Talk:Suez Crisis

Suggestion for one of the missing citations

I would suggest using the following citation for the aftermath section of this article: Yaqub, Salim. Containing Arab Nationalism: The Eisenhower Doctrine and the Middle East. Chapel Hill: University of North Carolina Press, 2004.

ATTN: Someone with editing priveledges.

User:DrSangChi (talk) 12:14PM, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Please add another link...

There is no link for People's Republic of China. [I can not do this, although i have hundreds of edits to various Wikipedia pages.]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 1 January 2022

In Israel, the Suez Crisis is known as the Sinai Campaign not the Sinai War.

Source: Sinai Campaign pickle (talk) 11:56, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

 Note: Sinai Campaign is mentioned in the footnote. DigitalChutney (talk) 14:56, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit extended-protected}} template. It is already mentioned in the footnote. Please establish a consensus if you wish to change the lead text. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:20, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 9 January 2022

Hello! In the war summary template on the top of the article, there's a glaring error that lists the British and French as operating Soviet-built aircraft. I highly suspect the entire offending segment, ostensibly conveying information about Coalition aircraft strength, is actually using information mostly or entirely relating to Egyptian Aircraft losses. I think it should be deleted. The offending section reads as such:

"Anglo-French air campaign: 45 MiG-15s, 40 Vampires, 32 Meteors, 49 Ilyushin Il-28s, and more than 100 other aircraft[8]"

The British and French obviously did not use (or have) dozens of Soviet-built MiG-15s and Il-28s during the Suez Crisis, but Egypt did. Later on in this article, the Egyptians are also mentioned as using British-built Meteors and Vampires in combat and suffering losses. While these were indeed British-built aircraft, the parts of this article describing Anglo-French airstrikes do not describe them using Vampires or meteors at all (instead using more modern Sea Hawks, Wyverns, F4U Corsairs, and F-84s). Thus, I doubt the British (or French) used them (either at all or in significant numbers) in the Suez Crisis, though I do not have a source explicitly saying this. However, Israel did operate Meteors in this conflict. Thus, most or all of this aircraft information is either outright wrong or probably relates to the Egyptian forces, instead of intermingling Coalition and Egyptian aircraft information.

The source for this information has the subtitle "Statistical Encyclopedia of Casualty and Other Figures" and, later on in this article, the Egyptians are implied to have 150 MiG-15s and 50 Il-28s in service just before the war started (although the Il-28 wikipedia article says Egypt actually had 70). If you add up the numbers in the offending section, it lists 166 specific planes plus "more than 100 other aircraft" which is similar to the "215+ aircraft destroyed" already listed under Egyptian losses. Thus, while I do not own that book, I highly suspect that this information is actually listing Egyptian aircraft losses, rather than coalition or Egyptian air strength. However, I do not know if the Meteor losses include Egyptian losses alone, or Egyptian and Israeli Meteor losses combined. Lastly, it would make sense that Il-28s suffered a much higher loss rate than MiG-15s, as Il-28s were a priority target for Israeli airfield strikes, so while I cannot verify these numbers, they do pass the smell test if they are referring to Egyptian aircraft losses (for whatever that is worth).

I suggest the offending section simply be deleted.

Thanks! Zwifree (talk) 21:58, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

Reading the article, it looks like the MiG-15s and Ilyushin Il-28s were used by Egypt, so this may be just a formatting issue. Onceinawhile (talk) 23:46, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 18 January 2022

There's been a really awkward error (most likely a formatting error) in the template at the top of the article that has resulted in information about Egyptian losses being presented as information about Coalition strength. This has been up for months and multiple edit requests have gone ignored, which is really strange, considering several people have spotted this and asked for it to be changed. I don't know if someone is griefing the article or if there is just confusion about what the issue is, but just to be unambiguous and save everyone some time (and I'm sorry if this seems rude), this is what we are referring to:

I recommend you delete the part that says: "Anglo-French air campaign: 45 MiG-15s, 40 Vampires, 32 Meteors, 49 Ilyushin Il-28s, and more than 100 other aircraft[8]". Based on the research I outlined in a much longer edit request, this information almost certainly refers to Egyptian Aircraft losses, not coalition air strength. The statement that Britain and France operated dozens of Soviet-built/designed MiG-15s and Il-28s is comically inaccurate. However, the template already lists Egyptian aircraft losses, although in less detail, so I recommend you simply delete this information instead of moving it. Zwifree (talk) 19:57, 18 January 2022 (UTC)