Talk:W. E. B. Du Bois

Semi-protected edit request on 13 November 2020

changing the wording from "Blacks" to "POC" or "People of Color" in order to avoid offensive wording. SOLOSOD (talk) 03:42, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

 Not done for now: The Manual of Style doesn't regard "Blacks" as offensive (and in this article in particular it would probably be historically appropriate); see for example Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Words to watch § Vulgarities, obscenities, and profanities or the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Capital letters § Proposed update to MOSCAPS regarding racial terms. There's also a Wikipedia guideline Wikipedia:Offensive material. If you think that Wikipedia should treat "Blacks" as offensive for writing style purposes, you'd want to start at the policy level (by attempting to achieve consensus for such a change on the talk pages of the policies) --‿Ꞅtruthious 𝔹andersnatch ͡ |℡| 04:44, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

While I cannot speak for either blacks specifically or people of color generally, I believe many in the black community would find the excising of tthe term black itself to be offensive & perhaps censorship, including Du Bois himself. Please see Black Power movement & Black Lives Matter. Peaceray (talk) 06:39, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Misleading picture

The photo of the Congregational Church in Great Barrington, Massachusetts shows the present church, said to have been built in 1883. If that's correct, Du Bois can't have attended it as a child and the picture, however beautiful, doesn't belong in the article. At the very least, the caption should make clear that this building is a newer one. 151.177.57.31 (talk) 00:28, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

The present structure was built in 1882 and dedicated in September, 1883, at which time Du Bois would have been 14-15 years old. That pretty neatly lands him in the camp of child congregants. WhampoaSamovar (talk) 15:27, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 February 2021

2600:6C5A:4A7F:ABCC:E96D:3AFE:EA8E:5797 (talk) 17:45, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

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No edit requested. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:52, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 May 2021

Citation 81 (https://www.theatlantic.com/past/docs/unbound/flashbks/black/mcgillbh.htm) is a dead link, replace with https://web.archive.org/web/20201210101232/https://www.theatlantic.com/past/docs/unbound/flashbks/black/mcgillbh.htm ? NKulp (talk) 21:06, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

 Done I kept the original link, however I added the dead link, as well as adding the date the website was archived, and set the link status to dead. GameTriangle (talk) 22:30, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

W.E Dubois is Not Ghanaian

There is no evidence to suggest that W.E Dubois is from Ghana. He only died in Ghana. That does not make him Ghanaian. He is an African-America. His mother was African-American and so was his father. Sorry, but this is revisionist history and a disrespect to actual Black American History. MeiChan01 (talk) 11:41, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 November 2021

There is no substantial evidence that W.E.B Dubois is Ghanaian. Both of his parents are from and born in the United States. W.E.B Dubois died in Ghana that does not mean he is from there. MeiChan01 (talk) 11:55, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

As the article states, and I quote "In October 1961, at the age of 93, Du Bois and his wife traveled to Ghana to take up residence and commence work on the encyclopedia.[315] In early 1963, the United States refused to renew his passport, so he made the symbolic gesture of becoming a citizen of Ghana.[316] He had, at various times in his life, both American and Ghanaian citizenship. --Jayron32 12:06, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

WEB Dubois Is not Ghanaian

This is a lie and need to be changed. This is disrespectful to African Americans who history African immigrants is trying to change. 2601:14F:8300:E50:8D70:AF5F:1F3C:7721 (talk) 12:38, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

The statement has a source. It is cited to David Levering Lewis's Pulitzer Prize-winning biography of DuBois, W. E. B. Du Bois: Biography of a Race, 1868–1919, page 712. Lewis is not an African immigrant, and he is not lying. He's a well-respected historian, and unless you have evidence that he is lying, you should produce it. You can't just level accusations like this without proof. --Jayron32 13:36, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

Exactly. There is no source that says he is Ghanaian at all. Both of his parents are Black American. MeiChan01 (talk) 13:51, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

No, there is a source. I just cited it for you. He became a Ghanaian citizen in 1963. This article is not about his parents, it is about DuBois, who was an American citizen at birth, and a Ghanaian citizen by naturalization as of 1963. --Jayron32 14:11, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

W.E.B Dubois Isn’t Ghanaian Part 2

Just because someone moved to the country and denounced their citizenship doesn’t mean they are that. He is not Ghanaian he is African American. Example: Just because someone moves to China does not make them Chinese. Even if they became a citizen in that country. That is not their ethnic group. Again. Stop revising Black American history and historical figures it’s giving White Supremacist. It’s giving ethnocide, and it’s giving colonization right now. Also who ever wrote that please learn the difference between race, ethnicity and nationality. Tina Turner’s page needs to be changed as well. She’s not Swiss, she just nationally Swiss due to renouncing her citizenship. But if that person was raised and born in said country that is what they are ethnically. I won’t be the first here considering black American groups have caught wind of this. If it’s changed to Ethnically American and Nationally Ghanaian. 2601:40B:8400:AD10:B9A6:3828:509B:A906 (talk) 22:34, 30 November 2021 (UTC)