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Beastly

Could you check the Beastly page on my sandbox? Thanks. Kikkokalabud (talk)

Cherrytree tracklist

Let's try to resolve this thing before it results in a block. Could you both leave an explanation here has to why you are inserting and removing the alternate tracklist?—Kww(talk) 12:47, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

the tracklist posted on Billboard it's wrong (the first track is a live version of Poker Face, instead of the song My Love) you can check iTunes. Legolas is keep readding the wrong tracklist. --♫Smanu! 12:57, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

How are you so certain that it is a "wrong" track list, and not an "alternate" tracklist?—Kww(talk) 13:05, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Just used Google: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=my+love+lady+gaga&btnG=Google+Search I can't find the name of this song anywhere. --♫Smanu! 13:12, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

There does seem to be three different versions, however, the only source I have found that has "My Love" as a track is Billboard (could just be a mistake?). Original track list: 1 2 3 and iTunes has a whole other list, "Be Mine!", "With Every Heartbeat" and "Bum Like You" (all live acoustic), and Billboard. So my only recommendation would have to be to include all three. Really shouldn't be warring over such minute, trivial issues guys. k.i.a.c (talktome - contribs) 13:18, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

OK. I'm going to wait for Legolas to weigh in before I say anything more.—Kww(talk) 13:20, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Just realised the iTunes link that they provide on Gaga's website sends you to a Robyn EP of the same name, not the Gaga one. To correct myself, ITunes has "Poker Face (Piano & Voice)", "Just Dance (Stripped down)", "Eh, Eh (Piano and Human Beat Box)". k.i.a.c (talktome - contribs) 13:25, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

here the iTunes link --♫Smanu! 13:30, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Doesn't help much: iTunes doesn't allow my country to visit their website, so I can't see the links.—Kww(talk) 13:33, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Yeah I said the tracks in my previous post. Don't feel too outcast kww, I have to change my country in the store to view most stuff. k.i.a.c (talktome - contribs) 13:35, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Can't even do that: we're outright blocked.—Kww(talk) 14:16, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Firstly, wowww how come you are blocked? Even we don't have iTunes India but still we can view US or OZ iTunes by changing the country. Now to the issue at hand. According to WP:VERIFIABILITY, "Wp goes for information which can be verified by reliable sources". Hence in this case since a RS like Billboard is repeating a track called "My Love" in their tracklisting for the EP, hence we can include both of them. This is what was explained in the same issue regarding "Poker Face", but User:Smanu is simply avoiding consensus and going against it. Not bothering to explain in edit summaries and disregard for policies, this user is tending towards vandalism as WP:VANDALISM states, by removing reliable sources. He needs to learn that it becomes extremely difficult to get in touch with him and keep good faith because of his "don't care" attitude. This is my view, that he needs to learn that WP is a collaborative effort and every opinionated thing should be done with consensus. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 03:29, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

There's a lot of places that can't be reached from South America and the Caribbean because of firewalling. iTunes is just one of hundreds. But, on to the meat of the topic: I'm not seeing a lot of discussion from anyone on this topic, so I'm not particularly willing to go slap Smamu around and pat you on the back, or the other way around. I agree that this is a verifiable tracklist, but the question of how to handle the information remains: do you have any source corroborating this tracklist? Or is Smamu's assertion that it's an obvious mistake credible?—Kww(talk) 03:40, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

User:Smanu's concern maybe correct but since we are dealing with a RS like Billboard I'm sceptical. PS: I don;t want any pats, just that the suer learns to provide edit summaries and doesnot resort to deleting information form articles wothout reaching a consensus. Since WP goes for verifiability rather than the truth, we have to accept that source as it is also keeping the other tracklisting as reported by iTunes and interscope. As I've said before, we are dealing the problem from the wrong point of view. He can mail Billboard and get them to correct the tracklisting (which Billboard is fast enough) instead of all these reverts. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 04:14, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Since it's uncorroborated, perhaps giving it the full "Alternate tracklist" treatment is a bit overboard. Could you agree to have it mentioned with a statement like "Billboard lists "My Love" instead of "Poker Face", and not be made so prominent?—Kww(talk) 04:23, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

That can be done. However that was not my sole concern. TI was User:Smanu's reversions without any edit summaries and going against consensus to do everything. Also a don't care attitude. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 04:45, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

I agree that Smamu's behaviour was problematic. However, I don't see a consensus to add the material either, which means that I also find your behaviour problematic. Today, I don't want to get into an argument over who is more problematic than who. I want both of you to learn to talk to each other, because I think both of you are good editors at heart, and I think both of you have a tendency to repeatedly insert and delete material when you are convinced you are right. If we could get both of you talking to each other, maybe we can fix that.—Kww(talk) 04:52, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

I think that the page should stay in this way, similar as the Poker Face page. Altough I'm totally against to add wrong information, even if sourced --♫Smanu! 15:23, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Not a very realistic position, I'm afraid. If Billboard says something wrong about something, that is rare enough that it deserves mention. Can you agree to the compromise I proposed above?—Kww(talk) 15:31, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

uhm...what compromise? sorry... --♫Smanu! 15:43, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Part of discussing things is reading the whole conversation, but here's a pointer to it.16:19, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

I've read the whole conversation, I swear! I didn't understand you were talking of it, sorry! Anyway I agree, it's similar with my edit in some way --♫Smanu! 16:52, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

I think you need to slow down and read things a bit more carefully. Legolas and I had a discussion about his behaviour, and yours needs work too. You don't seem to pay attention to other people's opinions in discussions. It may be that you are skipping over them, it may be that you aren't quite understanding them, but it makes other editors angry with you. I don't blame Legolas for reporting you to ANI over this. The next time you get into one of these reversion cycles, stop, and ask the other editor why he is reverting you, and don't proceed until you understand.

Yaa. I am fine with the both sources being mentioned, however USer:Smanu has deleted the alternate tracklisting, which I believe should have been kept. I won't be surprised if other users start coming and reverting his changes now. Already it happened. I'm fine with the change now. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 06:00, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm confused now, because I thought that was what we had agreed on: mention it in the text, but not give it a full "alternate tracklisting" display.—Kww(talk) 12:46, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

TORTURE/WAR CRIMES

Bybee is accused of being a warcriminal because he was an accomplice in practices widely regarded as torture. It isn't a fact that he is a war criminal, or that waterboarding/slamming someones head repeatedly into a fake wall/putting someone in a box with insects is torture. But it IS a fact that he is being investigated for war crimes and professional irresponsibility, and that numerous reputable sources such as the current Justice Department, Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, numerous American allies including Canada regard what he advocated to be torture. This is absolutely important, and much more important than mostly irrelevant biographical information. Readers to this article need to know that he advocated these inhuman and frankly illegal practices. To merely refer to them as "controversial" and to not spell out the what the "Bybee memo" really is (waterboarding, beating someone's head into a wall, mental abuse with insects) is to not inform people. It's not being "balanced." It wouldn't be balanced to say that he is a war criminal or that those practices are torture. But we MUST say that he is an accused war criminal, and that these practices are widely regarded as torture, because these are facts. I also support detailing the practices he advocated, to let the reader decide whether or not they are truly torture. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.113.132.6 (talk) 16:25, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

NOTPLOT

Hello, I'm contacting folks who have been participating on NOTPLOT to get their feedback on Masem's proposal which seems to have some traction. Hobit (talk) 14:45, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Kingdom

Thanks for the offer (Kingdom of the Netherlands talk page) It's a murky issue and Fenteners opening remarks got to me. I hope I can appease him though, as I'm not all that unreasonable. I suppose he isn't either. What we disagree about is not only based on the murky and highly politically charged language of the Charter, but also on how the reason for how that came to be should be reflected in the article. I think it should just clarify the constitutional procedures. I've been in discussion on that page (whith interruptions) for years now. Gerard von Hebel (talk) 00:53, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Charts.

• Hi again. We have to improve the other charts as they are adding and most of them unreal.

- Cyprus Super Radio chart. No need to talk, it's a radio chart. - Icelandic chart. (I think only the "Netlistinn" is the real chart, the ones near to them all radio charts. - Lithuanian "music.lt" charts. I translated and read the site in english and they are all written that they give votes and it's clear that it's not a national chart.--Triancula (talk) 20:57, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

• I'm talking about the "music.lt" chart not the Lithuanian National Top 40. They are different. The new chart is adding not the euro 200/apc stats/lithuanian chart. Also cyprus chart is still being added and it is not official it's written in the apc stats. the Icelandic chart --Triancula (talk) 21:09, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

• Time is yours! :) By the way, i found a great site for the Croatian chart. You should look at this too. --Triancula (talk) 00:46, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

• Should we use this site? In there it wrotes as "Finnish Official Download Chart" Despite being a download chart, that "official" meaning can give us to use that site but i want to ask you. The chart is so similar to the official finnish chart but it is a top 30 instead of the official is a top 20. But if you look at the same weeks both of them, you can see that they look very similar. If we say ok to this site, i will gonna add it beacuse there are some few artist that haven't charted in Finland top 20 but top 30 such as Anastasiya Prykhodko, Hadise, Regina and Malena Ernman. --Triancula (talk) 08:16, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

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Component Charts

• just to clarify i am aware of the rules regarding airplay charts. I refered to WP:BADCHARTS when removing the airplay chart from Hush Hush; Hush Hush eactly for that reason. To point out that because the single had already charted on Billboard Hot 100 it was considered bad practise to also include the aiprlay chart. (Lil-unique1 (talk) 17:13, 7 July 2009 (UTC))

• pardon me i did mean to refer to WP:record charts. sorry i got my rule pages confused. (Lil-unique1 (talk) 17:39, 7 July 2009 (UTC))

Additional information needed on Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Petergriffin9901

Hello. Thank you for filing Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Petergriffin9901. This is an automated notice to inform you that the case is currently missing a code letter, which indicates to checkusers why a check is valid. Please revisit the page and add this. Sincerely, SPCUClerkbot (talk) 02:38, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Illegal Copy

Isn't this illegal copy of Beyonce Ego Video http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ego_(Beyoncé_Knowles_song) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YM-hPTYJxbw —Preceding unsigned comment added by SveroH (talk • contribs) 11:20, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Patron Tequila (Feat Lil Jon & Eve)

Done. There were links everywhere! --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 22:30, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Heads Up

Your edit history with DremGuy are mentioned as part of the discussion at WP:ANI#User:DreamGuy and User:174.0.39.30 68.146.162.11 (talk) 00:02, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Top latino

"The problem is one of realism: top40-charts.com is run by mystery men, americatop100.com seems to be an amateur site. This leaves toplatino.net as the only set of Latin American charts with any credibility at all, and, should we delete them and list them on WP:BADCHARTS, there will no charts for South America. An entire continent lost. Not to mention an edit-war without end as the charts start getting removed from articles across Wikipedia, and plucky Latins keep putting them back in." So basically, you're saying WP:LOSE, and you're forgetting that there isn't a single reliable source about the chart in question. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Many otters • One bat • One hammer)} 03:22, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

E=MC2

Yeah, I kinda saw that...... I'll try to revisit that page when I can, but real life is in the way. :P But thanks for the heads up.  :) SKS (talk) 18:29, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Clara Barton

Hi. You decided to go along with a SPER requesting a change to an external link on Clara Barton after I declined the request. I declined the request because the user name was the website name and the new page had pop-up advertising. I thought you would revert yourself after you had a chance to "look over it and decide for myself," but you haven't yet. Did you not have chance? Or are ELs with pop-up ads not WP:LINKSPAM? Thanks, Celestra (talk) 15:06, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the confirmation! I went ahead and deleted the EL as you suggested. Cheers, Celestra (talk) 15:23, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Re: Headstrong Neiva

As far as I could tell, he's constantly coming up with a new tactic. Besides editing Disney articles incessantly (especially Raven-Symoné pages), he's also starting to sneak up on other artists such as Corinne Bailey Rae and Christina Aguilera, always adding a bunch of unsourced information, most of them regarding Brazil and/or record sales. It's unbelievable—he already has like eight sockpuppets! And he probably thinks he won't ever get caught. Funk Junkie (talk) 01:41, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

You're right. But this and this led me to my suspicions. Funk Junkie (talk) 02:12, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Badcharts

Sorry about that! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Franpopstar (talk • contribs) 16:54, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Re:acharts

Sorry, my bad. I didn't realise that those sites already listed on page were actually permanent sources. • вяαdcяochat 01:26, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Flags

Sorry I'm new in en.wiki. Can you help me how to use this wiki? Tosão (talk) 03:10, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Let Loose (Marc Mysterio song)

Did you see what the IP is saying about you in this afd? He needs a cluebat, and mine's tired out. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Many otters • One bat • One hammer)} 03:02, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Mediation at WP:FICT

I'm suggesting we ask for mediation to help build teh guidance at Wikipedia:Notability (fiction). What I propose is that a mediator be the only person to edit the project page itself and be the one to guide discussion and discern consensus. I've proposed it at Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(fiction)#Mediation. As a past participant in the lengthy debates, I'd appreciate your input and hopefully your agreement. Hiding T 10:11, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

A shiny

		The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
		I Tiptoety (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA), award this barnstar to Kww (talk · contribs) for his outstanding work in protecting Wikipedia from those who wish to continue to harm the project via sockpuppetry and disruption. Keep up the excellent work, and I hope to continue to see you around Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations. Cheers, Tiptoety talk 05:33, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

chris willis

Hi, I see that we've been going back and forth on these songs...

I'm trying to edit this page for Chris Willis to cut out needless wiki puff...

some jerk keeps putting it back.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Willis

Can you check my edits and comments? was also noted on the talk page on that page.

As for FDR, the ONLY place I can find it defined, IN ENGLISH (capitalization for emphasis), is http://top40-charts.com/news.php?nid=11180

Its challenging dealing with these eastern-euro contries that use different alphabets which frustrate translators and search bots..

" Based on airplay data from 170 radio stations, the chart is published on a weekly basis, every Wednesday.

FDR also publishes Rock and Dance airplay charts." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.82.135.234 (talk) 15:58, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

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"I noticed those edits, too. 195.22.28.18 was blocked effective March 27 until Jan 26, 2010."

It is a public computer, don't you think? If you don't know then don't act like a whiner. But it is, and many other people like me use it, or used it until someone decided to play smart. What kind of twisted person goes whining on the Administrators about someone that might or might not have gone around their stupid rules? And in case you want to block this other computer too, I warn you that it is also a public one. 194.65.1.253 (talk) 17:16, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Undefeated

In many interviews the album was referred to as "Undefeated". Even when the fake cover leaked the record label only denied the cover not the title. Furthermore there are sources which name the album including Digital Spy which has proven to be factual on many things. If the title turns out not to be Undefeated then the page can be moved as necessary. it seems silly to re-direct the page especially since we have details regarding first single and some credible information. (Lil-unique1 (talk) 00:49, 8 June 2009 (UTC))

Bad Charts

I know all aboutWP:BADCHARTS. I have just been clearing the deprecated "chart positions" from hundreds of infoboxes, and basically was just adding the info from that to the articles without looking at what it was. --Wolfer68 (talk) 03:05, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Help me out?

[1] - any idea what he's on about? Fritzpoll (talk) 08:44, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Ah right - I relisted obviously per your stated problem linking it up. Obviously this was....wrong!  :) Good luck with it all Fritzpoll (talk) 11:35, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes...you're right....I took a bit of a desperate measure

Dammit Janet needed major work and i figured if the name was wrong it would only continue to look bad and collect garbage. I apologise if my move was disruptive in any way...but yes.....I took liberties. Sorry.--Amadscientist (talk) 06:05, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Question

Why are the Latvia charts not notable?--The Legendary Sky Attacker 04:55, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Component chart question

I understand that if a song fails to enter the main chart you use the component chart in the table. That part I understand. My question is should the component chart be mentioned under the "chart performance" section even if the song entered the main chart? An IP and I are at a disagreement about this and I decided it would be best to ask you since you are the one that created WP:CHARTS. MS (Talk|Contributions) 05:47, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Headstrong neiva

Yet another sockpuppet: User:Stripped-xtina. This one, however, created two articles I'm not sure what to do with (Raven-Symoné concert tours and Ashley Tisdale concert tours). Both are (in my opinion) very frivolous "concert tours" lists that I'm very tempted to nominate for deletion. I do see sources in them, however. They just don't seem notable to me in the slightest. What do you think? - eo (talk) 19:47, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your response. I've nominated both for deletion so we'll see what happens. Later. - eo (talk) 13:24, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Tedious

Of course!! Already removed from the Gaga articles! --Legolas ^(talk2me) 05:37, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Done. All clear :) --Legolas ^(talk2me) 06:08, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Connected?

What are your thoughts on connections between User:Headstrong neiva and User:Yamh91? As you know Headstrong has a zillion socks, but aside from this, it seems that 189.xxx IP addresses pop up when any of the socks are caught (found a few more today) and/or Yamh91 is blocked (which I did, yesterday). How many other people on the planet could possibly be completely obsessed with Ashley Tisdale and Raven-Symoné? Keeping track of these two (if it is in fact two) is rather tedious. Any thoughts on what could be done? - eo (talk) 19:00, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Sorry

I am sorry, I am trying to learn and i am having a hard time —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeffmeck22 (talk • contribs) 05:47, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

it's alright

yeah, thanks! see you))- (talk) 15:14, 21 June 2009

Mariah Carey discography

Hi, I would like to make some changes to Mariah Carey discography which is currently fully-protected. How can I do that? Max24 (talk) 13:29, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

I've changed the article here User:Max24/Mariah Carey discography. If you think something else should be changed, please let me know. Max24 (talk) 10:29, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Latvian Airplay Top 50

Hello. Can You please explain, what was the point to list Latvian Airplay Top 50 as deprecated chart? Are You informed about methods of collecting information of this chart? Did You know, that non-notable Latvian Airplay Chart is only official chart of Latvia? I would be very pleased, if You'll give me answers of these questions! Thank You! ---- Digital1 (talk) 00:41, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

re: Yamh91

I left a final warning regarding the Raven-Symoné (album) article. And I'll definitely be keeping my eye on things. Thanks for the heads-up. - eo (talk) 11:32, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Request Protection

I would like to request protection so that only the article Princess Protection Program is only editable to registered users only (at least until the movie premeres in the US) --Tyw7‍ ‍‍ (Talk ● Contributions) Leading Innovations >>> 22:42, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Changes to protected article

I've changed the article Mariah Carey discography here User:Max24/Mariah Carey discography. Could you review it and take it from there? Max24 (talk) 00:09, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. You've been very helpfull. Max24 (talk) 08:36, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Re:Ashley Tisdale singles

The article is about the article is about the album, not the singles. Granted, content about the singles is often better off being discussed in the album article. However, the single covers have little to do with the album- knowing what Tisdale looks like pouting in front of a camera doesn't really aid a reader's understanding of the album. Using those covers there leaves us wide open to having a gallery of single covers on every album page, and if we're doing that, why not album covers on artist pages? Book covers on author pages? Every character on comic book pages? The use seems to go against both the significance and minimal use criteria in the NFCC. J Milburn (talk) 14:37, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

So you concede that the images aren't actually necessary in the article, but are merely placed there unless the single winds up notable in its own right? What if the albums are pretty minor, and are merged back to the artist page? Would you then support each album and single cover appearing on the artist page? We both know that "non-free content is used only if its presence would significantly increase readers' understanding of the topic, and its omission would be detrimental to that understanding", so how do those single covers increase understanding of the topic, which is the album? If the singles are not even worth covering, I fail to see how non-free images of their covers are justifiable, unless the covers themselves are in some way significant (which these ones clearly are not). J Milburn (talk) 15:00, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

I think it's pretty clear we're on the same "side", as it were, but the distinct difference between the single cover if used for identification and the single cover used in this manner is that, when used in a single article, it supposedly improves the understanding of the subject of the article in some way. However, the cover of the single does not increase the understanding of the album- the "article topic", and so what needs to be better understood for NFC to be usable- in that way. I certainly share your goal of keep nothing singles from having stub after stub, (I iniated a lot of mass AfDs back when notability was something I devoted a lot of time to) but I certainly don't think having numerous covers slapped into album articles is an acceptable compromise. If nothing else, it looks ugly- especially if the one line and full infobox is copied, you end up with several infoboxes, but only a few paragraphs (or even a paragraph and a list of singles) as text. J Milburn (talk) 15:22, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Mentoring of User:Petergriffin9901

I've commented on User talk:Petergriffin9901. Thanks, --auburnpilot talk 00:43, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

re:Petergriffin9901

Thanks, I'll keep an eye open. In exchange, you can keep watch over anything resembling this guy: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Billhits. Fun! - eo (talk) 15:59, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Hello

That was not originally my edit so warn that user instead and don't post warnings on my page. By the way, I thought it was removing content so that's why I reverted it. --Brad Polard (talk) 19:41, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Hey

I've fixed my user and talk page, so if you feel like it, check it out. and i've noticed youve notified a few users of my return,i dont mind i just want to asure you you have nothing to worry about, ill be true to my word. there are a few changes i would like to make.

MOVIE GROSSES-i would like to update the gross of the following films Up,17 again,the proposal,the hangover,night at the museum-battle at the smithsonian. I do not need to change the source just the figures.

And i would like to request the edit of a protected article so if you approve i would like you to back it up,to make it easier. As we know Max24 made edits to mariah carey discography ,this is the source he used for her total album sales on the top of the page[[2]] . I just noticced that right after the album sales number it says that she is the top selling female recording arist in history, i think that that line should be included right after her album sales bc i believe thats an accomplishment that should be mentioned....so the only line i would like to insert is this line and is the top selling female recording artist in history ' which is the current source max put there....let me know what u thiink...thanks!!!!--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 23:00, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

there is also one more thing, in mariah careys number 1s album, i would like to add the fact that it sold 17 million copies ww using the same source max used...this is the source http://www.ticketspecialists.com/concerts/mariah_carey_tickets.htm#moreLink thanks!!--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 23:12, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

I disagree on the "top selling female recording artist in history". If you must add this, it should be "one of the best selling female recording artists". For example Madonna or even Celine Dion sold more worldwide, so Carey can not be on top. That sentence is what every record label writes about their artists. Carey is big in the U.S. but outside the States her sales are weak (except Music Box). That's why the introduction on the discography page is focused on the U.S. Max24 (talk) 00:07, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

But Max that is what your source claims...your the one who provided that source not me...and remember wikipedia is built on verifiability not truth...and btw between us as ppl,mariah carey has sold over 200 million albums and sold just as much as madonna and celine....all the best!!--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 19:31, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

I intended to write has,but i accidentally wrote hads as atypo,.thanks--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 21:35, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

OBSESSED-for the song obsessed by mariah carey i have found a review for the song from billboard that i think would be helpful to the article..i would like to include the review in the article and add this source http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/reviews-singles/obsessed-1003988222.story thanxs!!!!--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 21:42, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Seems OK.—Kww(talk) 21:44, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

TRANSFORMERS 2- for the new transformers movie the current source cited is 200 million,but it has no source,so i have a source that says 250,so i would like to add the source and change the figure to 250,and change the gross to 169 Million,this is the source http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/2009/TFRM2.php --Petergriffin9901 (talk) 22:36, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

OK.—Kww(talk) 22:01, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Please Explain

I apologize but i understood not to revert and edit. The only thing i did was remove a line that is unsourced. You told me i was alowed to reword things and fix wording, just not figures. It has no source so i just removed it. Please if you can explain to me why that change was a problem...thanks--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 17:01, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

I didnt even see his edit, i just looked at the page and saw a line of nonsense and removed it. If you view this as a revert then i apologize but then how am i supposed to make edits of wording if it'll revert a previous persons wording, then how can i do anything.the way your wording it pretty much restricts me from almost anything--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 17:05, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

More Changes for Approval

these figures are from the existing source. I would like to change the budget for transformers, i have done this previously but it was removed a last week.tranformers -200 million budget... http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=transformers2.htm ...my sisters keeper to 12 M and add the source- http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=mysisterskeeper.htm ....the taking of pelham 123 to -58M http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=takingofpelham09.htm ...terminator salvation-down to 323M bc its inflated http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=terminatorsalvation.htm ..thank you--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 17:23, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

I would also like to add the budget for my sisters keeper(30M)with the same source--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 19:35, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Hello kww, i wouldm like to remove an unsourced line thats a figure...this is the page My Love: Essential Collection its a celine dion page, at the end of the introduction paragraphs it says that it has sold over 1.5 million copies worldwide. This figure has no source and is just sitting there, so i would like to remove it, thanks and tell me what you think--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 01:10, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

HM3

Hello, I was wondering if you could help and look at the article for Hannah Montana 3, the third soundtrack for Hannah Montana and see if you think it's all in line with guidelines. I am just asking someone with more experiences because I don't want to edit it an change something I shouldn't. I think that there is too much information there and the singles section lists almost every song from the album. I haven't edited it yet, but I was hoping maybe you could see if there is anything that shouldn't be there or anything that could be done to it to help it because it just doesn't look worded right and it looks too long. Thxx. Forkswithyou (talk) 22:46, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Your Edits

Hi; regarding the Megan Fox article. First off, it's her speaking, so the uploader is of little importance.. Also, the uploader is not anonymous as you stated. Please use the talk page next time, thank you. Pyrofork (talk) 03:06, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

You would accept it uploaded from the official TV station, then? Pyrofork (talk) 03:18, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyhYVcWbkcw and http://www.theinsider.com/videos/2313642_Megan_Fox_Draws_Jimmy . Would you like to add it back or should I? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pyrofork (talk • contribs) 03:25, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for helping me resolve this issue. Pyrofork (talk) 03:57, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Hey

I noticed a while back you were a little confused as to why i would imporsonate a justar (who was in my position as well as a sockpuppeteer). The reason is very simple, i Already made like 4 accounts and they kept getting blocked, and i knew that i could easily be a sock and wont get caught unless i edit MC articles, but i kinda couldnt resist so i would always get caught. So i though, let me make a user name of a editor that i remember that long ago edited MC articles and make my user name similar so it wont draw attention to my edits, (example) if i chose you id amybe put, Kwww ,just to avoid extra attention, and the first name i remembered was Justar for some reason, so i used his name and switched it around. Little did i know that Justar was also making socks and acccused of the same stuff as me. So as you see i didnt intentionally imersonate another sockpuppeteer, just another editor so not to draw as much attention....I wanted to tell you this bc you were very kind to me, so i feel like your entitled to know whatever you want about my past socks, and i noticed you always wondered why, so heres your answer.....:D have a great night!!!--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 05:36, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Question About a Source

Just wondering , would you say this is a reliable source http://www.undercover.com.au/News-Story.aspx?id=4687 ?Like would you allow this source to be placed on an article, or is it not reliable enough...please explain why yes or why not...THANKS!!!!--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 18:26, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Would you say it is more or less reliable than this one http://www.ticketspecialists.com/concerts/mariah_carey_tickets.htm#moreLink ??thanks, and what do u think about the other thing i wrote u?--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 19:24, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, i dont mean to bother you but i would like to use the undercover source over the other one for a few sale amounts, they are mariah carey -daydream (mariah carey album)-25M instead of 22M Mariah Carey-Music Box (album)-32M instead of 28M and those two on the mariah carey discography and also these on the discography charmbracelet-4.2M to 5M ,butterfly-12 to 15.5M teom-10 to 10.2 M

thanks,if you approve the changes that will be great, thanks --Petergriffin9901 (talk) 23:43, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

One question, are you a administrator,i didnt think you were, but i see that you are really knowledgeablw in wiki and think your are or should be...are you?--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 21:11, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

He isn't, which shows how unimportant being an administrator really is!--Wehwalt (talk) 21:49, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Hey kww, can you just look at this and tell me 2 things...is it reliable?and do you think it should be included in the article?..the article is michael jackson http://www.makli.com/jordan-chandler-admits-he-lied-about-michael-jackson/ --Petergriffin9901 (talk) 22:09, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

thanks!also, can u help me change a picture?i really dont know how and would like to chage the picture on the mariah carey page. I find the picture unflattering,its been discussed on the talk page many times, and has been changed in between the same 3 pictures from the same event. would like to put a picture from a different day from google images, or my computer pics...so if you can help me or tell me how thatd be great....--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 23:19, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

I dont understand, are u saying that u cant just put any picture of her there?why not, and like what kind of picture would it need to be?--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 23:23, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

That explains alot..lol...i remember wondering why someone once put a nice picture and like 10 minutes later a bot deleted it. If i were interested in finding one of these pictures, do you know where?like where could i find these license free pictures...thanks--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 23:33, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

thanks alot for the link!Do u allow me to switch it for any close up picture of those?like any of the close ups off her face from there. And before max24 edited mariah carey discography it had an image and for some reason he removed it after he edited it, can i put a picture back there the way it was?--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 23:43, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Hello kww, Someone has changed the photo i put for the mariah carey article, and since im not allowed to revert i put them both on the talk page, so we can see which of the two people like more. I couldnt though make the link for the pictures like u did(i dont know how) so i only wrote like(mariah carey david shankbone photo) so if you could fix it and make it appear as a link to show the photo, id appreciate it, and let me know what u think of the idea and plzzz leave your opinion for which photo u prefer...all the best!--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 21:24, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, can you as well leave your vote or your comment--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 21:35, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Please stop removing my information on This Is Me

I have sourced the information since you kept bugging me about it. Please do not continue to remove my contributions. --Pokerdance (talk) 20:04, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Stop removing sourced information

You constantly removing my SOURCED edits on This Is Me (Camp Rock song) constitutes vandalism and is not appreciated. Please stop.

Also, to whoever keeps reverting this message, I will politely ask you to stop as well. --Pokerdance (talk) 20:18, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Warnings

Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but your recent edit removed content from Wikipedia. When removing text, please specify a reason in the edit summary and discuss edits that are likely to be controversial on the article's talk page. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the text has been restored, as you can see from the page history. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia, and if you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. --Pokerdance (talk) 20:09, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay.

I thought it was "sort of" an attack, though, because admins can't get warnings, can they? - Eugene Krabs (talk) 20:16, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

RE:

I suspect that user is a sockpuppet. The IP address continues to change and maybe User:AndreaCarax. Check the user history. Charmed36 (talk) 18:01, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

I added sources to songs I searched, but I'm not finish. The IP removed sources for no reason. This user is very opinionated and does not care about actually sourcing material. The user's IP continues to change. Someone needs to talk to this user. Charmed36 (talk) 05:57, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

An IP user 98.211.164.117 used a discrminating name towards me on my talk page. Can you do something about this. Charmed36 (talk) 23:42, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

IP edit blocks

heya, could you do me a favour? could you put ip edit blocks on the beyonce discography and the cascada discography articles? ip vandalisms and driving me insane! :) Mister sparky (talk) 20:15, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Brazilian Albums Chart

Alright. If somebody add the false peak position again, we could put the Brazilian sales information and certification on the header text of the section. By the way, I've to agree with you, it would be easier if South America countries get their own official charts but until it becomes a reality, we have to revert this kind of edits. Decodet (talk) 23:29, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

RE

Ok, sorry! But you have to not exclude the sources.--Matthew Riva (talk) 00:43, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Ok. Argentine Chamber of Phonograms and Videograms Producers isn't okay?--Matthew Riva (talk) 12:55, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Ok. Sorry and thanks.--Matthew Riva (talk) 13:54, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

That's Not My Name edits

I'm sorry about the bad chart. Firstly, I wasn't aware. And secondly, I was reverting to an old edit and didn't notice. Thank you for informing me! --Pokerdance (talk) 16:38, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Re: Please stop misformatting discography articles

Please discontinue to leave messages about discographies on page. We discussioned this before the reformats were made. The fact that you have continued to try make an argue after I have stop this conversation makes your edits disruptive on my talk page and Solange Knowles discography page. Now, please discontinue any further discussion about discographies and my name. There will no further discussion of this. Thank you. Lovejonesfly (talk) 18:32, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Hot100Brasil

But The Hot 100 Brasil is a official Chart second the IFPI .Vitor Mazuco (talk) 19:09, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Please read! here see what chart represents Brazil, here we used Hot 100 Brasil how a official charts for a seling. And the ABPD is a official site to.Vitor Mazuco (talk) 19:41, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Right, but what brazillian chart I will put in articles? Anything? Vitor Mazuco (talk) 01:37, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Ah ok, so Brasil is delete here! Vitor Mazuco (talk) 01:41, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Do this, delete all the contries and only leaves the U.S., Europe and Japan. For the rest not even providing for what they only hear music. Vitor Mazuco (talk) 01:58, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Please see this link, this, this this, this this and here i know you doesn't understanding nothing, but you will see the brazillians sites used the HOT100BRASIL how a official chart(terra, globo.com, UOL, etc), the most complete, the most important for the brasillian artist. And where you from? Vitor Mazuco (talk) 02:14, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Venezuela. Então podes falar em espalhol que eu endendo. Sou do Brasil, São Paulo. Vitor Mazuco (talk) 02:26, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

I Don't know how to put their. Vitor Mazuco (talk) 02:34, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

see All the links Globo.com. Vitor Mazuco (talk) 02:48, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

The UOL website is much important in Brasil see here Vitor Mazuco (talk) 02:50, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

see this See the Jovem Pan the most radios in Brazil that "The latest release of the singer, is the hit "Not Prohibited", which is already in the list of Hot 100 Brasil, a Brazilian species of Billboard". Vitor Mazuco (talk) 02:55, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Ok, but please this article have to return here. Vitor Mazuco (talk) 03:13, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Ok, but the site UOL isn't a gossip website is a News to. See this of site Terra see see see Vitor Mazuco (talk) 13:07, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Ok. Vitor Mazuco (talk) 00:39, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Just an fyi: Billboard owns the trademark to the term "Hot 100". So any other non-Billboard publication using this term is probably not legitimate. - eo (talk) 22:24, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

That might be a record, fourteen consecutive posts on someone else's talk page.--Wehwalt (talk) 00:15, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Ashley Tisdale featured article nomination

Hello. Ashley Tisdale is a current featured article candidate. Please, I would appreciate if you leave your opinion here. Thanks. Decodet (talk) 00:29, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Something fishy going on at Run (Snow Patrol song)

I think all that happened was that you edited a slightly old version of the page without realising, effectively reverting the last edit. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 14:12, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Stop being a liar

I'm going to prove that, you accusing me of being a sockpuppet was bad faith. Lovejonesfly (talk) 02:47, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

You know, it's a shame when people blow things out of bad faith. But again, I will forgive you if you simply stop lying "and that's showing my nice again, like I did as an early editor of Wiki.". Otherwise, I will continue to prove you have created this out of bad faith. Lovejonesfly (talk) 03:14, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Hey KWW, did you see how Lovejonesfly adorned and then finished the investigation? Drmies (talk) 01:28, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

I didn't finished the investigation, I nominated it to be finished. Another lie by you two or possibly one! Lovejonesfly (talk) 01:53, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Lies or not, you're a goner. For now, anyway. Maybe when you come back you'll have learned some manners, though I doubt it. Drmies (talk) 02:55, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Nicole Wray

So many socks, so many edits, and still a ton of bigger and smaller corrections on that article. Meco's style is very distinctive, so that makes recognition not too difficult. We'll see. Drmies (talk) 03:12, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Beat Again

• Doesn't "Beat Again" have enough information? It has two tracklists, catalog numbers, single covers, image of music viideos and critical reception. The only thing it doesn't have is chart positions. Isn't that enough? Dt128 15:31, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
  • Sorry, there's no reason for the patronising tone though. It was simply a query. Thanks for your response, I just wanted to clarify why it had been made into a redirect again! Dt128 15:47, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Thats okay! Nice talking to you. Dt128 15:56, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Shakira

Just so you know I didn't restore vandalism just now, I clicked revert and I forgot to make it present in the difference between revisions page to preview what edit it was, it's should be fixed now though. Thanks ---Scarce |||| Talk -Contrib.--- 21:26, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Also, there appeared to be new vandalism and I tried to restore an older edit, I checked it to make sure it was not vandalism but I forgot to click previous edit to double check ---Scarce |||| Talk -Contrib.--- 21:30, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

dazzle dancers

Hey mate, trying to speedy delete this page and running in to resistence... they are not a notable music group, and simply are obnoxious and sexually explict... there are zero public articles on them...

some jackass keeps removing my speedy deletion tag.. please assist.

That "jackass" is an administrator here. I've left a note on this individual's talk page suggesting the proper course of action; if you have questions, feel free to contact me at your convenience. Accounting4Taste:talk 02:38, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your note, and I understand how that might have happened. I get the occasional note because I'm one of the first administrators in an alphabetical listing, and for no reason concerned with my interests and/or actions. Accounting4Taste:talk 14:51, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Another Cinderella Story

You're probably right. So should I erase the original research warning I left on her talk page, replace it with a different one, or leave it? Pokerdance ^{(talk/contribs)} 00:02, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

=everybody comes to Rick's

and to my talk p as well. Things should be clear enough. DGG (talk) 04:09, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Mariah Carey Albums

Music Box (album) Hey kww, someone changed the source for the total sales of the album on this page and replaced it with this http://rateyourmusic.com/list/Marek34/mariah_careys_best_albums/ . Not only doesnt this source seem reliable, its not even correctly quoted, it says 30M yet the article says 26. I personally dont think its a reliable source, so if you could help me and either revert it or fix the figure that would be great. (the original source it had said 28M ww.

Daydream (album) The article says 20M sold worldwide, but the source says 22M, please give me clearance to fix the mistake.

Butterfly (album) The article says 10M sold worldwide, but the source says 12M.

Rainbow (album) The article says 8.5M sold worldwide, but it soesnt have a source, so i would like to add this one http://www.ticketspecialists.com/concerts/mariah_carey_tickets.htm#moreLink which is being used by her other articles and you have cleared it before. And the source i would like to add says 9M worldwide, so i would like to modify that as well.

Glitter (album) I would like to add the fact that the album has sold 3.5M ww to the article and add this source http://www.ticketspecialists.com/concerts/mariah_carey_tickets.htm#moreLink .

Charmbracelet (album) I would like to add the fact that the album has sold 4.2M ww to the article and add this source http://www.ticketspecialists.com/concerts/mariah_carey_tickets.htm#moreLink .thank you for your help, i would like clearance on all of these, but the first one (music box) i would like you to do,bc its a bit complicated...thanks!--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 05:49, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

I dont understand. If the approved source that is in the article(one that has been approved by Max24 and yourself)says 22M and someone just feels like vadalizing and writing 20M,why is that something to debate on a talk or discussion page?surely creating false numbers contradicting a given source constitutes as vandalizm, and requires warnings or blocking--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 15:12, 13 July 2009 (UTC)?

Well im glad to hear that, as ive told you i am a man of my word. Thanks for the help!--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 23:06, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Chart by ABPD

Hi Kww, the site ABPD did a official chart sales of CDs and DVDs see here Vitor Mazuco (talk) 12:40, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Does't have others chart, by ABPD. Vitor Mazuco (talk) 18:07, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

I Knhow, but that was the sample, a just a news. Nothing how Hot00Brasil, that every week do a chart by week. Vitor Mazuco (talk) 18:29, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Kww the ABPD do other chart sales see 29 de Junho a 05 de Julho de 2009. Of CDs and DVDs. Vitor Mazuco ^Msg 16:52, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Ok.Vitor Mazuco ^Msg 23:08, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Your opinion?

I find this to be completely non-notable and was going to nominate for AfD, but what do you think of Jay-Z & Ciara Live? I never work on tour articles so I'm not sure about what is generally tolerated but this is just a 6-date promo tour. Thoughts? - eo (talk) 00:54, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Photos

Hey kww take a look at these photos, open a new itnernet tab and copy and paste the link to view them ,since on wiki they are forbidden. Thes are just some paparazzi pictures in 2008, as you can see she is gorgeous and has a great body.

http://www.mariahdaily.com/picturegallery/2008/appearances/waverly/12.jpg

http://www.mariahdaily.com/picturegallery/2008/appearances/time100/14.jpg

http://www.mariahdaily.com/picturegallery/2008/appearances/operationsmile/2.jpg

http://www.mariahdaily.com/picturegallery/2008/appearances/narita/2.jpg

http://www.mariahdaily.com/picturegallery/2008/appearances/cipriani/10.jpg

http://www.mariahdaily.com/picturegallery/2008/appearances/rtl_idol2/5.jpg

http://www.mariahdaily.com/picturegallery/2008/performances/gma/3.jpg

http://www.mariahdaily.com/picturegallery/2008/appearances/empirestate/1.jpg

maximize these photos and scroll up and down to see the whole photo.

Since its forbidden ,just open up a new internet tab and copy and paste to see the photos.--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 02:30, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Mariah Carey Discography

hey kww, the above mentioned page has been protected since May 30th which means its been protected for over 6 weeks already. Do you think you can help me request it be changed from full protect to only a semi protection?.I await your reply,thanks!--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 05:52, 15 July 2009 (UTC

So what do you think?can you help me?--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 19:59, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Well, no not yet she hasnt, but there are many little wording tweeks that need to be made. And what is there to lose, that page was originally protected bc of me, but now thats not a problem. So whats there really to lose?And she will be releasing a new album in a month, and her single obsessed is already charting. Its already at number 11 on the HOT 100.--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 16:48, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

kww, you are awesome!thanks alot for your help and you really make wikipedia such a wonderful community to be part of..:)--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 18:31, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Opinion

Hi your definately a clued up user who has edited many articles. I would like to ask your opinion regarding something.

Is it ok to include a list of recorded tracks on an album page if the album has yet to be released? By this i mean a list of songs that have viable sources e.g. billboard, rap-up.com etc.

additionally i would like to get your opinion on edits i have made to Elope (album). User Cornucopia feels that they are unhelpful and keeps editing them. His/her behaviour is getting a little over-powering because he/she does not seem to accept edits from other users. My editions to the article were aimed at aligning some of the info better and making the article more consistant.

Your views would be appreciated. (Lil-unique1 (talk) 16:54, 15 July 2009 (UTC))

Whitney Houston discography

hey kww, on the above mentioned page 2 of the albums..my love is your love, and im your baby tonight say 13M in sales, where the source says 10M for both. I would like to change it, so let me know what you think.--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 18:39, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

so what italian chart is not forbidden?? on this site everything is forbidden!!! on fimi.it it's not the singles chart but the download chart...i can't do nothing -.-' --Mojska (m) 12:59, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

ah...ok, i'll see the page goodcharts --Mojska (m) 19:42, 19 July 2009 (UTC)