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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by 85.138.205.175 (talk) at 21:55, 16 December 2008 (→‎She's gone.). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Madeleine's gender

How is it possible for Blaustein to be a woman? He voices Solomon Muto in Yu-Gi-Oh! with a fairly deep voice. How is it possible for a woman to pull that off? Unless Madeleine Blaustein and Adam Blaustein are two different people. Geg 16:13, 11 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I was a little confused over that at first, too. Her voice as Arngrim in Valkyrie Profile and Sabrina's father in Pokémon are very deep and would seem impossible for a woman to pull off. After seeing her bio on this site, I guess that helps explain some of her unusual vocal characteristics for a woman, though. EmperorBrandon 18:17, 8 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Blaustein is a man. If you watch the video commentary for Pokemon 4ever you will hear many times Blaustein refered to as a man. I am going to edit this page to correct this mistake.

And yet an interview with her [1] (Google cache), the link I already posted above, and databases (such as IMDb) clearly refer to her as a woman. I don't know what exactly is said on that commentary (was it stated by Blaustein?), but there needs to be more proof than that before editing. EmperorBrandon 20:15, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It's an understandably confusing issue, but basically, Maddie Blaustein is transgender (or rather, was born intersex, grew up as a man, and finally had surgery to become a woman). See here. Thus the name changes in credits from Adam to "Maddie" and so on. I'm entirely sure when the surgery occurred, though. --Andrew, Aleal 04:05, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
And another useful link, here, with photo and more details and links. Also of note, prior to the surgery and still credited as "Adam", Blaustein worked on the DC comic book Deathwish, which dealt with transgender issues. -- Aleal 04:09, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Well, the transgender thing definitely helps explain why Maddie can pull off deep, male voices like that. Should that be noted in the article? Geg 18:44, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I found this on the matter, so I suppose the transgender issue may be true...[2] Michael 19:37, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
She's a man???
Seriously...if someone is a transgender, shouldn´t his/her natural gender should be used instead of her modified? It would cause less confusion and make more sense in my opinion.
Wikipedia naming conventions are very clear that one's current gender presentation (in this case, female) is to be used, not that assigned at birth.: Self identification: When naming or writing an article about specific people or specific groups always use the terminology which those individuals or organizations themselves use. Transsexual people, for example, should be referred to using the personal pronouns (male, female, or another) that they themselves prefer. - Wikipedia:Naming conventions (identity) Falsetto 00:21, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
From all the sources (interviews, etc, some linked to above) I've read, Maddie is always referred to as "she" and female. Whatever the situation is or was, I think it's best to stay consistent with reliable sources and not change it due to speculation (that just adds to the confusion). --EmperorBrandon 18:39, 6 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WP Biography Rating

Due to a backlog it is no longer possible to give comment on ratings. Please put any comments/questions on my talk page. GDon4t0 20:36, 4 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Waddle Dee?

How can she voice Waddle Dee if he doesn't even talk? Is it a possible mistake by the editor who probably meant to put Waddle Doo instead? --Coconutfred73 20:48, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

She's gone.

www.serebii.net

She died, goddamit. Stop with the undids. Serebii.net is one of the most verifiable and the most credibil one. They know more than you'll ever do, and they get the news faster than the local news sites. So get over it. Not every edit on Wikipedia is vandalism... ~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.138.205.175 (talk) 18:10, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Whether or not it's on Serebii.net is inconsequential; without a VERIFIED reliable source, you don't have proof. Get a news article or something. NOT someone on Serebii. StupidFrog (talk) 18:14, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What so ever, she died anyway. Very soon the news will appear in your INCREDIBLE REALIABLE AND VERIFIRED NO ONE CAN DENY ABOUT sources, and then you'll be sorry for having such a hard time in coming here, editing all the stuff and trying to know more than Serebii.net. But you don't care, do you? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.138.205.175 (talk) 18:29, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Serebii.net is not omniscient. You are not either. Rumors happen constantly on fan forums. If she is, indeed, dead, then you can wait until you have a reliable source. Until then, don't bother with it. If I'm not undoing your changes, someone else will. Serebii.net forums would not classify as a reliable source -- read Wikipedia:Verifiability. Thank you, now please stop until you can get a source OTHER than Serebii.net. :) StupidFrog (talk) 18:39, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It's not a fan forum, the news is on the site itself, posted by the admin on the main page, a guy who can get the news related to Pokémon faster than any other site. I'll stop editing now, because I think it's ridiculous to spend all my day here trying to prove something right to someone who doesn't even know (or if he does, he doesn't know their capacities) what site is Serebii.net. You guys only work with cnn and bbc, I guess, so I'm out. Lets wait for the news then. By the way, there's more people believing in her death than people who don't, but we need a source that everyone knows about.85.138.205.175 (talk) 18:48, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Fan forum or fan site, it doesn't matter. I went and looked at the post myself -- Serebii does not cite any sources. I know most people believe whatever he says no matter what, however, he's still not any sort of official word. How many people believe her death is also inconsequential. None of these people who have posted or such have any proof. Thank you, however. :)! StupidFrog (talk) 18:59, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not really a reliable source, but someone other than Serebii is reporting it: [3]. Of course, if an official statement will be released soon, it might be best to wait until that comes out, and then use that as a citation. Immortal Wowbagger (talk) 20:47, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

News sites = valid sources. Fansites =/= valid sources. Mageslayer99 (talk) 21:15, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Someone cited Pokebeach. Isn't http://www.pokebeach.com also a fansite? The site even says "An official statement will be released tomorrow regarding her passing." So it's unofficial. Friendly Cave (talk) 21:45, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. Hopefully your request for protection will be enforced soon. Mageslayer99 (talk) 21:49, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, you guys really spend your time here to block something that's gonna be unlocked tomorrow? Your arrogancy and stupidity makes me feel sad, really. Get a life. 85.138.205.175 (talk) 21:55, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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