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December 13

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Category:SARS

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 08:29, 21 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:SARS to Category:Severe acute respiratory syndrome
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Propose expanding abbreviation to match main article Severe acute respiratory syndrome. "SARS" can be ambiguous. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:56, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Poland – England relations

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The result of the discussion was: upmerge/delete. Bearcat (talk) 17:01, 31 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Poland – England relations (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete. I suggest this category is too small to be necessary or desirable at this time. At the time of nomination, it contained only Eastland Company. Good Ol’factory (talk) 21:57, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Upmerge to Category:Poland – United Kingdom relations. While the Eastland Company was an English Company, for most of the time of its existence, Scotland and Ireland had no separate diplomatic relations with any one. Under the British constitution, foreign relations are part of the Royal Prerogative. The three kingdoms had a single monarch and all ambassadors were his (or her) representative, hence representing the monarch of them all. Accordingly in practice, the merge target is identical to the category being discussed. I know about this, because in recent months I have worked on improving many of the lists of British ambassadors, envoys-extraordinary, etc. Peterkingiron (talk) 22:09, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep I disagree with Peter here, as the Scottish trading links were established prior to the Union of the Crowns: see [1] and the reference at Economy_of_Scotland#Textiles for example. I'd favour retaining the current English category and hope it can be joined by others in time, as articles mature. AllyD (talk)
Comment -- The presence of Sottish peddlars in Poland was so prevalent that the Polish word for a peddlar is derieved from that for a Scot. I was haowever primarily referring to diplomatic relations, which is what categories of this kind tend to be about. Nevertheless, I agree that trade relations are also relevant. What I had in mind was that this is not a case where the category really needs to be split between the nations of the UK. Scottish trade relations with Poland, in my opinion, would be one that could properly be categorised in the (UK) parent category. That is not intended as an insult to Scotland, or to deny its pre-1603 (or pre-1707) status, but a matter of practicality in not having a lot of minute categories. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:01, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think it's the Polish word for "stingy" that derives from Scots? But obviously related to the trading process anyway, so no matter! Peter and I are obviously placing different interpretations on the word "relations": him diplomatic and me commerce, which rather indicates the limitation of the current category name - see below. AllyD (talk) 15:55, 20 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Upmerge to Category:Poland – United Kingdom relations. There don't appear to be any Scot/Pole or Welsh/Pole articles as yet so no need for splitting (and ones pre-1800 or whenever would not be correctly in any UK parent category). Occuli (talk) 21:38, 15 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Looking further at the sole article and its other categories, I see it is under Category:Chartered companies. In time, I'd like to see that subcategorising in two directions, by trading power and the targets of their activity (so gathering all English or Dutch companies to one side; gathering all East India companies to the other). But for the moment, I now agree this one is superfluous (and wouldn't want to see it placed in an untimely "United Kingdom" category). AllyD (talk) 15:55, 20 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:ATHF Voice Actors

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Although there was no further discussion after the nomination, there's a clear precedent against categories of this type — so, invoking the WP:SNOW principle, there's no point in relisting. Bearcat (talk) 16:46, 31 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Category:ATHF Voice Actors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Overcategorization of performer by performance. We don't categorize actors by their appearance in specific films or TV series. Good Ol’factory (talk) 21:49, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:ICarly Actors

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Bearcat (talk) 16:37, 31 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Category:ICarly Actors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Overcategorization of performer by performance. We don't categorize actors by their appearance in films or TV series. Good Ol’factory (talk) 21:45, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Glee songs

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Bearcat (talk) 16:21, 31 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Glee songs (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Apart from the name of this category being ambiguous, it is overcategorization by performance. We don't categorize songs by their appearance in films, games, or TV shows. This is categorizing songs by their appearance in Glee (TV series). Good Ol’factory (talk) 21:43, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:A Christmas Story

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The result of the discussion was: Speedy delete per WP:CSD#C1 (empty for 4 days) --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 04:48, 20 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Category:A Christmas Story (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Category had been bloated with addition of articles on products mentioned in the movie, pieces of music in the movie, etc. Once these were deleted, the remaining articles fit more reasonably in Category:Jean Shepherd and its subcat, making this category basically useless. John Carter (talk) 19:21, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:DKP members

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The result of the discussion was: Rename to Category:German Communist Party members --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:22, 23 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:DKP members to Category:German Communist Party members
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Expand abbreviation. Darwinek (talk) 18:56, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Comics ambox templates

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The result of the discussion was: Delete --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:17, 23 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Comics ambox templates (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Category:Comic books ambox templates (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: No reason to separate templates by their technical components, because that is 1. not essential 2. subject to change. The one template that was moved here today can be moved back to the parent Category:Comics templates. Debresser (talk) 18:40, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:LGBT rights by year

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The result of the discussion was: Merge, no prejudice against subsequent renaming in the other direction. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 11:26, 20 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Suggest merging Category:LGBT rights by year to Category:Years in LGBT rights
Nominator's rationale: Merge (or reverse merge). Both categories contain the LGBT rights by year series, only one is needed. The parents of both should be added to whichever is kept. Tim! (talk) 09:03, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Fooian dance

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The result of the discussion was: withdrawn. Wow, I suck at these things. — ξxplicit 22:26, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Content copied from WP:CFDS
End copied material
  • Keep – Grutness is correct re Ireland/Irish, and I am sure Cuban Dance is a style (or collection of styles); I have no info on Korean Dance. (I am assuming the usual laws of logic apply to dance, unlike say in the Wine categories, where inebriation might be a factor.) Occuli (talk) 14:12, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Category:Irish dance, which refers to a style, not a location. I do not know about the rest, but I suspect that the same considerations may apply. I do not like "Irish dances", since "dance" is the appropriate collective noun. If necessary, the category should be provided with a short introductory note defining its scope, making clear why "ballet in Ireland" would not be an appropriate member. Peterkingiron (talk) 21:56, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep A geography /genre issue similar to the recent Brazilian jazz/Cuban jazz topic. AllyD (talk) 22:23, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:ATHF Characters

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 10:35, 20 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:ATHF Characters to Category:Aqua Teen Hunger Force characters
Nominator's rationale: To expand acronym and correct capitalization. — ξxplicit 02:47, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Talk pages

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The result of the discussion was: delete as utterly pointless. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:39, 18 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Talk pages (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Redundant. If used it will contain millions of entries. Which namespace is it for? -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 02:33, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Seems to be some kind of bad joke. — SMcCandlish [talk] [cont] ‹(-¿-)› 04:35, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Please don't delete! Some users may simply wish to label their talk pages as "talk pages". Why is this a joke? This is similar to the Category: Wikipedians. It may be argued that all the userpages can be categorised as Wikipedians, but some may prefer to have that label, while others do not. I like this category.Difu Wu (talk) 14:24, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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