Talk:Joseph Goebbels

I have removed NSDAP

Regarding this edit. The abbreviation NSDAP is not in common use. It's better in my opinion to clearly show that Goebbels was a member of the Nazi Party, so in my opinion piping the wikilink to display "NSDAP" is inappropriate. It masks the fact that he was a member of the Nazi Party, that's the term that's in common use now. Comments welcome— Diannaa (talk) 04:35, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

The most common term in academia is: National Socialist Party, with About 1,620,000 results, while Nazi party gets about About 555,000 results. and NSDAP gets about 84,300 results. Hardyplants (talk) 07:21, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

WP:GOOGLEHITS can be misleading, and you've used it incorrectly. "Nazi party" gets only 60,600 results.[1] versus 83,000 for "NSDAP".[2] Actually, NSDAP is commonly used by people interested in the subject, not least because of the plethora of Nazi parties around the world. I do understand that mass media, especially outside Europe, are forced to use simplest terms possible ("Nazi party", "Nazi Germany", etc.); here in Europe, people know pretty well what NSDAP, Third Reich, etc., stand for. — kashmīrī ^TALK 12:05, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

I agree that WP:GOOGLEHITS can be misleading BUT google scholar is a different kettle of fish, it indexes academic works, one can do the same search on JSTOR and get same results. Hardyplants (talk) 20:57, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

I should add that they referred to themselves as national socialists and never as Nazi which was a derogatory term, which they deservedly earned with all their vileness.Hardyplants (talk)

Common Name in English should be used, not to mention that we write for the general public; therefore, Nazi Party should be used. Kierzek (talk) 02:57, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

References

Inaccurate information

I don’t know how to edit this thing, but I’m pretty sure Anthony Fauci wasn’t involved in the third reich. 2601:190:8201:7960:AD00:8309:48BE:A992 (talk) 00:52, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

That piece of vandalism seems to have been undone, thanks. If you're interested in perhaps taking care of stuff like this yourself, I recommend checking out the help pages about Contributing to Wikipedia and Editing, which offer a pretty good starting point for new editors. INDT (talk) 07:01, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

The edit was undone only 5 minutes after it was made, and almost one hour before the IP posted here. Meters (talk) 07:13, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

Mistresses

The article is currently written in a way that leaves an impression that unlike the pre-1928 period, in the 1930s he didn't have extramarital affairs except for the Lida Baarova. However, in fact he didn't just have quite a few mistresses, but at least one of them was underage, and later even started spying for the Axis in Hawaii along with her whole family. [3] I believe it is notable enough to warrant the inclusion, but colleagues Lectonar and Diannaa revert my edits. Ain92 (talk) 09:46, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

I just reverted because of the first source used, as I do not consider daydaynews to be a reliable source, but left it alone after a different and better source had been used. I don't think the affair and subsequent spying are terribly important or relevant, but won't get in a huff over inclusion or non-inclusion. Lectonar (talk) 10:10, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

The point that he had several mistresses would be better covered by finding a source that says that rather than including a single random person. Manvell and Fraenkel mention "occasional affaires with actresses and society women" on pp 167-168 and says on page 169 that Magda asked her to "remain the mistress like the rest of Goebells' women". So I have added a bit to the article. I will have a look at Longerich when I get to work and see if the point is also covered in that book. I am not too keen to use content from Al Cimino's book, he writes sensationalistic stuff with titles like "Nazi Sex Spies" and "Evil Serial Killers". Doesn't look like a high-quality scholarly source to me. — Diannaa (talk) 15:03, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

"Dr josep goebbles" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Dr josep goebbles and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 10#Dr josep goebbles until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Loafiewa (talk) 20:44, 10 November 2022 (UTC)

Hitler's jail term

Evans 2003 says on page 194 that Hitler was arrested on November 11, 1923 (two days after the putsch). The trial started on 26 February 1924 (Evans 2003, page 195), but there's no indication that he was released on bail. He remained in jail throughout. He was released on 20 December 1924. "He still had almost four years of his sentence to run" (Evans 2003, page 199). — Diannaa (talk) 20:46, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

unnecessity of biological racism

> Despite his extreme antisemitism, Goebbels spoke of the "rubbish of race-materialism" and of the unnecessity of biological racism for the Nazi ideology. He also described Himmler's ideology as "in many regards, mad" and thought Alfred Rosenberg's theories were ridiculous.

- Um... so is that why there is no mention of "The Eternal Jew (film) and The movie Jud Süß?

פשוט pashute ♫ (talk) 21:38, 11 July 2023 (UTC)