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Straw poll for selecting pics of 2008 cricketers

Photos were taken at the team parade at the training for ODIs in January/February 2009 at Adelaide Oval.

Unlike the Indian team last year, they actually took training seriously. They were all very gentlemanly. Very dignified and genial. YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 07:20, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Voting section

Simply vote and comment as follows below the individual sections.

Comment (numbering pictures from 1, 2, 3 etc, left to right) and ~~~~

Poll: Tim Southee bowling

also

1 - I like the ball being visible in the photo. Also, face not obscured by net. Pdfpdf (talk) 10:58, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
5: by far the best composition and color balance. Durova^Charge! 04:53, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
5 is excellent for showing his action - even to the extent of clearly showing his fingers and the seam. --195.194.4.65 (talk) 16:19, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
5 per above. Any of the first four at fish. --brew crewer (yada, yada) 01:20, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
5 - Probably the best pic as it's in match conditions. Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 03:45, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
5 - Clarity and action. Benders Game 23:08, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Trent Boult bowling

Hard one! 1 has ball in it; 2 is better, but no ball; 3 has great shot of ball, but not so good of Trent. 1 or 2 Pdfpdf (talk) 11:27, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
1 Durova^Charge! 05:10, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
3 - Has the ball Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 03:56, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Brendon Diamanti bowling

tossup - maybe 1 Pdfpdf (talk) 11:20, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
2 Durova^Charge! 05:12, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
2 - Brendon who? Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 03:57, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Brendon Diamanti fielding

2 Pdfpdf (talk) 11:28, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
2 Durova^Charge! 05:13, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
2 - Ball in pic and not too bright. Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 03:58, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Ashley Mallett

1 Pdfpdf (talk) 11:31, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
2 Durova^Charge! 05:14, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Albie Morkel

2 Durova^Charge! 05:15, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Ben_Hilfenhaus bowling

2- Best full expression. Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 07:56, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
1 Action with ball in frame. Durova^Charge! 05:16, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Cameron White bowling

3 Durova^Charge! 05:17, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Dale Steyn

2 Durova^Charge! 05:18, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Dale Steyn bowling

2 Durova^Charge! 05:19, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: David Hussey bowling

2 Durova^Charge! 05:21, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: David Hussey

2 Durova^Charge! 06:00, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Hashim Amla

3 Durova^Charge! 06:02, 14 April 2009 (UTC)...Sorry Durova and YM the last image has gone now - Peripitus (Talk) 12:16, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oh that guy copyvios a lot from Cricinfo, well that means one of my images stays! YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 01:26, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Herschelle Gibbs fielding

3 Durova^Charge! 06:23, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Herschelle Gibbs

2 Durova^Charge! 22:26, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Jacques Kallis

1 Durova^Charge! 22:28, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Johan Botha bowling

2 Durova^Charge! 22:30, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Johan Botha fielding

3 Durova^Charge! 03:15, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Johan Botha

5 Durova^Charge! 03:24, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: JP Duminy bowling

1 Durova^Charge! 03:53, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: JP Duminy

1 Durova^Charge! 03:56, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Les Burdett

‎

1 Durova^Charge! 03:56, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Makhaya Ntini

2 Durova^Charge! 03:59, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Makhaya Ntini bowling

2 Durova^Charge! 04:00, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Mark Boucher

2 Durova^Charge! 04:02, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Mickey Arthur

1 Durova^Charge! 04:31, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Mike Hussey bowling

1 Durova^Charge! 04:32, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Mike Hussey

1 (don't like any of them though) Durova^Charge! 04:34, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Mike Young

2 Durova^Charge! 04:34, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Mitchell Johnson bowling

2 Durova^Charge! 04:35, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Morne Morkel bowling

5 Durova^Charge! 04:36, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Morne Morkel

1 Durova^Charge! 04:37, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Nathan Hauritz bowling

2 - Hard to tell the difference! (I guess that means he's consistent!!) Pdfpdf (talk) 11:44, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
2 - Much of a muchness. He consistently bowled crap yesterday! Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 05:22, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
2 Durova^Charge! 04:38, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Nathan Hauritz

3 Durova^Charge! 04:40, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
3 Calliopejen1 (talk) 22:55, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Neil McKenzie

1 needs cropping top and left, and levels balanced though. Durova^Charge! 04:41, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
1 (agree w durova) Calliopejen1 (talk) 22:54, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Shaun Marsh

1 Durova^Charge! 04:42, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Shaun Tait bowling

1 Durova^Charge! 04:43, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: shaun Tait

3 not by much though; basically a tossup. Durova^Charge! 04:44, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
1. When you see the full version of 3 it's not as attractive. Tschravic (talk) 07:47, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
1 Calliopejen1 (talk) 22:54, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Tim Nielsen bowling

3 Durova^Charge! 04:46, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Wayne Parnell bowling

2 Durova^Charge! 04:48, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Vaughn van Jaarsveld

1 Durova^Charge! 04:51, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
1 Calliopejen1 (talk) 22:53, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Lonwabo Tsotsobe bowling

2 Durova^Charge! 04:51, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Lonwabo Tsotsobe

2 Durova^Charge! 04:53, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
1 Calliopejen1 (talk) 22:53, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Andrew Hilditch

2 Durova^Charge! 04:54, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
2 Calliopejen1 (talk) 22:52, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Everything else

Reply

Thank you so much for doing the copyedit.
Regarding your request, I've when through the names.
Can you look through the article again and let me know if their could be any other adjustments.
When you asked about FAC, do you mean a featured article class?
If so, yeah it would be cool to get it to that, hopefully.
ATC^{. Talk} 20:57, 13 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

But, how I am supposed distinguish in the filming section with the executive producers: Tim Draper, Polly Draper, Michael Wolff. If you said only last name if it is consistance. Would look like: Tim Draper, Draper, Wolff. Tim Draper is Polly's brother, so thats why I did: (Draper's brother) Tim, Ms. Draper, Wolff. Do you know a better way of wording it? ATC^{. Talk} 00:20, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If they are used in close proximity, then first names will have to be used to disambiguate them, or by using thing's like "Draper's brother" etc. YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 00:34, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Also, some of the producers information seems to be repeated twice. YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 00:34, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've fixed that minor issue in the filming section, but what do you mean that some of the producers are repeated twice?

If you are referring to the introduction section and the filming section, I had to indicate that Polly Draper wrote and directed the film in the introduction, but I had to put it in the filming section, because I was adding all of the crew there, in addition to Michael Wolff's role.
But if you are referring to Polly Draper and Michael Wolff being both producers and executive producers, which is kind of odd to me too, but that is how it is credited on the screen.

ATC^{. Talk} 20:49, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

RE:FAC

It's still being reviewed on GAA, but if we could, I'm planning on nominating it as a FAC article. ATC^{. Talk} 23:58, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Let me know how we could and for more grammar and overall article issues. ATC^{. Talk} 00:41, 16 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ok. YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 03:44, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Photo uploading

I wanted to add pictures to the development section for The Naked Brothers Band: The Movie, but I don't want to cause copyright infringement. The first photo: [1]. The second photo: [2] The second photo thats title, "Michael Wolff, Alex Wolff, Polly Draper, Nat Wolff The Hamptons International Film Festival Closing Reception and Awards Presentation October 23, 2005". Third photo: [3]. Please let me know if its legal in this case, and if you could take care of copyright uploading, and if I should pay for one of the photos. ATC^{. Talk} 20:31, 16 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well at the moment they are copyright. If you pay royalties for usage like a newspaper, it still won't be permissible because it would still be under copyright unless you buy the copyrights to it and then make it public domain. WP:FU wouldn't work here as the photos don't show anything hard to understand/visualise/iconic, unlike Thich Quang Duc, it's just a portrait and replaceable with a free image in theory (by metting them and taking a photo). IT would be easier if you tried emailing them/their agent and asking them nicely, most likely. YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 03:44, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

But how do they not? Two indicates them winning the audiunce award. I will and know exactly who to contact. Thanx! ATC^{. Talk} 15:54, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Internet & Cricket

Internets normal speed now any ways :) Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 06:02, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Do you watch the IPL on the internet? Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 07:07, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You mena officially? No. Bootleg on blogspot sites etc, sometimes, YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 07:51, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I got sick of searching for live stream until I found t20.com the other day. Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 08:33, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm I wonder how much a set top box is? YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 01:25, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah yeah, Forgot about the pics, get there soon ;) I though Deccan would go alright but didn't give Bangalore much chance... and it's really only been because of Taylor. The IPL coverage has been dreadful.. Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 10:27, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Can't believe Mumbai did so poorly. I should have factored into account SRT's pretty uninspiring leadership skills YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 01:07, 22 May 2009 (UTC) Interesting how Deccan and Bangaluru both played each other in the final. Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 04:03, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Heh, I wrote them off as the worst two as did everyone else. At least I predicted 3, 4 and 5 in the right order I guess! I should have factored in the 80% chance of Watson falling over! YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 04:08, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Watto won't last the Ashes! I thought Deccan would win last year... Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 04:32, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

He'll be better than Symonds I think YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 07:14, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kareena Kapoor

Hi. As you can see I've now edited this article. Can you read through it when you have a mo and see if you can spot any MOS or grammatical errors. I plan on proposing for an FA in a few days. It needs some fresh eyes to look at it. Thanks.Dr. Blofeld (talk) 14:26, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. The only thing of her I have experienced is the film Asoka and reading on BBC about people complaining about her kissing in public YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 01:25, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Content and tone looks fine. It needs a copyedit. I don't know anything about these films or reviewers/outlets so I don't know if anything is dlieberately/accidentally missing/has too much weight or some non-mainstream opinion is cited too much. You'll get flak about the FU images again, as to what iconic imagery it adds, I'm not sure it adds anything at all. YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 03:12, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah I need some fresh eyes on it for sure. I appreciate you looking at it. I can see Mr. Monkey has a lot of copyediting to do, poor animal! I'm not going to nominate it until several people have given it a thorough copy edit and I receive some feedback from Karanacs. You can write an article until you are blue in the face but at FAC people come up with a huge number of what seem pretty minor problems and when there are so many other articles that are stubs like our Vietnamese districts I feel guilty editing an article for too long. I'll ask Shahid, to be honest the first image of the "cosmetic beauty" does my head in! I wouldn't object if we moreved the first and last image anyway. I think the middle one is appropriate given that it was a major turning point in her career. Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 09:41, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, I wonder why people like to list the publisher as bbc.com or indiatimes.com. A bit odd really. I think the publisher is the company not its online url. YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 01:07, 22 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Second opinion ?

YM, Can you review the editing of these two recently created accounts: Ib40 (talk · contribs) and E6nvikas (talk · contribs) ? Both are SPAs creating various articles on an organization "EduCare India" (which is, at best, borderline notable) and adding references to its projects, internship programs and chief project director (Balljinder) on various unrelated articles. Some articles that the two have created:

, i.e.india (Internship in EduCARE India) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
EduCARE India (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
International Internship in India (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Baljinder (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
International internship programme in EduCARE India (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Educare India (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Applied Research (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Ruraldevse (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

They have also spammed Intern, Seva, Educare etc. Some of the above have been redirected and some earlier creations, like File:Educare india logo.JPG, already deleted.
Besides issues of Notability, Walled Garden, Spam, COI (they claim to be friends and eVolunteers for the organization) and misrepresentation of sources (see Internship in India‎), they also seem to edit "in time blocks" - which makes me suspect sock-puppetry. If/when you have the time can you take a look if my suspicions are reasonable and suggest what (SPI, CSD, AFD ...) should be done ? I don't want to BITE genuinely new users on the one hand, but don't want want to expend too much time AGFing with spammers either. Thanks. Abecedare (talk) 05:51, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, socks YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 01:07, 22 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for looking into this. I'll look over the remaining articles to see if there is something useful that can be salvaged. Abecedare (talk) 13:35, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Norwe (talk · contribs): another sock ? Abecedare (talk) 03:42, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

YEs, indef and maind acct for 3 months YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 03:51, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Amazing how many times he expects us to fall for the "just a friend" story!

Hope you got a laugh out of, "I'm certainly little more cerebral than YellowMonkey after looking at the contributions and subject areas of interest". :) Abecedare (talk) 03:59, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I hadn't noticed that drivel actually LOL :) YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 04:01, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Now you know. Reexamining your life, yet ? :) Abecedare (talk) 04:08, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

YES YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 07:14, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Before you think too hard, Norwest2 (talk · contribs) looks like he's from the same drawer (GlobalPEACE is part of EduCARE India, apparently). Priyanath ^talk 05:56, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Direct hit again. Main account to six months YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 06:59, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Able Archer

Yep. Problem is that I let a lot of things in RL go during the school year and now I am trying to get both my RL issues and Wikipedia issues out of the way at the same time. Additionally, I am trying to locate the older sources given in the article by Natebjones, but so far have had no luck with that endeavor. Be patient. TomStar81 (Talk) 10:47, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Question

I'm sorry, but I can't find the reply you were talking about on my talk page.
Where'd you reply?
Thanx!
ATC^{. Talk} 01:21, 22 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The fair use one YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 01:36, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Vietnam

Which of my sources is un reliable, and which fact I claim it supports is wrong?[[Slatersteven (talk) 14:35, 22 May 2009 (UTC)]][reply]

Jim Cairns. Pro-Vietcong activiest YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 01:36, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Karnow, p. 254-255 is the one YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 02:51, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I belive that my point was that you cannot find sources using just a word search, but that you cannot tell what the source actualy says. I should ave been clearer on that point. But as I had constantly said before that that I do not challenge the claim in article I assumed that it would be relaised that as I had said "Google Books doesn't support preview of that item, so again cannot be verified. In fact that whole of your book search suffers from this problom." tend to imply (again I should have been clearer) that I did not beleve that word searching in google books search is a relble source. pages 254-255 talk about the attitude of the US administratio to nation building and the question of greater intervention, no mention of any assasinations, perhaps you mis read the page numbers. [[Slatersteven (talk) 12:51, 26 May 2009 (UTC)]][reply]

I don't use a word search, snippets don't work, you need at least a full page. Also, with Karnow and most of my books, I use hardcopy. Are you working with the 1997 edition? I am YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 03:32, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that snipets don't work that was my popint, that using snipets you can find sources for facts you don't agree with, but oddly you were the only person to question its use (perhaps becasue you were not relying on snipets). The Copy of Karnow I am using (I assume you mean Vietnam a History) is the 1987 edition.[[Slatersteven (talk) 12:36, 28 May 2009 (UTC)]][reply]

My library has a 1983 version and it was about page 236-240 IIRC. But it is in the closing stages of the "America's mandarin" chapter in both 1983 and 1997 so I guess it should still be there in 1987. But just look at the back of the AM chapter and scroll backwards. YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 01:34, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ARVN collective term

It seems like you and I are having a battle on this page - you keep undoing my edits. I don't have sources for why I know that it is a generic term but it's just something I've gathered over the years of reading various books. If you look at this wiki encyclopedia which is edited by University graduates and sorts. http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/ARVN You'll see that they say the same thing. Also I'm sure that you've read many books where they wrongfully slander the ARVN - I'm sure that you'll agree that they mean all the VNCH armed forces, when they say this. Also the Republic Of Viet Nam Navy is VNN not RVN - please don't undo this! ~ Annhoang —Preceding unsigned comment added by Annhoang (talk • contribs) 07:00, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If you mention that is (incorrectly) used generically, then it's fine if you have a source. Most people say "ARVN general" for land generals, I can remember maybe 1 out of 20 books that incorrectly referred to Ky as a "general" when he was an air force officer. YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 01:36, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers YellowMonkey. Yes I agree with you that it is incorrectly used. I've even read here where they've said "ARVN didn't include any VNN in this operation" implying that VNN was a part of the ARVN. http://books.google.com.au/books?id=1BN7s6DZGB8C&pg=PA55&lpg=PA55&dq=ARVN+didn%27t+provide+vnn&source=bl&ots=_w7zt7vqRM&sig=IBKv4mvFsebg4KW-rYmh_vCDpXg&hl=en&ei=MiYbSuenO5GVkAXf74TiDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1. Yes many books are incorrect about the Vietnam War, but I find that in recent years, a lot of former RVN soldiers are beginning to tell their story with media outlets such as the internet - so hopefully more of the truth will be made public.Template:Unisigned

Closing FARs

If you need anything regarding FAR and I'm not around you can email me or leave me a message on my talk page. Joelito (talk) 23:02, 24 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sure YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 01:36, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Time to rally the troops

I think it is! Especially Hobart, as that's embarrassing! Adelaide looks very close. Did you see my post on the Adelaide talk page? Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 07:27, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I did that's why I made that comment. Also Canberra and History of the ACT need more refs to avoid de-FAing. I got some books and did some last year but it's still a sitting duck really YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 07:29, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed that about Canberra when I based the Launceston, Tasmania art on it when I resurrected it from ruins. Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 07:33, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

At the moment people are going through Wikipedia:Unreviewed featured articles from oldest to newest. Lake Burley Griffin will be under the hammer soon, and Fauna of Australia and Yarralumla and a few others.... lots to do YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 07:37, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think a little ad-template like the Invincibels might be useful YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 07:37, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oh and on the Ganguly read I posted that latest comment and yes it was a copy of a comment I read from you, as I was too lazy to put it into my own words, lol. Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 07:35, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

On the blog you mean? YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 07:37, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oh they just came through. Did your comments pop up straight away? I turned on a "comment moderation" option because a person, I think it was a sock of of Star cricketer (talk · contribs) because it was Brett Lee idoliser who referred to Wikipedia, kept on swamping the blog with abuse. YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 07:40, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yep I do. Locals weren't too happy..! My comment viewed straight away for me.... Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 07:41, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Obviously the comment moderation is broken then....Yes, ah Star cricketer, he made scoks just to vandalise my page and the Harbhajan article... and created a vandal article blnguyen.... he used to fill up Binga's article with fluff about how Lee is a great singer, guitarist, fashino designer etc..... "firepower and hostility" everywhere YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 07:45, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

At least your an admin and have the powers to block him ;). Annoys me how I've got to report it and then the vandals eventually get another chance, as some admins are short of time and it all starts over again.. Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 07:53, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

He hasn't edited since May 2007 as far as I can tell. YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 07:55, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Probably has another account. Although I Suppose you admins have to be careful as I've been wrongly blocked for sockpuppetry. Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 07:58, 25 May 2009 (UTC) That was one was CU direct hit. Was yours done with a CU? YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 08:00, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure, but anyway I now personally know the alleged sock. Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 08:04, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Typical, I suppose. Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 05:45, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In recent times, most of the Australian GA/FA people have fallen off the perch. Only the military history guys are left, more or less. YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 07:41, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I Thought you were a gownna at one stage as well.. anyway doesn't seem like your mates at WP:AWNB seem to be too interested. ;( Temperature shock for you in Adelaide after the hot summer! Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 10:52, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, lloks like if I write articles for a certain project, the rest drop dead. The monkey must have a poisonous smell ! YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 03:32, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Plots

You could try. Most people would probably argue though that merely a plot alone is not notable neough to constitute an article. It can be frustrating when somebody cuts down a plot. My plot for Seven Years in Tibet (film) is too long too but seems to the a better job of describing the film than a short and snappy version would. Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 08:47, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think making some subarticle for full plots is a great idea. I don't think giving the entire plot in minute detail is necessary, because then why will someone be interested to watch a film? In addition, there are tags for long plots which makes them unacceptable. I think a subarticle can be very useful for those interested. Only then will readers have a choice to read whatever they prefer, and your hard work will not be wasted. What do you think? Shahid • ^Talk2me 19:38, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Let's go then.... but hmm, film plots have no source apart from the film itslef. I wonder if people will call OR? YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 02:51, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think this should be a problem. I mean, plots have never had sources even in the film articles, so why should this be a problem in a separate article? I think citing an external IMDB link or whatever would suffice. ? Shahid • ^Talk2me 16:21, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Macartney

Check your mail... Very busy in RL at the moment but hope to be back on Claggy soon. -- Mattinbgn\^talk 07:32, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Just found out the library bought a copy of Haigh's "The Summer Game" in the last few months! Splendid for the Harvey/Davidson/O'Neill era ! YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 07:41, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Why?????

May I know why you delisted Mumbai from FA? Was any consensus even reached? Hometech (talk) 08:48, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've answered below. What is your opinion of Nikkul sir? YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 03:32, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Molobo's SPI case

Dear YellowMonkey,

You've got another mail. It contains some questions. After doing your CU analysis, please post your result on this page.

Have a nice day! AdjustShift (talk) 15:28, 26 May 2009 (UTC) Ok YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 03:32, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Socks

Thank you! I'm fine, thanks, and still around after almost 4 years, and after almost leaving a few times. I noticed your battle awhile back, and agree with others that you aren't quite ready for the glue factory yet. And I also appreciated a somewhat veiled reference you made to the mess, and the fallout, from the India editors brouhaha a couple years back. There are still some good people here, including yourself, so it's still worthwhile. Best regards, Priyanath ^talk 01:53, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, someone understood my cryptic reference! I thought it was pretty obvious but some folks didn't notice. Unfortunately for any subcontinent Wikiprojects or Wikipedias, I don't think there is much hope, because of the average outlook of the editors. At the moment there are no disputes but once a few people come again, the the disputes and riots will start all over again. With the average attitude in this area, it takes very little to spark axe-grinding and long term harassment, usually all pretty subtle, but pretty obvious to anyone who has spent a few hours here. Some will burst into major bloodletting. And all over ego as well, POV differences are never the real cause of the dispute. Did you know that at the end of 2006 two guys had a fight over who would be the "head" of the Indian IRC channel and then they emailed a lot of people saying how the other guy was a double-dealer etc etc, and then they split into two IRC channels..... YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 03:32, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It was cryptic enough that I think only someone involved would have got it, and there aren't many of us left here. Well, the most productive WikiProjects are the ones with the most harmony and the least ego, but the internets aren't exactly conducive for that, nor are national WikiProjects with countless regions/groups/castes/religions. I think India is truly a miracle as it is. And no, I didn't know about the IRC dispute, which makes me even more happy that I never use it.... Priyanath ^talk 05:20, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mumbai

Hello YellowMonkey. Mumbai has been demoted. Here is the FAR. The main FA concern were citations and lead, which were adequately addressed. The article has 177 High quality References as of today. You can compare the version of the Page when it was submitted for FAR and version of the Page as of today. There was still no strong consensus for delisting the article on the FAR Page. We are not very sure why the article was delisted. Thankyou, Kensplanet^T _C 08:41, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, MF also added in some complaints about prose so I had to check them to see if they were valid (It is allowable for a person to turn up late and bring up more requests for improvement). He is a more difficult judge than I am and more reflective of mainstream FAC thinking, and I looked at the article and I found a lot of opportunities for improvement and I have implemented some of them. As Nikkul just voted "keep" right at the very start, he indicated he thought nothing was wrong/no need to work even from the start, and in the last 10 days you have been fully concentrating on another Mumbai article after voting "keep" so I took it as a sign that you weren't going to do any more work and were disregarding MF. Anyway some examples, I have implemented the specific ones and explained examples because there are often patterns involved. With the more formulaic ones I didn't do them all specifically as it is obvious YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 01:04, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Use of "like" instead of "such as"
54-word sentence
Part of history section in the lead
long sentences
Lots of "which" eg "Mumbai's per-capita income is Rs. 48,954 (US$ 980) which is almost three times the national average", needs a comma before which. Multiple cases of this

"Due to [] shortage of cricket grounds, modified versions of cricket (generically referred to as galli cricket) with varying rules are played everywhere"
- In general, it's considered a good prose practice to avoid using the same words multiple times in the same sentence, so as you already mention cricket in the previous sentence, you can say "Due to [a] shortage of ~~cricket~~ grounds, [various] modified versions ~~of cricket~~ (generically referred to as galli cricket) ~~with varying rules~~ are played everywhere" - It's more concise to add "various" at the front instead of "with varying rules" as the single adjective clearly implies that the "modified versions" are different
"The Mumbai cricket team represents ~~Mumbai~~ [the] city in the Ranji Trophy, India's domestic cricketing circuit, and is one of the most successful teams"
- There is also a factual error; the Ranji Trophy is not India's domestic cricket circuit. It is merely a component, eg Hazare Trophy for one dayers, Duleep T for zonal comps, Irani, Deodhar, IPL.... Another piece of info (not a problem) is that Mumbai *is* the most successful in terms of Ranji Trophy wins by far.
"The city has two international cricket stadiums, the Wankhede Stadium and the Brabourne Stadium" consider using "grounds" to avoid exc repetition of "stadiums" and in the next sentence, there is an inconsistency with "Wankhede stadium"... I guess if they were far apart I might have missed it
"The Wankhede stadium is set to host the final of 2011 Cricket World Cup and is currently undergoing expansion and renovation and preparation for the aforementioned event" can be more compactly stated
- "The Wankhede Stadium is currently undergoing expansion and renovation in preparation for the final of 2011 Cricket World Cup" - 20% economisation, "aforementioned event" can be eliminated and sentence made more direct.

Refs in the cricket paragraph only cover Gavaskar, BCCI, and popularity
Similar in the second paragraph

"Football (Soccer)" Soccer should not be capitalised as it is not a proper noun. Football is capitalised because it is the start of a sentence
Single digit numbers should be spelt out
"[The] Popularity of field hockey has ~~gone into decline~~ declined, losing out to cricket" The second part also should be rephrased as it is odd to say that popularity "loses out" to sport. One option/team/person etc loses out to the other, not the popularity of one option losing out to the other one.
"Mumbai is home to the Maratha Warriors, one of the few teams competing for the Premier Hockey League (PHL) from Maharashtra"
- "from Maharashtra" needs to be moved to the front to make it clear that the team is from MR not the PHL.
"Every February, Mumbai holds the Derby races in the Mahalaxmi Racecourse"
"In March 2004, the Mumbai Grand Prix was ~~held as~~ part of the F1 powerboat world championship"
"In 2004, the annual Mumbai Marathon was established in a bid to bring the sport to the Indian public" I think "athletic discipline" is a more apt term than "sport", as off spin, wicket-keeping, 4x100m relay etc aren't considered sports in their own right.
Horeracing info is two separate parts

Looking at the last two paragraphs of the Education section

Only the three bits about the oldest institutions are given. However, all are self-sourced. Third party sources are preferable ("high quality" again), because basically all schools publish misleading propaganda. My university says it "has" a Nobel Prize winner currently on the staff, but this is false; he is a retired man in his 70s who immigrated here and agreed to be take an ambassadorial role, he isn't paid or anything. My old high school also claimed it is the oldest public school in the state, but it misleadingly took the day of government authorisation as the "founding", whereas other schools opened earlier. My old high school also said that on their website that we "defeated" the other schools in a maths competition. Actually we only got 9 awards and some other school got 30, so a lot of organisations just flagrantly publish nonsense about themselves.
"such as law, engineering, medicine etc" -> "such as law, engineering and medicine"; such as means they are examples, so etc is not needed because there are more that are not given
Refs for largest, best are missing

"Marathi Film Industry" not a proper noun
"~~Film~~ studios in Goregaon, including Film City, are the location for most movie sets" Redundant
"Tv" and "tv" inconsistent and probably should not be abbreviated for formal language
"Popular news channels entirely dedicated to Mumbai and Maharashtra include [the] Marathi news channels Star Majha, Zee 24 Taas, and Sahara Samay Mumbai"
[159] sources the radio but what about the stuff all above?
"Mumbai has numerous newspaper publications[,] ~~and~~ television and radio stations"
Some TV channels in italics and others not?

GENERALITIES

mixture of AmE and BrE
common nouns capitalised when not used as prefix title. eg we say "Major General X" but "there are five major generals in the army" and "Prime Minister Gandhi said" but "There have been five prime ministers"
Some acronyms with no explanation or link
"and" is used over "&" per MOS, Unless it is an official name "Cobb & Co.", for book authors, need "Green and Fairclough"
Lots of inconsistent formats/styles, italics for some TV stations, not for others. See below.

SOURCES

Green and Fairclough; this book is classified as "juvenile nonfiction" by libraries, probably because of its simplistic style, lots of pictures etc
Mixed citation formats: First name, surname and surname, first name used. A mixture of date formats. Some page formats have "." after the number and some don't. Some number ranges still use hyphens
some of the Cites say "ToI" and others say "TToI" inconsistent
Inconsistencies in the further reading

Most FAC regulars are a lot tougher than I am and better at spotting prose. I am very soft. I bet Laser brain (talk · contribs) Tony1 (talk · contribs) MF etc would find at least 50% more improvement opportunities. YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 01:04, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've changed the sports parts so far. YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 01:04, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've tweaked the media and education ones as wlel. YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 03:37, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thankyou, for the explanation. I agree the article is not up to FA standards. Kensplanet^T _C 04:34, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
We though we had successfully dealt with Referencing n Lead issues. We never thought that Prose was the main issue. Even the main FAR concerns were Referencing and Lead. Had we known, we would have tried to improve the Prose instead of concentrating on REFs. After some excellent copyedits by Hometech, we though even the Prose was well improved. Anyway, Thankyou, Kensplanet^T _C 04:42, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It is still a relatively good article. An FA doesn't mean that there are no improvements that can be made, it just means that they are not obvious to spot. Do you think Hometech is really as new as his account? YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 06:36, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Might be best for this sort of discussion to take place at the talk page of WP:FAR, or the talk page of the closed FAR subpage for that former FA, instead of YellowMonkey's talk page. Cirt (talk) 04:49, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with and endorse the FAR close as appropriate. The article could stand to be improved significantly, and there were unaddressed concerns at the FAR. Cirt (talk) 06:27, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

As for your comment about Indian cities, the FA bar rises a lot so a lot of articles written in late-2007 and before on all kinds of topics will not pass FAC if they were put in now. YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 06:59, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hey , I just checked Hometech's talk page. You were the first one to recognize him as Nichalp. So, he is a reincarnation of Nic. Kensplanet^T _C 11:49, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Minor copyedit request

Hi, User:YellowMonkey,
I had to do a minor expansion in the "Background" section—adding "Music"—for The Naked Brothers Band: The Movie so I could nominate it as a featured article.
I wanted to ask you if you could fix some minor grammar, as I am not phenomenal at it.
Thanx!
ATC^{. Talk} 23:52, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sure YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 01:04, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. :) ATC^{. Talk} 01:34, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done but the sentence about being angry I didn't understand it. YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 03:32, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, since Alex is a boy and the lyric in the song: "She's insane", was written because at the time Nat was angry, he decide to call him a she. ATC^{. Talk} 11:43, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Separate

You fork the part "Etymology of the Vietnam War" from Vietnam War. In that Vietnam War article, I think the part "Other countries' involvement" should be put on a separate article, too. 69.234.221.250 (talk) 00:00, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Probably if they don't merge into the main body YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 01:04, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar

		The Copyeditor's Barnstar
		I give you this barnstar in honor of your help and fabulous copyedit. And I know you could write the telephone book, hah. Thank you again. ATC^{. Talk} 01:39, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 03:32, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

York Park

Yes I'm at it again! I know your a busy man, but would you mind again quickly looking over the York Park art, keeping in mind Talk:York Park/GA3. Also, do you support moving the "Northern Stand redevelopment" section to "History' >>> Sorry to be a pain. Thanks Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 06:19, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. I think think redevs are supposed to be in the history/evolution YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 06:36, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

And with the Mumbai art, being a rare Tasmanian to edit on here I can understand your frustration, it's just that your probably the best article writer on here I know. Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 06:30, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not at all. See the likes of Awadewit (talk · contribs), Cla68 (talk · contribs) and WillowW (talk · contribs) and see how they exhaustively read up so many books. It's easier to write a cricket biog as there is less dependence on background info, but for wars etc, lots of sources give conflicting info but for scorecards they all agree. I just found a book called "The Summer Game" by Gideon Haigh and need to broaden my cricket FAs with the extra info. And as for tough people, Willow said that Phan Dinh Phung was only just B-class but it passed FA with only minor changes after....Willow is really meticulous. I'm soft, press my belly! YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 06:36, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ha, well don't know how they do it... Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 06:47, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Awadewit, probably a very distant relative. Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 06:51, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Awadewit is scholar of English literature in RL. Willow is a science professor I think. Oh, there will be questions about undue weight because 50% of the history is about the last 10 years. YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 06:59, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I've been thinking that would be the case, but there really is nothing about on what happened before 1998. Even in the few books on Lauceston's history, there is virtually nothing, in fact there is more on the NTCA Ground. Probably because not much went on there until late. Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 08:09, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks muchly :) Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 08:17, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If it was a paddock then there might be nothing to say. YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 01:34, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Internets stopped working, I'm on my Ipod! Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 23:01, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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MarshallBagramyan

Hi, as you probably already know, this editor is a party to an ongoing arbitration request. Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case#Moses_of_Chorene Could you please make a statement about the results, and also forward the correspondence to the committee, or one member of the committee if you don't want me to see it. John Vandenberg ^(chat) 14:31, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Actually I didn't know. I don't think the other arbs will be bothered if their arbitration parties go AWOL, but anyway, there is hardly anything to explain as it is easier for them to simply look for themselves if they are bothered. YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 01:34, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]