtml 7) One of his articles translated into Vietnamese and published in the entire Vietnamese national press https://ictnews.vietnamnet.vn/cuoc-song-so/tong-thong-trump-mang-xa-hoi-dang-thao-tung-tu -do-ngon-luan-cua-cong-chung-253844.html 8) Self-written and published Children's storybook translated into Turkish and English He wrote a book called Muzip Yaman telling about technology addiction for primary and secondary school children, and it was translated into English with the name Willy Yaman. More resources from all the details are available on Google All of the resources I have provided to date meet all the criteria. He is an author, an educator, his book has been published. Please help me before deleting this article — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emremer (talk • contribs) 15:23, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
MCI
Hi Deb. Looks like you deleted the Manchester China Institute wiki page I created. Did you see my reply to your query? MCI is an academic non-profit and does not engage in promotion. Instead, it serves Northwest England, an oft ignored region. I am happy do to whatever you require to improve the encyclopaedic content of the entry. cheers, PetePetergries88 (talk) 13:52, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
- Petergries88 Yes, I did see your comments contesting deletion. Nearly all non-profits promote themselves by any means they can, so it would be surprising if this one didn't. In your case, I think you have an undeclared conflict of interest which needs to be addressed before we go any further. It also looks like you have contributed to an article about yourself and have added numerous promotional links. Have you read the Wikipedia guidelines? I would suggest you do so before you re-draft the article. Deb (talk) 14:00, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
AmandaMediati
Can user:AmandaMediati please be blocked ASAP. CLCStudent (talk) 15:40, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
Planning Wikimedia Community User Group Kenya
Please restore Planning Wikimedia Community User Group Kenya and move it to either the Wikipedia: namespace or the creator's user-space. Note that its creator has a "new user" template on their user page. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:00, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
Edd Gould
Hi Deb, I placed Edd Gould in 1988 because he was originally put into 1987 which is the incorrect birthyear. I add a reference now. Kingzwest (talk)
2021 in the UK
Not sure if you edit much on the 2021 in the United Kingdom page, but since you're from the UK I thought I'd let you know that earlier today I went on and updated the Deaths section to include missing deaths of people from England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland - adding people who were up until then missing from that page but were in the Deaths in January 2021 page, among others. Since that opened up more space for images of prominent recently deceased Brits, I went ahead and included many as well, rather than just one, oversized image like it was previously. I updated the overall style and format to bring it in line with the main 2021 page (and several other Year in Topic pages), such as using dates of birth instead of age. It took several hours to complete, only for another user to carpet remove everything I did shortly after, claiming that there was over-link (which if so, then.... why would he not do the same to other pages, including the main 2021 page?). If you are able to, it would be amazing if you were able to help back me up on that page in case attempts were made to mass revert again, and help consolidate the changes made to update the page. --Thescrubbythug (talk) 09:34, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
HOW TO SECURE A WIKI PAGE
Hello Deb,
This is a response to your reply on the above subject "Only administrators can carry out page protection"
Does this mean that the owner of the page cannot manually protect the page and will have to request for protection?
Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JohndoeACCESS (talk • contribs) 12:54, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
- Yes. And you have to have a very good reason. Deb (talk) 13:01, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
DP Live
Hi, Deb, I saw what you did here, thanks for that! I think we've had (more than) enough of this, so I've started Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/DPLIVE202; I mentioned you there, but I'm never sure how well the ping thing works from those pages. Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 18:47, 10 February 2021 (UTC) Justlettersandnumbers - Yes, it does work. Deb (talk) 18:48, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
Thought
Hi Deb, given their comment above yours here, I wonder whether Ektopia might not need to go the same way as Here for the snacks? --Jack Frost (talk) 09:06, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
My Page got Deleted, need your Assistance
Hi Deb, I was working on my first Wikipedia page, where I was creating a profile for my client, he is a football player from Thailand and he don't have any page yet. This was the first time for me and I know what mistake I made, I added his personal social profiles and website on the page and that leads me to the advertising violation. That was my first time and unwillingly I made this mistake. I want to make changes on the content and want to publish the page again as it was really a tough task creating a Wikipedia page. Or assist me If I am going wrong somewhere else too. Thanks in advance. - Shivani — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iamartjr (talk • contribs) 10:51, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
2401:4900:52B4:4569:8DA2:7EA:FC2E:D539
Can user:2401:4900:52B4:4569:8DA2:7EA:FC2E:D539 please be blocked ASAP for disruptive editing. CLCStudent (talk) 12:24, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
- Seldom have I seen a more deserving case! Deb (talk) 12:28, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
Restoration of GeorgeNotFound (redirect)
Hi there! I noticed that you deleted the GeorgeNotFound page, which was a redirect to Dream (YouTuber). Unless the redirect had been edited without me noticing, the page was definitely pointing to an existing page. It was even cited in this Redirects for creation discussion, which eventually led to another redirect being created which targeted the same page as the deleted redirect. I did consider that you might have accidentally deleted the redirect since it had been linking (but not redirecting) to the deleted draft, Draft:GeorgeNotFound, as the redirect had the {{R with possibilities}} template with it. Because of that, and since the redirect was a related topic to the target page, would it be alright to restore the deleted redirect? It would have been impossible that the redirect pointed to the draft in the first place, as article namespace redirects are never supposed to point to drafts. Many thanks and have a nice day! Chlod (say hi!) 09:17, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
- Chlod, you're right. I didn't look carefully enough at that. Having said that, I don't see much justification for the redirect, since they are not the same person. Had the draft been approved, it would have gone into that space in any case. What am I missing? Deb (talk) 09:38, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
- I'm fairly sure that redirects are allowed to point to related topics (or specifically "
Sub-topics or other topics which are described or listed within a wider article.
"), given that the target discusses a related topic — which is why the {{R to related topic}} template exists, and which is why the redirect created in the AFC (which is also a person) was permitted. The relation of the target page to the redirect is also established (or at least it can be since there are sources[1][2] which can establish such a relation). As such, I don't see much reason on why the redirect should have been deleted. Chlod (say hi!) 09:56, 13 February 2021 (UTC) - Chlod It only happened because the delete process for the draft pointed me to the "article", which I saw was a redirect, but didn't look closely enough at what it was redirecting to. So yes, the cancellation was for an incorrect reason. But no other articles link to the title, so where is its value as a redirect? Deb (talk) 10:13, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
- Per WP:R#KEEP, redirects are usually preserved in order to aid future editors when writing articles and would
[make] the creation of duplicate articles less likely
. Under that same point, it discusses thatredirects with no incoming links are not candidates for deletion
. Prior to deletion, the redirect had the {{R with possibilities}} template – an indication that an article could be created in the future. Although the draft for the article was deleted, it wasn't deleted due to a lack of notability, but due to G11 (promotional content), which means that the subject still has a possibility of creation. Considering that the subject is likely to be notable some time in the future (since they are closely related to a notable subject, and is receiving media attention themselves), keeping the redirect would be beneficial for links in future articles on related topics (whenever they may be created) or for the promotion of the creation of an article, essentially graduating the redirect into a fully-fledged article. Even if the redirect didn't have incoming internal links, it could have still been linked to on other pages or could have been searched for (e.g. through https://wikipedia.org, which resolves redirects). For those reasons, its value as a redirect might not be visible now, but may be in the long-term. Chlod (say hi!) 10:35, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
- Per WP:R#KEEP, redirects are usually preserved in order to aid future editors when writing articles and would
- I'm fairly sure that redirects are allowed to point to related topics (or specifically "
References
- ^ Asarch, Steven. "Minecraft's top streamers are taking over the internet with their exclusive roleplaying server called Dream SMP". Insider. Retrieved 2021-02-13. (per WP:BI, not a deprecated source, although there is no consensus on its verifiability)
- ^ Livingston, Christopher (2020-01-13). "Watch this Minecraft player get shocked by a dog collar whenever he takes damage". PC Gamer. Retrieved 2021-02-13.
Something odd
Please compare this which you deleted with this which seems to be an autobiography about a person with the same name. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 18:34, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
2009 Damallsvenskan
Hi, I got a message saying that a few years ago you moved the page 2009 Damallsvenskan to Draft:2009 Damallsvenskan. I could not see this page, so I drafted a new version, using the Swedish Football Association's site as source: Draft:2009 Damallsvenskan. Is it possible to merge the 2 versions?
I got to work on this page because I have a red link to it on a page I'm working on, Manon Melis, which is currently at WP:GAN. Ideally I woul like to remove the red link. Thanks, Edwininlondon (talk) 22:36, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
Susman orange
Can user:Susman orange please be blocked ASAP for vandalism? CLCStudent (talk) 14:23, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
TPA
Hi Deb. Per these edits, you might want to revoke talk page access for Isandatasystems, whom you blocked earlier. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 18:46, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, done. Deb (talk) 18:49, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
Clayton Howe's Entertainmentx
Deb,
Clayton Howe's Entertainmentx is a podcast that has been around for over three years. He has had, on his show, many guests that do in fact have their own wikipedia pages. I created the page "Clayton Howe's Entertainmentx" has a reference for those interested in continuing their education and connecting the dots of existing wikipedia pages regarding the show. I am confused as to why this page was "Speedy deleted" when "The Joe Rogan" podcast and Anna faris "unqualified" podcast both have pages similar to "Clayton Howe's Entertainmentx" which was deleted. Additionally, I would like to recover my hard work on the page. Please advise.
Thank you 21:35, 16 February 2021 (UTC)Nicolelong (talk) Nicolelong
Deletion: Vidya Rattan Sharma
Dear Deb,
Hope you are doing great. This is regarding the deletion of page Vidya Rattan Sharma. I believe the page meets Wikipedia's notability and verifiability requirements, and that the subject deserves a Wikipedia page. The article was tagged for deletion for two reasons, at first it read more like an advertisement and secondly, it seemed like a resume.
I have redrafted the article & before publishing it, I would like to take your suggestion on it. Please check the draft here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Vidya_Rattan_Sharma
I believe having a Wikipedia page on the subject would be of encyclopedic value and do hereby request re-creation of the page. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rohitnwi (talk • contribs) 06:59, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- I can't see any improvement on the previous version. What is your connection with the subject of the article? Deb (talk) 12:09, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- I am nowhere connected to the person. However, I use to improve & create articles related to the industry. Some changes that I have done are removing the content that looked promotional & adding references to high authority independent news sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rohitnwi (talk • contribs) 06:02, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
- I've looked at this again. Here are some examples of where you have gone wrong:
- "He did his schooling diploma from Haryana and completed his Mechanical Engineering and MBA from the University of London." The reference you quoted does not mention where he did his MBA or where his school was.
- "He was always a scholar in studies and was also the captain of Hockey team in his school and university in India." This is puffery; it's not relevant to the article and is not referenced.
- In future, will you please remember to sign your posts? Deb (talk) 09:15, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
- I've looked at this again. Here are some examples of where you have gone wrong:
DbVisualizer
Hi Deb,
I wrote an article here, based on the Swedish article about Dbvisualizer. You flagged it as advertisement so I would just like some pointers on what to change to make it less so because that was never my intention. I love IT and technology and I do wanna point out what made something be where it is today but of course, it shouldn't be a "selling" article. I don't want that either.
Thank you in advance!
Best regards Magnus — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hagelin-Linder (talk • contribs) 13:11, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
- Spent a while looking for the "article" - turns out it was just a draft. The original article was deleted twice before I even saw it. The fact that an article exists in another Wikipedia doesn't, of course, mean that it is going to be automatically accepted here. I'm willing to restore the draft, on condition that you can assume me you have no outside connection with the subject of the article. Deb (talk) 12:08, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
Request for some edits on Boadi page
Please can I kindly contact you via mail on some edits concerning the Boadi page HuahiRoyals (talk) 08:37, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- No. Please use the talk page. Deb (talk) 09:15, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
Block
Hi Deb. I reported Ds Abhishek to AIV as a promotion-only account. However, a bot removed my report as stale a few hours later... didn't know that was being done now. Anyway, do you think this user deserves a block for their 3x userpage spamming? --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 22:22, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
- Oops, forgot the username above... added it. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 15:20, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
- Drm310 - On the surface, yes. Sorry, for some reason I didn't see this message earlier. Please let me know if they come back. Deb (talk) 15:23, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
19:42, 20 February 2021 Deb talk contribs deleted page Arielle Kayabaga
I really don't get this, how can one person make a decision to delete an article? And why is there no time to discuss the issue (s)? There are many articles about politicians and I followed a template and style used by an existing published one. I have used, what seems to me, to be neutral language. I have provided references from many different sources. I have done research on the person. The city of London is approaching 500,000 people so it seems a councillor here may have some importance. KenDavison3 (talk) 23:51, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
- KenDavison3 In response to your questions:
- Only administrators can delete an article, and we do so in accordance with the Wikipedia guidelines.
- Had you not moved the article out of draft without waiting for a review, you would have received constructive comments from more experienced contributors as to was wrong with it.
- Please read the criteria for inclusion of local politicians. Most of your references were to primary sources.
- You are of course free to request a deletion review, or to start again from scratch, but I would recommend you do so in draft space. Deb (talk) 10:43, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
178.79.32.13
Can user:178.79.32.13 and user:103.225.59.144 please be blocked ASAP for vandalism? CLCStudent (talk) 15:27, 21 February 2021 (UTC)