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New Theme?
Randy Orton's new theme song is "Voices" by Rev Theory —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sheepdaaa (talk • contribs) 14:52, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
Are you people sure that this is the name of the song and band? I searched both on iTunes and the song doesnt exist by the band Rev Theory.Jonathanmbarnes (talk) 04:10, 27 May 2008 (UTC)JMB
Haven't seen the whole show, but watching the Cena/Orton match on WWE.com, after he got the pin, the song that played wasn't Burn in my Light, if anyone knows it, should it be added, or given a chance to see if it is used again? ---Вlazzeee 06:46, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
it should be added even if played for one night its Killswitch Engage - Fixation on the Darkness. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.242.62.217 (talk) 10:48, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
No, it's The Ripper by Chinchilla. --Gtadood (talk) 13:04, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
- I've noticed the same debate is taking place across other websites, such as Yahoo Answers, where I attempted to find what it was, however, it seems as though there hasn't been a general consensus yet. However, I agree that I don't think it was Fixation on the Darkness, it's already being used by CM Punk, and it didn't sound like it; I don't think it should be added until it is certain. ---Вlazzeee 15:50, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
- Apologies for the previous comment, it wasn't being used for Punk as I've just realised, the latter can be discarded. It has also been added as Fixation on the Darkness now, I should have looked at the page first. ---Вlazzeee 15:54, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
Its Neither You Idiots Its A New Song No One Knows Yet I Have Heard Both And They Are Not His New Song--RKOFAN4LIFE
- No personal attacks please. However, I do agree that an agreement needs to be made, and this is why at the start I said that it should wait until it is certain. ---Вlazzeee 17:27, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
- We should definately remove the fixation on the darkness note until we know what the theme music, because it certainly is not that song. I can see why people thought it was The Ripper, but its not. I think its possible the song is completely new, so we should remove the note until we are given a good, citable source.--76.104.252.229 (talk) 17:31, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
- Forgot to log in.--ProtoWolf (talk) 17:35, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
- We shouldn't add anything until we recieve confirmation of the title. And CM Punk isn't using Fixation, he's using This Fire (This Fire Burns) by Killswitch Engage.Killswitch Engage (talk) 18:10, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
- If that was directed at me, about Punk I realised my mistake shortly after and corrected it :). Glad that there is an agreement though, I brought it up as I anticipated wrong information being added, or a possible edit war for no reason. -Вlazzeee 18:26, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
- Oh ya, no prob, just thought I would point it out. I havn't heard the song yet, I'm hoping when I get a chance, I may be able to identify it. Killswitch Engage (talk) 18:31, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
- If that was directed at me, about Punk I realised my mistake shortly after and corrected it :). Glad that there is an agreement though, I brought it up as I anticipated wrong information being added, or a possible edit war for no reason. -Вlazzeee 18:26, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
- We shouldn't add anything until we recieve confirmation of the title. And CM Punk isn't using Fixation, he's using This Fire (This Fire Burns) by Killswitch Engage.Killswitch Engage (talk) 18:10, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
I vote we don't add it until we get the name of the song and the band who did it. Steveweiser (talk) 18:57, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
As far as I know, it's "Voices" by Rev Theory Slydogman920 (talk) 11:14, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
- What should we accept as official confirmation? WWE.com? An interview somewhere? Steveweiser (talk) 12:00, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
- If it does become his theme, if he continues to use it, it should be found on a future WWE CD, however, that's a not a suggestion that it needs to wait that long, just saying that is an official confirmation. However, it generally seems as though people believe it is "Voices" by Rev Theory ---Вlazzeee 15:40, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
Someone told me that WWE Mobile said it was "Voices" by Rev Theory. Phoenixmuffin (talk) 20:48, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
- It seems firmly established that it is "Voices", with many music videos showing it, and his entrance on Youtube -- however, I don't think that it is notable until it is used more than once, or became his entrance theme permenantly. Although it wil be added if it is used just once, I don't think it should be added as of yet. ---Вlazzeee 21:22, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
- If he used it once, how can we say that's his official theme song? If he uses is at Judgment Day and the upcoming weeks, then yeah, I'd be fine to add. But, until now, its notable. -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 01:28, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
- Whats the problem with all of you? Why dont we just add it? Imagine the following - Guy watches Raw on monday. orton comes in with his theme, guy thinks 'hmm, i like that song'. what could be his first place to look for the songs name? right, wikipedia. we can easily delete it, when he doesn't use it anymore. a new entrance theme IS notable. Diivoo (talk) 09:56, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
- What's wrong with you? Don't you read? Speed CG Talk 16:02, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
- I don't think that there is any problem with leaving it as it is at the moment, as it has only been used the once, that doesn't mean that it will become his entrance theme full time, it could be used to promote Rev Theory for a few weeks, it's unsure at the moment. That being said, a note will be left at some time regardless, as has the "This Fire Burns" under the music; there isn't a rush to add it. Diivoo, that's (partially) why we don't "just add it" yet -Вlazzeee 16:24, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
- I just think it is wrong, to keep people in the dark. sure, you know what the song is called. the guys who read the discussion know what the song is called. But why is it ok, to add "This fire burns", which was also used for just a week, but its not ok to add "Voices", which has also been used for one week now? Just because the other one is now used by CM Punk? I think THAT is really not notable. Diivoo (talk) 17:21, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, but the point is that we are unsure of the fate of it at the moment -- it may be used for just one week, however, if not, it won't be added as such. Remember, Wikipedia isn't a crystal ball we don't know what is going to happen, there is little harm in leaving it a week or two, it's still future whether or not it will become his full time theme. -Вlazzeee 18:17, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
- I do want to ask, why would Wikipedia be the first main source for information of that sort? My first guess would be WWE.com, not Wikipedia. Zenlax T C S 19:01, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, but the point is that we are unsure of the fate of it at the moment -- it may be used for just one week, however, if not, it won't be added as such. Remember, Wikipedia isn't a crystal ball we don't know what is going to happen, there is little harm in leaving it a week or two, it's still future whether or not it will become his full time theme. -Вlazzeee 18:17, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
- I just think it is wrong, to keep people in the dark. sure, you know what the song is called. the guys who read the discussion know what the song is called. But why is it ok, to add "This fire burns", which was also used for just a week, but its not ok to add "Voices", which has also been used for one week now? Just because the other one is now used by CM Punk? I think THAT is really not notable. Diivoo (talk) 17:21, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
- I don't think that there is any problem with leaving it as it is at the moment, as it has only been used the once, that doesn't mean that it will become his entrance theme full time, it could be used to promote Rev Theory for a few weeks, it's unsure at the moment. That being said, a note will be left at some time regardless, as has the "This Fire Burns" under the music; there isn't a rush to add it. Diivoo, that's (partially) why we don't "just add it" yet -Вlazzeee 16:24, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
- What's wrong with you? Don't you read? Speed CG Talk 16:02, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
- Whats the problem with all of you? Why dont we just add it? Imagine the following - Guy watches Raw on monday. orton comes in with his theme, guy thinks 'hmm, i like that song'. what could be his first place to look for the songs name? right, wikipedia. we can easily delete it, when he doesn't use it anymore. a new entrance theme IS notable. Diivoo (talk) 09:56, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
- If he used it once, how can we say that's his official theme song? If he uses is at Judgment Day and the upcoming weeks, then yeah, I'd be fine to add. But, until now, its notable. -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 01:28, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Now we are sure his theme is "Voices" by Rev Theory, what does the note -- When he debuted the full 'Age of Orton'-- mean? Wasn't/isn't the 'Age of Orton' over since he lost the WWE Championship, and the song debuted after he lost it to HHH? Or is it just to signify the newest stage of his clear, different to the 'Legend Killer'? -Вlazzeee 11:26, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
- Will this do as a source? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geWIMcwr-SY Lemon Demon (talk) 11:11, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
- No. Youtube is not a reliable source. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 11:53, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, cause we all know that people edit WWE footage before they post it. Sorry dude, but thems the rules, no matter how crappy they are. Killswitch Engage (talk) 23:57, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
- Good point well made. I needed a bash over the head for that one. Unfortunately, however plausible that stuff is (w/ JR's commentary etc. fitting with the motion), some clever dick coulda edited it. Thanks a lot. Lemon Demon (talk) 12:27, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, cause we all know that people edit WWE footage before they post it. Sorry dude, but thems the rules, no matter how crappy they are. Killswitch Engage (talk) 23:57, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
- No. Youtube is not a reliable source. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 11:53, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
- Will this do as a source? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geWIMcwr-SY Lemon Demon (talk) 11:11, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Double R DDT
He is using this DDT since Wresltemania XXIV. He then did a double Double R DDT. The feet are still on the bottom rope and his opponent is in a front facelock. He then does a DDT. He is the only one who uses it. So I guess it's a signature move.Zaheer12a (talk) 00:39, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- Would you mean a **Rope-hung spike DDT? Gavyn Sykes (talk) 02:14, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
Yes that is the Double R DDT. On One Night Stand Jim Ross called this DDT a Double R DDT wh nOrton did it on HHH. This is the same as lionsault and moonsault. If Jericho does it it's a lionsault otherwise it's a moonsault.Zaheer12a (talk) 09:30, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
I changed the DDT to Double R DDT but I don't understand why it's changed back. It;s called the Double R DDT. Watch One Night Stand again! When he does this DDT it's called the Double R DDT and not the Rope Hung Spike DDT. Zaheer12a (talk) 11:03, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
- Do you have a source? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gavyn Sykes (talk • contribs)
Randy Orton is Out
Randy Orton is out because of his shoulder's are injuried. Randy Orton will be gone for a while and he will return in September 2008. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.65.177.96 (talk) 02:16, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
- Okay, seriously, please stop adding false information. Randy Orton is out with a broken clavicle (also known as the collarbone). His time of recovery is based on his body's ability to heal and upon his will to be rehabilitated enough to rejoin the active roster. For example, observe John Cena who was supposed to be out for well over a year. Truthfully, in accordance with his injury and the time estimated for recovery (one year or more), he shouldn't have returned till this month, yet we saw him return at the Royal Rumble. Stating that he will return in September 2008 when there hasn't even been an announcement as to the current state of his injury or when he will return is in itself false and shouldn't even be stated. Once more, please cease to add these false statements. ⒺⓋⒾⓁⒼⓄⒽⒶⓃ② talk 03:29, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
- Let's not forget that Wikipedia is NOT a crystal ball. -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 19:33, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
- Okay, seriously, please stop adding false information. Randy Orton is out with a broken clavicle (also known as the collarbone). His time of recovery is based on his body's ability to heal and upon his will to be rehabilitated enough to rejoin the active roster. For example, observe John Cena who was supposed to be out for well over a year. Truthfully, in accordance with his injury and the time estimated for recovery (one year or more), he shouldn't have returned till this month, yet we saw him return at the Royal Rumble. Stating that he will return in September 2008 when there hasn't even been an announcement as to the current state of his injury or when he will return is in itself false and shouldn't even be stated. Once more, please cease to add these false statements. ⒺⓋⒾⓁⒼⓄⒽⒶⓃ② talk 03:29, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
I guess technically i may have been right when he was injured with his match of Steven Regal back in april. May not have fully healed, and then the area where he injured his collar bone got hit/slammed/hurt again and now it is broken. It's odd that someone deleted my discussion and not citing my other site wasn't enough proof for the above of his injury in his match with Regal. Whoever deleted it, probably wasn't watching it on TV and didn't bother to atleast say "oh thats not enough proof". I only think if your not watching it on TV, then why the heck are you on the article, ya know? [[majinsnake|majinsnake]11 June 2008 (UTC)
- Well, you do need a source for that claim, that he got "injured" in April. But, adding Raw as a source doesn't make it reliable, since they all seem to be hurt and stuff. -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 22:52, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
Randy Orton's Return
Randy Orton is supposed to return on August 31 on the Raw/Smackdown supershow.--75.65.177.96 (talk) 23:31, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
- Really? What reliable source did you find that says that? –LAX 23:34, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
The source that I found out for his return is on www.sescoops.com.--75.65.177.96 (talk) 01:52, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
- The website is not considered a reliable source. For a list of reliable sources for professional wrestling related articles, see here. -- iMatthew T.C. 01:54, 17 July 2008 (UTC
sescoops.com is considered a reliable website for Randy orton's return. Because it tells you everything about him up-to-date.
- Lemme get this straight. It is considered reliable because "it tells you everything about Orton up-to-date"? That makes no sense whatsoever. The site is not a reliable source. Period! –LAX 18:09, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
You have to read about Randy orton's return carefully on sescoops.com because it is reliable.
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