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Original police report was claimed to be 30 people, not 5, not 34, not 36

The record is online but is mentioned several times here along with one person who broke down and told interrogator what they wanted.

https://www.insider.com/ghislaine-maxwell-testimony-jeffrey-epstein-released-2020-10?back=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Fsearch%3Fclient%3Dsafari%26as_qdr%3Dall%26as_occt%3Dany%26safe%3Dactive%26as_q%3DEpstein+trial+testimony%26channel%3Daplab%26source%3Da-app1%26hl%3Den

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Inthe section "Early life

Epstein's childhood neighborhood of Sea Gate, Brooklyn Jeffrey Edward Epstein was born on January 20, 1953, in the Brooklyn borough of New York City. His parents Pauline "Paula" Stolofsky (1918–2004)[23] <------

Reference #23 for his mother Paula, links to my Geni.com webpage. Paula was my great aunt. I prefer the reference to the link be eliminated. It doesn't serve the greater good to know that Paula's dates of birth and death were pulled from my family's private genealogical webpage (geni.com). Unfortunately, geni.com will make public the profile data for deceased individuals and that can't be controlled via my privacy settings.

Please remove reference [23] in the pasted section above (bold and italicized) , along with the referenced item at the bottom of the page

Dantus, Larry (July 6, 2019). "Pauline Epstein (Stolofsky)". Geni. Archived from the original on July 15, 2019.

My family prefers to not advertise the connection

Thanks!

Thanks! Larryd517 (talk) 14:00, 3 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

.Why is there a section on Trump? There is no section on Clinton. It feels as if the typical editor on Wikipedia just cannot help themselves. According to the files released on 1/2/24 Trump was not the monster that Wikipedia tries to make him out to be. And according to the Article, the Judge tossed the case as without merit. I request that section be taken out, OR, Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew and others be added as sections as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:8080:3E00:671:5C55:2544:79BC:5A91 (talk) 03:08, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done – as an unreliable source anyway (see WP:RS/P#Geni.com) when the information is already found in the reference at the end of that sentence I see no reason not to remove it. Tollens (talk) 22:22, 3 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Possible Development

There's supposed to be a development soon according to Judge Loretta Preska. Depending on the amount of information that will be revealed, how should we fit it into this article?

https://apnews.com/article/jeffrey-epstein-ghislaine-maxwell-virginia-giuffre-3af500d4788ad45301be426628846d71 Cahlin29 (talk) 21:03, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's best to wait until the documents are released. As the AP story points out, they are unlikely to contain much that we don't know already, despite receiving a good deal of hype.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 21:33, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relationship to Mossad/Intelligence

Shouldn't Epstein's possible connection to secret services/Mossad at least be mentioned. Numerous sources have reported on this.

This is probably more than just a vague rumour. Former US Attorney General Alexander Acosta is quoted here: "Epstein [belonged to intelligence]".--Afus199620 (talk) 19:02, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Is he not Jewish? So why no JEWISH category

It strikes me as odd that I have never been to a bio and found a famous/rich/notable Jewish person who has not been over tagged with Jewish American, Jewish people of the 21st century, Jewish businesspeople, Jewish people of Italian descent, Jewish authors, Jews from Eastern Europe. Jews who are vegan, Jews who play jazz, Jews who are anti-Zionist, But when it comes to something like this Not one single Jewish category. Not ONE! Amazing Let the evidence speak for itself. The omission is startling. Hausa warrior (talk) 07:33, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And what is the evidence telling you? What is it evidence of? Nomoskedasticity (talk) 07:53, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What is the evidence telling me? WHy dont you do your job and go and add some? --Hausa warrior (talk) 09:21, 7 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia has become just propaganda and I'm saying that a Jew 149.19.46.22 (talk) 22:54, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We need to make it clear that he is 100% Ashkenazi Jew the way other articles on Wikipedia emphasize it. Wikipedia is supposed to be the free and open exchange of information ...... Isn't it? 149.19.46.112 (talk) 23:20, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I see there's finally one category. Compare this to (random example) Seth Rogen with SIXTEEN categories intersecting his religion/ethnicity. I don't usually edit on anything to do with America or Jews, but from what I've seen on other pages, people are usually rushing to add descent categories to "good people". Why so quiet here? I barely log in without seeing IPs and new accounts claiming European people of colour for their ancestral country, or saying that regional ethnicity outweighs the national citizenship. Look at how big Category:Jewish scientists is. Of course Judaism is relevant to Einstein, who was persecuted by Nazis, and it's relevant to anyone who said the Torah inspired them to do science, but who can say that Henri Atlan's Judaism was relevant to his science? Fun fact: what publication is cherry picking that Epstein met with Noam Chomsky, Ehud Barak and a Rothschild? The Daily Stormer? No, the Jewish Telegraphic Agency! Who thinks it's worth a headline that Epstein ate kosher food in jail, therefore being a practicing Jew? Is it Stormfront? No, it's The Jewish Chronicle! Unknown Temptation (talk) 20:41, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I would like to change "Jeffrey Edward Epstein (/ˈɛpstiːn/ EP-steen;[1] January 20, 1953 – August 10, 2019) was a Jewish-American financier and sex offender." to "Jeffrey Edward Epstein (/ˈɛpstiːn/ EP-steen;[1] January 20, 1953 – August 10, 2019) was an American financier and sex offender."

Being Jewish is not a nationality and shouldn't be referred to as such. Furthermore, his Jewish background is well stated immediately in the next section, so to mention his nationality as Jewish-American seems dubious and inaccurate. Inesaclt (talk) 10:46, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it is contrary to the manual of style and disruptive. I’ve warned the editor who added it and removed the edit. Acroterion (talk) 12:17, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We need to make it clear that he is 100% Ashkenazi Jew the way other articles on Wikipedia emphasize it. Wikipedia is supposed to be the free and open exchange of information ...... Isn't it? 149.19.46.112 (talk) 23:23, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Link to associates main article

There is a small paragraph on the ruling to release Epstein's associates list by January 2024, but no link to the Jeffrey Epstein's associates list Wikipedia page itself. Shouldn't that be added? Rerbun (talk) 12:41, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It was deleted via discussion, so there's no link. Acroterion (talk) 13:02, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]