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Pronunciation of name

Currently, there are three pronunciation guides for his name: English: /ˈtɪməθi ˈʃæləmeɪ/ TIM-əth-ee SHAL-ə-may, French: [timɔte ʃalamɛ]

How many do we actually need in the opening line? Krimuk2.0 (talk) 07:59, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Someone removed the French pronunciation. Guess this should suffice. Kailash29792 (talk) 10:09, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Let's close the Nationnality debate in the first sentense

The topic of Timothée Chalamet's nationality and identity is a controversial one, with some people arguing that he is purely American while others contend that he is a proud Franco-American. Chalamet's background and upbringing have been the subject of much debate, with evidence on both sides of the argument. In this discussion, we will explore the evidence that suggests that Timothée Chalamet is a Franco-American actor, and examine the factors that have contributed to his connection to both French and American cultures. As you know wikipedia aims to be unbiased and to write facts. This is why I would like to bring new elements which prove that timothée chalamet is indeed franch-american:

First of all, Chalamet has acted in French-language films and has spoken French in interviews. In 2017, he starred in the film "Call me by your name", which required him to speak French fluently and played with French actors. In this GQ magazine interview, the filmmaker Guadagnino, that produced a large part of the films where chalamet played, and who knows him very well, said: "Timmy is half American and half French, and we implemented this part of his essence. We made sure we could really use his Frenchness, the multilingual personality, and also his personality." Denis Villeneuve, producer of Dune also said "he's a very intelligent young man, maybe because of having the combination of american culture, french culture" in this interview (timecode: 4:00): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_xajvq2xkQ . Chalamet has also spoken French in interviews with French media outlets, demonstrating his ability to switch between both languages effortlessly.

In this interview the presenter asks timothée: "timothée, you who are both french and american (timothée says yes of the head), on which side your personality swings?" Timothée replied that for the film it was his European side (or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpzVhNZMxTc&t=512s)

Secondly, Chalamet has frequently referenced his French background in interviews and on social media. For example, in an interview with W Magazine, he discussed his upbringing in a bilingual household and how it influenced his decision to learn Italian for the film "Call Me By Your Name". He has also shared photos on Instagram of himself with his French grandmother and has mentioned her in interviews as someone who has influenced his life.

Thirdly, Timothée Chalamet was born in New York City to a French father and an American mother. His father, Marc Chalamet, is a French-born writer and editor, who worked for the United Nations. Chalamet has stated in interviews that he grew up speaking both French and English at home, which indicates his strong connection to his French heritage because 50% of his family is French.

If we refer to the definition, the term "French-American" refers to individuals who have both French and American nationalities, or those who have a strong connection to both French and American cultures. This can include individuals who were born to French and American parents, or those who have lived in both countries and have adopted aspects of both cultures into their identity. French-Americans often have a deep appreciation for French language, art, and cuisine, while also embracing the American values of individualism and freedom. Timothée Chalamet, with his French father and American mother, and his upbringing in a bilingual household, is an example of someone who can be considered a French-American.

In conclusion, Timothée Chalamet's French heritage and upbringing, as well as his references to and work in the French language, all provide strong evidence that he is not just American but a proud Franco-American.

In order to support my remarks, here are reputable non-francophone media that have given the name "french-american" to timothée: Vogue,nationaltoday, lofficiel, flicks and uk.yahoo said "he's french-american"

(sources: https://www.vogue.fr/vogue-hommes-en/article/story12-fun-facts-about-timothee-chalamet2403 https://nationaltoday.com/birthday/timothee-chalamet/ https://uk.yahoo.com/topics/timoth%C3%A9e-chalamet/ https://www.lofficielusa.com/film-tv/timothee-chalamet-dune-french-dispatch-release https://www.lofficiel.co.uk/film-tv/timothee-chalamet-dune-french-dispatch-release-goldenboy https://www.flicks.co.uk/features/will-2023-be-the-year-of-peak-timothee-chalamet/)

@Krimuk2.0 I really would like to have your opinion Hatrant (talk) 17:35, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There was already an RFC on this here. We'd need to have a new RFC if we want to change it. I for one am fine with it saying French-American, but I'll respect what the community decides. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 18:35, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your feedback @Krimuk2.0! I created the RFC if you want to express yourself Hatrant (talk) 08:33, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

RFC: Nationality in the lead and shortdesc

How should Timothée Chalamet's nationality be described in the lead and short description?

  • A) Lead: Timothée Hal Chalamet is a French-American actor. Shortdesc: French-American actor (born 1995)
  • B) Lead: Timothée Hal Chalamet is an American actor. Shortdesc: American actor (born 1995)

This RFC aims to discuss whether Timothée Chalamet's current mention as an "American actor" on Wikipedia accurately reflects his identity. Some argue that Chalamet's French heritage, bilingual upbringing, and references to French culture in his work and through his father and sister suggest that he should be referred to as a "French-American actor" instead. Others argue that he was born and raised in the United States and should be referred to as an "American actor". The RFC invites input from all users to determine the most accurate way to describe Chalamet's nationality on Wikipedia. Hatrant (talk) 20:02, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Poll

I vote A) He literally said "I'm french" in this talk show (timecode 4:18) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYKza0EQS-E 2A07:23C0:0:7000:0:0:0:5B0E (talk) 20:52, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Nice spoted I didin't notice it ! This plus my previous comment (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Timoth%C3%A9e_Chalamet#Let's_close_the_Nationnality_debate_in_the_first_sentense) are the reasons why I vote A Hatrant (talk) 20:58, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'd go with option A too: "French and American actor". Krimuk2.0 (talk) 10:25, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • I could live with "French-American" but I'm 60% leaning toward the American side as he was born and raised in America and heavily associated with New York as a fourth generation New Yorker who grew up in a famous New York apartment building, so my vote will go to B at this time. Trillfendi (talk) 21:16, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for your input. I understand your argument that Timothée Chalamet was born and raised in America and has strong associations with New York. However, it's important to consider that he has also frequently referenced his French heritage in interviews and on social media, and has even acted in French-language films. This suggests that he has a strong connection to both French and American cultures. In the answers below some users have found documents where timothée considers himself French in addition to American. Therefore, some users have proposed using the term "French and American" to accurately reflect his identity and It will respect the MOS:NATIONALITY chart. In view of these new elements, could this term suit you? Hatrant (talk) 22:35, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • We all agree that timothée is mostly american, this is his main country, no one can deny that. However, it cannot be denied either that his French culture seems very important and present to him, which is why I think it is fair to put A (I'm also ok with French and American actor)
(if it helps in your decision, he's also marked as being french-american in this article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_French_Americans) BahakFlo (talk) 23:14, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Semi-protected edit request on 14 April 2023

Ann5623 (talk) 02:07, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Born in Mount Sini West, New York, NY.

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Lightoil (talk) 03:13, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

UNICEF correction

I corrected that UNICEF stands for United Nations Children's Fund--it is not United Nations Children's EMERGENCY Fund--and it was reverted. Why? What the heck is going on? If one goes to the program's page, it is clear that my correction was appropriate. 173.90.75.20 (talk) 02:18, 15 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed. Restored your edit. Nardog (talk) 02:25, 15 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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