User talk:Kusunose

Request

I've done maintenance of the List of fictional diseases you had made a JA link to. I noticed you have several diseases on the Japanese list. I am particularly interested in the disease that appears in Eden: It's An Endless World and would like to see a translation of it's name. I had wanted to add that for some time, but could not find a name for it.--YoungFreud 05:43, 27 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you, Kusunose, for adding your comprehensive Japanese link to my English Nissan Skyline article. Stombs 10:36, Aug 27, 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for infoming me of Okazaki Ritsuko's place of birth. I took a look at the Japanese article, but my Japanese is (yet) too bad to understand much of it. Any other information that might be taken from the Japanese article would be welcome. --Beoran 11:23, 2004 Oct 13 (UTC)

Article Licensing

Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 2000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:

Multi-Licensing FAQ - Lots of questions answered
Multi-Licensing Guide
Free the Rambot Articles Project

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

Option 1

I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:

OR

Option 2

I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk)

Tsushima Islands

Please do not revert the changes on Tsushima Islands. The reasons are already stated in Talk:Tsushima Islands. Feel free to ask questions, but please do not revert at your own accord. Your cooperation is greatly appreciated. Thank You.

Tan 19:11, 2 June 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! Doesn't look like you've been on this page in a while... I can use your input and local knowledge. Please wade in! [[User:Fabartus| FrankB || TalktoMe]] 00:00, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Before I Vote on 'Move Tsushima Islands' Issue

I would appreciate a rational explaination (after you read my Comments in the subject dispute Talk:Tsushima Islands), of the arguement or arguments you consider vital and germane to the discusion and vote. Frankly, MOST all of you are being silly over nothing of particular importance, since both names can be redirected into the one used. I have left a comment concerning my contribution to the article, which contribution — seems to have triggered the current edit and revision wars. For that I apologize, but see the Comments on the vote. I am also taking the liberty of putting the vote section AFTER the Comments about same.
Still, I have just spent over four hours of valuable spare time, and would welcome your thoughts after you read and understand the distinction I put forth between a governments termonology as a governing body and a geographical reference like an archepelego, which it certainly is.
More to the point, I'd like to see your defense regarding your favorite POV of what I had to say viz a viz the mergest attitude of the senior editors and administrators that frequent the Wikipedia:VfD discussions. To my recollection, I don't recollect any of you hotheads in this dispute ever spending anytime thereon, possibly excepting Mel Etitis, but rarely even then.
In any event, I'm neutral here, and have asked that the article be kept EDIT FREE for the next three days by placing The Inuse template into it — I'd copyedited over two and half hours before I suspended that effort the other night because this shameful fued was going on — proper English grammer does depend, unfortunately, on whether one uses the plural or the singular. I saved that on my hard drive, but I don't need to wade through yet another 70 edits to finish the job. As it is, this matter will probably double the time it takes for such a simple job.
If you are local to Japan, some history of the canals or Sea-channel is certainly germane to the ongoing discussion, moreover, any cogent arguement you condsider being particularly telling needs to be clearly repeated in the current on going comments if you want them counted on in the vote.
I will make sure this message goes to each contributor to the article the past month, so you are not being singled out. Now is the time to take a deep breath, for rational concise summaries, not all the arguing that is so wearisome in 66 printed pages - half a novelette, I'd guess! It's certainly a lot to ask your fellow editors to wade through on a minor issue.
I will also personally be making sure that at least a dozen other Administrators I'm acquainted with take a look at the debate after the time below. I will in fact ask for twenty commitments, so be clear and respectful of our time!!!
Thankyou for your time, attention, and good professional behaviour. I'll check the Talk state again no sooner than Monday around Noon (UTC), And ask the uninvolved others to do the same. PLEASE BE CONCISE. [[User:Fabartus| FrankB || TalktoMe]] 00:00, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Korean name

I see that you have put up the Korean name, but having an infobox would have been much neater. Also, your sentence saying that "There has been caltural influence from Korea, where they are called Daema-do (대마도)." What do you mean? This is certainly atrocious English, in terms of spelling and elaboration, I'm afraid. Mr Tan 06:41, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Japanese mythology

Hi, just thought I'd let you know that the above project exists, if you are interested in joining.

magatama

Hi, Kusunose.

I am wondering whether you have any English language sources to verify your information? I have researched magatama myself and have not seen mentioned a Jomon-period origin or any other proof as to why there was a transfer of magatama from what is now known as Japan to what is now known as Korea. I added the "citations needed" because I am not sure whether those assertions that I needed were true. You just deleted them without addressing it in the "Talk" section. Any help in this regard would be appreciated. Thanks.

User:Endroit/Chinese_Romanization

Hello. Please check out User:Endroit/Chinese_Romanization, and make additions/corrections where necessary. I am asking Yuje, Ran, Visviva, Nanshu, Babelfisch, Kusunose, and Saintjust to check and modify this Chinese Romanization proposal within the next 5 days.
After that we should move this Chinese Romanization page to a Project Page, and then request formal Mediation/Arbitration. I would like to nominate Yuje or Ran to be the leader for this project. Or I can be leader also. Please let me know what you think. Thanks.--Endroit 09:44, 2 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WP:MOSDATE?

Hi Kusunose, I saw your edit of Ulleung-do under "Unlink years per WP:MOSDATE. I can't find this in the manual of style, though; is there an official decision somewhere, or is this just your judgement call? Thanks, --Reuben 05:27, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the information! Your answer makes sense, but I guess there's no official recommendation about it at the moment. --Reuben 15:21, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Japan

Sorry if you get offened for my edit. I think top heavy article and choice of topics are thought to be a propaganda. So I think its better to avoid such type of article as written in note. About other edit points I have no argument now.Mythologia 14:26, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WPMilHist East Asian Task Force

Hello. I am proposing to begin an "East Asian task force" sub-section of the Military History WikiProject, or perhaps task forces dedicated solely to Korean or Japanese military history, if there is enough support. I have noticed (and appreciated) your extensive work on articles relating to Japanese and Korean military history, and to the two nations' relations. I invite you to lend your comments and/or support. The proposal is linked here: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history#Far East Task Force Proposal. Thank you. LordAmeth 15:15, 4 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

Kusonose: At the city of Nara ([1]) article there is a part that discusses the etymology/origin of the word Nara. I had never really taken seriously the assertion that Nara came from a Korean word before but I found this really interesting article here [2] discussing the origin of the term Kudara and it discusses the possible origins of Nara as well. Right now the section looks a little point of view/origianl researchy and all I did was add some citations and citations needed. If you could take a look I would appreciate it. Thanks. Tortfeasor 23:09, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

K: Sorry, I didn't mean for what I wrote to sound accusatory on the talk page in East Sea. I just didn't understand your point but I think I do now. Thanks for taking a look at Nara, Nara. Tortfeasor 04:25, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

History merges

The blanked articles you redirected, such as

09:04, 12 July 2006 A Small Deadly Space (#REDIRECT A Small Deadly Space) 
08:57, 12 July 2006 Texas Enterprise Fund (#REDIRECT Texas Enterprise Fund)

should have been history merges, for which you need a sysop. I have fixed these two, but in the future, please either ask a familiar admin about it (you can ask me) or post a note on WP:AN. Thanks. - CrazyRussian talk/email 15:40, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Primary Topic" in East Sea

In Talk:East Sea#Where are we at?, you have said "I don't object making it [a primary topic]". We have 2 versions to choose from....

Tortfeasor's version: East Sea is another name for the Sea of Japan. See also Sea of Japan naming dispute.
Endroit's version: East Sea is another name for the Sea of Japan as described by the Sea of Japan naming dispute.

Can you specify which of the 2 versions you prefer? I believe Endroit's version treats Sea of Japan naming dispute equally with Sea of Japan. And Tortfeasor's version does not.

Also Bridesmill suggested using the {{controversy}} tag. Please comment on that also. Thank you for your cooperation.--Endroit 14:02, 15 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yakiniku

I don't oppose your edit on the yakiniku article, in fact I just reverted back to your version after another Japanese vandal removing the references to bulgogi (as well as sabotaging the bulgogi article). I would though like to ask if it were a coincidence that you all of a sudden make this change only four hours after User:Gegesongs made a controversial edit stating yakiniku does not come from bulgogi, which I reverted. Despite the fact that nobody ever had a problem with that wording since the article was created over a year ago. Then, a third (most probably Japanese) user removes the edits again? All within 24 hours by different users. Something smells fishy. Mackan 13:36, 16 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Since you've been logged in recently, I find it weird you have chosen not to reply to my comments. Please do. Mackan 01:55, 20 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use

Fair use is a doctrine in United States copyright law that allows limited use of copyrighted material without requiring permission from the rights holders, such as use for scholarship or review.

Taeguk Warrior 16:07, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Taeguk Warrior - Please also see [[3]]. Wikipedia's usage of fair use is different than yours.

Under U.S. copyright law, almost all work published after 1922 may have an active copyright (there are exceptions, however — see United States copyright law for details). In general, the use of copyrighted work without the permission of the copyright holder is copyright infringement, and is illegal. As such, on Wikipedia, which is hosted in the United States, we are normally only able to use material that is not under copyright or is available under a sufficiently free license.

An important exception to this rule exists, recognized in a clause in the copyright act that describes a limited right to use copyrighted material without permission of the copyright holder — what is known as fair use (or "fair dealing" in other countries, where standards may differ). This page is meant as a guideline for dealing with fair use materials on the English Wikipedia — it provides general guidance on what is or isn't likely to be fair use and how you can best assist editors when attempting to include material under fair use. However, it is not official policy. You, as the uploader, are legally responsible for determining whether your contributions are legal.

Taeguk Warrior 19:22, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for input on Okinotori Islands

I noticed you weighed in on the discussion of the name of the islands. Perhaps you'd like to offer a comment for what the name of the article currently filed under Imjins War should be. We're open to suggestions; I personally favor "Hideyoshi's campaigns," but there may be something better. Komdori 21:22, 21 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Osaka

Please stop incorrectly altering the Osaka (disambiguation) page. There's no reason to list eh AzuDai character at the top as she belongs in the fictional characters section. And since the AzuDai character is not a primary topic (that would be the city and the prefecture), it should not be separated out and placed at the top. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 15:49, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Page moving

Are you an administrator of wiki? I couldnt find anything that you are an administrator. I think it should be moved according to the convention.

Thanks.... I see what you point. --Hairwizard91 12:54, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I just understand what you said... but, there is warning to me from you...--Hairwizard91 12:56, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your removing the warning... --Hairwizard91 13:15, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

nice to meet you

Hi, I was excited and happy to see that you are trying to introduce Tolkien to Japanese audiences in ja:wikipedia. I wish Japanese could have a deeper understanding of Tolkien's works (and Korean prehistory ^^). Eventually, I would like to do as you are doing in ko:wikipedia. Mumun 09:47, 17 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Spam Blacklist

Thanks for noticing that screwy addition to the spam blacklist; I didn't see it. Now we just need them to do something about it. — Brother Flounder (aka DiegoTehMexican) 05:13, 13 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dab

Okay. I was half wrong, but you're not supposed to pipe the link. The whole point is for "disambiguation" to be visible. Anyway, it's a stupid part of the guideline. Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 02:42, 17 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

I won't do that again. Uthanc 15:57, 23 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Another Thanks

Thank you for letting me know of the correct procedure to move pages, I was unaware of it, and will follow it in the future. Zeus1234 17:31, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

KBS

I would like your input on Talk:KBS. I have heard that you changed the redirect, and my question is directed at that. Thanks in advance. SKS2K6 02:11, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Salt lake dab

Here in western australia we have a very large number - but many probably havent been adequately identified or even have had articles created yet - so I have taken note of your work - we'll put it up on our project page...SatuSuro 01:19, 29 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

User:Nationalist

This is not going to be easy if you get tangled up with him. He has been very aggressive on Taiwan/Republic of China politics since his very first edit. See his contributions and you might get the hint. Vic226_(chat) 06:45, 2 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Thanks for the help with Template:Territorial disputes in East and South Asia. Hopefully this helps to put an end to the whole edit war over territory dispute infoboxes. -Loren 08:44, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Koreans

Thanks for catching that. cab 10:08, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Okinotorishima categories

I see your changes and agree this is "more correct." I had gotten confused, but then found this:

... while acknowledging Japan's territorial rights to Okinotorishima itself ...

However, is there a category for

... did not acknowledge Japan's claim to an exclusive economic zone (EEZ) stemming from Okinotorishima.

That is, is there a category for "disputed EEZ"s? Shenme 11:43, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Central Japan Railway Company

The standard naming convention for railways is to leave out the "Company". I thought this was at Wikipedia:WikiProject Trains/Manual of style but I can't find it, so I'll start a discussion at WT:TWP. --NE2 06:57, 2 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

petition

sorry for misusing the talk page, but Would you delete it if it was a petition to the Korean government? I presume you wouldn't. just wondering. Odst 23:08, 6 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I would if I noticed. --Kusunose 06:09, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Koda Rohan

The article was temporarily undeleted for discussion at DRV. If you want to save it, please expand it and leave a not mentioning the changes so subsequent commenters can base their comments of your new version rather than the other comments. - Mgm|^(talk) 12:41, 29 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

New disambiguation section

I'm leaving a note at the talk for WikiProject Japan about why I pulled Chiba off the list. Please take a look. Dekimasuよ! 10:12, 11 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Naming

Hi Kusunose, I was hoping you could keep an eye on the direction the arguments are turning in the Port Hamilton page. I think many are simply arguing that it should change because it is Korean territory now, and I think this is not correct. I hope you could clarify your vote, or at least change it to oppose for the current naming one and express that if the naming issue was raised with another option you might pick that instead. Komdori 22:03, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yi Sunsin

I history-merged to Yi Sunsin from Yi Sun-sin as asked. Anthony Appleyard 21:26, 19 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Shōtoku

Thanks for fixing the Japanese year templates for Shōtoku. Sorry those templates aren't better documented, but they are a result of a pretty speculative round of iterative refactoring by myself and User:Patrick after being created by User:Akanemoto. I've added the romaji label for the era as "Shōtoku", in addition to your change for the base year and kanji keys. Mike Dillon 04:39, 27 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Chinese name in Sea of Japan

Thanks for catching my mistake; I hadn't seen that discussion. Komdori 17:04, 11 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WP:FU

"(diff) (hist) . . Japanese name‎; 11:53 . . (-389) . . Kusunose (Talk | contribs | block) (→Japanese names in English - removed Image:SugorokuMutou.PNG. It does not meet WP:FU)"

It is fair use. And, I have no free alternative in the context of "Sugoroku Mutou." Now, why don't you find me a replacement picture in the context of "Japanese names," and I will accept the removal of the picture? WhisperToMe 04:45, 12 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Answered at Talk:Japanese name#WP:FU. --Kusunose 07:41, 12 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Replied. WhisperToMe 07:37, 13 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dokdo RM poll

Hey, could you participate in a new poll for Dokdo? The candidates include Liancourt Rocks, Takeshima, and the new Takeshima/Dokdo variations suggested by user:Macgruder. I'm informing you because you voted on the last poll. Thanks. (Wikimachine 18:54, 21 May 2007 (UTC))[reply]

Wōkòu

why it should not be written like this? --ThurnerRupert 18:50, 27 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

dab...

Re your dab work, nicely done - and you've done heaps. Thanks for improving the encyclopaedia.Merbabu 08:14, 24 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot for working on Science and Technology in Korea. (Wikimachine 03:47, 8 July 2007 (UTC))[reply]

Sugoroku Mutou fair use rationale

I added fair use rationale to the image for both Sugoroku Mutou and the Japanese name article. WhisperToMe 06:51, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Eishō

Please explain your clean-up of the Eishō disambiguation. Obviously it doesn't really matter in the broader sense, but I wonder in the context of what I might be inclined to do in the future. Your edit is crisp, clean, precise; but why remove the other helpful links? Were you thinking that links are better eliminated because they're superfluous to disambiguation, no matter how relevant to the subject at hand? If I were to have enountered your version without this history, I might have thought it helpful to add a link to Japanese era names? I gather that you would have construed that hypothetical edit as unhelpful. The question becomes: Why? Do you see my point? My view is informed by plausible reasoning, but I'm open to changing my mind ... and there would be repercussions in the way I edit in future.

From a slightly different perspective: I really liked the new layout which places the kanji in such close proximation. The graphic distinction becomes more vividly clear. Why not bracket the kanji to create links to nowhere so that the contrast is highlighted in red? Is the reasoning in this case congruent with what you were thinking when you removed the link to Japanese era names?

These are trivial questions, I know; but the limited subject matter makes this a good venue for addressing broader related issues, I reckon. Ooperhoofd 13:39, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Smile!

The boy previously known as a vandal has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing!
Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Aug 2007

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Parangdo. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content which gains a consensus among editors. --Bason1 12:33, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Information

Hello Kusunose. I inform you that this report was submitted by Bason0.[4] Thanks. --Nightshadow28 20:15, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for letting me know. --Kusunose 10:21, 18 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings from WikiProject Korea!

Thank you for your recent contributions to one of Wikipedia's Korea-related articles. Given the interest you've expressed by your edits, have you considered joining WikiProject Korea? It's a group dedicated to improving the overall quality of all Korea-related articles. If you would like to join, simply add your name to the list of participants.

If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask at the project talk page. We look forward to working with you in the future! Wikimachine 03:31, 4 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Rfa

Hey, I've nominated you for adminship at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Kusunose. Please accept. (Wikimachine 03:41, 4 September 2007 (UTC))[reply]

The Rfa can't continue unless you accept, Kusunose. I think you should become one. (Wikimachine 14:54, 4 September 2007 (UTC))[reply]

Thank you for nomination. I'm considering. Please wait. --Kusunose 22:56, 4 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject:CJKV disambiguation pages

Hello Kusunose

Please see Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#CJKV disambiguation pages. We are planning a DAB project, to handle CJKV / Chinese characters.

I see that you have created the dab 東海, and have edited many CJKV articles. We will need your expertise in making guidelines, etc., for this new project. And it will be a great help if you can join us. Thank you in advance for your help.--Endroit (talk) 15:20, 20 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Osaka

Thanks for fixing climate details for Osaka. I knew they were wrong. That guy quite rudely told me If I was in Osaka I would have known temperature. Actually I was so that's why I knew it was wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sexyeamo (talk • contribs) 06:19, 11 December 2007 (UCT) (UTC)

?

Please go to Liancourt rocks article first. An editor moved the whole article to Dokdo and almost all of edit history is erased. I tried to make Dokdo page to be the usual redirect page just like yesterday. My revert and your revert removed all contents. --Appletrees (talk) 17:29, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, you're not certainly an administrator. The Dokdo page is not undone by administrator yet. Unless an admin restores Liancourt article, there has to hold content in either Liancourt rocks or Dokdo. And you completely removed the contents in wiki (for a while)--Appletrees (talk) 17:55, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, you're treating me like the same person as the banned editor. And I haven't copied and edited the page as you claims. And you're not in the position to make a decision. The admin leaves the Dokdo redirect page and you're acting like an admin. It is beyond your right. --Appletrees (talk) 18:19, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You're responsible for violating bad faith. At the time, I thought I might make a mistake because the whole contents of the Liancourt rocks article disappeared completely. And the edit history was gone as well. Therefore, restoring the contents and then intend to move the page to "Liancourt rocks". I don't endorse the editor's revert at all. If your claims were right, the admin endorses as the editors' intention. You're still acting like an admin which can be found in your recent edits. --Appletrees (talk) 19:10, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hey guys, relax. This was a highly uncommon situation that could easily get people confused. Whatever happened, the article has now been restored, albeit in a shortened version. Even though it is probably going to stay protected for some time still, constructive suggestions for re-expansion will be welcome. Fut.Perf. ☼ 06:54, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

!

Don't forget to give our friend jusenkyo the warning, too! I think he needs it more than I do, given he's somewhat new to wikipedia. :-) o.d.s.t. : feet first into hell (talk) 02:28, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, I did. --Kusunose (talk) 02:36, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I would like you to revert your edit, because independence activist is more of an appropriate term, since nationalist has two meanings, and the two definitions are oft-confused between each other. Much appreciated if you do.o.d.s.t. : feet first into hell (talk) 02:40, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]