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June 17

Tables

Hello. How do I center the text in a content cell in a table? Cherrell410 (talk) 02:11, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

Like this:

cell1

cell2

cell3

Bazza (talk) 08:09, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

Yes, but how Cherrell410 (talk) 13:21, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

You need to look at the source code (what you see when you use "Edit source"). In this case, the code is style="text-align:center;" embedded into the correct table code. See H:TABLE for more instructions. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:36, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

As Mike Turnbull says, press "edit source" next to "Tables" in the heading above, and you'll see the source code for this entire conversation, including the Wikitable I gave as an example and which you can copy into the source of the page you're editing.

If your using the Visual Editor to write your page, then it has tools for inserting a table, and aligning text in cells.

Finally, be aware of any accessibility issues there might be in centring text: some people find it less easy to read. Bazza (talk) 15:01, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia.org

Hello. When you open the wikipedia.org webpage, it says that the english wikipedia has 6 458 000+ articles. The english wikipedia main page says that it has 6 520 000+ articles. Is that number on wikipedia.org ever purged or updated? Cherrell410 (talk) 02:12, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

AFAIK the en.wp Main Page link is accurate; the wikipedia.org webpage is likely cached or only updated periodically. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori} 03:15, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

Ok Cherrell410 (talk) 13:22, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

In case you want to use it elsewhere, Cherrell410, there is a "magic word" that gives the correct number, automatically updated, currently 6,910,192. See my source code here for the bit you would need. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:32, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

Updates are usually reported at phab:T128546. The latest was 13 June. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:30, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

@Michael D. Turnbull i was just wondering, but thanks. Cherrell410 (talk) 22:48, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

Inyo County Sheriffs. Left out was Allen B George. Sheriff from Nov. 7 1990 - 1996

 Courtesy link: Inyo_County,_California § County_Sheriffs

I would like to place Allen B. George in context. He was left out of Sheriffs of Inyo County. Nov.7 1990-1996 Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:1970:511D:DB00:0:0:0:B040 (talk) 02:23, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

I was looking at the article and it said that the sheriff was Don Dorsey. Do you have a reference that I could read? Cherrell410 (talk) 02:54, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

Page that doesn't exist exists

This page has a notice at the top saying it has been deleted, but there is still text in the page. When 'View source' is pressed, the source can still be seen. However, there is no history. How can this page be deleted and exist at the same time? weeklyd3 (message me | my contributions) 02:54, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

@Weeklyd3: This is a configurable software message. If the page exists, it overrides the internal software message. If the page does not exist, it shows the default given by the MediaWiki software. —Kusma (talk) 11:16, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

@Kusma I'm not clear how what you wrote addresses OP's question. I think he might have wanted to ask: Why does that page, "MediaWiki:Enotif body", have a View source tab at the top, but does not have a View history tab? The page MediaWiki:Enotif_reset, for instance, has both of those tabs. If "Enotif body" doesn't exist, why does it have View source? If it does exist, why doesn't it have a View history tab? - R. S. Shaw (talk) 05:07, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

@R. S. Shaw: See meta:Help:MediaWiki namespace. The Mediawiki namespace allows, amongst other things, users with the required write privilieges to customize the software interface by editing the corresponding MediaWiki-namespace page. Just to give an example, the legend on the "view history" tab is controled by MediaWiki:Histlegend in the local Wiki. If that page doesn't exit, the software will use the default (if it has one), mainly to aid in creation of new Wikis which /probbably/ don't have pages in the Mediawiki namespace yet. When a default is available (that is, it is a MediaWiki:-page who's location is defined by the MediaWiki software), that default is also displayed when viewing or (attempting to) edit a locally nonexistent MediaWiki:message name page. Such default views don't have a "view history" link since there is no local history. If, on the other hand, you're viewing a MedaWiki:-pge where no default is available (like MediaWiki:crazynonexistentpage), they behave like all other nonexistent pages, with the exception that they're automatically protected create=sysop by the software. Users with the required edit permission can override the default message contents by creating the local page, thereby starting a local history and therefore making the "view history"-tab appear. to get back to the example, MediaWiki:Enotif body is the MediaWiki default text for the Message "Enotif body", and therefore has no local history. MediaWiki:Enotif reset, on the other hand, is customized on enwiki since April 2015, and therefore displays the local text along with the "view history"-tab. Victor Schmidt (talk) 05:55, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

Short version which omits the purpose: There was a wiki page which has been deleted. MediaWiki instead displays a text which is part of MediaWiki itself. PrimeHunter (talk) 06:44, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

@Weeklyd3: This is actually a deep metaphysical question. See This Is Not a Pipe for a similar issue. The text on MediaWiki:Enotif body is not intended to describe MediaWiki:Enotif body. The page is one of many items that are part of the configuration parameters of the MediaWiki software that customize it to create the MediaWiki instance that is the English Wikipedia. Many of these items are syntactically in the form of MediaWiki pages and are therefore syntactically identical to Wikipedia pages, which is convenient because it allows the administrators of this instance of the Mediawiki software to easily edit these parameter pages using the same tools that editors use to edit content pages. In this case, the MediaWiki software is written display the contents of a page named MediaWiki:Enotif body if the user attempts to access a page that does not exist. If you were running your own wiki using MediaWiki software on you own computer, you could change the "MediaWiki:Enotif body" on your Wiki to say whatever you like. -Arch dude (talk) 16:29, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

June 18

Translated quotes

Quick question about translated quotes. Let's say I have a quote from a publication in another language that I want to use in the prose. How do I indicate that it has been translated, and do I include the original text? Thanks (I'm not watching this page – please use {{reply to|PerfectSoundWhatever}} on reply) — PerfectSoundWhatever (t; c) 01:51, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

@PerfectSoundWhatever, see MOS:FOREIGNQUOTE in the Wikipedia:Manual of Style. StarryGrandma (talk) 02:05, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

Links

the links in the article. List of most-streamed songs on Spotify they are not complete and they are also very poorly added, Can someone find out if some anonymous user deleted the missing links on purpose or is it some kind of vandalism?--Tirso Gutiérrez (talk) 15:50, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

@Tirso Gutiérrez: You seem to have been working very hard on that article recently and it now looks fine to me (but I'm no expert on the topic). Thanks for tidying things up. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:31, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Deleting Sandbox userpage

1 - Since I made Significant New Alternatives Policy, I want to delete my userpage Sandbox I was using before making that page: User:Fephisto/Significant_New_Alternatives_Policy . How do I do this?

2 - I'd like to do that css thing where the top and left headers of a table are static as you scroll down the document in Significant New Alternatives Policy#Refrigerants. What would be the best way to go about that?

Fephisto (talk) 17:05, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

@Fephisto::

1. You can tag a page in your own userspace where you're the only significant contributor with {{db-u1}} to request that an admin deletes it.
2. I'm not sure if this is generally done from an accessibility/MOS standpoint, but in general, creating sticky headers works similar to this:

Table header

first collumn	second collumn	third collumn
cell A1	cell B1	cell C1
cell A2	cell B2	cell C2
cell A3	cell B3	cell C3

Note that any solution is likely going to be skin-dependent, as some skins (notably Vector 2022 and Timeless) have their own sticky elements. Victor Schmidt (talk) 17:33, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

Thanks! Fephisto (talk) 17:42, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

VIAF name

I looked for Michi Kobi's Japanese name in this VIAF link: [1] From that link, I think it is 岡本まち子 and added it to the English article and Wikidata. But later I thought: is it the same person? The person died in 2016 and their death date is not shown beside her Japanese name. So it might be a different Michi Kobi who just so happens to have the same birth year, but is still alive. FunnyMath (talk) 21:28, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

I looked into Web NDL Authorities and it says the information was last updated in the year 2000: [2]. So that might explain why the death date wasn't included. But still, I want another fellow Wikipedian to confirm that 岡本まち子 is Michi Kobi's Japanese name. FunnyMath (talk) 22:52, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

岡本まち子 is Okamoto Machiko, which the article says is her original name. In normal circumstances it certainly couldn't be read Michi Kobi (in particular, the personal name is written partly in Kana, and so could not be read any way other than Machiko). I don't know for sure that she could not have used it for her stage name, but I would be extremely surprised. ColinFine (talk) 14:48, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for your help. I've now found out that her name in Japanese is spelled either ミチ・コビ or ミッチ・コビ. I got the ッ-less name from a book and the ッ name from several websites, including Yahoo! JAPAN. You can see the sources in the Michi Kobi article in the lead. Are all the sources I used for her Japanese name reliable? FunnyMath (talk) 23:18, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

June 19

Systemic Revertions

Hi, a user called Dennis has reverted an edit under completely unjust circumstances. He claims the website I referenced is 'unreliable' without any reason given as to why and he claims it 'steals' from all around the internet, which is factually inaccurate as the writing there is original. He says it takes information from all around the internet - isn't that the point of valid citations? You get the same information from many independent sources?

He also says its "without giving real sources" - the article has a bibliography...

I believe this is some weird power dynamic where Dennis and now one other user are reverting the edit despite it being a well known and respected website. What do I do in this situation?— Preceding unsigned comment added by MaxLousada (talk • contribs) 09:57, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

This isn't really a help desk question. You can open a thread at WP:ANI if you are unhappy about another user's conduct.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 10:05, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

@MaxLousada: I don't see anything that convinces me it's a trustworthy source. Refer WP:SPS. Thanks. Dr.Pinsky (talk) 10:26, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

Hello MaxLousada. When another editor reverts your edit (which is a totally normal part of working on a collaborative project like Wikipedia) your next step (unless you decide to drop the issue) is to discuss it with the other editors, usually on the article's talk page: see BRD. Please discuss it calmly with the other editors - with the intention of reaching consensus - on Talk:Arado Ar 196. If you cannot agree, then follow the steps from dispute resolution. ColinFine (talk) 14:59, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

Requests non yet completed

In past weeks I have posted 2 requests on “Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Illustration workshop” about fix and remake Wikipedia logo but there are no yet completed. I have posted in wrong page? Many thanks in advance for all your answers!!! --37.116.102.74 (talk) 15:38, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

Your IP posted requests in January of 2021(a year and a half ago) and according to the edit history(here) your request was accepted. Are you referring to another request? 331dot (talk) 15:44, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Graphics_Lab/Illustration_workshop#Wikipedia_logo_resize_request

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Graphics_Lab/Illustration_workshop/Archive/May_2022#Wikipedia_logo_fix_request --37.116.102.74 (talk) 15:55, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

Okay, those were under a different IP. One request was archived, and another requested clarity which you at least attempted to provide. Requests are fulfilled by volunteers on their own time. If a request is unclear, it is much less likely to be acted on. In reading it I'm not really sure what you are asking, either. (though I know little of image work) 331dot (talk) 16:01, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

For the second request, if I click on the image to see the graphic on its page at Commons, and click again on the image there, it seems to me that your request has already been carried out. I don't know understand why the changes aren't reflected in the smaller versions. Maproom (talk) 16:23, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

relese my own page

can i create my own pages on Wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anilsetty (talk • contribs) 20:10, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

@Anilsetty: You may create an article about any notable subject that does not already have an article. If your subject does not meet our definition of notable (WP:N), do not attempt to create an article about it, because we will delete it. We delete more than 100 articles every day. After you are certain that your subject is notable, please read WP:YFA to see how to proceed. -Arch dude (talk) 20:22, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

@Anilsetty: Welcome to Wikipedia editing. So far, you have created an account and made just one edit from it: to this Help Desk. I hope you will help build the encyclopaedia by, for example, improving articles for topics that interest you. Wikipedia accounts each have User Pages where we can, for example, tell other users what these interests are and give some basic information about ourselves: see WP:UPYES for what may be included. These pages are not articles and are not indexed by search engines. To create your own, just click on the (currently) redlink to your Username, above; add some text and "publish changes". Please do not try to create an autobiography: (see WP:AUTO) but enjoy your time here. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:19, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Frances Cornford

Dear Wikipedia,

I have been a modest annual donator to Wiki for quite a few years. I have several basic general questions about an entry for a close relative of mine that I cannot find a definitive answer to on any of your “Help” pages. I use Wiki a lot and find it very helpful, but I have to say finding out how to contact you amidst a byzantine forest of “help” links provided by you is some task.

My name is Dan Cornford. I am the grandson of Frances C. Cornford (FCC), who was a relatively famous English poet, or certainly became so after her death in 1960. Periodically, out of interest, I look up some of my famous relatives on Wiki. Three years ago I looked up the entry for FCC and was appalled by its incompleteness (See below). Last week, wishing to sending the link to a friend of mine, I looked the entry up again, and IMHO the entry was even weaker to the point where, for the first time, you said/say this above the entry: “This article may be in need of reorganization to comply with Wikipedia's layout guidelines. Please help by editing the article to make improvements to the overall structure. (August 2020) (Learn how and when to remove this template message).”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frances_Cornford

With all due respect, I do not think the problem lies so much with layout as with content, or lack thereof. To begin with since she was the granddaughter of Charles Darwin, and the wife of a prominent classicist Francis McDonald Cornford or FMC ( for whom there is also a Wiki entry), there is no shortage of biographical information on FCC. Two omissions are especially striking: 1) In the above entry, and earlier ones, nowhere to be found is a complete list of all her published books of poetry; 2) There is no mention of the fact that in 1959 she received the Queen’s medal for poetry. That is pretty basic and crucial information. I might add that there is only fleeting reference to two of her closest relatives, FMC and her eldest son, John Cornford, who has quite a long entry in Wiki.

Finally, and contributors cannot be blamed for this omission, is the fact that she became a British women poet of considerable stature after her death in the last decades of the C20th as experts in British women’s literature like Jane Dowson (Professor of English Literature at Montfort University, Leicester, UK and author of several books on British’s women poets of the C20th) can attest to.

As a history professor, albeit retired, and for other purposes, I have made extensive use of Wikipedia for biographical and other purposes. I greatly respect what you do, and I know that you depend on donations, and a volunteer staff, but looking at the entries on FCC over time gives me some uneasiness about the accuracy, and indeed, policies, of Wiki.

Of course I understand and respect, to a great degree, the principle of people writing and editing Wiki entries, but there are, as has been pointed out, also some obvious downsides to this. And I frankly I do not understand the extent to which you have safeguards to maintain quality control, quite aside from legal issues like copyright and libel laws. Given the later alone, however, there must be some degree of moderation by Wiki, even if by volunteer staff. However, I am finding no easy way to determine what the modus operandi of this moderation system is. I did find one reference to “protected entries” somewhere on one of your “Help” pages, but no account of what this means and how an entry qualifies for this status.

I will end with specific questions:

1) What restrictions are there on a relative writing or amending an entry on another relative? Any at all? Can a grandson or son undertake this task?

2) I would be willing to greatly amend and improve the current entry on FCC, even though someone like Jane Dowson could do a much better job than me. But, and here is really THE crucial question, if I or some expert were to do this, what is to stop someone coming along the next week, and deleting it all and writing their own version??? To write a good entry, even if one if very familiar with the subject, takes a lot of time—I am sure I do not have to tell you. I cannot possibly ask someone like Jane Dowson to do such a task, if she was willing, if her work could be nullified with a few keystrokes.

Finally, and again with all due respect, I find your instructions as to how you will communicate back to me (if you chose to do so), opaque. Please can you explain what exactly the following means on your “Help” page from which I am writing this communication: “For your own personal security, please do not provide your email address or any other contact details – especially your passwords – in your post, as this help desk is a highly visible page and all information placed here can be seen by the general public immediately. Answers will be provided on this page only; we are unable to provide answers via email or any other method outside Wikipedia.”

In short, if you have time to answer my questions above, exactly how will I hear back from you?

To an even better Wikipedia and very sincerely,

Dan Cornford

Davis, California — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:200:C000:2820:CCC4:1C71:A7C2:B839 (talk) 21:08, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Dan. You will get answered the way I am doing so, on the page where you asked the question. If you choose to Create an account, then it will be possible for people replying to you to ping you, so that you get a notification next time you log in.

To be frank, I haven't read your question in detail. Putting too much detail in a question on a general page like this is often counterproductive: it is better to go into detail somewhere where people with an interest in the particular article are likely to be found: either on the talk page of the article, or on the talk page of a suitable WikiProject (perhaps WT:WikiProject Poetry).

To answer your specific questions: a relative is generally assumed to have a conflict of interest, and so is advised not to edit the article directly, but to make edit requests on the article's talk page. If somebody wishes to embark on the very difficult task of creating an article about a relative, they may do so, but should use the Articles for creation process, and make their relationship clear on their user page. (Not having an account, you haven't currently got a user page).

To answer your second question: there is nothing to stop somebody else coming and altering the article. Any Wikipedia editor may edit (nearly) any article, as long as they abide by Wikipedia's principles and policies; which say (among other things) that they should faithfully summarise what reliable published sources say about the subject. Original research is not acceptable, including synthesis from different sources. No Wikipedia article should ever include argumentation, advocacy, or drawing conclusions, though it may report on these as advanced in single reliable published sources.

While experts are welcomed in editing Wikipedia, they often find it difficult to adjust to a context in which other editors will not defer to them simply because they are experts: see WP:Expert editors. ColinFine (talk) 21:38, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

@ColinFine Did you miss a "not" in "which other editors will defer"? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 22:23, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

I did indeed. Thank you Gråbergs Gråa Sång ColinFine (talk) 23:20, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

@ColinFine Perhaps you would like to now insert the missing "not" into your comment so that other readers aren't misled by its absence. - R. S. Shaw (talk) 01:36, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

R. S. Shaw - done now. --ColinFine (talk) 10:29, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi Dan! Following up on the advice given by ColinFine, the best place to discuss the Frances Cornford article is the article's talk page: Talk:Frances Cornford by posting your concerns or suggestions, along with the {{request edit}} template to get help from other editors. Or, you may find it easier to use the Wikipedia:Edit Request Wizard. Thanks for your efforts to improve Wikipedia! GoingBatty (talk) 03:44, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Beatrice Doran

Someone has put me up on Wikipedia which is not a great problem. However, the dste of my appointment to the RCSI as Library Director is incorrect. I began at the Royal College of Surgeons in 1986. Is it possible for me to find out who added me to Wikipedia without my permission?

Keep up the great work - it is an invaluable resource.

Kind regards

Beatrice Doran

Dr. Beatrice Doran — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:8084:60A3:6380:30E5:C6F2:6563:6E3B (talk) 21:29, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Beatrice. You can see the account names of everybody who has edited an article by looking at that article's history; but this will not necessarily help you, since many editors use pseudonyms. The permission of the subject of an article is neither sought nor required: since an article is supposed to be based solely on reliably published material, anybody may create or edit it except the subject or their associates, who are expected to restrict themselves to requesting changes using the edit request mechanism.

If you see a problem in the article Beatrice Doran, please see WP:AUTOPROB for what you can do about it. As for the date of your arrival at RCSI, that is sourced to The Irish Times, which says that you arrived there in 1991. I'm afraid that, unless you can produce a reliable published source that says 1986, or unless you can persuade the Irish Times to publish a correction, that is unlikely to change: see WP:verifiability. ColinFine (talk) 22:05, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

The post says "Library Director". The Irish Times says "chief librarian" and "Having moved to the RCSI in 1991".[3] RCSI itself says "1986 – first female professional librarian".[4] Health Information News & Thinking says "took on the role of Librarian in RCSI in 1986".[5] I guess "Library Director", "chief librarian", "professional librarian" and "Librarian" all refer to the same position and the Irish Times got the year wrong so I have changed the year to 1986 and just said "librarian".[6] PrimeHunter (talk) 22:54, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

June 20

Why do blocks often last 31 hours?

I've seen admins block for 31 hours. WP:31 says that this is to prevent them from coming back tomorrow and vandalizing, but is there any reason why it's 31, and not 30 or 32? weeklyd3 (message me | my contributions) 03:53, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

May because if it were 32 you'd ask why it's not 31 or 33? Bazza (talk) 08:33, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

If it were 32, I wouldn't complain as 32=2⁵ and 30 is a multiple of 10, but 31 seems an arbitrary number. —CX Zoom[he/him] ^{(let's talk • {C•X})} 08:44, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Also, suggesting to move to Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous). This isn't really asking for help, is it? —CX Zoom[he/him] ^{(let's talk • {C•X})} 08:44, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

@Weeklyd3: This question was previously asked and answered at the Teahouse: see WP:Teahouse/Questions/Archive_872#Block length of 31 hours? Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:02, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

There's not really any 'magic' to it. The idea is that if someone has some sort of daily routine, the 31-hour block keeps them from resuming vandalism where they left off during the same 'session' the following day. (That is, if someone engaging in vandalism in school, then seven hours(-plus-a-day) later they'll be at home. Someone who screws around on Wikipedia at six o'clock after work will probably have gone to bed before their block expires. This reasoning also applied to anonymous (IP) vandalism, when the aim might be to head off vandalism from a school library or similar shared computing facility.

On a related theme, the 31-hour block is more likely to be noticed by the blocked editor, and more likely to draw a response from the blocked editor. They may be more likely to acknowledge a problem - and request an unblock, with a commitment to end their disruptive behavior - if they face losing their editing privileges for a second day.

As Bazza notes, it could have been 30 or 32 hours for the same purpose and similar effect. Which admin originally established the 31-hour tradition I couldn't tell you. There are regular mentions of 31-hour blocks on WP:AN(/I) running back to at least the beginning of 2006, and they seem to have been unremarkable even then. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 14:32, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Need help troubleshooting table sort

I can't figure out why this table here has one row (1.71m) sorted out of place for height. data-sort-type=number doesn't help. Anyone else able to identify the problem? —— 2406:3003:2077:1E60:D59D:E6EC:AEA9:4652 (talk) 03:59, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Seems to also affect articles for other seasons of the show: 2, 3, 4... always one row out of place, very odd. —— 2406:3003:2077:1E60:D59D:E6EC:AEA9:4652 (talk) 04:24, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

The use of Template:Height is adding extra information to some cells which is interfering with the sorting. I've added sort values to the affected cells which has made this work properly. Someone else might come up with a better explanation or solution. Bazza (talk) 11:39, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Among other things, Template:Height adds . Here is a simplified example using another templatestyles Template:Smallcaps/styles.css to show the problem is not in Template:Fraction/styles.css:

Height
3
2
1

It appears to happen for any templatestyles. It sorts correctly if the first and second row are swapped in the source:

Height
2
3
1

It looks like a bug in the table sorter. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:59, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Infobox is not working

Can someone fix the code on this link The infobox is not working

Thanks

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordon_Hall — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nzs9 (talk • contribs) 06:10, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

@Nzs9: People may be happy to help, but you need to a bit of work yourself, like saying what's wrong with it. Bazza (talk) 08:43, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

The infobox wasn't displaying at the time of the post. It was fixed by adding a missing bracket.[7] PrimeHunter (talk) 10:53, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Although the bigger question is why this article as been re-created, 5 days after it was deleted by consensus. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:58, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

FYI

An admin has now re-deleted Jordon Hall. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:53, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Updating an SVG map

I just uploaded an updated SVG map of the countries with Ikea stores, but I'm unable to replace the old one as my account is quite new. Can anyone help me replace it? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zingercombo86 (talk • contribs) 06:13, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

It's usually better to update the original file, under its original name, rather that create a split with an image with a new name, that way File:Map of IKEA stores.svg has a complete changelog in one place.- X201 (talk) 08:16, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

The maps are likely not conformant with WP:ACCESSIBILITY. Bazza (talk) 08:30, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Jean Harlow

Your article says she was born in 1911, but that her father arranged her first marriage in 1908. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:8000:4E00:24A0:D53D:777F:3C63:4E68 (talk) 10:59, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Please bring this up at Talk:Jean Harlow. 331dot (talk) 11:01, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

No it doesn't, the infobox lists her first marriage as ​(m. 1927; div. 1929). If you're seeing this on a site that's not Wikipedia e.g. Google, then it's their responsibility to fix it. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:23, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Er, yes it does. In the article's second paragraph, after the lead: "In 1908, Skip Harlow arranged his daughter's marriage to Mont Clair Carpenter.". It looks like the article was subject to some unrepaired vandalism; I'll see if I can find the correct info. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 11:30, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Ah, I got it. The sentence is talking about Jean Harlow's mother - Jean Poe Harlow - not Jean Harlow herself. Skip Harlow was Jean Harlow's grandfather. Skip Harlow arranged the marriage of his underage daughter - Jean Poe, then 17 years old - to Mont Clair Carpenter. Jean Harlow (born Harlean Harlow Carpenter) was then born in 1911. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 11:44, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Jean Harlow#Early life says: "Her mother, Jean Poe Carpenter (née Harlow; 1891–1958), was the daughter of wealthy real estate broker Skip Harlow and his wife, Ella Harlow (née Williams). In 1908, Skip Harlow arranged his daughter's marriage to Mont Clair Carpenter." So the sentence is about the marriage of the subjects mother Jean Poe Carpenter. It gets a bit confusing because the mothers maiden name was Jean Harlow and the subject later used that as her own stage name instead of her birth name Harlean Harlow Carpenter. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:45, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

(Double edit conflict) It's the way the article is written. Its actually saying that Harlow's mother was forcibly married in 1908, which would tally with the 1911 birthdate for Harlow. - X201 (talk) 11:46, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

image uploading

i am facing problem in uploadig image to my article.when I click on point which is for image media hen after few seconds it appear

Failed to load the configuration for file uploads to the foreign file repository.

while when I tried to Wikipedia commons then

Running Windows Network Diagnostics Changing DNS over HTTPS settings DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN Check your DNS over HTTPS settings it appears.kindly help me in uploading image Ahsanfreelancer (talk) 12:19, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

A Specific File

Is this file suitable for Wikimedia, and if so, under what license? User1042 (talk) 12:39, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Hello, User1042. If you open the "Ordering and Viewing Options" panel, it says

"Credit: Library and Archives Canada /

Restrictions on use: Nil

Copyright: Expired"

I beliieve this means that you can upload it to Commons as public domain. I believe you can use the template Commons:Template:PD-Canada. ColinFine (talk) 14:39, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Two questions: please answer

So let's say someone asks a question or makes a request on a noticeboard or something but no one reponds and it is about to get (or is already) automatically archived. What would be the correct thing to do? Are there any good places to post elsewhere or rules about Template:pin section? I asked this earlier here but got no response. Should we make a page about that situation or add something about that to our current information pages?

Examples: [8] [9] (this page isn't watched that often it seems)

and also, why was my edit at m:Talk:Title blacklist reverted? is there any reason that page doesn't have an archive box?

67.21.154.193 (talk) 14:41, 20 June 2022 (UTC)