Talk:Lady Gaga

She wrote music for Blue Kids On The Block?

The article states she wrote music for established artists and includes NKOTB, but they were only active from 1984-1990, and she was born in 1986.72.24.140.168 (talk) 07:13, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Nevermind, I should have read more into the NKOTB article, where it explains it.72.24.140.168 (talk) 07:15, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Consider creating a user, Anywho she wrote Big Girl Now which is feat. on their new album. Think more abstractly next time. Hey Boys and Girls (Welcome to the Show…) ° 00:41, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Greek Descent?

I read on a site that her mother is 100% Greek,father 100% Italian,making her 50/50. Sorry for lack of citation,just type "Is Lady Gaga Greek?"in a search engine and multiple citations should come up. --Krasi183 (talk) 00:38, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Public image and media

This may be a section that should be included, but as it stands information on her hair color is irrelevant. I'm deleting it for now to clean up the article, but it would be nice if someone who knows more on the subject and its importance could come in and create a section that is of some value. (Lewzer99 (talk) 20:23, 16 May 2009 (UTC))

Thank you for your contribution (now that was irrelevant). if you know Gaga well, then you should know that this is one quite a long story 9somone back me up here0. Any who the section, is needed. Hey Boys and Girls (Welcome to the Show…) ° 00:44, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

I couldn't find a proper spot for this. But, the article seems very bias. It's as if the idiot who runs perez hilton wrote it. Lady Gaga is musician. She is not a saint, and she's had a one year carrer creating music. This website is supposed to be an encylopedia, not a fan page. It seems as if her page was written by fans, not scholars. Address this.

Could you please give specific examples of bias in the article, maybe we can fix them. — R² 15:12, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

New Section Ideas

Fashion - Lady Gaga has some of the most elaborate fashion sense of any artists to date but none of this is mentioned.

August Break- Lady Gaga's production managers gave her the month of August off work.

Business Endorsements: Beats by Dr.Dre are all seen in most of her music videos and promotional videos.

Haus of Gaga: Lady Gaga's creative team who has produced most of her stage outfits, short films, etc.

Backup Dancers: She knocked one of thems tooth out.

Personal Life: Dating a man named Speedy whom she met on the set of her new "LoveGame" music video. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.91.223.175 (talk) 04:05, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

sources are needed, guidelines are used to tell us what is encyclopedic. Hey Boys and Girls (Welcome to the Show…) ° 04:49, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Inspiration.influence

There is a difference between the two, so I think we should catogries them. I bring this up because of Gaga on ellen, in which she states ellen is an inspiration to her and the gay community. Hey Boys and Girls (Welcome to the Show…) ° 04:13, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

How on earth can anyone think that Lady Gaga was influenced by David Bowie and Queen? It almost looks like more of the "this is what glam rock is" stuff that gets pushed into articles all over Wikipedia. 85.160.0.184 (talk) 13:20, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Probably because she said they were her influences. The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) 22:06, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Oh sure, and maybe Hitler Hairdo were influenced by Radiohead. Maybe her name came from the song "Radio Gaga." 85.207.121.59 (talk) 16:02, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

I think the problem is that it's written "Musically, she is inspired by glam rockers such as David Bowie and Queen...", which is inaccurate. It should read maybe "Visually, she is inspired..." Musically, Gaga's music is dance-house-eurodance, not glam. But her look is obviously glam inspired.

NewNowNext Award 2009

Lady Gaga was nominated for one.

Is their website a valid source? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.91.223.175 (talk) 23:16, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

I love it how her song titles and album are so original and not inspired by David Bowie at all.

She really does not compare to the latter individual in the slightest. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.137.255.59 (talk) 11:23, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

MMVA 2009 Nomination

Lady Gaga was nominated for MMVA this year! This should be added to Awards & Nominations —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.91.223.175 (talk) 00:00, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Awesome! Could you provide the source where you found it? Sparks Fly 00:06, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm sure there on the wikipedia page for the MMVA's —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.91.223.175 (talk) 19:31, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Fashion

The Fashion section needs to be updated. Its been long since the Christina mayhem and her fashion sense has appeared in media for other reasons also. Fame Ball tour fashion needs to be covered as is the controversy regarding the Hussein Chalayan ripp off bubble dress. Any thoughts? --Legolas ^(talk2me) 05:32, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

I actually think all the fashion info needs to be dispersed into the main test of the article, not given it's own section. It's a violation of WP:UNDUE and is more likely to collect trivial info. — R² 11:53, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm. Interesting thought. But do you think we can chip in the fashion comments in between the article? Wouldn't it seem too dispersed? --Legolas ^(talk2me) 03:44, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes I agree, it needs some comments about her negative fashion, there has been some critisim. Hey Boys and Girls (Welcome to the Show…) ° 06:58, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

I think it would be much better to disperse the relevant info rather than give it an entire isolated section. — R² 01:20, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes but it would cluttered if you know what I mean. A new section should be about her music, well should it not? Hey Boys and Girls (Welcome to the Show…) ° 05:04, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

I have made some changes to the article. That Philanthropy section was completely necessary and has been merged to the main article. Also the section titled Fashion has been renamed as Inflences and styles because I believe it will later on deal with not only fashion but musical style, performance and influences of other artists. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 09:54, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

It's a great addition, but the bubble dress has been mentioned in some interviews. She says she tried to buy it but it was too expensive so she made on herself. There are a lot of sources regarding her fashion people should look into them more often. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.91.223.175 (talk) 18:17, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Birth Year

How can she be born in 1986 and be 19-years old in 2007? I'm changing the first line of "music career" to "when she was 21". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.46.58.5 (talk) 12:55, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

My guess would be that the person who added the year to the header was not the same person who wrote that sentence. She was signed to Def Jam when she was 19 (look at the source given[1]) but that was not in 2007. Siawase (talk) 08:50, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Sexuality, would die if not famous and likes girly me

She states her sexualitiy is private (BS) and yes she does like girly me and states she will die if not famous (OCD). Can it go on the article. Soures-http://www.thecelebritycafe.com/features/27958.html - http://www.theinsider.com/news/2199543_Lady_GaGa_Likes_Girly_Boys - http://newsblaze.com/story/20090524081553reye.nb/topstory.html Hey Boys and Girls (Welcome to the Show…) ° 07:03, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

One thing, the sources actually state Wikipedia, hence fails as RS. Also, too tabloidy to be worthy of WP:NOTABILITY. If there is any instance about Gaga being bi-sexual, however, speculations are not encyclopedic. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 07:51, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

The quote about fame appear to originate from this [2] interview with The Independent, which is certainly a reliable source. However I don't think that particular quote carries a lot of WP:WEIGHT, but there might be other material in that article that woule be useful. Siawase (talk) 08:46, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for sorting that out :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.46.58.5 (talk) 11:31, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Rolling Stone is credible, yeah? 76.116.73.125 (talk) 20:52, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Of course Rolling Stone is credible. And since in this month's Rolling Stone interview Gaga admitted many things about bisexuality I think it can go in the article. But before adding I want consensus regarding this from other editors also. So everybody, please put your valid inputs keeping in mind the BLP we aredealing with. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 08:30, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Unless she's had a public relationship with a woman I very much doubt her sexuality is that notable. It's really not that big a deal over her in Europe. — R² 10:38, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

If reliable sources consider it important enough to discuss (which they do), then there is no reason to exclude this information here. Notability is anyway not a criteria for including information, only for deciding if a subject should have a separate article. Once notability is proven, all non-trivial sourced information should be used.YobMod 11:31, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

(indent reset) I agree that Rolling Stone passes the reliability test. As YobMod said, it's important enough to have been discussed in multiple reliable sources now. Based on that, it can go in. I can't think of a reason why it shouldn't go in. —C.Fred (talk) 12:12, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

I agree. However this should go under influences and no undue weight should be given. As I believe, from BLP point of view it is very trivial what is one's sexual preference. Hence, only that particular line from Rolling Stone, where she says she is turned on by beautiful women can go. Something like "Gaga has stated that she is bisexual in nature and cites beautiful women as one of her influences also" should be enough followed by the RS. By the way, the relationship with the drummer and his influence can be definitely added. --Legolas ^(talk2me)

These is no reason to exclude the information. Mentioning she's bisexual (and proud) doesn't mean we have to go on about it for five paragraphs. her support of LGBT social movements should also be mentioned as part of her influences. The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) 06:43, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Lady GaGa history

We should mention some really formidable feats:

In Canada, she has 3 number one singles and her first two, Just Dance and Poker Face have both gone six times platinum, something that no other artist has accomplished. Source:http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/May2009/26/c7506.html

Pokerface has the most radio airplay in history. (It was in an interview by MTV with GaGa on the set of Wale's Chillin' video when she explicitly said herself that Pokerface had set a record. If someone can find a reliable source, that would be great)

First artist in nearly ten years to have his/her first two singles hit Number one. Source:http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/lady-gaga-draws-a-pair-of-no-1s-1003957967.story

Madonna and her daughter Lourdes, Zac Posen, and Cyndi lauper attended her New York City show at Terminal 5 and Perez Hilton and Kanye West attended her Los Angeles show at the Wiltern Theater. Source: http://newsroom.mtv.com/2009/05/04/lady-gaga-brings-out-madonna-cyndi-lauper-for-nyc-show AND http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2009/03/16/lady-gagas-fame-attracts-kanye-west-perez-hilton-to-la-show/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.26.82.62 (talk) 06:27, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

today she is now 24 years old —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.79.113.76 (talk) 20:11, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

The articles implies that she both graduated from NYU and withdrew early to pursue a career. azerbo (talk) 16:47, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Questionable citation

'Alongwith Christina, her image and fashion sense has been channeled by other celebrities like Paris Hilton and Nicole Ritchie'

- yes... according to a university newspaper (citation 53).

I think the word 'allegedly' belongs here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.242.116.149 (talk) 12:01, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Adding External Link

i'd like to add a link to the external links section. I have put together my own wiki just for music videos and would like to add a link to this artist's page on my wiki.

http://www.linkarmada.com/wiki/Lady_Gaga

to comply with COI rules, i am posting the link here for review of other editors for inclusion.

thanks. --Terrestri (talk) 02:16, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Rolling stone image of Gaga

I added the image and it was taken off, due to it does not have encyclopedic value. I think it does. Image-File:GagaRollingStone.jpg Hey Boys and Girls (Welcome to the Show…) ° 05:00, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

It has no encyclopedic value unless third party sources comment on the photograph itself as they did for Janet Jackson and Britney Spears. Those were two of the most widely discussed covers in the magazine's history. So far, nothing encyclopedic has been said about Gaga's cover. The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) 05:06, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Exactly, also the Poker Face image should not be added in the article as it is strictly for that article and is of no encyclopedic value at all in relation to the BLP article. If third party coverage regarding the RS cover releases, then it can go in the article. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 05:30, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Here are third party sources-http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2009/05/28/lady-gaga-gets-naked-for-rolling-stone-cover-shoot-see-her-sexy-pictures-here-115875-21396568/ http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1189132/Lady-GaGa-poses-semi-nude-Rolling-Stone-My-attraction-women-makes-boyfriends-uncomfortable.html http://www.thetimes.co.za/PrintEdition/Insight/Article.aspx?id=1009218 http://www.gigwise.com/article.php?id=51053&image=2#gallery http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/entertainment/Celebrities_Who_Dare_To_Bare_It_All.html http://www.columbusdispatch.com/live/content/life/stories/2009/05/28/PEO28_ART_05-28-09_D6_88E0BI6.html?sid=101

http://network.nationalpost.com/np/error.htm?aspxerrorpath=/np/themes/blogs/nationalpost/post.aspx http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/music/features/Lady+Gagas+Bizarre+Rolling+Stone+Cover-8422.html http://www.blueblood.net/2009/05/lady-gaga-naked/ http://www.clickliverpool.com/clocked/celeb-stories/124556-lady-gaga-naked-rolling-stone-cover-shoot.html http://www.ampradio.com/2009/05/lady-gaga-and-rolling-stone/ http://interscope.com/artist/news/default.aspx?nid=21670&aid=599 Hey Boys and Girls (Welcome to the Show…) ° 07:20, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

But none of them assert notability that the image is of encyclopedic value. All of them simply say that Gaga posed semi nude for the cover. Refer to the Janet Jackson or the Britney Spears article where you'll understand why those two images were used. Lets see what other editors have to say on this matter. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 07:53, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Agreed, I have however added it on the RS artcile. Hey Boys and Girls (Welcome to the Show…) ° 08:17, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

It's not notable for the rolling stone article either. Hundreds of artists have posed nude for them. There are very few covers which have become notable for the magazine and Lady Gaga isn't one of them. The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) 08:20, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Agree, it will take several years for the notability of the Rolling Stone cover to be asserted anyway. It has to have some cultural relevance. — R² 21:55, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Not completely relevent, but if you look closely its a plastic, see-through corset with plastic bubbles affixed to it... Idk fashion is big to me and to say its just bubbles bugs me. 97.88.244.74 (talk) 15:10, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

WE could relate it to her bubble dress, can the image be used anywhere??? Hey Boys and Girls (Welcome to the Show…) ° 23:28, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

It's a Thierry Mugler bubble corset. So says Rolling Stone. Also the metal suit she wears in paparazzi is designed by Thierry Mugler. Perhaps Thierry Mugler should be mentioned as a notable designer? 98.125.109.111 (talk) 22:21, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

GaGa or Gaga

Which is the 'official' name: GaGa or Gaga? I've seen both used equally, and I think it should be mentioned in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.107.238.158 (talk) 20:52, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Consensus on this talk page suggests it's Lady Gaga, but honestly, it's nothing to get wrapped up about in my humble opinion. — R² 20:57, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Vocal Range

If anyone knows it I think it should be added to the little section below her picture. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.91.223.175 (talk) 18:12, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Surely, where is the source? Sparks Fly 18:24, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Lady Gaga, range vocal D3-B5 = 2,7 octaves (youtube) Angel310--Angel310 (talk) 16:43, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

GA nomination

I believe after refreshing the influence section and the LEAD, the article should be ready for GAN. What do you all say? --Legolas ^(talk2me) 06:10, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

The lead definitely needs beefing up, it is not an accurate overview of the article. The article also needs a copy edit and references should be formatted correctly, if they are not already. — R² 13:43, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

I formatted the references correctly while cleaning up the article. So thats done. :) --Legolas ^(talk2me) 13:47, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Cool, maybe we should work on the lead is a subpage of this talk page. Say Talk:Lady Gaga/Lead. — R² 13:50, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Ya sure. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 13:57, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

OK, I'll set up the page and watchlist it. I'll be able to work at it over the next few days. We should keep discussion of the proposed new lead over there. — R² 19:21, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Red & Blue EP?

In 2006, Lady GaGa (under the name 'Stefani Germanotta') released a 5 track EP called 'Red & Blue EP', and I think that it should be added to her discography section and career beginnings section. I don't have full information about the production of the EP but I feel it is necessary to add because it is a work of Lady GaGa. Coinboybrian (talk) 14:30, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Tour with Kanye West

Theres been news of this plastered all over the internet.

Word is it wont be part of the "Fame Ball". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.91.223.175 (talk) 17:07, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Recently added paragraph

On June 9, 2009, Tapulous, a video game developer and publisher, released a video game for the iPhone OS platform featuring Lady Gaga. It is the first and only of its kind for the artist. Entitled Lady Gaga Revenge, the game is a part of the Tap Tap series of rhythm games. As a promotion for Lady Gaga Revenge, Tapulous offered a contest to win four backstage passes to a Lady Gaga concert, in which fans would meet her. Participation in the contest required the submission of high scores for all songs featured in the game. Tapulous also offered a thirty-day giveaway of autographed The Fame albums to other fans who submitted scores. In an interview with USA Today, Gaga mentioned, "[m]y record label might kill me for saying this, but you are essentially purchasing my album for $4.99 and you are also getting a game. So you are getting way more bang for your buck.

This was recently added to the article. I'm not of the opinion it has any place on her biography. Thoughts? — R² 15:53, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Some serious tone issues there. If the only reliable third party source for this is one sentence in USA Today maybe it should be excluded per WP:WEIGHT. Even if more sources can be found it's way too long right now, at the very least it needs to be cut down and the tone issues addressed. Siawase (talk) 16:02, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Case of WP:UNDUE. One line is enough. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 01:20, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Agreed, we have realted articles.Hey Boys and Girls (Welcome to the Show…) ° 06:55, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Per this discussion and the fact that the sources aren't great, I've removed the paragraph. — R² 15:15, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

signifigance

"Gaga became involved in a relationship with a heavy-metal drummer named Luke" No last name of "Luke" or why it's important Cohdblu (talk) 21:09, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Because according to the third party sources Rolling Stone, Gaga list him as an inspiration behind her debut album. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 05:14, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Gaga/Germanotta

I think it would be more appropriate to refer to this woman as Germanotta in this article rather than Gaga since Germanotta is her real name. 75.164.148.139 (talk) 20:27, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

She's better known as Gaga, and that's why that name is used (excluding the portion of her bio from before she adopted the stage name.) —C.Fred (talk) 20:36, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Agreed. See WP:SURNAME. The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) 03:48, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

The use of Germanotta is nonsense. All musicians and artists who have stage names are listed on wikipedia under their adopted name, not their birthname (check, e.g., Bob Dylan, Elvis Costello, David Bowie, Elton John, and so on, and so on). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Deflem (talk • contribs) 18:28, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

"Influences and style"

There are a few problems with this section, as well as the "Live performances" and "Music video" sections in her song articles (for comparison, I used Beyonce Knowles and Trouble):

• Does it really matter what she wears when she's singing? She's a singer, not a model.
• It reads like an essay and is POV'ed in the respect that it keeps mentioning POV quotes instead of NPOV'ing them and working them into the prose.
• The sections go into unnecessary detail about her clothing and her music videos.

I am a terrible cutter, and that is why I've put these problems on the talk page. Thanks, Clem (talk) 20:05, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Part of her persona as a performer is her recognizably unusual sense of dress. Direct quotes when attributed to a reliable source are not POV, you are presenting the ideas of a critic to the reader. If a majority of critics take time to comment on her fashion, then that is a majority view point and is not POV or original research. All musicians articles go into detail about aspects of their career that are central to their public image. In this case, a big aspect of Lady Gaga's image as evidenced by most reliable sources that cover her events, comment on her style of dress. The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) 23:59, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Couldn't have said it better myself Bookkeeper. I do agree that we shouldn't give the fashion stuff undue weight, but since it is such an important part of her public persona, I don't think we have any problems yet. — R² 00:03, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

I also very much agree with Bookkeeper. Gaga is one of those artists who takes as much pride in the visuals aswel as the music. • вяαdcяochat 06:19, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

I agree book, fashion is like a part of Gaga, she would not be Lady Gaga without it. :) Hey Boys and Girls (Welcome to the Show…) ° 11:14, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

GA nomainted

Article nomianted, please disscus ANY new info. (MAJOR EDITS) that may go on. After review more "radicle" edits can be undertaken. Minor editsare fine. Thanks and I hope it passes :) Hey Boys and Girls (Welcome to the Show…) ° 11:47, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Wow, wow, wow. We are still working on the article... — R² 13:36, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

I am sorry, but there was no-one disscusing. And I have wanted the article to go to the GA quickly. I do not see any improvments needed. Hey Boys and Girls (Welcome to the Show…) ° 02:22, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

We should not rush into things so quickly. The article certainly needs improvement. I intend to work on some grammar. • вяαdcяochat 02:46, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

please discss said grammar. I am intending to re-submit it. I think I have the right too? Hey Boys and Girls (Welcome to the Show…) ° 02:56, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Sigh.. You have the right to submit it but good luck with it passing. We should take our time if we wish to achieve the best possible outcome. • вяαdcяochat 03:05, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

*roll eyes*... the review will show improvments needed and then we can change it. So article will be nominated. - We are the crowd -- We're c-comin' out *Paparazzi* Lady Gaga 03:44, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Fair enough, but as Realist said we are still working on the article. It should be nominated when each of us feel as though it is worthy to be an actual candidate. There is no point submitting if we know deep down that it can be improved. • вяαdcяochat 03:52, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

I fully and understand what you mean, I give all my repects but I believe it is more then ready. I think the reviewer can decided. I do have a bit of a problem with WP:GA? point number- 5. stable. So if you and others think it will fail this then I will automatically withdraw it, or withdraw it and leave me message with disscusion. - We are the crowd -- We're c-comin' out *Paparazzi* Lady Gaga 03:59, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Disscusion here: Talk:Lady_Gaga/GA_Nomination - We are the crowd -- We're c-comin' out *Paparazzi* Lady Gaga 04:11, 20 June 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cloverfield Monsta (talk • contribs)

Wow!!!! Who the hell told you to nominate? Its Realist who should nominate it. The article is far from ready and you go ahead and nominate it for what reasons that simply escape me. Your hastiness is again starting to come back Dance-pop. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 16:15, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Hmm. I don't think we should nominate it until we all agree that it's ready. We have 4/5 regulars on this page, we should wait until we are all (or at least the vast majority) agree it meets the GA criteria. I'm pretty free from Sunday to Wednesday, so I can really work at it then. — Please comment R² 16:19, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

The thing is, he didn't inform anyone that he was intending to nominate the article and acted like a drama queen when we all disagreed. I am not a regular editor of the biography page but am of the singles so I'm not sure if i'm entitled to have a say in this discussion. I think I should leave it to you guys. • вяαdcяochat 00:08, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I thought I should of. We discussed it back there at the lead, it was the only thing that needed fixing and in a period of at least a week there was no communication; so I thought I should. I am more then entilited too- Legalos; we are disscusing the nomination not me. I do not think I should be criticized or judged, since last year I have been a frequent ip here contributing alot. So I am entilited. "Who the hell told you to nominate?" --I do not think this is quiet appropriate. Nor is it appropriate to withdraw someones nomination. I have created a discussion. The person who first created the article should get the credit ( I have no idea who that was). - We are the crowd -- We're c-comin' out *Paparazzi* Lady Gaga 04:30, 21 June 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cloverfield Monsta (talk • contribs)

The soxred tool clearly shows that its Realist who has contributed the most in the article. It doesnot matter how many contributions you made by IP. And calling me Legalos doesnot help either, unless you want to be blocked for sockpuppetry again. The article is still far from GA worthy and I'll remove the nomination again. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 04:47, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

LegOlas calm down. I am not a sock, and calling me one does not help. You knbow I have been here a long time (and have contributed more then enough). If I wish to nominate I will. Please keep your comments to the user talk pages. Thank you. - We are the crowd -- We're c-comin' out *Paparazzi* Lady Gaga 04:51, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Just because someone has the most edits does not mean they have contributed the most. - We are the crowd -- We're c-comin' out *Paparazzi* Lady Gaga 04:55, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

New York University Disambiguation

This article does not clarify if Lady GaGa did or did not receive a degree from NYU.

"After receiving a degree in music from New York University...."

A few paragraphs later it reads, "At the age of seventeen she gained early admission to the New York University's Tisch School of the Arts, where she studied music.[7] She honed her writing skills by composing essays and analytical papers focusing on topics such as art, religion and socio-political order.[15] However, she withdrew from New York University."

Something doesn't make sense. Also is it necessary to know about her paper writing skills? Multislack (talk) 22:08, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

She recived a degree but later withdraw from further study. (I think) - We are the crowd -- We're c-comin' out *Paparazzi* Lady Gaga 04:54, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Which songs did she write for Fergie and Britney etc?

Please someone add a section detailing Gaga's songs which she wrote for other artists. As mentioned in her biography she wrote for Fergie, Britney and Pussycat Dolls, but I cannot figure out how she was credited on their albums. What name did she use? Anyways, other songwriters have this detailed in their bios. Would be nice to have a quick reference.

The actual song titles of the tracks she wrote for Fergie and Britney aren't that necassary on the article in my opinion. • вяαdcяochat 06:04, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

GA

Article to be nominated. --R.I.P. Michael :( 01:35, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Uh, no sorry! There is still work to be done. Didn't you learn from the previous discussion? • вяαdcяochat 05:26, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Opps, I thought I was entieled? *sigh* times 2--R.I.P. Michael :( 05:43, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Well, as far as I can see most users disagree with you including myself. Be patient. The time will come when the article is ready. • вяαdcяochat 05:52, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

To the nominator, you should respect the decision of your fellow editors and not nominate this article for GAN until they agree it's ready. You are entitled to nominate the article, but there is solid consensus to not nominate it as it still needs work. Acting against consensus and continually nominating of the article is getting disruptive. I urge you to withdraw the nomination. — Σxplicit 06:01, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you Explicit. Hopefully your words are more clear to the nominator than what mine were. • вяαdcяochat 06:05, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

If you disagree and think more work is to be done then adequate discussion should be undertake. It is not therefore I believe it is necessary to nominate this article. 12:17, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Musician vs. singer-songwriter

Please make yourself familair wioth the article musician. Thank you. --R.I.P. Michael :( 12:21, 27 June 2009 (UTC)