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UR MR. GAY
It has been a while since this topic has been brought up. When the topic was last discussed in 2007, there were no reliable sources. However, I have found some sources that mention "UR MR. GAY" after the release of Super Mario Galaxy 2 on Destructoid and Escapist Magazine due to Galaxy 2's alleged "response message", "YA IM R U?". I have also found a source from Engadget from 2007 which points the source of the topic to NeoGAF. Yoshiman6464 ♫🥚 18:36, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
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Released for Nvidia shield in China
Should this information be added to the article? It was released today in China in 1080p thanks to a deal between Nvidia and Nintendo.[1]
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@Harimua Thailand: the game is only known as "Super Mario Wii" in South Korea. In most other countries the game is titled "Super Mario Galaxy" and since this is a much more common name the article should use this title. Jc86035 (talk) 07:08, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
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What should we link to in the "External links" section: [1], [2] or [3]? All three are official sites of the game. Glades12 (talk) 12:21, 1 July 2020 (UTC) The current link is 3, though it's now dead and archived. 12:23, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
English
I think this article shoub in American english like other Mario and Japan articles because this game has nothing to do with the UK. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.185.203.161 (talk) 02:19, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
A serious proposal to incorporate 'U R MR GAY'
The flag at the top of the talk page indicating that 'U R MR GAY' has been determined to be non-notable by consensus seems to have been added in 2007, and I think circumstances have changed such that briefly mentioning it under legacy or something would be appropriate. 'U R MR GAY' has sustained coverage by many established and reliable sources, such as Kotaku, Joystiq (now hosted by Engadget), GamesRadar, all of which were published in 2007 around when the game was published, and the topic resurfaced in 2010 when the sequel was released, and was covered by Kotaku again, Eurogamer (spanish edition), Destructoid, The Escapist, and in addendum to being covered by gaming news, it was also covered by two Spanish newspapers: El País and 20 minutos. Previous discussions have failed to establish notability in reliable sources, but I think that per the sources provided, it should be incorporated. I also think that previous discussions focused more on the juvenile nature of the meme, and whether internet memes have a place on Wikipedia rather than a discussion of notability.
Some additional sources that came up but I felt weren't reliable include JeuxActu, Blast Magazine, and Unnützes Wissen für Gamer: 555 verrückte Fakten über Videospiele (English: Useless Knowledge for Gamers: 555 Ridiculous Facts About Videogames), a 2017 German book that strikes me as about as 'useful' as any other 'gamer fact' book, but worth noting as it shows 'U R MR GAY' in print media.
@Yoshiman6464: @ThomasO1989: @Jaguar: @TheDisneyGamer: @Tom.Reding: @TheJoebro64: To help facilitate discussion, I've pinged users who have made significant contributions to the article, as well as Yoshiman6464, who previously brought up sources that could be incorporated regarding the meme. Waxworker (talk) 10:56, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
- Please forgive me for being brutally honest, but I don't want to cheapen this article by giving credence to a juvenile and frivolous meme. Its coverage doesn't serve as a reflection of worth or notability ― if anything it's a testament to the state of video game journalism. ♦ jaguar 23:17, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Waxworker: Given the limited responses, it may worth considering an RfC for wider input. Spy-cicle💥 Talk? 21:34, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
English
Why this article in written in stinking crappy British English and DMY format, Should it be written in American English and MDY like all Mario articles? Heck, even the Simple English Wikipedia article has it written in American English.38.25.236.56 (talk) 04:45, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
- Per WP:ENGVAR, if there aren't important ties to the subject either way, you just stick with whatever version it was started/substantially written as. Sergecross73 msg me 12:50, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
- Just because this comes up so often, I actually checked. The article was originally written with MDY dates, and to choose a substantial milestone, was still written with MDY dates upon the game's NA release. I'm not going to bisect the history and figure out when the dates changed, and I personally don't care that much, but if we're going to apply WP:ENGVAR, then let's apply it. Orange Suede Sofa (talk) 18:43, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
- I'm just talking in a general sense here, no idea if it's being followed. I'm simply staying it has nothing to do with anything that IP was going off about. My personal stance is that it simply does not matter - Galaxy is a massive global title with no notational ties to either style of English. Sergecross73 msg me 19:18, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
- Just because this comes up so often, I actually checked. The article was originally written with MDY dates, and to choose a substantial milestone, was still written with MDY dates upon the game's NA release. I'm not going to bisect the history and figure out when the dates changed, and I personally don't care that much, but if we're going to apply WP:ENGVAR, then let's apply it. Orange Suede Sofa (talk) 18:43, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
- This would be perfect for r/ShitAmericansSay. LilianaUwU (talk / contributions) 01:30, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
- So i asked ChatGPT why this article was written in British English and this is what i've told:
"User Hello, Why the Super Mario Galaxy Wikipedia article was written in British English even though the game has nothing to do with the UK.
ChatGPT The language style used in Wikipedia articles can vary depending on the preferences of the editors who contribute to them. Wikipedia encourages a neutral point of view and aims to be inclusive of various English language variations. As an international project, Wikipedia allows for both British English and American English, among other variations, to be used in its articles.
The choice of using British English in the Super Mario Galaxy Wikipedia article might have been made by the editors who initially created and developed the article. These editors could have been more familiar with British English conventions or simply preferred to use that style. It's important to note that Wikipedia is a collaborative platform, and articles are continually edited and updated by volunteers from around the world.
While Super Mario Galaxy itself is not directly related to the UK, the choice of language style in the article is more likely a reflection of the preferences of the editors involved rather than any specific connection to the game. It's worth noting that the use of British English on Wikipedia articles is not limited to topics directly associated with the UK, and it's a common practice to have articles in various English language variations to accommodate the global nature of the project."38.25.164.164 (talk) 12:26, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
- ChatGPT is right, and it's not giving any reason to switch it over to American English. It's more likely that the user(s) who worked really hard to bring this article up to FA-status preferred to write in British English, and it's quite disheartening to have users complain about the use of DMY dates just because they don't like it. ThomasO1989 (talk) 16:20, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
- ChatGPT isn't right, as I have shown above that BrEng was not used by the editors who initially created and developed the article. Anyway, it's fun to see people come in and blindly quote a policy without regard to the facts and then another accusing people of WP:IDONTLIKEIT. Maybe WP:IAR would have been a less personal guideline to throw around. Orange Suede Sofa (talk) 00:28, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
- Looking at the page milestones, it simply looks like it got switched during the efforts to finally pass its GA nomination. It was American English for its multiple failed GA attempts, and British English when it finally passed in 2016. It's nothing to get upset about or consult Chat GPT about (???), it just appears the person who finally got the article into decent shape writes in British English. I highly doubt the person who wrote that initial thoughtless comment was thinking of any of this, it was just idle complaining. Sergecross73 msg me 00:49, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
- I asked ChatGPT this question:
- "Does that making the Super Mario Galaxy Wikipedia article in British English while other Mario articles in American English mean that Wikipedia users don't care about consistency?"
- And this is what ChatGPT told me:
- "The choice to use different variants of English in different articles on Wikipedia is typically not a reflection of users not caring about consistency. Wikipedia is a collaborative platform where users from all around the world contribute and edit articles. As a result, there can be variations in writing style, including the use of different English variants.
- Wikipedia aims to be a comprehensive and neutral source of information, and it does have guidelines in place regarding the use of English variants. The choice of variant often depends on the article's subject matter, the location or context of the topic, or the preferences of the editors involved.
- For example, the decision to use British English for the Super Mario Galaxy article while other Mario articles use American English could be due to the game being developed by a Japanese company (Nintendo) and the influence of British English in certain regions where the game may have been particularly popular. It may have been a conscious choice by the editors to reflect these factors.
- While consistency is generally encouraged on Wikipedia, it is also important to accommodate different contributors and respect the diversity of users on the platform. If there are concerns about consistency or discrepancies, it is possible to engage in discussions on the article's talk page to reach a consensus on the appropriate language variant to be used." EquestriaGirlsFan2003 (talk) 20:28, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
- Looking at the page milestones, it simply looks like it got switched during the efforts to finally pass its GA nomination. It was American English for its multiple failed GA attempts, and British English when it finally passed in 2016. It's nothing to get upset about or consult Chat GPT about (???), it just appears the person who finally got the article into decent shape writes in British English. I highly doubt the person who wrote that initial thoughtless comment was thinking of any of this, it was just idle complaining. Sergecross73 msg me 00:49, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
- ChatGPT isn't right, as I have shown above that BrEng was not used by the editors who initially created and developed the article. Anyway, it's fun to see people come in and blindly quote a policy without regard to the facts and then another accusing people of WP:IDONTLIKEIT. Maybe WP:IAR would have been a less personal guideline to throw around. Orange Suede Sofa (talk) 00:28, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
- Unless you can demonstate that Galaxy is specific US ties to be written in American English than there is no reason to change it away from British English per WP:ENGVAR. Spy-cicle💥 Talk? 23:49, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
- I think some are arguing that someone actually violated ENGVAR long ago when they changed it from American to British. Which may be technically true, but probably not pursuing considering it's been stable at British for 6-7 years and has no particular ties to either. Sergecross73 msg me 01:59, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
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