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There should be at least some discussion of her work she was a great artist with many paintings

[Thus spake an IP user, Jerzy(t) notes]
That could be one reason we've got it marked as a "stub". I know too little about her work to add that, but you may be able to at least get us started toward it. You've shown you know how to edit a page, namely this one. Edit boldly on Georgia O'Keeffe; if you don't know how to wikify your thoughts, i'm one of those who'll notice and help by editing what you add. And you may embarrass others who know more than i into contributing. Thanks for commenting; i bet you're right. --Jerzy(t) 08:21, 2004 May 12 (UTC)
I'm currently doing an lengthy research paper on O'Keeffe as my high school junior year project, so I'll be sure to add to this page once I'm closer to finishing. Hopefully it'll de-stub this page. - Mo 08:56, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)
I'm presently editing a two-volume work on O'Keeffe's life by a woman whose family were her lifelong neighbors and friends. It's an interesting and very personal perspective, and she quotes from a great many family letters and memorabilia. I've added a few elucidative comments as a result of being immersed in this project and probably will have more. --Michael K. Smith 17:20, 2 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately, this entry, like many Wikipedia entries, has been hijacked by misognists. According to their limited view of the world, no women have been great artists in all the history of humanity, so you might as well give up the illusion that you can craft an accurate Wikipedia entry about Georgia O'Keefe or any other woman artist, scientist, engineer or basically any intelligent woman at all.


UPDATE: Nancy Hopkins Reily's Georgia O'Keeffe: a Private Friendship, Vol. 1: "Walking the Sun Prairie Land" was published by Sunstone Press late in 2007. Vol. 2: "Walking the Abiquiu and Ghost Ranch Land" will be out this fall (September or October). This work really ought to be included in an "Additional Reading" section -- but I prefer not to include it in the "References" section because it obviously wasn't (could not have been) used as a reference for anyone working on the article. Is it legal, so to speak, to have both kinds of sections? Am I making a valid distinction? --68.155.80.111 (talk) 20:58, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fisk U

Surprised there was nothing written about her donating (I believe 101) works to Fisk an African American college...and her reasoning to do so. Plus the legal battle ensuing between Fisk and her estate. Suggest someone add. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.181.240.24 (talk) 18:39, 18 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lesbian?

There is no mention about speculation that O'Keeffe may have been a lesbian. Probably not relevent, but I thought I would mention it in discussion...

looks like we've got a spammer...deleted the entire article. unfortunately I'm new to editing wiki and am not sure how to revert the page to its previous state

199.184.205.215 15:28, 13 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Given the erotically female nature of many of her paintings, the information, such as her relationship with Maria Chabot, would be relevant. --Kstern999 20:01, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Give us the reference, and THEN put it up. I'm more interested in seeing some better examples of her art, then who she got off on. Protocoldroid 07:52, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
There's no indication that O'Keeffe was an active homosexual. She had strong emotional involvements with several men during the time she was in Canyon and, of course, she was married to Stieglitz. She was certainly independent and individualistic and was generally regarded as a "Bohemian" in her early adult years, but given the times in which she lived it seems unlikely she ever allowed any submerged Lesbian drives to come to the surface. --Michael K. Smith 03:50, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It would be worth it to mention that many people have pointed out that many of her paintings distinctly resemble vaginas, but not worth speculating about her personal sexuality. Even if it were intentional the message could be any number of things, any of which would be more profound than "i'm a lesbian." she holds her own hand so im guessings she loves woman but also has interest in men since diego rivera so shes no a lesbo shes a bisexual! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.115.220.72 (talk) 18:49, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

a: why would you think it is any of your business if she is a lesbian and b: it is none of your business.

Greatness

"Georgia Totto O'Keeffe [..] widely regarded as one of the greatest painters of the 20th century" seems quite an exaggeration. Possibly, one of the greatest American painters of the first half of the 20th century, but if you throw the Europeans in the mix, she becomes really second-rate. Problem is, the US are already mentioned twice in the first two sentences. RodC 01:03, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

George O'Keefe's greatness is hardly in question. She is in the history books. You are not. Period.

"Great" is a matter of opinion. "Influential" is another matter. O'Keeffe was undeniably an extremely influential 20th century artist, from the early '30s up until her death more than half a century later. I don't have any problem with the emphasis on her American identity, either; she was quintessentially American in her approach to art and in where she chose to practice it, from Wisconsin to New York to Texas to Abiquiu. --Michael K. Smith 03:55, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Furthermore it is the fact that she lived so long that makes her infuence so far reaching. When an artist dies young you can't go back and ask about a work. O'Keeffe was able to not only keep working up through old age but very much was in control of where and when her work was exhibited (admitedly with able advisors). Coupled with her not being influenced by contemporary European artists it is well worth pointing out that her creative sphere was distinctly American. We need to find a better way to refer to someone from the US other than "American." Mabibliophile 14:33, 24 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh Gosh. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.14.214.194 (talk) 13:35, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

When I read the Georgia O'Keeffe article, Abiquiu appears twice, once in the body and once in the caption of the photograph. Both links go to, "We don't have an article called Abiquiu, New Mexico." When I click the link, within the same O'Keeffe article, for Sante Fe, that article also refers me to Abiquiu, which then does have a page named "Abiquiu" (without the New Mexico) describing the town as her home. She actually lived at Ghost Ranch, near Abiquiu. The links on all three places should be corrected to go to the one page that works. It would be better if that page was renamed "Abiquiu, New Mexico." cahcpa [User:65.73.163.50] 05:43, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Okay, but note the 1945 Abiquiu hacienda was 16 miles from Ghost Ranch (1930s): [2 homes, see #Verification details below]. -Wikid77 16:59, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Legacy

The "Legacy" section reads:

Following O'Keeffe's death her family contested her will because codicils to it made in the 1980s had left all of her estate to Hamilton. Its assets were transferred to the Georgia O'Keeffe Museum, established in Santa Fe in 1997 to perpetuate O'Keeffe's artistic legacy. These assets included a large body of her work, photographs, archival materials, and her Abiquiu house, library, and property. Not least her art work with flowers was introduced.

Not only would it be nice if some of this were directly referenced (in fact, little of the article is directly referenced), but I can't make sense of the last sentence. O'Keeffe's flower paintings had been displayed as early as 1925.[1]--HughGRex 00:20, 19 December 2006 (UTC)|[reply]

- Several references have now been added to this section and the section edited as well. Mabibliophile 18:02, 7 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Is the Warren Zevon reference really necessary? He was using this in a sarcastic sense, very few people have heard this song, and many of her fans and admirers would not consider this one line reference in a pop song to be a significant part of her legacy.--68.35.127.88 (talk) 19:44, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It would serve better under something like "Keefe in popular culture", I think. I'd also like to point out that the song was from 1989 - http://www.amazon.com/Transverse-City-Warren-Zevon/dp/B00004RBGH Roaring Melody (talk) 23:47, 24 March 2008 (UTC) Roaring Melody 19:46, 24 March 2008(UTC)|[reply]


I AGREE :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.14.214.194 (talk) 13:37, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Paintings? "S-E-X"?

what were they supposed to be flowers or "flowers" by "flowers" i mean flowers that were painted to look suspiciously like genitalia in a lot of her paintings? Dappled Sage 04:11, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No offense, but you're being obtuse. Her paintings were not 100% representational and therefore can be interpreted on many levels at one time. Also, Georgia herself almost always declined to interpret or "explain" her work for anyone's benefit, preferring that the viewer see whatever they would see. The point being that there is undoubtedly an element of eroticism in many of her works, but you shouldn't assume that's all a picture is about, or that the artist even intended that to be explicit. --Michael K. Smith 17:07, 2 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
No offense, but you're being disingenuous and cloying. An encyclopedia article on O'Keeffe should let a lay reader know that her some of her work is widely known for what many (most?) observers interpret as a sexual imagery. But the letters "s-e-x" appear nowhere in the article -- that's absurd and puritanical. *sheesh* Get the basics down, before splitting hairs. DBrnstn (talk) 17:56, 8 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I've read a lot of teens books and they all refered to georgia's painting like this: the flower that look like genitalia --Hana Kim 01:05, 20 January 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.120.171.84 (talk) [reply]

Verification

19-March-2007 (revised 19Mar07): The article ("Georgia O'Keeffe") is not presentedly protected from unregistered edits, so verification of tampered details can be an issue. Basic sanity-check facts:

Georgia Totto O'Keeffe (November 15, 1887—March 6, 1986) was an American artist. O'Keeffe has been a major figure in American art since the 1920s. O'Keeffe was born on Nov. 15, 1887 in a farmhouse on a large dairy farm in Sun Prairie, Wisconsin. Her parents, Francis Calyxtus O'Keeffe and Ida Totto O'Keeffe, were dairy farmers. Ida Totto O'Keeffe's father, George, for whom Georgia was named, was a Hungarian immigrant. // Georgia O'Keeffe was born in Wisconsin, raised in Virginia and trained in Chicago and New York, but she is typically associated with the American southwest and particularly New Mexico, from her paintings. She had 2 homes in New Mexico: a 1945 hacienda in the village of Abiquiu, 16 miles from "Ghost Ranch" (at the base of Pedernal Mountain).
[ The name is spelled with double "ff" so periodically search and fix any one-eff "O'Keefe" spellings (except in web URLs). ]

Other critical dates/facts should be added above for fact verification, after any future flurry of vandalism reverts. I have reverted 18Mar07 vandalism on birthdate/place; the detection was pure coincidence, I didn't know the article had been vandalized yesterday when I thought to create this topic. -Wikid77 22:18, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Georgia O'Keeffe did NOT paint pictures of vaginas. Art critics decided that her paintings of flowers represented such, period. It is opinion, not fact. Change it.Justtryingtoeditsomecrap (talk) 18:03, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Miscellaneous

List untitled issues here. -Wikid77 16:38, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I was discussing GO in relation to the show this year 2009 in NY - to whit - when did GO meet or interact with Steiglitz? It seems that since she was a student in NY and went to his gallery that she may have met him as early as 1907-8 which would be scandalous!

Evidence of this might lie in the images Steiglitz took at lake George in 1908. Was Steiglitz a regular there? Yes.

These kind of possible inconsistencies in dates and facts (see the ghost ranch issue listed as well - might be a coverup based on the genteel values of the time. Why was GO's family too poor to send her back to Pratt for a second year? Milk prices?

I understand I need to go to the library...I'd like to know what books to read....

Thanks in advance 98.14.91.154 (talk) 23:22, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Naming

Might it not be better to refer to her as either 'Georgia' or 'O'Keeffe' (preferably O'Keeffe IMO) the whole way through, instead of switching from one to the other? 91.104.104.146 09:48, 3 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Categories

Category "University of VA Alumni" was included at the bottom of the page, but there is no indication she went to UVA. It probably didnt' allow women when she was college age anyway.--Parkwells (talk) 14:37, 27 February 2008 (UTC)shes a lesbo![reply]

Losers^^

aight wtf u guys???? how is she lesbo??? (shes not!)she like my great great aunt and i have a bunch of her origanal paintings....... i show know more.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hello999morgan (talk • contribs) 05:40, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

With all do respect, this is a community of intellectuals. Please state your claims in clear English, so you can be better understood by everyone. Please do not make false claims as to your heritage, doing this became ridiculous rounding out the 3rd grade. If you're going to claim you know her sexuality, back it up with hard facts. In case you were wondering, and since I know a clear understanding of English obviously escapes you, hard facts include reliable resources; not your claims of bloodline. LikeHolyWater (talk) 20:06, 7 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

D. H. Lawrence and Ghost Ranch

In the "New Mexico" section of the article is the following paragraph:

"In June of 1934 O'Keeffe visited Ghost Ranch for the first time and decided immediately to live there. The ranch is located in a remote area approximately 120 miles north of Albuquerque. Among guests to visit her at the ranch were D. H. Lawrence, Charles and Anna Lindbergh, and Ansel Adams."

If O'Keeffe saw Ghost Ranch for the first time in 1934, how could she have been visited there by Lawrence, who died in 1930? (He wasn't, I trust, a ghostly visitor.) - InvisibleSun (talk) 00:41, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Georgia's origin

The article states in the Early Years section something about George Victor Totto that has no reference, and is incorrect. It states Georgia was named after him! The Wikipedia article on Georgia the state says it was named after England's King George II. The Wikipedia article on Georgia the country gives 3 possible origins, such as Saint George. I will correct it.68.159.139.60 (talk) 03:47, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

why do you people have a problem with her being named after her grandfather. Modernist (talk) 03:57, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for the misunderstanding. The sentence was not as clear before since it also mentions him coming to America. It makes one first think of the state or country, rather than the person the article is about. Seems obvious now in retrospect! Thanks for clarifying the sentence. 68.159.139.60 (talk) 22:49, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

GONE!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.120.150.254 (talk) 14:10, 24 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Someone is censoring this discussion page

As I understand it, the discussion page on wikipedia entries should NOT be censored. By anyone. Yet I find that entries here are being completely reversed and therefore censored. How is that possible. If someone can censor the discussion of a relatively benign conversation about women artists, I wonder what is going on in the other Wikipedia discussion pages...


???

Here's the text that was censored. What the heck is wrong with this text in a DISCUSSION page? "NO there really IS NOT A QUESTION ABOUT HER GREATNESS. There is, however, always the question of whether men can fathom her greatness. Men have no problem with Matisse or Picasso or Cezanne or Pollack being declared a GREAT artist. But when a woman is declared a great artist, they start getting nervous. What is that about? Hmm...? Could it be simple sexism? Hmmm????"

Not censorship. Wikipedia talk pages are not intended to be used as a forum. Guidelines are well delineated at WP:TALK, which begins:
The purpose of a Wikipedia talk page is to provide space for editors to discuss changes to its associated article or project page. Article talk pages should not be used by editors as platforms for their personal views.
When writing on a talk page, certain approaches are counter-productive, while others facilitate good editing. The prime values of the talk page are communication, courtesy and consideration. JNW (talk) 14:54, 20 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
A section on critical reception could be interesting, with credible sources illustrating responses to her work. A discussion of such a section and the scholarship supporting it would be appropriate and welcome here. JNW (talk) 15:09, 20 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Current Whitney exhibition

The Whitney has a current exhibition dedicated to O'Keeffe's abstracts. Is this worth mentioning? Goodguy2 (talk) 10:58, 11 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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