Talk:Assassin's Creed (video game)/Archive 2

PEGI Rating

It is confirmed to be a PEGI 18+ rating, but i cannot find a solid citation, 'twas in an email from ubisoft. anyone got one? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lordgod666 (talk • contribs) 12:31, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Add: "In one city, you have 60. And multiply that times three, plus there are 420 different flags to be found and 60 Templar Knights to kill. There's a lot of stuff." - Patrice Desilets —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.116.232.44 (talk) 00:03, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

This good enough? [1]

--User:Kai81123 11:52, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

November 9

There are two reliable and respected sources (Eurogamer and Joystiq) stating that its release is November 9. Indeed, the Eurogamer article states they were contacted by Ubisoft because the dates for Haze were incorrect. Wouldn't Ubisoft also have told them if Assassin's Creed was incorrect? As long as the sources are there, and remain Nov 9, that's what the release date should be. If Ubisoft come out and say it's not November 9, and someone can provide a source, that's fine, but at the moment, Eurogamer and Joystiq are what we have to go on. Fin©™ 23:36, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

The problem is, they're not Ubisoft. They can say whatever they like, but it doesn't make it fact. Yesterday at E3 Jade Raymond stated that they don't have a finalized release date yet. Thus, that's what we have to go on, and not rumours.68.161.107.165 02:41, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Play.com uses November 9th as the UK release date. That's three reliable sources. I think it's enough to put in the article.

~~Lazyguythewerewolf . Rawr. 21:59, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

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Release Date

[2] says this game is out on September 7... true or not?

Amazon is known to post release-date estimates to increase pre-orders. Take it with a grain of salt and wait for the game to actually go gold. --Brad Beattie (talk) 23:42, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Especially considering that Ubi has come out and said that the game's being released in November...68.161.53.160 11:50, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

I have a confirmed release date of November 15th from my video game distributor. Anyone else find any reliable release dates?Zemalia 17:54, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

The most common date that I've seen used is November 13, 2007. That or about that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.45.66.201 (talk) 17:51, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

There is no "confirmed" release date by UBI as of yet. 68.199.159.101 14:49, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Confirmed for Nov 13 by IGN http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/35048/Jades-Ass-Has-Gone-Gold John.n-irl 19:21, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

172.202.164.210 15:16, 8 November 2007 (UTC)nov 16

Freeroam?

on assassinscreed.com it states the release date is november 14 Is this game freeroam or a level system?

I believe it is level based, as there are three cities, but within the level, it is freeroam. J-stan ^Talk 02:33, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, it probably is. Nine assassinations = nine levels, with free-roam throughout the city during each hit. --Alas, Babylon 05:27, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

I know for a fact you can "leave" a city, and there is an interment "journey" level that leads to, acre, Damascus,Jerusalem, and the assassin stronghold of the, the "travel" level, is from what i have seen....Large, like woah large, and it definetly requires a horse.

I believe you can gain upgrades, but to purchase/apply them you have to return to the stronghold, there is also the neccesity to gather something from one city and travel to another.

It in no way staples you to any said city at any time, even if your "hit" is in Damascus, there is nothing to stop you from riding your horse anywhere the hell you please.

Well, yeah, we saw that in that very first game-play demo, when our “hitman” rode a horse into… Acre, wasn’t it? And, dude chill out. It’s like you took a moral offense to a simple mistake, jeez. --Alas, Babylon 19:36, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

People take too much offense to far too rediculous reasons. It's just something us smart people learn to forget. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.80.151.172 (talk) 15:18, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Archived

I have made a first archive containing 30 posts. Everyone ok with that? -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 12:27, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Religion/Spirituality Paragraph

Please stop deleting my contribution to this paragraph, whoever you are. It's very irritating. What I said improved the paragraph and is the truth, whether you like it or not.

Razoroo 20:19, 13 August 2007 (UTC)Razoroo

To me it seems that you don't like that Altair's probable muslim orientation isn't mentioned. For the game and it's further background story it's simply irrelevant whether he is muslim or not. You didn't post any reference to your statement so this contingency is no more than speculation. I don't understand why you claim on having that religious thing included as it's mentioned before that Altair's not that religious. --ColdCut0815 22:08, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Why don't you at least bring up a reference if you wish to include such a statement. Unless you can do that, it's worthless.

This is the same discussion I have been having on various Gamespot.com forums with other ignorant people. It doesn't matter if he is religious or not; I'm simply saying by birth that he is a Muslim. I'm contributing to the paragraph by giving people further information on his background, and I know that I'm right. I don't need proof or a link or reference and even if Ubisoft never stated exactly what Altair's religion is, it simply must be Islam. I understand that Altair is not religious; neither am I, but I'm still a Muslim. The fact that he's Muslim may not be important to some people, but it is to me and many others, so I'm simply catering to their information needs. I'll say it again; I know I am right, Altair IS a Muslim because he wouldn't even be allowed to join the Hashshashin. Just leave that sentence, it's not going to kill anyone. Razoroo 16:58, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Until Ubisoft or Ubisoft Montreal or any of the development staff reveals that Altair is muslim it's simply speculation and it doesn't matter if it's logically consistent or not. Appreciate that without any source that sais he is it's just a guess.

Note the sentence that sais: Please do not add speculation to this article, and remember to cite a published source for details. --ColdCut0815 17:15, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes that's right - it's speculation, even if it seems obvious to you it still counts as original research.87.102.66.173 17:37, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Remember that the 'altair' is a character in a game, not a real person.87.102.66.173 17:37, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Right.But IF Altair's not a muslim then it's not realistic.Because the Hashashin only accept Shi'ite Muslim.They hate both Sunni(Saladin and his loyal army) and the Crusaders.But the hate Saladin much more.That's true right?Fanatic terrorist 07:06, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

You need to ask either on Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Humanities or try the Hashashin page. Lots of parts of the game are intended to be realistic - but it's just a game - it's inrealistic to expect it to be 100% accurate because then it wouldn't be a game but a documentary (see next section)87.102.92.28 12:02, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Razoroo, so far it seems that this is only important to you, and you alone. It adds nothing to article, and is pure speculation. You saying that you know you're right adds nothing to your argument. The way that Wikipedia is supposed to work, is that whatever anyone writes in, has to be supported by a published source. Whether you're Muslim or not, whether you're a Scholar of Islam, regardless of what you are, you still have to have SOME kind of reference. If you find some published source that clearly states that the Hashshashin only took in Muslim, then we can add something to that extent. 162.83.255.39 12:10, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Not even then. The publisher, developer oder designers have to reveal that the character of Altair is muslim. Otherwise it would just be a presumption. --ColdCut0815 13:14, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Basically, I don't have a reference or proof that Altair is supposed to be Muslim. The Hashashin page states that they were Shia Muslims from the Isma'ili Nizrali sect, or something like that. This implies that there were no other religions who were part of it. It was a cult that stemmed from Islamic beliefs and the belief that Sunni Muslims were evil, as were other propergators of the Crusades. Therefore, other religions were not allowed to join. There are books that go into more detail about this but it would be foolish to go through them all just to find something that will allow me to post that one little sentence. No, Ubisoft hasn't certified that he is a Muslim. Nor do they have to. He looks Arab, he has an Arabic name, his father at least is Muslim. He not only reached "Master" rank in the Hashashin, but he was actually allowed to join in. All this is proof that he is supposed to be a Muslim. If Ubisoft don't say anything about religion, then it can be safely assumed that he is Muslim. There is no other answer. If they say he's "more spiritual rather than religious" then it doesn't mean he is NOT a Muslim. Just means that he'd rather not let religion govern the way he lives. He can still be a Muslim (a poor one perhaps) but be spiritual. All this business about needing reference etc is, I think, just an excuse because some people refuse to acknowledge that they are playing as "one of those pesky Moslems". They don't like the idea of it. We (Muslims) don't get positive protagonists in games or films. Please let us have this one little thing. I'm contributing to the article by giving people information. I'm still saying he's spiritual etc, don't worry. But does it hurt to admit he is most certainly a Muslim BY BIRTH? Some people need that info. And I know I'm right. Just please leave that sentence alone, forget protocol or all this reference crap; it IS the truth. Razoroo 14:39, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

I think the answer is no (and please don't keep adding it back in (see three revert rule) - I don't think anyone is seriously doubting your logic - the point is that

a. The infomation must be verifyable - not original research see Wikipedia:No_original_research, and Wikipedia:Verifiability quote "The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth" - that is the basic answer.

b. As I've said before the game is 'historical fantasy' - therfor it does not need, nor should be assumed to follow historical precedents.

Note: the game is just that - a game - and will be designed to appeal to the widest possibile audience - and as such should attempt not to alienate any section of the potential buying market. This could be why the main character is supposed to come from a mixed religion marriage and has no particular faith of his own...87.102.92.28 15:13, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

IMPORTANT - MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS If you read about the speculation about the 'genetic memory' and 'time travel' aspects of this game you may discover that it is not neccessary for the main character to be a muslim at all - if you consider that he has to infiltrate the hashashinin to become an assasin so that he can kill various characters who will sow seeds of trouble for the future....THIS INFO NOT GUARANTEED CORRECT DO NOT REED UNLESS YOU DO NOT MIND READING SPECULATION ABOUT THE PLOT87.102.92.28 15:25, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

By your logic, Razoroo, we can say that he is also a Christian by birth since his mother was Christian. The Wiki article only says that they were an Ismaili sect. It doesn't say anywhere that only Muslims were allowed. Besides that, the fact that he is Half Muslim and Half Christian goes to further disprove your argument. I don't think that having mentioned in a Wikipedia article that there is a Muslim protagonist matters that much to the majority of the Muslim world. You have an agenda, get off it already. 162.83.255.39 15:44, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Actually the plot revolves around a group of scientists who trace someone's genetic memory to that of his ancestor (Altair). This means that Altair lived during the Crusades and had his own life. He was a member of the Hashashin, he wasn't trying to infiltrate it by pretending to be one of them. He already was. Someone else in the modern day or future is seeing the events of that period through his ancestors eyes. Secondly, Altair's father would very unlikely allow his son to be Christian. This isn't that important though. Thirdly, all Isma'ili's were Shia Muslims. The term refers to an off-shoot tribe of Muslims. Razoroo 15:57, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

ok thanks for that info.87.102.92.28 16:06, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I've come to a decision that should please you haters. I'll stop adding that sentence (which btw, I have ready to simply copy and paste anytime). The reason I won't continue to add that sentence is because it's a pain and its easier for someone to simply delete it. Having said that, I still don't agree with any of this, I believe it should be allowed in despite there being no confirmation from Ubisoft or the lovely Jade Raymond. But, when the game comes out, and if there is proof in the game or from Ubisoft that he is Muslim (for example, if he reveals it during a conversation or if you see him do certain Muslim actions), then I'll come back to this discussion board and demand that you all eat your hats. After this, I will create a new forum topic on Gamespot.com entitled "I BLOODY TOLD YOU SO!" and then proceed to insult everyone who went against me. If I'm wrong, and he turns out to be a scientologist, buddhist or anything else....I will place myself in exile and eat all of your hats for you. Razoroo 16:10, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

No, Ubisoft hasn't certified that he is a Muslim. Nor do they have to. He looks Arab, he has an Arabic name, his father at least is Muslim.

Right. Ubi has not to certify that Altair's muslim. Perhaps because it's irrelevant for the game itself, perhaps because they want to keep a balance between players of both (christian/muslim) religions. After all it's all about sold copies and the money. Did you put this quite real aspect into consideration already? With his clothes Alatir looks like an eagle (Jade Raymond), his name is arabic for 'the flier' (kinda fact) so he MUST be an eagle... or at least a bird. Is that your way of argumentation? Sounds ridiculous? Well, it is! Both!

If Ubisoft don't say anything about religion, then it can be safely assumed that he is Muslim.

So if they don't say no it's a yes? Ridiculous as well...

All this business about needing reference etc is, I think, just an excuse because some people refuse to acknowledge that they are playing as "one of those pesky Moslems".

All this business about needing reference, published sources and quotations are the basics of they way that a wikipedia works. Get used to it... No problem with playing a muslim, a jew, a hindu (India's videogame industry is growing larger quickly, btw) in a video game. It would be wrong as well to add the presumption that Altair could be christian because of his christian mother or because the mysterious group of scientists in the sci-fi-twist could be a christian group. For me in special it simply doesn't matter which religion a video game character belongs to, btw.

We (Muslims) don't get positive protagonists in games or films. Please let us have this one little thing.

Awww, poor muslims... Because of this it is such important to have an 'information' about the belief of a video game character in an online encyclopedia like wp is? As I said before... RIDICULOUS

Some people need that info. And I know I'm right.

What kind of people do need that info? Except you... It simply doesn't matter if you think you know you're right. Do you know how many people think or thought they are or were right and simply were not?

Just please leave that sentence alone, forget protocol or all this reference crap; it IS the truth.

Forget protocol and all this ref crap? A wikipedia founds on this, that IS the truth.

I'll stop adding that sentence (which btw, I have ready to simply copy and paste anytime). The reason I won't continue to add that sentence is because it's a pain and its easier for someone to simply delete it.

It is as easy for you to simply undo changes of others. But if this is too much efford, it's okay. By now we know life isn't that easy for you as a muslim.

But, when the game comes out, and if there is proof in the game or from Ubisoft that he is Muslim (for example, if he reveals it during a conversation or if you see him do certain Muslim actions), then I'll come back to this discussion board and demand that you all eat your hats.

Poor boy. I don't wear hats nor I do possess any...

After this, I will create a new forum topic on Gamespot.com entitled "I BLOODY TOLD YOU SO!" and then proceed to insult everyone who went against me.

And after that you'll start a nother Jihad, put on your bombsuit, catch the next tram and shout Allah akbar?

/ Keep prejudical behaviour out of the discussion. According to Islam it is NOT allowed to purposedly endanger other beings, nor kill yourself. It's ridicolous to put fanatic behaviour as a standard and general description of a religion. It's like saying that all christains are murderers who force people to their beliefs because fanatics of their religion has done that at times in history. While I think this discussion is ridicolous and plain dumb, there is no need to go generalising and prejudical. As for the non-religious "muslim" in this discussion, to be a muslim, YOU NEED TO BE RELIGIOUS and follow the religious 'treats', not be born a muslim. Wikipedia still builds on facts, not personal opinions. / —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.255.135.247 (talk) 10:31, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

After this, I will create a new forum topic on Gamespot.com entitled "I BLOODY TOLD YOU SO!" and then proceed to insult everyone who went against me.

Sounds kinda fanatic, doesn't it? Seriously, no one generalised fanatic behaviour as normal for any religion in this discussion. But as you should know the islam nowadays is used by lots of dumb people to justify their suicide attacks, no matter what you say... ColdCut0815 12:31, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

If I'm wrong, and he turns out to be a scientologist, buddhist or anything else....I will place myself in exile and eat all of your hats for you.

And then proceed as I mentioned before, please. Seriously, you should be the last one who is allowed to edit any paragraph on wikipedia. You're making your whole religion ridiculous (yes, my favorite word on this one) with your statements. --ColdCut0815 20:04, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm making my religion ridiculous? How so? As a non-Muslim, I don't expect you to understand how important that small fact is. As I said, I won't edit the article anymore so what's the point of you continuing to bother me? Leave it out. Razoroo 21:23, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

I think even as a muslim I wouldn't understand your motivation to act like this. It's just about pointing out how... let me think... ridiculous this is. Peace out. --ColdCut0815 00:33, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Hey Razoroo, I thought you would quit making that edits. You're the only one who sees the need for such an edit...enough already. It's becoming pathetic now. Are Muslims really that insecure that they need a sentence on Wikipedia giving the possibility of a main character being Muslim, to make them feel better? That's the impression you give off. Stop it. Just because you "know you're right" doesn't mean we have to agree with you. Guess what? We don't. Wikipedia has clearly set protocols that help prevent irresponsible edits such as yours. Going by your logic, I can say that I know I'm the king of England, without any proof, simply because I know I'm right. Drop your agenda already! 162.83.255.39 06:25, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Personally, I think altair is an athiest, heh, deal with it. 125.238.2.25 01:01, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Bottom line: Razoroo has agreed to stop editing the article with his beliefs until further proof is released. No further discussion is needed as this is turning into an argument over something which has already been solved.GBobly 08:54, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Razoroo's deductions are correct actually. Unfortunately, Razoroo, this is an Article about a yet to be released game, and therefore deductions are irrelevant as one must stick exactly to what the developers of the game have confirmed. To all Muslims it is obvious a child born to a Muslim father will be considered Muslim, even if he does not practice. If you really want to express this you can simply add it to an article about Islam. This however cannot be applied to an unreleased game as it is just creative material and they can do whatever they wish with (Their excellent developers by the way, trust them!). And mainly the general rule for unreleased games is if it is not confirmed by the Developers, it should not be stated, as Gamers know very well nothing is set in stone until after the release. I am also not sure why you are so adamant about making this a fact. I am Arab Muslim and surely it cannot be this important to you to make sure everyone knows a game character is Muslim, lol. And please ColdCut don't ever insinuate someone is making his entire religion ridiculous for then you and 'your religion' would be just as ridiculous in pursuing the argument. Such a deduction is far more 'ridiculous' than Razoroo's. And yes, the religious disposition of the characters is important as it relates directly to the setting of the game. I assume in the end it will be left open-ended for the player to believe what he wishes about Al'ta'ir. 65.81.3.222 11:17, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, actually I don't follow any religion at all... ColdCut0815 23:55, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Hashashim was a Muslim terrorist organization. I guess none of you mind, couple hundred years from now, some kids are playing a game based on AlQaeda. First person Osama Bin Laden shooter. Oh I get it, it is UbiSoft CANADA. They are real pro-muslim over there in Ca-Na-Duh. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.106.248.211 (talk) 06:39, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

stuff

The article is rather full of stuff for a game not yet released, and a lot of it is rather trivial, with a lot of expansion on the part of the writers of this page. Maybe someone would like to look at cutting it down a bit..87.102.66.173 17:52, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

the religion of the main character

I removed this " although it can be presumed that he is Muslim by birth. The evidence for this lies in the fact that all members of the Hashshashin were Muslim."

Remember this is not an exercise in logical thinking. The infomation in the article should directly relate to the game. Also see Wikipedia:No original research - although this may seem ridiculous to you - stating that altair is a muslim counts as original research since you've infered it and we don't have a reference.

I think it's important to remember that this is an imaginary character in a computer game - though we already have been given a lot of background on him, we have been told that he is spiritual. Remember that this is fiction - in fiction anything can happen - for all we know he could have secretly converted to judaism whilst in the hashinin. Anything is possible. Remember that this game is historical fantasy - and so do not have to follow the rules of the real world.87.102.5.166 21:18, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Right."Everything is not true.Everything is permitted." So killing the Hashashin leader too permitted?Fanatic terrorist 07:08, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

I've no idea - we'll probably just have to wait and see when the game comes out to find out what plot twists there are..87.102.92.28 12:04, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Limited Edition

Anyone know any info (confirmed) on the limited edition? What exactly will it include and does anyone have any pictures of the limited/special edition they can add to the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.45.43.68 (talk) 14:20, August 24, 2007 (UTC)

Also known as the collectors edition.. http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/1693.html http://ps3.qj.net/Assassin-s-Creed-Limited-Edition-finally-unveiled/pg/49/aid/99892 etc

Though the limited edition's gameplay content will be identical to that of the standard version, Assassin's Creed LE will boast a number of bonus supplemental content items. In addition to a specialized tin packaging, the game will also include a figurine of lead character Altair, Penny Arcade comics, a miniature strategy guide, and Assassin-themed short films. Behind-the-scenes videos, official trailers, developer diaries, producer interviews and other unnamed goodies are also planned. [3]

87.102.84.56 12:35, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

I added the information on the Limited Edition. Thanks to whom cleaned it up a bit. --~Voxx 22:45, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

PAX 2007

I just added a paragraph about PAX 2007. If anyone thinks that some of the grammar/info is off feel free to change it.70.107.181.28 20:53, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Assassins creed hud hd.jpg

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Protection

Since there is a lot of IP vandalism, I've made a WP:RPP report. J-ſtan^Talk_Contribs 23:18, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Not sure when you'll be un-locking this page for edits (or even where to ask this), but could you put a link to the Free Running pages on Wikipedia where they are referenced in the main page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by MikeAtWork (talk • contribs) 18:40, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

First of all, it will be unprotected in 3 months. Secondly, could you elaborate on that? J-ſtan^Talk_Contribs 18:46, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Genetic Memory Plot pic

Hello, everyone, an anon posted this on my talk page after I removed this picture: [4] The picture is tagged as "Public Domain" which is definetely not the case and no URL is given as a source.

how dare you take down that picture off of the assassin's creed page. people have the right to know. that is a nitrogen-oxygen heterocycle, and i want to know what its for. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.11.84.204 (talk) 07:00, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Hello, anon.

The picture you are referring to is tagged as "Public Domain". However, the copyright belongs to Ubisoft, therefore it cannot be tagged as "Public Domain" unless Ubisoft itself releases it as such. Making a screenshot of a copyrighted media does not make the creator of said screeny the copyright owner. You may want to consult Wikipedia:Fair_use for further information. The shadow woman is Jade Raymond from an interview (as seen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDWabHnSxtg here) - furthermore, Hydrogen can only connect twice, not thrice, as shown on the picture. I don't see how is any evidence for anything genetics-related. Best regards, --Plumcouch ^Talk2Me 15:04, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

I believe I did right, but in order to give everyone the opportunity to discuss this and to reach a consensus, I'll post it here. Best regards, --Plumcouch ^Talk2Me 15:10, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Agree - for now - when the game comes out maybe we'll know just how relevent this pic is.. I don't think it's important enough to merit 'fair use' - and the text explains the genetic memory but better than that pic.87.102.87.36 13:58, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

DS

The game will be on DS, too. It has been on store release lists for months, and Nintendo's new release lists include it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.118.216.61 (talk) 18:09, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for doing the research, but we need a link, or something else to prove this. J-ſtan^Talk_Contribs 18:12, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

http://press.nintendo.com/articles.jsp?id=13691 There's your proof right there at the bottom of the article. Gonna go ahead and add it to the list of platforms and releases okay? NinjaRooster 00:00, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

I don't know how to edit Wikipedia but the release date for Assassin's Creed in Nov 13 not the 22 of Sept. —Preceding unsigned comment added by CLevin124 (talk • contribs) 14:04, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Crossbow

I just downloaded a interview of jade raymond of market place and when she explains all the wepons the crossbow is not mentioned once, we should remove all information about it as it has likly been cut from the game.in fact ill do it myself Lord Cuthberton —Preceding comment was added at 19:15, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

there is acuatually a now solid release date its november 13 just check the site and other sites —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.156.59.201 (talk) 02:04, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Update Release Date, it has been changed to Nov. 16

www.assassinscreed.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.164.153.150 (talk) 04:24, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Try giving a link to the source, i cant find it on the page John.n-irl 20:30, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Gone Gold

"Gone Gold" is a reference to a point in the software development cycle. Not the number of copies sold. Take a look: [[5]] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Grimscythe (talk • contribs) 15:47, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Ok, so I was going by a different meaning of "gone gold". Either way, it's not really notable what specific day a game goes gold and the source website isn't particularly reliable either. Axem Titanium 21:13, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

I would disagree and say that since we have the date that it was delayed till 2008 on PC, it should be considered important news, what day the game has gone gold. And Gamernode is a fairly reliable website, especially when the news itself is coming from Ubisoft. Grimscythe 11:23, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

And for anyone that reads this for archival reasons, "going gold" is definitely a useful bit of information for any video game article JayKeaton 14:47, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Invisible walls/boundaries

Will there be invisible walls/boundaries? If they're not invisible, what will block the player from leaving the area? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Weeliljimmy (talk • contribs) 13:17, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a forum^DAVID _CAT 14:06, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Canadian Assassin's Creed contest "The Creed Challenge"

There is currently a contest running for Canadians called "The Creed Challenge"

You can play to win many prizes including the AC game, XBox 360 Elite consoles, and lots of other AC merchandise.

You can signup HERE to join as one of my personal referrals. Otherwise, the main site is HERE

The contest runs until November 16, 2007. Good luck to any and all.

JubbaTheHott 08:04, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

I won a $5000 computer! Go me! Still am only getting the game for Xbox 360... does the PC version have achievements? 142.165.59.39 00:24, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

New Australian release date.

I work at EB Games in New South Wales, Australia and we got an email saying that the natianal release date has been pushed back one day from the 15th of november to the 16th of November. I feel the page should be changed to reflect this. N.B. The official EB games website has not been changed yet to reflect this...so don't go there to verify this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.154.24.147 (talk) 08:07, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Strangely the article says neither the 15th or the 16th, it says the 14th for Australia JayKeaton 03:43, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Meaning....Wikipedia isn't always right you know. ;)It WAS the 15th, the 14th must have been an old release date that was never updated, and it recently got pushed back to the 16th. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.154.24.147 (talk) 07:44, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Speculation

I've removed some vaguely sourced speculation. I've retained actual sourced statements. --Tony Sidaway 19:19, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Canadian release date

on the Canadian best buy website it says Assassin's Creed releases on November 16th. is it really? J.C. 04:54, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, the article doesn't clearly define the Canadian release date. I do not know if Chanda has the same release dates as America or not. JayKeaton 06:16, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

i looked at Kane & Lynch: Dead Men on bestbuy.ca and it said it releases november 15th, a day after the U.S. release date. J.C. 06:34, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

But Assassin's Creed isn't Kane & Lynch.--User:Kai81123 12:16, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Wouldn't the official website have the North American release dates? It seems the only source is IGN on this wiki page, which seems dubious at best. I'm at work so I'm unable to check gaming sites (Wiki, thankfully is cool ☻), but you'd figure the best source would be an official one. American and Canadian release dates are usually the same. - Louis 167.1.143.100 17:38, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Japanese release

I noticed the Japanese official site for AC makes no mention of a PS3 release and even heads: "Assassin's Creed (Xbox 360)". Will there be a PS3 release for Japan at all? I could imagine how MS swings a large green bag of money on Ubisoft's desk... PBz0r 17:26, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

I have heard that the Japanese PS3 version has been delayed until next year... but I do not know how acurate that is. We will probably hear more soon. 142.165.59.39 00:26, 13 November 2007 (UTC)