Talk:Gal Gadot

Birthplace

The YouTube video given stating she was born in Petah Tivka seems to be a badly filmed YouTube video of an Israeli tv show. Gal herself says was born in Tel Aviv and @Elizium23: says the source from The Forward where she says she was born in Tel Aviv is acceptable per WP:NEWSBLOG. This article from The Times of Israel says she was raised in Rosh HaAyin although I know in the past her Wiki article claimed she might've been born in Rosh HaAyin. I now want to know the consensus? I'm guessing until further notice, its okay to keep Tel Aviv as her birthplace and keep the hidden note about not to change that? There seems to be a lot of conflicting reports on Gadot's birthplace and I just want to settle this now because for a few years there's always been a back and fourth about her birthplace. Clear Looking Glass (talk) 23:58, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

Clear Looking Glass, I removed the link because it is a copyright violation. The claim is that the interview says Petah Tivka, but it's in Hebrew so we had to rely on someone's translation. I think Gadot's words in The Forward are clear. What other source is there? I have seen none. I examined her Hebrew-language Wikipedia article, and it uses the same sources, and one that is a dead link, nothing on the Internet Archives. These are the best sources we have. Elizium23 (talk) 00:03, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

Elizium23 - No worries! I'm sorry about that. I haven't found a better source either. The sources I recall seeing for her birthplace that wasn't Tel Aviv (Petah Tivka/Rosh HaAyin) were usually articles written about her, and I'm guessing that those articles based that info off whatever they saw on Google or whatever. But since she herself says she was born in Tel Aviv in an interview with The Forward, that does seem to be the best bet unless otherwise stated. Clear Looking Glass (talk) 00:22, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

User @LucyAyoubBrother: changed her birthplace again, citing the same YouTube video that's now private. Gal's claim of her birth place in an English language interview seem to be the best source we have unless someone can provide a better source. Which as mentioned above, we haven't found. I reverted the changes. "LucyAyoubBrother", if you feel this is wrong, then provide a better, WP:Reliable source and discuss here. Clear Looking Glass (talk) 19:22, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

She absolutely wasn't born in Tel Aviv, she was born in Tel Aviv suburbs (Petah Tikva and then her family moved to Rosh HaAyin), maybe you mean she was born in Hospital in Tel Aviv? She definitely grow up and raised in Rosh HaAyin. Her family didn't lived in Tel Aviv when she was born. Here one of the first articles about her in Hebrew from 2004 (when she did the beauty pageant), saying that she is from Rosh HaAyin. It says "Gal lives in Givat Tal in Rosh HaAyin HaHadasha, with her father Michael and mother Irit. She is the eldest in a family of two daughters. She graduated from high school with a biological major, with an impressive grade point average, and also studied jazz and hip-hop.", Givat Tal is the name of the neighborhood and Rosh HaAyin HaHadasha is the nickname of the area in the city (meaning The New Rosh HaAyin), jazz and hip-hop reffering to dance.

I checked and the YouTube video is from a featured episode of season 7 of the Israeli show DocuCeleb on Hot Israeli Entertainment network, back in 2013. She was featured on similar Israeli TV program Anashim in 2018: part one, part two. In minutes 03:24-04:30 of part one the narrator mentioning the names of her elmentry school and high-school: Eshkol Elemntry School and Begin High School both in Rosh HaAyin. The narrator didn't mention her middle school name in those timestamps, but later in the episode they interviewed a teacher from her middle school.

Here, in an article on a local news website of Petach Tikva, it mentioned that "International star Gal Gadot revealed in an interview with American W magazine that the first street she lived in was Stampfer in Petah Tikva.", Stampfer after Yehoshua Stampfer. You can watch the interview on YouTube (timestamp 1:27). Just in case something would happend to the video, there's a duplicate by Vanity Fair France. I'm hoping this clears things up. Sokuya (talk) 17:51, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

@Sokuya: - The video you tried showing doesn't show up for me. I just see a screen in Hebrew with no video, seemingly asking for me to register. Can you please find the exact moment where the television show says that she was born in Petah Tivka and then post the translation here? Then maybe we can get a more experienced user here for a final say or add both as her birthplace with a note explaining the conflicting sources, because Gadot herself has clearly said she was born in Tel Aviv in an English-language interview. I have looked at the interview for the Petah Tikva newspaper you provided, and the YouTube video interview for W Magazine and Vanity Fair France. She never explicitly says that she was born in Petah Tivka. They merely ask her what was the first street she lived in. Not that she was born there. The interview stating that she lives/is from Rosh HaAyin, and her going to school in Rosh HaAyin also doesn't mean that she wasn't born in Tel Aviv either. Someone could be born in one city and then move to another shortly after their birth. Until then, Gadot straight up saying that she was born in Tel Aviv is still the best and clearest source we have. Perhaps we could mention her growing up in Petah Tivka in addition to Rosh HaAyin. Clear Looking Glass (talk) 06:46, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

Try load the video couple of times and it will work for you, no need to register. However, the W magazine is a clear proof and enough that she was born in Petah Tikva, now you just denying it. I can find you more Hebrew sources 1 2 3 4 5 but this one was in English. What was the first street that she lived in? A street in Petah Tikva. She was born there. This is where her family lived when she was born. Sokuya (talk) 10:13, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

@Sokuya: - Again, she herself has also clearly stated she was born in Tel Aviv. Nothing in the quote or interview states that she was confused, and the interview made no mention of Petah Tikva or Rosh HaAyin. So it's possible that she was born in Tel Aviv and then moved to Petah Tikva shortly after she was born. But since Hebrew-language articles written about her state she was born/from in Petah Tikva, I'm going to put both Tel Aviv and Petah Tikva with a note explaining the situation. Also, there seems to be some confusing info, sources you have provided say she was born/raised in Petah Tikva,[1][2] with no mention of Rosh HaAyin, but other interviews only say she that was raised in Rosh HaAyin with no mention of Petah Tikva.[3]. So I'm going to put more information in the note explaining everything. Clear Looking Glass (talk) 00:21, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

There. I made the note explaining the situation because too many sources give conflicting information and I'm not sure who to believe. She herself has stated in an English-language interview that she was born in Tel Aviv, though Hebrew-language sources say she was born in Petah Tikva, and several other sources have claimed she was born in Rosh HaAyin.[4][5] Although a 2017 interview with Gadot only mentions that she was raised in Rosh HaAyin. Judging from all that, this likely narrows it down to either Petah Tikva or Tel Aviv, so I've put both cities there with the note. Clear Looking Glass (talk) 06:09, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

OK, first of all putting a note is way better than just write Tel Aviv. Let me try again to explain the situation. Gadot was born in the city of Petah Tikva, and then moved with her family to Givat Tal neighbourhood in Rosh HaAyin when she was little, because she also went to Eshkol Elementary School. Hebrew Wikipedia stating that she moved when she was 8-year-old. This is based on the Israeli documentry series DocuCeleb, the series doing in-depth researches on Israeli celebrities. Gadot was featured in an episode that aired on February 18, 2013 on HOT Bidur Israeli network (HOT Israeli Entertainment), now known just as HOT Bidur (HOT Entertainment). They even interviewed her mom for the episode so its very reliable material.

1. Does Gal Gadot was *born and raised* in Petah Tikva? – FALSE she was raised in Rosh HaAyin:

She wasn't raised in Petah Tikva, the article from earlier made a mistake. She grow up in Rosh HaAyin and it considered her hometown. We can say that beacuse in the Israeli media she is known to be from Rosh HaAyin, she said it herself on video (01:42) in 2004 when she won Miss Israel I'm Gal Gadot, 18.5-years-old from Rosh HaAyin, many articles mentioning her to be from Rosh HaAyin: subheader reads "Gal Gadot from Rosh HaAyin is only 23 years old" (from 2009), "Three years ago she was still a beautiful girl from Rosh HaAyin who did not dream of the world of glamor." (from 2007), article saying "The little girl from Rosh HaAyin who dreamed of becoming a pharmacist and studied biology" (from 2016), a facebook post (from 2018) promoting the Anashim featured episode (the another celebrity documentary series I'v mentioned before part one, part two) saying Gal Gadot Full story: How did the girl from Rosh HaAyin become one of the most influential and talked about women in the world?. She even make a joke about Rosh HaAyin in a HOT commercial (from May 2019) saying We're proud in our city, (Hollywood sign turn into Rosh HaAyin sign, and then she whisper) there nowhere like Rosh HaAyin (video timestamp 0:22-0:27), there was even an initiative in 2017 to named a street after her in Rosh HaAyin, it was a PR move in order to promote the Justice League movie in Israel as other article explain: The idea to name a street after the successful international actress Gal Gadot came up in the municipality after the distributors of the "Justice League" in Israel asked for their help in promoting the film in Israel.. Some databases still mentioning Rosh HaAyin as a birthplace, cause it's consider her hometown. In conclusion: defently didn't grow up only in Petah Tikva.

2. Does Gal Gadot was *born* in Petah Tikva? – TRUE

In June 2017, IP user start a disscusion on the Hebrew Wikipedia page of Gal Gadot saying that she was born in Petah Tikva, based on the program DocuCeleb. The user uploaded a clip of the program to YouTube as a proof stating "I uploaded to YouTube a clip from DocuCeleb that Gal Gadot was born in Petah Tikva and at the age of 8 moved to Rosh HaAyin". Since then Hebrew Wikipedia saying that Gadot born in Petah Tikva. Some news articles think it is worth mentioning that she is native of Petah Tikva such as: this article from 2018 "Why Gal, a native of Petah Tikva, who is admired by millions of people from all over the world" and so are others as I linked previously. In 2017 Interview to W Magazine she was asked "What was your first street that you lived in?" and she answer "First one was in Petah Tikva, which is the city, and it was Stampfer". (video 01:27 timestamp) meaning she first lived in Petah Tikva as other sources suggesting as well. Conclusion: So there we have couple of RS that supporting this fact. Most important are the W Magazine and DocuCeleb ones.

3. Does Gal Gadot was *born* in Tel Aviv? – not likely

In an interview to the American Jewish Forward newspaper from 2011, when she was asked "Tell me a little about growing up in Israel" she answer "My parents are sabras. I was born in Tel Aviv and had a normal life until I was 18, just before I was scheduled to go into the army, when I won the [2004] Miss Israel pageant". This is the only interview that saying she born in Tel Aviv. This is one of her first profile interviews in America when she was just play in Fast & Furious. My understanding and explantion for this error is that she want to keep it simple, readers in USA are not familer with Petah Tikva or Rosh HaAyin, but most of them heard about Tel Aviv. Petah Tikva and Rosh HaAyin are suburbs of Tel Aviv so it makes sense to say Tel Aviv to simplfy the story. The documentary series had the ability to go deeper with nuances because it was made for the Israeli audience who are familiar with this geograpghy. Conclusion: We can't say she was born in Tel Aviv based on this one article when there are no Heberw sources backing this up. Its just weird. Does the Forward knows better than the Israeli media?

Gadot is alredy very famous both in Israel and USA so there a little chance someone will make a another profile article about her childhood that she was born in that city and moved to that city. They can't mention it everytime they write about her. Probably only documentries will do it. We should use the DocuCeleb, W Magazine and Heberew Wikipedia to say that she was born in Petah Tikva, we can dissent this by writing in a note about the Forward interview only. However, I think its redunant because its only one inerview to a foreign newspaper early in her international career. Sokuya (talk) 08:07, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

@Sokuya: - I fixed the note given all the evidence. However, her claiming to be born in Tel Aviv, as well as several sources claiming she was born in Rosh HaAyin should still be mentioned in the note. Clear Looking Glass (talk) 07:43, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 March 2021

I would like to edit something in the "Personal Life" section. Lalaloopsy24 (talk) 17:35, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

@Lalaloopsy24: What would you liked to be changed in the section, and what's the reliable source supporting the change? —C.Fred (talk) 17:39, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Lalaloopsy24 (talk) 20:18, 1 March 2021 (UTC)She is pregnant with her third child.

References

We need a better source than Page Six. —C.Fred (talk) 20:21, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

LA Times is reporting it, so it's safe to add now. —C.Fred (talk) 20:57, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

 Done —C.Fred (talk) 21:01, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 April 2021

Last Name of Gal Gadots husband is "Versano" not "Varsano" BouncyChillups (talk) 10:52, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Between a quick Google and the currently cited sources here on this page, it seems both have been used, so probably a translation issue? If you can find a source that shows definitively that the English spelling should be Versano feel free to reopen this request, but otherwise will leave it as is - "Varsano" gets more hits than ""Versano" and the hotel they owned is under the name "Varsano" Cannolis (talk) 13:59, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 June 2021

I want to do some edits Please Trev789 (talk) 03:46, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Elizium23 (talk) 03:51, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

Generations

How can her father be sixth generation when her grandfather survived the Holocaust? 24.139.52.61 (talk) 21:12, 12 April 2023 (UTC)