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Undiscussed change from Ganges to Ganga
Someone has recently changed the article to use Ganga as the main name. I could not simply revert due to many intervening edits. I have made a start at fixing this, but do not have enough time to finish it right now. I am asking for other editors to continue the corrections, starting with the History section. --Khajidha (talk) 16:43, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
- I think I have gotten this taken care of now. I left direct references to the goddess, uses of "ganga" as a component of larger names, and direct quotations and such alone. --Khajidha (talk) 14:41, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
I have started updating the name to “Ganga” , irrespective whether references to any historic article or publishing “Ganges” is not the correct name of the river. Someone in past stating an incorrect name/pronunciation doesn’t mean we have to stick with it. KShukal (talk) 13:32, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
Same applies to “Shiv” (not “Shiva”), “Pandav” (not “Pandava”), “Dharm” (not “Dharma”), “Karm” (not “Karma”) and many more such misspelled Sanskrit words. Appreciate if any user or Wikipedia provide assistance in cleaning these rather long standing misspelling which will eventually correct the mispronunciations. KShukal (talk) 13:38, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
Renaming of the page to "Ganga" with "Ganges" redirecting to it
The name "Ganges" is the Hellenic (Ancient Greek) version of the word Ganga
It is a corruption of the actual name of the river which is "Ganga".
Hence I propose that this Wiki article should be named "Ganga" and "Ganges" should redirect to it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pskale (talk • contribs) 15:23, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
- The process for this is at Wikipedia:Requested moves#Requesting a single page move. Please bear in mind the issue of WP:CommonName. Toddy1 (talk) 15:34, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
I agree and support thIs request. KShukal (talk) 13:40, 14 July 2020 (UTC) Ganges is very rarely used by anyone in India including English media. It is mostly used by the western news outlets. Almost entire country calls the river Ganga. Why does Wikipedia use a corrupt name?
Name of the article
Can anyone tell me why "Ganga" is being called "Gan jeez" here? Why is actual name being distorted? LearnIndology (talk) 19:56, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
- see above: "A river by any other name: Ganga/Ganges and the postcolonial politics of knowledge on Wikipedia" https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/1369118X.2017.1293709 AugusteBlanqui (talk) 13:34, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
Requested move 20 October 2020
- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: Closed, filed by blocked user. If there's a desire to re-propose this move, it should come from a user in good standing. SnowFire (talk) 16:21, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
Ganges → Ganga – - The term "Ganges" is an outdated and antiquated term invented by foreign British invaders to diminish Indian Culture with their own English.
- The name "Ganga" dates back thousands and thousands of years to ancient Vedic times, and is the historical name of the river - The name Ganga also holds religious sentiment to Hindus, and the incorrect name "Ganges" insults that faith - As society continues to develop, more people are shunning colonial names in favor of more traditional names emphasizing their, and not their oppressors culture; ie. Rhodesia --> Zimbabwe, Burma --> Myanmar, and India's own Bombay --> Mumbai - Ganga is the official name for the river in India, as referenced by India's National Government - Indians already is, and the rest of the world is coming around to knowing the sacred river by its original name SaffronArrow5 (talk) 23:22, 20 October 2020 (UTC) - Yes, some newspapers and old sources in India still call the Ganga "Ganges" but there are always people who are wrong in the world — Preceding unsigned comment added by SaffronArrow5 (talk • contribs) 00:02, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
- SaffronArrow5 is an indefinitely blocked sockmaster. Bishonen | tålk 11:28, 21 October 2020 (UTC).
- I second this [10/19/20] StevenStallion78694
- StevenStallion78694 is an indefinitely blocked sockpuppet. Bishonen | tålk 11:28, 21 October 2020 (UTC).
- I agree and support this proposition as well {10.20.2020} Billy-the-Whale-18 —Preceding undated comment added 23:19, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
- Billy-the-Whale-18 is an indefinitely blocked sockpuppet. Bishonen | tålk 11:28, 21 October 2020 (UTC).
- Sources from outside India? This situation is indeed analogous to Bombay/Mumbai... but also to Bangalore/Bengaluru, which had its own recent RM end in no consensus. I can't support this move without seeing the sources. O.N.R. (talk) 02:24, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME. The other articles mentioned were not moved until most reliable English sources had shifted their usage. Until it's demonstrated that reliable English sources have shifted their usage on this, the article should remain where it is. Rreagan007 (talk) 02:38, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose on the basis that the RM was raised by a blocked user, and is deliberately disruptive. Jokulhlaup (talk) 15:08, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
- The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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