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This page provides editors a forum to suggest items for inclusion in Template:In the news (ITN), a protected Main Page template, as well as the forum for discussion of candidates.

This candidates page is integrated with the daily pages of Portal:Current events. Under each daily section header below is the transcluded Portal:Current events items for that day (with a light green header). Each day's portal page is followed by a subsection for suggestions and discussion.

Suggestions

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  • Start, find or modify a blurb directly in the light green box for that day's Current events.
  • Update an article linked to from the blurb to include the recent developments, or find an article that has already been updated.
  • Nominate the blurb for ITN inclusion under that day's ITN Candidates subheading, emboldening the link to the updated article.
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It doesn't seem to have any references for the new content. --They've also signed their comment 12:06, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
I went ahead and added some citations. It should be ready now. --User's Name 12:07, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
Looks good. Posted. --Responding administrator 12:10, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

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July 15

July 15, 2008 (2008-07-15) (Tuesday)

ITN candidates for July 15

July 14

July 14, 2008 (2008-07-14) (Monday)

ITN candidates for July 14

Support pending sufficient update in either InBev or Anheuser-Busch. Agree on significance; takevover would create the world's largest beer maker. Hammer Raccoon (talk) 06:18, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Should we not wait for the government agencies to declare the takeover as OK? Potential news for future. Right now, it may or may not happen. --gppande «talk» 09:15, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I hadn't heard anything relating to antitrust issues, and a quick review of financial wires doesn't show any. Financial articles are totally on board this idea. I suppose it's possible that there will be a nativist reaction by US politicians, sort of like the one that sunk the ports deal, but that would be worth covering too IMO. There's actually a bit of editing ugliness here in which much of the updates went into the new article Anheuser-Busch InBev, which is now up for deletion, so it'll be worth keeping an eye on this to see if the articles become unstable and this blurb needs to be taken off. Posted. - BanyanTree 22:50, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Personally I like it, but I can't see how any update of the article could constitute more than a couple of sentences at most. Hammer Raccoon (talk) 00:59, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support, but the article is not updated for the "reclassifies" part of the news. There should be some mention of why it was reclassified (meaning it was declassified earlier) and what directed IAU to take this decision --gppande «talk» 08:59, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You mean a better ref to why did they classify it this way? Basically because they agreed on a name at last. I could not find a press release, but I've found a more descriptive ref. What about now? Nergaal (talk) 17:29, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
What I wanted was little bit of more text added to the article which tells of this significant IAU activity. I see 1 line in heading with 2 new refs but not sure if this is enough to get it on main page. Other admins like BanyanTree may voice their opinion here. --gppande «talk» 18:08, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It was never 'declassified', it was only discovered 3 years ago. Its status was undetermined, awaiting classification; that has now happened, and it now joins the 'dwarf planet' (only the 4th ever) and 'Plutoid' (only the 3rd ever) groups. Plus, it now has an official name. Radagast (talk) 18:12, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I understand and I support(as said earlier). Can you add some meat on it? I am not getting anything on google news to add some more text to Makemake article. --gppande «talk» 18:36, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Meat on it? Like what? Nergaal (talk) 19:44, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Posted. Working Group for Planetary System Nomenclature is a redirect and has been omitted. - BanyanTree 22:50, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No offense, but the map's kind boring. Can this image of Makemake be used? BobAmnertiopsisChitChat Me! 01:36, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Are we being slow today? A new Ms. Universe (Venezuela),[1] Sudan's president charged with genocide,[2] Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac saved from potential collapse[3] ... - Mtmelendez (Talk) 13:24, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I went ahead and added the Miss Universe info, since that has been traditionally included on ITN given it's international press coverage. If you disagree or have any suggestions, please say so below. There are quite a few more stories worth mentioning, so please discuss below. - Mtmelendez (Talk) 13:49, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Can you put up a picture of Miss universe or that volcano story. Need a picture of something near the top of the ITN section. Don't see why the Booker prize thing was an ITN item anyway. Thanks --Dfgxx (talk) 16:59, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'm honestly not sure if Miss Universe should appear. This is no world-shattering event, and I would not even classify it along the sport-event lines, which require much more effort, in my opinion, by the newsmaker in question. If we have a lot of stories to cover, I'd say we skip that one. Radagast (talk) 17:09, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It's more followed than the booker prize award at least. The picture should be of the volcano erupting which I think is the largest story there. It also has fair news coverage. --Dfgxx (talk) 17:32, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It was followed by about 1 billion people... but seriously I am not sure which is worse: having football/soccer players winning awards on drugs, or miss worlds winning for bjs... Nergaal (talk) 17:35, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Please identify the articles relating to the ICC or Freddie Mac that have been updated sufficiently for inclusion in ITN by emboldening the link to the updated article and nominating them here for comment. Thanks, BanyanTree 22:50, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nom Battle of Wanat. - BanyanTree 22:50, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not enough refs. SpencerT♦C 23:18, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Nominate - the genocide charges against the Sudanese president Omar al-Bashir related looks like to the War in Darfur. I know already 2 items have been promoted to ITN today, so it may hurt its chances, but let's give it a shot (sure I could have myself placed it) It seems it is probably the top international news of the day, a president being charged by an International Court of war crime charges. --JForget 23:25, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Please offer an emboldened link to the relevant updated article, so commenters know where to look. - BanyanTree 23:50, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
War in Darfur has been updated. Could be displayed as follows:
-- Reaper X 04:20, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support blurb. It might seem to make more sense to bold "Omar al-Bashir", but I suppose it depends which article has the best update. Hammer Raccoon (talk) 05:21, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well I would say that the conflict in Darfur relates more to this news item than al-Bashir himself; the conflict is a large and conplicated matter that he was only a part of. -- Reaper X 06:15, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

July 13

July 13, 2008 (2008-07-13) (Sunday)

ITN candidates for July 13

The Union for the Mediterranean comprising 43 member nations is established. -- nom by Scanlan (talk) 16:11, 14 July 2008 (UTC) (Sorry I don't have a more creative statement!)[reply]

I would think that this is a story that deserves a sport. Shouldn't there be a current news media link somewhere for this? __meco (talk) 17:23, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, there should be an entry at Portal:Current events with a link to a news article. If there had been, I'm sure this would have posted before now. I don't think anyone is going to object on the grounds that it is too short, doesn't have enough citations or is not of international interest, so I (in an unusual case) feel OK going straight to a post. - BanyanTree 22:47, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

July 12

July 12, 2008 (2008-07-12) (Saturday)

ITN candidates for July 12

Article has been updated with all possible news sources. Feel free to rephrase the line. --gppande «talk» 16:03, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support Added a ref and a link, and the article looks good. That red timer sure is ugly. SpencerT♦C 18:58, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support Can we get a picture of the eruption maybe? OR a picture of thirty-nine people fleeing in terror? --PlasmaTwa2 20:11, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I've added it. Sans picture for now, but that doesn't mean we can't find one. -- Natalya 20:16, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
By the by, I changed the grammar to say "the Aleutian Islands", but there's always a chance that there legitimately shouldn't be a "the" there... if anyone happens to know otherwise. -- Natalya 20:36, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support Seems to be a slow news day. Hobartimus (talk) 21:04, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I just changed this because the island does not appear to have been evacuated. See this article. (Ten people were evacuated, and Unalaska Island has nearly 2000 residents.) People here may want to think of a better juicy blurb because I just chopped the second half off. Calliopejen1 (talk) 21:06, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Didn't notice that. Just believed the usual news agencies. How about?
Mount Okmok on the island of Umnak in Aleutian Islands erupts, creating an ash cloud.
or maybe something else. --gppande «talk» 22:30, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Remember Okmok is on Umnak, which has 39 residents. Cape Field at Fort Glenn was evacuated, while apparently Nikolski, Alaska was not. Unalaska Island is a different place. SpencerT♦C 02:36, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well, although its not too erupty in this picture, it IS a picture, and it's Public Domain. Sorry, no 39 people...BobAmnertiopsisChitChat Me! 04:03, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

July 11

July 11, 2008 (2008-07-11) (Friday)

ITN candidates for July 11

Article doesn't appear to be updated. SpencerT♦C 20:50, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The relevant article might be Lebanese government of July 2008, but it doesn't have prose updates or sufficient references. - BanyanTree 12:08, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The article needs more information about the closure. SpencerT♦C 00:00, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It looks like there has been a slight expansion since the above comment. Up until the current financial problems it was a stub, and the post-expansion writing and structure is still choppy. This article is marginal in my eyes - something that we should try to avoid putting as the top item in its current state, though I won't resist being forced into posting it by the timer and would probably be willing to post it into the middle of the template in its current state. - BanyanTree 02:13, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Some more content has been added and I put some section headers in, and the article doesn't look half-bad. Posted. - BanyanTree 06:03, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Since "second- or third-largest banking failure" looks like we don't know what we're talking about, I would recommend changing it to "one of the largest banking failures in United States history." Cumulus Clouds (talk) 18:42, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Looks like somebody already handled this. - BanyanTree 12:08, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nom 2008 California wildfires. - BanyanTree 06:03, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I like this one. I think the blurb should indicate that the fires have been going on for some time. Note though that the particular story listed above isn't actually discussed in the main article. Hammer Raccoon (talk) 07:31, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oh shoot. I really should have learned my lesson from last time. How about "Wildfires burn over 800,000 acres in California, surpassing the toll of the 2003 fire season."? - BanyanTree 12:17, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Not really all that notable. There are wildfires everywhere in Canada right now that deplace thousands. What is so more important about this one except for the article? --PlasmaTwa2 19:25, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I can't figure out your reasoning. Are you saying, (1) neither the wildfires in California or Canada are notable enough for ITN or (2) the wildfires are worthy of ITN inclusion, but it would be unethical to post one event if the other doesn't have an article? Or maybe there's another rationale I can't see. Regarding the second, I wrote a post somewhere on this page about how I find attempt to mitigate systemic bias by vetoing ITN candidates to be misguided. The first is a valid reason, though it doesn't need a comparison about which events have associated articles. In any case even with an oppose and no consensus, this is literally the only candidate up right now and its been almost 24 hours since the last update... - BanyanTree 12:08, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'm saying it seems to me that the only reason this is being suggested is that it is happening in California. Compared to other wildfires in the world, this is pretty minor, it seems. This one only has the luxury of having a Wikipedia article. If there was an article named 2008 North American Wildfires I would support it. And we have a new candidate up for today, anyway. --PlasmaTwa2 20:09, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Personally I think this is just as notable as the volcano eruption that's already up. There's been evacuations, fatalities, and they've been recommending on certain days to avoid any unnecessary outdoor activity because of the poor air quality. Could you put me straight and point me in the direction of some more serious wildfires going on right now? Hammer Raccoon (talk) 00:54, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Not on Wikipedia. --PlasmaTwa2 06:45, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This discussion seems to be going in circles but, with one positive and one negative comment by people who are not me: posted. - BanyanTree 22:48, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

July 10

July 10, 2008 (2008-07-10) (Thursday)

ITN candidates for July 10

Any nominations for today? -- Natalya 21:51, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

None by the looks of things - all of the action is in the below section... weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 09:36, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The Best of the Booker is a possibility, as the winner of the Man Booker Prize has been an annual item on ITN, but a few more citations would be nice. - BanyanTree 09:58, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I've added some citations as asked - will that be sufficient for this to go up? Hammer Raccoon (talk) 08:36, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Honestly? Marginal for an event-specific article, but probably enough as long as it's not the lead blurb. Thank you for the edits. Posted. - BanyanTree 12:56, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
How about: Indian-British writer Salman Rushdie's novel Midnight's Children is recognized as the best novel to have won a Booker Prize in history. --Hapsala (talk) 10:14, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Midnight's Children seems to have a one sentence-one citation update, which is not sufficient and bolding an eight-word phrase seems counterintuitive from the reader's perspective. Also, I'm not convinced that Rushdie's ethnicity or nationality is particularly relevant to this blurb. - BanyanTree 12:56, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

July 9

July 9, 2008 (2008-07-09) (Wednesday)

ITN candidates for July 9

No nominations today either? weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 19:08, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to nominate Shahab-3 with the following rubric:

  • Nominating India's move for nuclear deal as it is of international importance for nuclear trade - News added & cited.
File:BushandSingh02Mar2006.jpg

India submits it's nuclear safeguards agreement to IAEA to implement the Indo-US nuclear deal, also endorsed by other countries. --gppande «talk» 21:47, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know how the whole process works, but I oppose if it's just India submitting it. --PlasmaTwa2 00:09, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
What do you mean by "formerly"? Oppose It's just a US-India agreement. The BBC article here has a lot more information. The section needs to be built up a bit and have a little more info after seeing this. SpencerT♦C 01:10, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ok - I removed the word formerly as it looked out of context. Also, feel free to alter the newsline. I have added some more info - please check. Also this news qualifies international importance check. 1) IAEA (45 nation group) approves a proposal submitted by India to sign a nuke agreement with US. 2) Later NSG (group of 35 nations) would approve it 3) US Congress in Sept will approve it. But the most important step has just now happened. This is crucial in nuclear energy circle as it is first time that a non signatory of NPT & CTBT has been extended the nuke deal. --gppande «talk» 08:32, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Looks better now. SpencerT♦C 11:25, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, any admin interested in moving the news to Main Page? --gppande «talk» 15:09, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Just ask WBOSITG (above), or ask at WP:AN. SpencerT♦C 19:42, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Posted. - BanyanTree 23:37, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Flag of Grenada
Flag of Grenada
First, flags aren't appropriate in this kind of election setting. I'm going to try to expand Grenadian general election, 2008, so lets focus on that one. SpencerT♦C 11:25, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Wordings: In Grenada, Tillman Thomas succeeds Keith Mitchell as the new Prime Minister of Grenada following the National Democratic Congress's win in the general elections. SpencerT♦C 20:39, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Posted. Used the image of losing candidate as the only free image applicable to the current crop of blurbs, but that isn't ideal. - BanyanTree 23:37, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nom 2008 United States consulate in Istanbul attack. - BanyanTree 00:26, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article looks okay...bonus: There's an image! :D. Sure. SpencerT♦C 20:51, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, the image is key. Posted. - BanyanTree 02:02, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

July 8

July 8, 2008 (2008-07-08) (Tuesday)

ITN candidates for July 8

Nominate 34th G8 summit. SpencerT♦C 21:07, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oops, it's up already, but we can put related comments below. SpencerT♦C 21:09, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Heehee, sorry. weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 21:26, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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