User talk:MathLine
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Again, welcome! Epicgenius (talk) 02:00, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
List of quadratic irrational numbers set in a systematic order
[edit]Your new article List of quadratic irrational numbers set in a systematic order appears to be original research. As you may know, original research is not allowed in Wikipedia. If it is not original research, you need to demonstrate this by adding references from reliable sources to the article. The whole layout and style of the article also needs to be improved. At the momement it is very difficult to understand, and it does not meet our manual of style rules. I don't want to be too harsh on an article that may still be under construction, but if you do not provide references and tidy up the article within a few days, I am afraid I shall be proposing it for deletion. Gandalf61 (talk) 09:16, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
- I am afraid that I take an even less favorable view of this article. Wikipedia, by its nature, requires that its contents have reliable sources, or at least the possibility of reliable sources. Arranging quadratic irrationals by the continued fraction expansion strikes me as a very peculiar thing to do, and I strongly doubt that there are sufficient sources to support an article of this nature. (A better order would be by the discriminant of the corresponding number field.) Consequently I have proposed deletion of this article. Ozob (talk) 02:03, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
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The article List of quadratic irrational numbers set in a systematic order has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
- Appears to be non-notable original research
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Nomination of List of quadratic irrational numbers set in a systematic order for deletion
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A discussion is taking place as to whether the article List of quadratic irrational numbers set in a systematic order is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of quadratic irrational numbers set in a systematic order until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. JohnBlackburnewordsdeeds 02:06, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
Re Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of quadratic irrational numbers set in a systematic order
[edit]I have undone your edit to this deletion discussion. It is now closed and no other edits should be made to that page. If you want to dispute the close the best thing is to first raise it with the closing admin, Postdlf. If that seems inappropriate or they are unable to help you then then the proper venue for disputing closed deletion discussions is Deletion review.--JohnBlackburnewordsdeeds 18:23, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
I have again removed your edit to a closed discussion, this time the one at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2013 December 17. Your one theoretical route of appeal is to the closing admin, Spartaz – if you feel they have made a mistake or you would like the closure explained you should ask them. But it would be unusual to do so; there have been two discussions on this now, both have come to the same conclusion. I suggest you read and review both discussions for the many reasons for this. There is no further review process, to review the review – after two discussions there is normally nothing else to be said.--JohnBlackburnewordsdeeds 01:36, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
Article userified
[edit]See User:MathLine/List of quadratic irrational numbers set in a systematic order.
I removed the AFD notice and orphan article notice from it prior to moving, just so there are no potential wrong category issues with it. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 00:40, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
- Please don't restore the article to main space without reaching consensus with other editors involved in the deletion discussions. Toddst1 (talk) 00:45, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
Edit war on Exponentiation
[edit]Hello. You appear to be involved in an edit war on Exponentiation .
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Continued edit warring on Exponentiation or any other article may cause you to be blocked without further notice. Toddst1 (talk) 00:53, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
Original research and edit warring
[edit]MathLine, I'm an administrator here on the English Wikipedia. As a result of your post at ANI, I have been looking over your contributions here on Wikipedia and I see a couple of troubling patterns:
- You do not cite your contributions. In fact, they seem to be 100% WP:OR. This is a major problem. While WP:CALC says the most obvious of calculations don't need to be cited, Verifiability is at the core of what we do here. You may be a maths expert, but frankly we don't take your word for it that you are correct. You need to cite your work using reliable sources.
- You have gotten into several edit wars on several articles (some spanning months) relating to actions where your unsourced additions to articles have been (correctly) deleted. That has to stop.
Continuing to edit in this manner will cause you to be blocked from editing.
I can tell you have a lot to contribute to the project - you just have to work within our rules to do so. Good luck. Toddst1 (talk) 01:02, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
I have reverted your addition, because I do not think that level of detail is required there, and because you seem to be trying to alter the general rule to fit a particular case. Per WP:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle, it is now time to discuss: if you want your change considered, please propose it on WT:NOT and see whether there is a consensus to make it. JohnCD (talk) 10:13, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
January 2014
[edit] Please remember to assume good faith when dealing with other editors, which you did not do on Wikipedia talk:What Wikipedia is not. Thank you. Toddst1 (talk) 16:22, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
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. However, you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. Toddst1 (talk) 13:46, 7 January 2014 (UTC)![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0c/Appointment_red.svg/48px-Appointment_red.svg.png)
MathLine (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
I cannot insert this comment to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mathematics#List of quadratic irrational numbers set in a systematic order due to this absurd block? A bit ridiculous. This should be placed somehow to that discussion: :The main criticism in this AfD and following Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2013 December 17 was a lack of significant coverage by sources which is required for a "stand-alone" page as described in WP:GNG. Due to these described high requirements I concluded that an addition of it as a new section in Periodic continued fraction is instead acceptable because it is indeed directly derived from its statements and sources—on the base of Wikipedia:What SYNTH is not#SYNTH is not explanation. The last listed edits in https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Periodic_continued_fraction&action=history show firstly a revert due to two to certain distinct locations focused criticisms by Toddst1 (talk · contribs). I obediently changed both locations to defuse this criticism and inserted again with detailed edit summary about it. Then JohnCD (talk · contribs) reverted also this, but not anymore with any further usable criticism, but with a wrong applying of WP:BRD (I fully obediently addressed all criticisms at all edits). Please confirm that JohnCD's last revert there is indeed wrong. Thank you. --MathLine (talk) 11:56, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
Decline reason:
This is a purely procedural decline, as you have not requested an unblock. Please don't use the unblock template for any purpose other than requesting an unblock. However, in the hope of helping you, I advise you that if you can't or won't accept that your editing is against consensus, then you are likely before long to be blocked indefinitely. Wikipedia works by collaboration, and an individual editor who continually battles against other editors, and refuses to accept consensus, can cause a good deal of disruption and waste of time, and is therefore likely to be blocked to prevent such problems continuing. Almost anyone who has edited Wikipedia to any significant extent will sometimes have had to accept that consensus is against them, even though they are convinced that consensus is wrong. When you can see that you are not going to get things your way, the best thing to do is to drop the issue and move on to other editing. JamesBWatson (talk) 12:33, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
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Your addition to Periodic continued fraction
[edit]For the third time, I invite you to read WP:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle. Your addition to this article was reverted by Toddst1; you should not have re-inserted it but started a talk page discussion to see whether there was WP:Consensus for its addition. As this material has been decisively rejected both at AfD and DRV, that seems unlikely, but that is the only way forward. If you want to try, I suggest a note at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mathematics would be useful, to attract expert contributors. JohnCD (talk) 18:38, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
Proposed deletion of Universal trinity
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The article Universal trinity has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
- This appears to violate Wikipedia's prohibition of original research as the content of an article.
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will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Michael Hardy (talk) 23:49, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
Proposed deletion of Fire in entertainment
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The article Fire in entertainment has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
- Appears to violate WP:OR. Arbitrary list of works containing fire with no evidence that this topic is discussed in WP:RS.
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will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Kinu t/c 15:30, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
July 2016
[edit] Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Coming Home (Diddy – Dirty Money song). Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been or will be undone.
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Please ensure you are familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive. Continual disruptive editing may result in loss of editing privileges. Thank you. Mlpearc (open channel) 22:45, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
Please stop making disruptive edits, as you did at Men in Black 3.
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If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, you may be blocked from editing. Mlpearc (open channel) 22:47, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Burning Down the House (disambiguation). Mlpearc (open channel) 22:48, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
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[edit] There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Mlpearc (open channel) 22:54, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
July 2016
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MathLine (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
I seem to got blocked due to the "edit war" User 82.14.37.32 applied against my extension of Category:Films about fires. In view of the indeed very rare films entirely about fire (the category contains at present only one film!) it seems logical to extend it this way. An alternative would be creating a new Category:Symbolic uses of fire in view of the abundant art works that could be listed there. The possibility of such an extension was not discussed before this block and neither the edit warring user nor the blocking admin give any policy related reasons why this category should rather remain that small. (I also just found that WP:Edit warring even forbids specially a third revert which indeed would has been a reason for me to turn to a talk page despite the edit warrers rudeness, I still think the word "funeral" was not appropriate to explain a situation to me.) --MathLine (talk) 01:35, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
Decline reason:
An unblock request is not for discussing proposed changes to articles or categories. You've been told repeatedly that your various ideas violate WP:NOR policies, among others; if you haven't figured this out yet, there may be a competence issue as well. OhNoitsJamie Talk 04:23, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
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MathLine (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
Ohnoitsjamie declines to unblock me by alleging that my last edits in Category:Films about fires and the mentioned suggestion to create Category:Symbolic uses of fire is WP:OR so that I do not only reformulate the concepts in my own words as permitted in Wikipedia:Copyrights#Using copyrighted work from others. But wikt:symbol defines it as a noun whereby the form refers to the same entity independently of the context so that the used term symbolic influence to the films' plots only expresses further references to fire as a form of expression within the films' plots and that the term symbolic uses of fire is a synonym for uses or appearances of the form of fire independently of the context. Therefore the disputed category expansions are uses of own words just like the already established idea of a Category:Films about fires itself which cannot be seen as WP:OR. MathLine (talk) 13:08, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
Decline reason:
You're arguing over whether the category you've added is original research, and while this is part of the reason you're blocked, it isn't the whole reason. In your next unblock request, I suggest you focus on what mistakes you've made that have resulted in your indefinite block, and stop trying to argue that you are right about everything. PhilKnight (talk) 23:03, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
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MathLine (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
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@PhilKnight It is all about communication. If you say I was seriously wrong about something (I suppose you mean something outside Wikipedia) I have now a chance to recognize and to apologize. Fundamentally lacking empathy was the main problem? MathLine (talk) 23:53, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
Decline reason:
I am declining your unblock request because it does not address the reason for your block, or because it is inadequate for other reasons. To be unblocked, you must convince the reviewing administrator(s) that
- the block is not necessary to prevent damage or disruption to Wikipedia, or
- the block is no longer necessary because you
- understand what you have been blocked for,
- will not continue to cause damage or disruption, and
- will make useful contributions instead.
Please read the guide to appealing blocks for more information. SQLQuery me! 04:46, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
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- As this request does not address the underlying reason for the block, I've disabled your access to this talkpage. The unblock template is not for back-and-forth communication. SQLQuery me! 04:46, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
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MathLine (block log • active blocks • global blocks • autoblocks • contribs • deleted contribs • abuse filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
UTRS appeal #16174 was submitted on Jul 19, 2016 09:31:42. This review is now closed.
--UTRSBot (talk) 09:31, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
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MathLine (block log • active blocks • global blocks • autoblocks • contribs • deleted contribs • abuse filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
UTRS appeal #16229 was submitted on Jul 27, 2016 15:41:28. This review is now closed.
--UTRSBot (talk) 15:41, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
MfD nomination of User:MathLine/List of quadratic irrational numbers set in a systematic order
[edit] User:MathLine/List of quadratic irrational numbers set in a systematic order, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:MathLine/List of quadratic irrational numbers set in a systematic order and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of User:MathLine/List of quadratic irrational numbers set in a systematic order during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. JohnBlackburnewordsdeeds 18:46, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
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MathLine (block log • active blocks • global blocks • autoblocks • contribs • deleted contribs • abuse filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
UTRS appeal #16700 was submitted on Oct 11, 2016 19:07:32. This review is now closed.
--UTRSBot (talk) 19:07, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
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MathLine (block log • active blocks • global blocks • autoblocks • contribs • deleted contribs • abuse filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
UTRS appeal #16718 was submitted on Oct 14, 2016 12:21:18. This review is now closed.