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Current status: Good article


First Black International Sports Star?

It says at the end of the top summary that he is the first Black international sports star, and there is a link to an article about proyecting Pele's legacy. But what about the legacy of Jesse Owens? 2607:FEA8:BCE5:300:B9DC:69CE:E0FE:47F8 (talk) 03:40, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I wondered this as well. OllyV (talk) 01:05, 30 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This looks like it's citing an opinion piece as fact. And Owens isn't the only one. Joe Louis was not only a hero in the country that oppressed his entire race in the 1930s, but widely known enough that the Nazis celebrated a German beating him once, and put considerable stakes on their man beating him for a second time. It's easy to think that football is the only world sport, but anyone in the world who had a newspaper or radio in the 1930s knew the name Jesse Owens or Joe Louis. Unknown Temptation (talk) 22:46, 30 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Think that’s a valid point. I’m removing “first” and retaining black global star. Nampa DC (talk) 23:10, 30 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Preparing for Pele’s Death

I am announcing here that Pele’s health is deteriorating and worsening drastically, we should start making improvements I think we will hear about Pele’s death soon.. 2601:183:4081:FEA0:0:0:0:412E (talk) 03:57, 26 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No, don't make edits confirming his death until it is officially reported. While it is deteriorating rapidly, it is not confirmed. Once it is, go ahead and edit it. Crazyeditor23 (talk) 04:31, 26 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It is offitial Theknighted1 (talk) 22:01, 27 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nvm the article was fake Theknighted1 (talk) 22:02, 27 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Official now MaskedSinger (talk) 19:23, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

RIP RoyalHeritageAlb (talk) 01:16, 30 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

RfC Possible infobox image replacement

Seeing how when Elizabeth II, Angela Lansbury, Meat Loaf, Jean-Paul Belmondo, Jerry Lee Lewis, Bill Russell and other celebrities pass away, their infobox images are replaced by ones in which they appear younger, at the peak of their career, black and white, etc. Should this also be applied to Pele? Seeing how he had just passed, there might be some potential edits to his infobox so holding a consensus now would avoid disruptive editing.

  • Option 1; 1962
    Option 1; 1962
  • Option 2; 1962
    Option 2; 1962
  • Option 3; 1995
    Option 3; 1995
  • Option 4; 1970
    Option 4; 1970
  • Option 5; 1965
    Option 5; 1965
  • Option 6; 1962
    Option 6; 1962
  • Option 7; 1963
    Option 7; 1963
  • Option 8; (variation of Option 2)
    Option 8; (variation of Option 2)
  • Option 9; 1965
    Option 9; 1965
  • Option 10; (closeup of Option 10)
    Option 10; (closeup of Option 10)
  • Option 11
    Option 11

I'm personally inclined for option 1. 2601:249:8E00:420:7D41:8C6B:2BFE:2201 (talk) 19:23, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

moved --FMSky (talk) 05:47, 30 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Option 4 it shows him as a footballer 2006toyotacorrola (talk) 11:12, 30 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Argh, why was Option 8 taken off?!! Looked really classy IMO. PeachyBum07 (talk) 18:40, 30 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Option 2' or Option 11 is the most suitable for me. I disagree with current image (Option 3) as after death of super star it is better to choose image from peak of career, and in fact almost evey moment of Pele's player career is his peak. 1962 fits too. First World Cup 1958 made his nickname O Rei, the last one (1970) made his reputation even greater when become first player to ahieve 3 WCs, in 1962 FIFA WC he had more limied role to triumph but in 1962 he was certainly at the top, he won for example interntional club competition that year with Santos. So personally I would choose black-white image from 1962 but it is just me. Dawid2009 (talk) 20:47, 30 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

First World Cup goal

Mention 1958 world cup but the article doesn't include the fact he scored his first World Cup goal against Wales in the quater finals. 2A00:23C8:1581:201:15B9:8BF5:5632:103C (talk) 20:07, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This could be a good suggestion for an edit. Do you have a citation to support the addition of this fact? Jurisdicta (talk) 16:46, 30 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

rip pele

rip pele 196.119.147.205 (talk) 20:28, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

RIP Pele 🙏🏾 NinHawk8940 (talk) 20:32, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

rip pele 77.137.66.28 (talk) 21:38, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]


RIP Pelé Salute 🫡 KING WIKIPEDIAN DCCLXIV (talk | contribs) 21:00, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

RIP Pelé once a legend always a legend we will never forget the player and man he was fly high 🕊️ Hiimsomebody123 (talk) 00:44, 30 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Notable mother's longevity

It is remarkable he was survived by his 100 year old mother Celeste Arantes do Nascimento.[1] [2] 201.17.92.33 (talk) 20:53, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Where the nickname came from

Wikipedia mentions that the nickname “Pelé” was given in high school because Pelé did not know how to pronounce the name “Bilé”, his favorite player, a goalkeeper at Vasco da Gama at the time. Pelé declared in his autobiography that he had no idea what “Pelé” meant, but that “Bilé” means “miracle” in Hebrew (פֶּ֫לֶא). פֶּ֫לֶא, however, does not translate as miracle, rather “wonder”.

Wikipedia menciona que o apelido foi dado no colégio por Pelé não saber pronunciar direito o nome “Bilé", seu jogador preferido, goleiro do Vasco da Gama na época. Pelé declarou em sua autobiografia que não tinha a menor ideia que “Pelé” significa, mas que “Bilé” significa “milagre” em hebraico (פֶּ֫לֶא). פֶּ֫לֶא, however, does not translate as miracle, rather “wonder”. 66.61.24.105 (talk) 21:03, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 29 December 2022

Wikipedia article mentions that the nickname “Pelé” was given in high school because Pelé did not know how to pronounce the name “Bilé”, his favorite player, the goalkeeper of Vasco da Gama at the time. Article states that Pelé declared in his autobiography that he had no idea what “Pelé” means, but states that “Bilé” means “miracle” in Hebrew (פֶּ֫לֶא). פֶּ֫לֶא, however, does not translate as “miracle”, rather it means “wonder” in Hebrew. 66.61.24.105 (talk) 21:15, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Was Pelé born in a favela?

Article doesn't mention favela and doesn't really have much about his childhood, but I thought he was born into that level of poverty. Seems worth clarification that I didn't get from visiting. Shanen (talk) 21:58, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

He was not born in a favela. He was born in a small city (Três Corações) in 1940. There were no favelas in small cities in the 1940s. I don't believe he was in that level of poverty in his childhood because his father (Dondinho) was already a soccer player in a major soccer team (Fluminense FC) in 1942. 201.17.92.33 (talk) 22:30, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Place of death

Morumbi is a neighborhood in the City of São Paulo, located in the State of São Paulo, his place of death should be listed as "São Paulo, São Paulo". Neighborhoods aren't legal entities in Brazil, i.e.: they merely exist to define location, and hold no official administrative power like in the United States, if Pelé were to die in any of the other 95 neighborhoods of said city, his place of death would still be São Paulo, São Paulo. Bastewasket (talk) 02:52, 30 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Pele

Died 59.94.195.42 (talk) 03:59, 30 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

We know. PeachyBum07 (talk) 04:41, 30 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Shouldn't we delete that line quoted "Regarded as one of the greatest players of all time and labelled "the greatest" by FIFA," in Pelé????

Pele was regarded as GOAT by Fifa. The link taken to the fifa website was deleted. Don't you think he didn't regard as GOAT anymore by Fifa? I think it will be biased for footballers to call them Goat by Fifa. Understanding this, they may deleted that post completely. Thus. Though they deleted from their site, in web archive it will remain forever.

So, shouldn't we delete that line quoted "Regarded as one of the greatest players of all time and labelled "the greatest" by FIFA," in Pelé???? HridoyKundu (talk) 10:03, 30 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

the article is originally from 2012 and doesnt exist anymore, so it does indeed seem like fifa doesnt consider him the greatest anymore. should be removed imo --FMSky (talk) 10:08, 30 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Just because FIFA made some changes to their website, doesn't mean the line should be removed. He is still regarded as the greatest, which you can see on the citation right next to it. TotallyJimmyFallon (talk) 00:32, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
that article just says "greatest player of the 20th century" --FMSky (talk) 00:36, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Huh, it does. Sorry. I still think the quote should kept, even if it got link rot'd. TotallyJimmyFallon (talk) 00:53, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Children

I've reluctantly tagged the biographical detail of Pelé's first three children as unreferenced. All the references used in the "Health" section support the spelling "Kely". Davidships (talk) 00:19, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Pelé : Hebrew origin

The transcription of the Hebrew word seems wrong; see here: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/פלא

In Hebrew this is pronounce /'pele/, which would be Pele in Portuguese.

Wathiik (talk) 11:55, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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